why do women drive jeeps

vannistelrooy10

what is the point in driving a 3l jeep in traffic. its not like ireland is africa now is it. what do people think on these pieces of monkey crap most of which aint even 4x4

markkilpatrick

They feel safer when there higher up for when they crash into something. But they dont realise that there more of a danger to everyone else.

Johnny Storm

The woman usually gets stuck with the "family" car. They need space for kids, kid's friends and assorted stuff. Many women (wrongly :rolleyes: ) seem to think that jeeps are cooler than people-carriers or estate cars.

kjt

vannistelrooy10 wrote:

what is the point in driving a 3l jeep in traffic. its not like ireland is africa now is it. what do people think on these pieces of monkey crap most of which aint even 4x4

A bit bitchy of you, no?

Whats it got to do with women driving them?, Men drive em too.

You might want to change your title.

Johnny Storm

Yeah, but the men that drive them are probably all lumberjacks so they really need jeeps

kjt

True but its still all a bit prejudice.
Alot of business men have them.

ds20prefecture

Johnny Storm wrote:

Yeah, but the men that drive them are probably all lumberjacks so they really need jeeps

Is this for real? How many lumberjacks have you met recently?

Most people I know with off roaders or "soft roaders" are men. Not one of them ever use them off road, or even get them a little mucky. That doesn't stop them sticking giant knobbly tyres on, though. Their reasons for buying them are beyond me.

Two of the women I know with 4wds use them to tow horse trailers to shows, and actually go off road in them. My sister uses her Landcruiser all the time, but in fairness she IS in Africa.

You do occasionally see so-called "yummy mummies" zipping around Blackrock in an X5 or Range Rover - I imagine that they are senior management types with company cars. I've never met a woman who would fritter away 80000 of her own money on something as stupid as a car. I on the other hand would happily blow 10 times that on cars, if I were so lucky.

Bartonprince

I think most of the time when you see a woman who is middle aged driving anything like that, huge beemers, merc's etc.. they're driving their husbands cars...

ROVER

markkilpatrick wrote:

They feel safer when there higher up for when they crash into something. .

I saw this theory that they are safer rejected on one of the UK motoring tv shows. They did an evasive swerve test at 40mph on a runway simulating avoidance of a sudden pile up on a motorway. The saloon car spun around after the swerve. The Range Rover rolled (at 40mph).

TerrorFirmer

In fairness I've seen as many men that use them as women, and assuming we are talking about people who have jeeps with no actual need for them?

Its an image thing I suppose, although I know some girls who genuinely feel safer in it, so there you go, thats a valid reason enough for alot of the women. I'm sure alot of women also drive the husbands jeep...

Volvoboy

Many women (wrongly ) seem to think that jeeps are cooler than people-carriers or estate cars.

Volvo 850 T5 Estate, it'll pull you out of your grave.

OLDYELLAR

why do women drive jeeps??
The title makes me want to get a bloody jeep and drive over the OP.

Eh I dunno because they can afford to and because they wanna go off roading and burn their bra`s .

Maybe all of us little ladies should get a nice little mini metro so we dont upset anybody :rolleyes:

Johnny Storm

ds20prefecture wrote:

Is this for real? How many lumberjacks have you met recently?....

You're right, of course. Some of the men who drive jeeps are actually lion-tamers.
:rolleyes:

dogg_r_69

ROVER wrote:

I saw this theory that they are safer rejected on one of the UK motoring tv shows. They did an evasive swerve test at 40mph on a runway simulating avoidance of a sudden pile up on a motorway. The saloon car spun around after the swerve. The Range Rover rolled (at 40mph).

That's true but that was a fairly old Range Rover which pretty much looks like a box on 4 wheels Newer jeeps should have a lower centre of gravity than that Range Rover plus better suspension The Ford Explorer was another jeep that didn't handle turning very well either but they had different problems with tyres and so on

PaulieC

1) Women are as entitled as men to drive whatever they want
2) People who buy SUVs are mostly misguided because they are
a) no more commodious than a similarly priced saloon car (apart from
the 7 seaters, but you're talking silly money from them
b) not safer than a similarly priced saloon car. Because of the engine size
in these babies, the VRT is usually 30%. Therefore, to keep the price
as low as possible, the 'safe' features are usually the first to go e.g
4WD, DSC etc., making the SUV less safe. New Nissan x-trail 2wd
3) SUV should not be banned from city centre streets. It is a violation of civil rights. SUVs are a fashion item, which is why so many people are buying them. Thy will soon go out of fashion. If we want to get them off the streets the quickest way is to make fun of the people for buying them

mike65

ds20prefecture wrote:

Is this for real? How many lumberjacks have you met recently?

