.Liar Liar,Your pants are on Fire

Pighead · 29-09-2005 7:20pm #1

Are people less truthful today than they were, say, a generation ago?I'm finding more and more of my friends are lying to me.They lie often, and lie without remorse,Whats going on
Take my so-called-best-friend Pernel(I've changed his name to protect his identity). Lately, he has been lying to me a lot. He lies about the strangest things. He told me that he was in town on Sunday night and he picked up a stunning looking girl in Pravda. Now i know for a fact this isn't true. Firstly hes never been the best with the ladies and hes not getting any younger so to have suddenly developed a talent for picking up pretty young things sounds suspect.Secondly i was talking to his brother yesterday and it turns out Pernel stayed in on Sunday night to play the new Day of Defeat game.
I dont know why he would lie about that. Thats just one of the things he lies about. I mean, he lies a lot to everyone else, too. It seems he lies to his friends more than he tells the truth to them. And the things he lies about are really lame.
I know genuine friendship goes through trials that test the honesty and intimacy of friends. I know i should respond to the challenge lovingly and with sincere regard for him to overcome these obstacles. But theres only so much I can take. Surely i'm better off without someone who degrades you or diminishes your self-worth.
We have become a nation of liars. The politicians lie, journalists lie, corporate CEOs lie, and stockbrokers and other salesmen lie. Advertisers lie. Businesses lie. Priests and OJ simpson lie.
But Pighead surely a white lie is ok if it stops somebody getting hurt
WRONG
Pighead thinks lying to spare someone's feelings is downright wrong, especially if it is someone who trusts you to be honest with them.
As the devil once said, don't ask the question if you don't want the answer.
The only time I think lying is okay is for surprises. Say Sarky wants to buy Pighead a present or discuss a surprise boards party for him, it is okay to tell Pighead that you are going to a friends place to watch the game or something like that. Things like that are,, okay to lie about.
Otherwise lying makes me want to vomit
Are you a liar?Tell the truth

Stompbox · 29-09-2005 7:22pm

Too much text so I didn't bother read it. Something about lying?

Chong · 29-09-2005 7:23pm

Ya way too long , also I despise the way Pighead always talks about himself in the third person.

Pighead · 29-09-2005 7:25pm

Pighead despises the way people these days are too lazy to read past 2 lines.Honestly the youth of today
WDK heres a wee tip
IGNORE BUTTON. :rolleyes:

Le Rack · 29-09-2005 7:28pm

Lying is stupid people will always find out the truth...

Chong · 29-09-2005 7:28pm

Yep well think I am going to have to at this stage.

Pighead · 29-09-2005 7:37pm

WDK wrote:

Yep well think I am going to have to at this stage.

Good lad,that wasn't too hard now was it
Le Rack,unfortunately people do not always find out the truth which is why lying is so tempting for so many.There are countless people out there who are walking the streets having lied through their teeth to save themselves going to prison.There are also countless relationships still on the go because one of the partners chose to lie about his/her infidelities to save themselves getting the elbow

Chong · 29-09-2005 7:40pm

I dont think I will ignore you because you kinda irritate me in a good way. In a good way I hear you say well I get the chance to back bite and be smart with you pighead.

Nala · 29-09-2005 7:41pm

I love the way Pighead talks about himself in the third person, I think it's funny!

I am a big Pighead fan.

Pighead · 29-09-2005 7:44pm

WDK wrote:

I dont think I will ignore you because you kinda irritate me in a good way. In a good way I hear you say well I get the chance to back bite and be smart with you pighead.

Pigheads not entirely sure he understood that post so forgive me if i've picked you up wrong.But basically you're saying that you love me and you want me to put you on my buddy list.Is that right?

Chong · 29-09-2005 7:45pm

Yes spot on Pighead just so I can bicker with you and in general criticise your posts lol.

Pighead · 29-09-2005 7:52pm

WDK wrote:

Yes spot on Pighead just so I can bicker with you and in general criticise your posts lol.

