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'Serenity' Sequel OR 2nd Series of 'Firefly'?

  • 09-10-2005 1:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,413 ✭✭✭✭


    OK, after seeing both the 'Firefly' series and the 'Serenity' film.. if you could choose, would you prefer Joss to continue making the films or go back to the TV show?

    I know a revival of the TV show will more or less never happen but i'd have to say i'd prefer it.

    Now, don't get me wrong: i absolutely loved the film. Had one major problem with it but loved it anyways!

    But it's easier to make a bad episode of the TV show than a bad sequel to the film. In other words.. making fans wait 2 - 3 years (give or take, for a sequel considering 'Wonder Woman' is still in the works for Joss) and then giving us an average / below average sequel as opposed to giving us a couple of poor episodes of 'Firefly' in a series which will inevitably kick-ass.

    I know the film and series were two very different things but i'd be interested in hearing views on what you'd prefer for the future.

    What would you prefer? 11 votes

    Sequel to 'Serenity'
    0% 0 votes
    2nd Series of 'Firefly'
    100% 11 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Hugh Hefner


    A second series of course. You can do more in a series. You can tell more stories, have more twists, have more characters, have more arcs and take your time in telling the story you want to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    A second series would be better. Maybe they'll have one after the BDT...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭Daelus


    Definitely a second series, for the reasons Hugh pointed out above. However, I did love the film, and I'd openly welcome a sequel to it. Either way, I'm happy. But I would prefer for the series to come back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Dagnir Glaurung


    I haven't seen Firefly yet. I fully intend too now though and dammit I want more than two hours of Whedon goodness. So second series is my vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 413 ✭✭spooydermot


    there was an interview recently where Joss said that he wouldn't do another series, he felt it would be a step back from taking Firefly to the big screen...

    that said I too would prefer another series..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    there was an interview recently where Joss said that he wouldn't do another series, he felt it would be a step back from taking Firefly to the big screen...

    I would agree. I'd rather see a new big-screen film than a return to the small series tbh. I think having wrapped up a fair amount in 'Serenity', a new series would be a bit redundant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Whedon has repeatedly said in interviews that Serenity takes the story arc to the end of what would have been season 2. I'd guess he had at least 5 series in mind when he first concieved the idea. I felt that the end of Serenity is where the story kicks off and that it has a "Fall of the Night" feel.

    I know how unlikely it is but I wish he would resume the series if he gets the chance. I want to see the story in the way it was originally intended. However I'll take a sequel over nothing ;) .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭Almarsáre


    Another series would be the preferred option though I thinks its highly unlikely. A sequel would also be great. Hey just so long as we get more stories about this crew, I don't care what format its in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭jaggeh


    im guessing the overall story arc is the crew constantly destabilizing the parliament until a new civil war starts...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Fence


    can't we have both? A film every year for ten years :)

    I'd prefer a series, though it was great to see Serenity on the big screen. Just don't think there is enough time for all of Joss's storyline and characters to fit in films.

    But with Wonder Woman and Goners I don't think he'd have time for a series.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,392 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    have yet to see Serenity [going tomorrow night] but defo a second series of Firefly.

    beside, isn't there gonna be 2 more Serenity movies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Fence


    kaimera wrote:
    beside, isn't there gonna be 2 more Serenity movies?

    the actors are signed on for three films in total. or so say the rumours. But Joss has mentioned a figure of 80 million needed (interntational) in order to turn a profit and get the sequel made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭angelofdeath


    i'd prefer them to leave it to rest, the series and climatic (sp?) ending in the form of a movie is just perfect the way it is, how many series/movies have been ruined by people milking them for all they're worth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭Daelus


    i'd prefer them to leave it to rest, the series and climatic (sp?) ending in the form of a movie is just perfect the way it is, how many series/movies have been ruined by people milking them for all they're worth

    But they're not being milked for all they're worth. Joss has plenty of stories in his head. The series was supposed to go on for seven seasons, apparently. A half season and a movie isn't all it's got in it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭angelofdeath


    yeah and i thought the first series of buffy was promising and the first series of angel was watchable and look how they went


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭Daelus


    Uh.. they got about ten times better?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 413 ✭✭spooydermot


    jaggeh wrote:
    im guessing the overall story arc is the crew constantly destabilizing the parliament until a new civil war starts...


    that'd be kind of cool, he could have ended the arc with a new civil war and Malcom either being pleased by this because he could 'put right' the balance of power in the universe or unable to come to terms with the fact that he helped cause a new war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭tvnutz


    Daelus wrote:
    Uh.. they got about ten times better?


    That's true,especially in regard to Angel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Hugh Hefner


    Aye. Buffy got much, much better until about the 5th season whereat it slowly started getting worse (with a few spikes of improvement here and there). Angel got far better as it went along too. Then in the second last season it started getting worse but I think it ended being above average.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Spideyman


    I get the feeling from seeing some interviews that Joss has had it with TV, or a least the networks from how much they jerked him about. With the films he has far more control, and less of a chance of someone deciding to end the movie halfway through. Still would prefer a series myself but only if it was aired well in contrast to before.
    On a similar note: I might be reading into this too much but I get the feeling that "Can't stop the signal" is a wee bit of a metaphor for this, something that the general public needs/wants to see, is stopped by authority but is seen in the end despite their interference (the jump from TV to film through the popularity of DVD). May be BS but I just saw an interesting parallel)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    If this job goes down there won't be another one

    I <3 Joss Whedon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭Hugh Hefner


    Spideyman wrote:
    On a similar note: I might be reading into this too much but I get the feeling that "Can't stop the signal" is a wee bit of a metaphor for this, something that the general public needs/wants to see, is stopped by authority but is seen in the end despite their interference (the jump from TV to film through the popularity of DVD). May be BS but I just saw an interesting parallel)
    I thought that was the whole point.