Methinks your sarcasm detector has failed!

Mike.

Rovi

I think it's great that rich people are buying all these mall-terrain vehicles.
Where do you think us 'real' off-roaders get our supply of 10-20 year old 4x4's?


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Johnny Storm

"Mall-terrain" is a great name for them.

HelterSkelter

You should see the school beside where I work. Everyday there is traffic chaos with women driving these jeeps/suv's picking their little darlings up from school. I can't stand men or women who drive these.

Cake Fiend

I think the real question is, what are they doing out of the kitchen in the first place!!!!!!!111oneoneeleventy

Eh?

Am I right lads?

HelterSkelter

BTW, another thing about these jeeps are they are so big I cannot see ahead of them. Anytime I took driving lessons I was always told to watch 2 or 3 cars ahead. With these jeeps I can only see as far as their huge spare tyre on the back. They are making driving more dangerous for all us poor untrendy car drivers.

Turner

I hate to see little pale faced fat fcuk's being picked up from school by mummies in 80k-90k jeeps...

Let them get off their fat arses and walk to school, wont do them a bit of harm.

On a side note... I do like 10-15yr old jeeps and in the future hope to buy one, so mummies keep buyin!!

NeMiSiS

Hahaaha, country roads, I've never met a jeep on a country road that has made the remotest bit of effort to pull in. They tend to come blazing along on the wrong side of the road. It's a status symbol "I am rich! I can handle this huge machine to cradle and nurse my babies all the way to the school yard! I am woman! Hear me roar!'
Em...
TK

HelterSkelter

Ficus wrote:

My thoughts on this are that families buy these for safety and space..

How are they safer? Because they are bigger and will squash any car they crash into??? What happens when everyone gets jeeps, will some people start driving double decker buses because they feel safer in them???? Anyway, what serious accidents ever happen picking the kids up from a school in the city when everyone is driving at an average speed of 20kmph??

As for space, why don't they drive Fiat Multiplas? Lots of space in them.

Gandhi

A good friend of mine actually is a lumberjack, and he drives a pickup truck.

And cambo_gueno, there is no "civil right" to drive an SUV in the city centre any more than there is a "civil right" to land a jumbo jet on O'Connell Street at rush hour, or a "civil right" to drive a donkey and cart at 3kph in the passing lane of the M50.

Nobody is saying you can't travel in downtown Paris, they are saying you can't bring in a vehicle that disproportionately contributes to congestion, road wear, danger, and pollution. Unless the government put a gun to your head and told you to buy a Chevy Tahoe, and then told you not to drive it, there is not a civil rights violation.

I could buy myself a double-decker bus to drive to work in, but I don't have a "civil right" to have the government immediately demolish and rebuild every low bridge and tunnel in the country for my convenience.

BrianD3

HelterSkelter wrote:

How are they safer? Because they are bigger and will squash any car they crash into???

This is certainly true of many older 4wds. Eg old Nissan Patrols, Troopers, Pajeros will demolish a smaller vehicle in a crash. But put the jeep up against something more solid like a big tree, ditch, pillar, artic etc. and they are worse than a normal car due to crude design, lack of crumple zones and so on.

However as already mentioned the modern jeeps are a big improvement and many do very well in the EuroNCAP. They're still very aggressive towards other vehicles though.

Here are some pics of what happens when a Toyota Landcruiser VX collides with a Renault 19.
http://langlovagok.hu/kepek/ftp/szentlorincifront.shtml

Keyzer

HelterSkelter wrote:

How are they safer? Because they are bigger and will squash any car they crash into??? What happens when everyone gets jeeps, will some people start driving double decker buses because they feel safer in them???? .

Hahaha, very funny...

I assume women drive them because the neighbours have one and "we must keep up with the jones" etc. and because jeeps are fashionable now, like volvo's for the 40 year old boring gang in the 80's.

I hate people who fall into categories like this....

and why oh why dont they let the kids walk to school, no wonder I see so many fat little bstards everywhere...

HelterSkelter

Ficus wrote:

... people want to give themselfs and their loved ones the best chance possible.

It's nothing to do with safety, it's a status symbol, pure snobbery. If they want to feel safe they can buy a volvo, they're supposed to be the safest car. Or they could walk/get the bus.

HelterSkelter

Keyzer wrote:

Hahaha, very funny...