WDK first person to be added to Pigheads buddy list
Anyway back on topic
If your partner asks you if she has a fat arse, the morally proper thing to do is let her know she resembles a heffer in a g-string.She will thank you down the line

Giblet · 29-09-2005 7:52pm

If you don't read the original post, then why reply?

spiderlegs · 29-09-2005 8:00pm

Lying is bad and wrong and you will ALWAYS get found out eventually and it will always cause more problems if you lie instead of telling the truth straight away.Lying is WRONG! Oh if people were honest how easier things would become...

Jonny Arson · 29-09-2005 8:08pm

I'll put my hand up as another fan of Pighead's third person ramblings!

Pighead is completely spot on about the way lying dominates our lives. We live in a dog eat dog world out there and even if it's about something as trivial as ''I pulled a hot bird the other night'' some people feel that lying will get them further with people and gain more respect.

Sure we all lie about silly things now and again and exagerate but it's sad the way so many people will lie over anything just to get one up on someone.

About your mate Pighead. He may be lacking in confidence or feels inferior to the rest of your social network. If he starts lying about anything sinister then you should give him a porkchop!

Pighead · 29-09-2005 8:10pm

You're right spiderlegs but lets face it, in so many ways, we are all ... living a lie. We live many lies. We can condemn the Bertie and Haughey in such a way as to be just shy of stoning him outside the dail, but easily forget about the lies we tell to our bosses, spouses, children and friends.
. . .
Lying and deception, including self-deception, are so common in Ireland, they are a part of everyday life.
The only part of society free from this charge are little children, it's refreshing, comical, (and often embarrassing) to hear them speak so honestly and forthright. Pighead wishes he was 7 again

spiderlegs · 29-09-2005 8:20pm

Yes but those seven year old kids can be cruel.One told me I had hands like et.His mother claimed he was only stating that I had long fingers....I hope thats what that kid meant!
Little lies are ok I suppose but big ones are bad, and I just can't lie about big things to people...but then it just depends what kind of person you are.....everyone lies about things sometimes it just depends what you decide to lie about.As for your friend maybe he's just feelin' a little insecure of late....maybe I dunno.

Kernel · 29-09-2005 8:35pm

hahah.. ok... I'm going to say that your theory that this 'Pernel' cannot be correct, since Day of Defeat was only released on the 26th, so he couldn't have played it on Sunday.

Ergo, *you* are lying Pighead.

I once scored a nice chick in Pravda, and went back to her place, while a mate of mine, let's call him Bighead, ended up in his strides in a jail cell with 2 other blokes for the night.

True story people, true story.

butters scotch · 29-09-2005 8:35pm

sometimes lies are necessary if they get you out of trouble or to spare people from getting hurt. if it were me in regards to some things its better to be ignorant...

Lamia · 29-09-2005 8:42pm

Some people are compulsive liars, they dont seem to be able to help it...weird

I cant really lie to tell the truth!

Raphael · 29-09-2005 8:44pm

I think Pighead's a tosser, but he's the amusing kind of tosser. Good in small doses, makes you want to commit hari-kiri with a dishcloth in large doses.

OT, I'd usually tell the truth, sometimes I lie as a first reaction, which is a pain in the hole.

LadyJ · 29-09-2005 9:03pm

So I just received a PM from the Pig himself which reads

Pighead wrote:

LadyJ,I wouldn't say this to just anyone but you are by far the most fantastic and enchanting flower in the garden of weeds that is Boards.ie

However!!!!!!! Kernel has just shown me a PM he received from the piggy which reads

Pighead wrote:

Kernel,no one compares to you on this website! I wouldn't say this to just anyone but you are by far the most fantastic and enchanting flower in this garden of weeds

LIAR!!!!!!! :mad: And he barely changed the wording!

It's over Pigboy! :mad:

Pighead · 29-09-2005 9:18pm

Raphael wrote:

I think Pighead's a tosser, but he's the amusing kind of tosser. Good in small doses, makes you want to commit hari-kiri with a dishcloth in large doses.

OT, I'd usually tell the truth, sometimes I lie as a first reaction, which is a pain in the hole.