    P.s. Sutty? Can we stop using spoiler tags on everything now? The film's been out for ages.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 4,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Suaimhneach


    I agree with second series. Though, isnt the movie meant to be a trilogy?

    I was on fireflyfans.net but its too geeerah a site for me to use...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,014 ✭✭✭sutty


    I cant see why eather of the posts on this page used spoiler tags :eek: there nothing spoilerish in them. In terms of plot/direct ref to moments in the movie. Yeah I'd still like people to use tags. Not everyone went to see the movie. So hopefully more will rent it. I had a feeling it would go that way. A lot of sci-fi movies do. Look at pitch black. I dont even remember it getting a Big screen release. But it got a second movie, a game and a cartoon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    When it comes to spoiler tags, I find better safe than sorry to be a good basis of use


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Sequel rumour: http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/673/673102p1.html
    ...on the Sci-Fi channel apparently.

    Would much rather see a series next to SG and BSG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Fence


    SofaKing wrote:
    Sequel rumour: http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/673/673102p1.html
    ...on the Sci-Fi channel apparently.

    Would much rather see a series next to SG and BSG.

    Yeah, but according to Whedonesque all this is is a big fat rumour without a single source. I'm wishing, but not getting my hopes up.

    Disclaimers and its all just gossip article but with a few positive statements


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭satchmo


    Without a doubt I'd prefer another series. The whole attraction of Firefly was the characters - it was one of the few (if not only) series where I actually cared what happened to the people in it.
    and considering I only watched the series after seeing the film, I got sadder and sadder as I got to like Wash more and more, knowing his fate :(
    The film was excellent, but being a feature film it has to concentrate on a certain amount of action to get a wide audience - I'd rather see more character development really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭WellCultured


    A new series I suppose.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭WellCultured


    yeah and i thought the first series of buffy was promising and the first series of angel was watchable and look how they went

    LOL.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 975 ✭✭✭Plunky


    I'd go for a new series, definitely... But can we at least finish the 1st one first?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Agreed 14 episodes is only really half a series. I saw the movie first and loved it. Got the first 14 episodes for christmas and watched them all. I cant believe how good this series was and I can believe is got cancelled. God I hope they bring it back, if not it will become a real cult classic. God bless Joss


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,473 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I've 3 episodes of Firefly left to watch and to be honest, I'm stunned that such a good series managed to get cancelled. Who are the networks hiring that quality TV such as this, Family Guy and Space: Above & Beyond can all manage to get cancelled? :mad:

    Oh, I'd go for the second series (or the rest of the first one), the show's a lot more subtle than the movie and I like the inclusion of all the characters rather than the semi-cameo roles some have in the movie.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 4,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Suaimhneach


    God I hope they make another something I can was.

    I watched the movie and then the series as well... heartbreaking, I know.

    Hard to imagine a continuation without *what above spoiler said* in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,092 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Id prefer a new series although I wouldnt mind if they made loads of movies...like star trek or bond, a new movie every few years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,413 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    As much as i hate to say this (and don't flame me cos i'm being honest), i can't see neither!

    Poor box-office takings and Joss being busy with 'Wonder Woman' for the next year or two meaning any further work aboard 'Serenity' is a while off.

    And also can't see the actors / actresses all coming back 3 or 4 years down the line to resurrect the characters.

    Though i really, really, RE-HE-ALLY hope i'm wrong! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,473 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I think you probably are basquille, Serenity's the sort of movie that'll shift a huge number of DVD's and since none of the cast are mainstream Hollywood A-list and Joss Stone seems interested in finishing the story, I can see it being done.

    Also, with so much material for another director/production team to reference, all Joss Stone would *really* need to do is write the screenplay... ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Sleepy wrote:
    Joss Stone would *really* need to do is write the screenplay... ;)

    Joss Stone? Well she has a really good voice I suppose?;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭NineMoons


    Heeeeeeeeee. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,473 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    D'oh, I was a bit tired there! :o


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,564 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=17800

    Looks like it could be the TV show!

    Talk, I'll admit, is cheap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Right eyeryone go out an but the DVD when its out.......bring back firefly oh please god let it be so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭ishmael whale


    I just watched the DVD of the film. I saw the film in the cinema, thought it was damn good and got the series which was even better.

    Watching the film post-series, in Dubphyesque language, its good but not great and I can't imagine replaying it as often as the series. There's something of the nature of the thing that makes it more suitable to series - maybe its the number of characters, I don't know.

    Anyway, however unlikely, a second series has to be the preferred option for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Second series preferrably but hell id take nething.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    I'd prefer a second film. As much as I loved the series, I don't think he could have been quite so daring with it - certain character developments and plot turns would not have panned out in a series, or their effect would have been lessened due to their being stretched out.

    That and, simply, I prefer the medium of film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    Out of interest, if Whedon did go on to make a second series would it be set before or after Serenity? Cos if it was set after Serenity then
    Wash and Shepherd Book wouldn't be in it
    and it just wouldn't be the same.

    I would prefer a second series (or even for the first one to be finished) to a sequel though. There's a lot more in a whole series than there is in a two hour movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,413 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Shame Whedon said in the Q&A on the Aussie DVD of 'Serenity' that a second series is pretty much out of the question!

    :(


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