I assume women drive them because the neighbours have one and "we must keep up with the jones" etc. and because jeeps are fashionable now, like volvo's for the 40 year old boring gang in the 80's.

I hate people who fall into categories like this....

and why oh why dont they let the kids walk to school, no wonder I see so many fat little bstards everywhere...

I couldn't agree more...and as for those fat little bastards...they always have something in their mouth as well, and they wonder why they are so fat!!

Keyzer

HelterSkelter wrote:

It's nothing to do with safety, it's a status symbol, pure snobbery. If they want to feel safe they can buy a volvo, they're supposed to be the safest car. Or they could walk/get the bus.

I agree...

If it boiled down to safety then all the mothers would be driving the kids in tanks or amoured personel carriers, cos little johnnys safety should have no price...

Its a status symbol, like a penis extension for a man, for a woman its "hey look at me, I'm loaded and well to do and have a great life etc. because I drive a Jeep the size of a house"....

Keyzer

HelterSkelter wrote:

I couldn't agree more...and as for those fat little bastards...they always have something in their mouth as well, and they wonder why they are so fat!!

Aye, little fat gits arent they...
Mothers do far too much for kids these days...

When I were a chissler I had to walk 3-4 miles to school, bring sambos (Yes sambos to all you young people out there, Mumsy didnt give me 20 quid a day to spend on crap), and my mother used to paint my feet black and draw shoelaces on them (ok, the last part is a slight exaggeration)....

A lift to or from school was like xmas for me...

Keyzer

Ficus wrote:

I know several people who have bought 4X4 jeeps on the grounds of safety and giving themselfs and their families a better chance in an accident, so obviously it does have something to do with it!
Sure there are people out there who buy them for status and the look at me factor but i am just saying that not everone who owns one is a self centered knob looking for attention.

If you want safety, don't leave the house....
This idea of safety is a load of crap, its another gimmick to get people to buy a particular car.
Do you really think a Jeep, or anything else for that matter, would stand a chance if a Steamroller driver, in a fit of madness, drove over them?
I mean come on people, safety sucks anyway, live life on the edge....

PaulieC

Gandhi wrote:

A good friend of mine actually is a lumberjack, and he drives a pickup truck.

And cambo_gueno, there is no "civil right" to drive an SUV in the city centre any more than there is a "civil right" to land a jumbo jet on O'Connell Street at rush hour, or a "civil right" to drive a donkey and cart at 3kph in the passing lane of the M50.

Nobody is saying you can't travel in downtown Paris, they are saying you can't bring in a vehicle that disproportionately contributes to congestion, road wear, danger, and pollution. Unless the government put a gun to your head and told you to buy a Chevy Tahoe, and then told you not to drive it, there is not a civil rights violation.

I could buy myself a double-decker bus to drive to work in, but I don't have a "civil right" to have the government immediately demolish and rebuild every low bridge and tunnel in the country for my convenience.

...people with cars are allowed to drive on roads. Airplanes are forbidden by law to land on roads. Similarly, you need to have a vehicle of at least 50CC that can travel at least 30mph to use a motorway.

SUVs don't contribute to congestion - there are saloons and MPVs with bigger footprints than most MPVS. Do we ban them also?
Road wear - do we ban all vehicles heavier than SUVs?
Danger - again, do we ban all vehicles bigger than an SUV?
Pollution - ...you get the idea...

it is dangerous to legislate against what people can and cannot drive. They should be discouraged by all means, but not banned.

alias no.9

There are three reasons behind the proliferation of SUV's in recent years

1 Status Symbol - obviously overcompensating for something else

2 Safety - completely misguided the extra weight and higher centre of gravity combine to make a vehicle thats less agile and less able to avoid collision in the first place and more likely to roll in the event of a crash. Most of them are based on ordinary cars, so structural rigidity is nothing to write home about. Even old school ladder frame 4x4's are very poor if they get t-boned, most of the structural strength is in the chassis which sits about a foot inside the side of the car.

3 Family - misguided again, they're no more roomey than estate but for the school run they're ideal because you don't have to worry about parking, just drive over those pesky kerbs and theres loads of room on the footpath. Sure other peoples children don't mind walking on the road in the busy traffic.

The best method I've heard for distinguishing between SUV's with some 'work' function v's the ones for status or school runs is to look for a tow hitch, if it ain't there...

Rovi

alias no.9 wrote:

The best method I've heard for distinguishing between SUV's with some 'work' function v's the ones for status or school runs is to look for a tow hitch, if it ain't there...

Hmmmmmmm...............
Mine's got 4 tow hitches, but isn't exactly a 'work' vehicle.

I wonder what category I fall into???


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BrianD3

alias no.9 wrote:

The best method I've heard for distinguishing between SUV's with some 'work' function v's the ones for status or school runs is to look for a tow hitch, if it ain't there...

Yep. But that brings up another issue. One of the major advantages of jeeps vs cars is the ability to tow heavy trailers. However many of the jeep drivers towing these heavy trailers don't have the correct "EB" licence and are therefore driving unlicenced and uninsured. Luckily for them the Gardai and insurance companies seem to be either unaware of this or are happy to turn a blind eye to it.

It is at least ten years since EB was awarded automatically with B. Anyone who passed their car test in the last ten years needs to do a car + trailer test before they can legally drive something like a Pajero + double horsebox

prospect

BrianD3 wrote:

Yep. But that brings up another issue. One of the major advantages of jeeps vs cars is the ability to tow heavy trailers. However many of the jeep drivers towing these heavy trailers don't have the correct "EB" licence and are therefore driving unlicenced and uninsured. Luckily for them the Gardai and insurance companies seem to be either unaware of this or are happy to turn a blind eye to it.

It is at least ten years since EB was awarded automatically with B. Anyone who passed their car test in the last ten years needs to do a car + trailer test before they can legally drive something like a Pajero + double horsebox

True, but this only applies to very large trailers.
I often drive a jeep, (Kia Sorrento) with a twin axle trailer (9' Floor Lenght). I e-mailed the dept of transport and they said my bog standard license (not their exact words) is sufficient. Also, to my surprise, there was no requirement for me to have a 4wd vehicle towing a twin axle trailer, as I had been previously led to believe.

BrianD3

prospect, the trailers don't have to be very large if it's a big jeep that's towing them. Take the new Discovery or Landcruiser VX. Both of these have kerb weights of around 2500 kg and design gross vehicle weights of around 3200 kg. The max d.g.v.w you can drive on a B licence is 3500 kg. If your trailer is 750 kg or less, you can go up to 4250 kg.

IOW, if you have a B licence the biggest trailer you can tow with one of these big jeeps is 750 kg d.g.v.w. Which is not very big. Obvioulsy your Sorento is a fair bit lighter than a Landcruiser VX. But still, you could be borderline with a Sorento + twin axle trailer with a 9 ft bed.

HotRodDub

I've never seen so much crap in one thread in all my life. It must amount to jealously - I dont know why. People have this attitude that people who drive jeeps are rich and snobby. If people in this country would get off their back sides and look for bargain rather that going with the flow then they would see that jeeps are not expensive. You could easily pick up a 5 year old Landcruiser over in the UK for the same as a new Micra here, but people here want the 05 registration - that more snobby than driving a jeep.

And as for giving off about women driving them to pick up kids - not everyone can have a vehicle for every occasion, maybe these people have a horse box/caravan/motocross bike etc,etc, to tow on the weekend, they cant afford, a weekend vehicle, a school vehicle and so on.

I agree some people never got off road on them, but maybe they like how they look, its a free country.

Also especially in the Dublin, if you are complaining that the school runs have jeep after jeep, well is the problem not the fact that there are no buses for these kids in the first place - another issue altogether.

And just to confirm, there is a jeep in our family, it is used off the road on a daily basis, and I have to admit my wife drives it more than I do, both on and off the road, so dont tar everyone with the same brush - and if you see a womon in a BMW X5 this evening on your way home from work, ask yourself if you'd like to be driving it instead!

vannistelrooy10

HotRodDub wrote:

I've never seen so much crap in one thread in all my life. It must amount to jealously - I dont know why. People have this attitude that people who drive jeeps are rich and snobby. If people in this country would get off their back sides and look for bargain rather that going with the flow then they would see that jeeps are not expensive. You could easily pick up a 5 year old Landcruiser over in the UK for the same as a new Micra here, but people here want the 05 registration - that more snobby than driving a jeep.

And as for giving off about women driving them to pick up kids - not everyone can have a vehicle for every occasion, maybe these people have a horse box/caravan/motocross bike etc,etc, to tow on the weekend, they cant afford, a weekend vehicle, a school vehicle and so on.

I agree some people never got off road on them, but maybe they like how they look, its a free country.

Also especially in the Dublin, if you are complaining that the school runs have jeep after jeep, well is the problem not the fact that there are no buses for these kids in the first place - another issue altogether.

And just to confirm, there is a jeep in our family, it is used off the road on a daily basis, and I have to admit my wife drives it more than I do, both on and off the road, so dont tar everyone with the same brush - and if you see a womon in a BMW X5 this evening on your way home from work, ask yourself if you'd like to be driving it instead!

Dam right your wife uses it off road.......................On the Path!!!
or it is parked by ur wife on 'your' property OUTSIDE your house???
you know the bit of land that when it gets a bit muddy or path gets broken due to the monsterous weight of your 2wd 'Jeep' you dis-own it and tell the council to repair it.
btw does your wife have fake tan,blonde hair and is ignorant and she owns the roads too???

vannistelrooy10

vannistelrooy10 wrote:

Dam right your wife uses it off road.......................On the Path!!!
or it is parked by ur wife on 'your' property OUTSIDE your house???
you know the bit of land that when it gets a bit muddy or path gets broken due to the monsterous weight of your 2wd 'Jeep' you dis-own it and tell the council to repair it.
btw does your wife have fake tan,blonde hair and is ignorant and she owns the roads too???

sorry i went on a rant there and that is toally besides the point of WHY do women NEED jeeps???
when i see them on their mobiles driving to and from the gym (for some reason beyond me) i always think the jeep is a peace offering after the husband cheated on her. weird i know but if you ever have a run in with one you will know what i mean and laugh.
also we are being fined by he E.C for carbon emmisions over our quota, i will blame the jeeps for this.
and as for the argument they use it for the school run that is bull**** a most jeeps have 1 person in them.
and most fellas in jeeps are tradesmen as there is no back seat in them

vannistelrooy10

Ficus wrote:

sure it means that if involved in an accident the jeep will have better structural integrity than a car, but then a car will have a better chance against a motor bike yet all of these will be superceeded by a bus when involved in crash. people want to give themselfs and their loved ones the best chance possible.
one of the main issues to tackle people who drive these vehicles is the complacency they have that they are safer and so take more risks and/or are less attentive to the road and its users.
As i said in my pervious posts, its better driver training and testing that will help bring down the accident rate and make the roads safer so people will no longer feel the need to buy these big vehicles.

you are dam right

vannistelrooy10

Ficus wrote:

I know several people who have bought 4X4 jeeps on the grounds of safety and giving themselfs and their families a better chance in an accident, so obviously it does have something to do with it!
Sure there are people out there who buy them for status and the look at me factor but i am just saying that not everone who owns one is a self centered knob looking for attention.

I drive and i think my aim is the same as everybodys avoid accidents and obey the rules of the road to do this. that is just bull**** and is a indication of their attitude. my car is bigger so i can drive like a dickhead. and in life i have too much money so i am a arrogant, ignorant and a patronising wanker

Victor

Ficus wrote:

I know several people who have bought 4X4 jeeps on the grounds of safety and giving themselfs and their families a better chance in an accident, so obviously it does have something to do with it!

SUVs are no safer than similarly priced cars.

Gandhi

cambo_gueno wrote:

...people with cars are allowed to drive on roads. Airplanes are forbidden by law to land on roads. Similarly, you need to have a vehicle of at least 50CC that can travel at least 30mph to use a motorway.

...and the reason for those laws is that even though theoretically every citizen has the right to unencumbered passage over public byways, it is not feasible to allow every conceivable type of vehicle on every square inch of the roadways. Pilots' associations don't complain that their civil rights are being violated by the fact that they can only land at airports. People know that to create a safe, efficient, transportation network, you need laws that don't treat every vehicle equally.

cambo_gueno wrote:

SUVs don't contribute to congestion - there are saloons and MPVs with bigger footprints than most MPVS. Do we ban them also?
Road wear - do we ban all vehicles heavier than SUVs?
Danger - again, do we ban all vehicles bigger than an SUV?
Pollution - ...you get the idea...

Congestion -
In general, the average SUV's footprint is much larger than the average car's. Would a few large cars slip through on a technicality? Probably. Just like almost every law ever passed, there will be a rare, lucky few who find their way through a loophole.
A big issue with SUVs is height, which interferes with other drivers' vision. Also their weight, centre of gravity, and turning radius, slow them down on turns. SUVs parked on a busy street are a danger as they are higher than the head of a pedestrian (particulary a child) trying to cross.

On your other points, comparisons to larger vehicles are not valid. Vehicles larger than SUVs are rarely in city centres unless out of necessity. Trucks or buses going from Belfast to Wexford are not taking short-cuts down O'Connell Street. Any business that sends a large truck into the city centre is rarely sending anything that could be stuffed in the back of a VW bug. With the way petrol prices are, any company making a habit of that would be out of business pretty fast.

SUVs on the other hand, usually contain an amount of passengers and cargo that could easily have fit in a much smaller car.

Danger - Larger vehicles have stricter licensing, inspection, and insurance requirements. An SUV can do far more damage than a Corolla, yet has the same licensing requirements.

Pollution - As I mentioned, economic practicalities take care of it in the case of larger vehicles.

cambio_gueno wrote:

it is dangerous to legislate against what people can and cannot drive. They should be discouraged by all means, but not banned.

How is it dangerous to legislate what can be driven where? The first two sentences of your post listed two bans on public roads.

I am not suggesting that SUVs be banned, just restricted away from areas unsuitable for them. There are already vehicle restrictions everywhere you look - pedestrianised streets, cycle paths, weight-limited bridges, height-limited tunnels. Are all of those dangerous because they legislate what people can and cannot drive in a particular area?

To be honest, I didn't feel that strongly on this issue until I saw you refer to it as a "civil rights" issue. A few suburban housewives being mildly inconvenienced does not make them the next Nelson Mandela.

Calibos

vannistelrooy10 wrote:

sorry i went on a rant there and that is toally besides the point of WHY do women NEED jeeps???
when i see them on their mobiles driving to and from the gym (for some reason beyond me) i always think the jeep is a peace offering after the husband cheated on her. weird i know but if you ever have a run in with one you will know what i mean and laugh.
also we are being fined by he E.C for carbon emmisions over our quota, i will blame the jeeps for this.
and as for the argument they use it for the school run that is bull**** a most jeeps have 1 person in them.
and most fellas in jeeps are tradesmen as there is no back seat in them

When I see a woman in a jeep I always think that the husband knows she is a crap driver. He can't get her to improve her driving because she refuses to accept that there is anything wrong with her driving in the first place. "Sure aren't all women safe drivers, don't the insurance companies charge them less!" Ergo, to product his kids, in the event of a crash he buys the missus a big 4x4 or SUV. Problem is that while his kids are safer, the rest of us aren't. It was bad enough when the missus was at the wheel of a half tonne killing machine. Now she has a 3 tonne killing machine.

Well thats what goes through my head when I see a woman in a jeep, but then again I am a self confessed mysogynistic chauvinist bas***d

dahamsta

The responses to obvious trolls at the start of this thread made me flush with embarassment. Are people getting stupider?

Anyway, I think we can repurpose the response to an old joke for this one:

“Cos they don't have balls to scratch.”

HotRodDub

vannistelrooy10 wrote:

Dam right your wife uses it off road.......................On the Path!!!
or it is parked by ur wife on 'your' property OUTSIDE your house???
you know the bit of land that when it gets a bit muddy or path gets broken due to the monsterous weight of your 2wd 'Jeep' you dis-own it and tell the council to repair it.
btw does your wife have fake tan,blonde hair and is ignorant and she owns the roads too???

Hey vannistelrooy10 did you read any of my message?, or are you still annoyed that these women are driving around in something you would only love to drive around in.

Our jeep is a Landcrusier, my wife farms - OK!! nothing snobby about that, understand??? She could probably teach alot of males a thing or two about driving.

There is a big difference between this and say, some fake tanned lady in a BMW X5, but at the end of the day everyone is entitled to buy and spend their money as they see fit.

HelterSkelter

vannistelrooy10 wrote:

Dam right your wife uses it off road.......................On the Path!!!
or it is parked by ur wife on 'your' property OUTSIDE your house???
you know the bit of land that when it gets a bit muddy or path gets broken due to the monsterous weight of your 2wd 'Jeep' you dis-own it and tell the council to repair it.
btw does your wife have fake tan,blonde hair and is ignorant and she owns the roads too???

Ha ha, brilliant!

prospect

HotRodDub wrote:

so dont tar everyone with the same brush

HotRodDub wrote:

She could probably teach alot of males a thing or two about driving

:rolleyes:

vannistelrooy10

you would only love to drive around in.

Our jeep is a Landcrusier, my wife farms - OK!! nothing snobby about that, understand???
There is a big difference between this and say, some fake tanned lady in a BMW X5, but at the end of the day everyone is entitled to buy and spend their money as they see fit.[/QUOTE]


yes okay if you have use for the thing than fine. and are you that stupid to think I would like to drive one of them. i HATE them words dont describe how much i hate them AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. **** sake