Thanks buddy,that means a lot.As the great Voltaire once said "here are truths which are not for all men, nor for all times"
Anyway We are lied to about 200 times each day.
Most people lie to others once or twice a day and deceive about 30 people per week.
The average is 7 times per hour if you count all the times people lie to themselves.
We lie in 30 to 38% of all our interactions.
College students lie in 50% of conversations with their mothers.
((The numbers above are based partially on information from Pigheads Mother Father and sister and some of his flatmates and not the Bureau of Labor Statistics.)

Kernel · 29-09-2005 9:20pm

LadyJ wrote:

LIAR!!!!!!! :mad: And he barely changed the wording!

It's over Pigboy! :mad:

Yes, it's all true J, he told me I was special... *sniff* I feel so used...

Pighead · 29-09-2005 9:20pm

LadyJ wrote:

So I just received a PM from the Pig himself which reads

However!!!!!!! Kernel has just shown me a PM he received from the piggy which reads

LIAR!!!!!!! :mad: And he barely changed the wording!

It's over Pigboy! :mad:

Liar!Theres only one true love for me on boards and you know it Lady J.Don't mind the brazen hussy Kernel,i'll never desert you,you're my favourite argumentative narky poster on boards.End of story

LadyJ · 29-09-2005 9:23pm

Kernel wrote:

Yes, it's all true J, he told me I was special... *sniff* I feel so used...

Pighead wrote:

Liar!Theres only one true love for me on boards and you know it Lady J.Don't mind the brazen hussy Kernel,i'll never desert you,you're my favourite argumentative narky poster on boards.End of story

I'm torn! Who's the liar?

I guess it's whoever has a blistery ass tomorrow!

Pighead · 29-09-2005 9:25pm

butters scotch wrote:

sometimes lies are necessary if they get you out of trouble or to spare people from getting hurt. if it were me in regards to some things its better to be ignorant...

But what's the difference between a little white lie and a normal lie? I mean really. It's all the same at the core, not truth. People call them white lies to make themselves feel better. They tell themselves the lie wasn't meant to hurt or even that it was a good thing, less painful for the person they're lying to, as if they're doing the person a favor. People lie to themselves all the time. A lie is a lie and I've told plenty, but I don't lie to myself.

Kernel · 29-09-2005 9:27pm

LadyJ wrote:

I'm torn! Who's the liar?

I guess it's whoever has a blistery ass tomorrow!

Well, it wont be Pighead, he moisturises his ass 'for the jockey's pleasure' as he says.

Aisling(",) · 29-09-2005 9:27pm

To be honest I don't think that there is anyone that I know that I haven't lied to.:

Teachers:homework not done,test is for tomorrow not today etc.

Friends:What I think of their clothes hair etc

Parents:Everything I do

Boyfriend:small things cant remember

My life would be over if my parents found out even some very small things about my life

Kernel · 29-09-2005 9:32pm

Aisling(",) wrote:

To be honest I don't think that there is anyone that I know that I haven't lied to.:

Teachers:homework not done,test is for tomorrow not today etc.

Friends:What I think of their clothes hair etc

Parents:Everything I do

Boyfriend:small things cant remember

My life would be over if my parents found out even some very small things about my life

Maybe you should change your life so you wouldn't have to lie so much?

LadyJ · 29-09-2005 9:35pm

Kernel wrote:

Well, it wont be Pighead, he moisturises his ass 'for the jockey's pleasure' as he says.

*shudder*

Pighead · 29-09-2005 9:37pm

Okay Kernel, so everybody lies (apparently a lot), but it seems particularly shameful to lie so often that you're not even aware that you're lying. You'd think that the more you were aware of it, that the less you would do it. So in the interest of self-improvement, I was trying to consciously remember the last time I lied, which turned out to be this afternoon when I told you that you were one of my dearest friends and i really admired you. Reason for lying: sloth.

Kernel · 29-09-2005 9:41pm

Pighead wrote:

Okay Kernel, so everybody lies (apparently a lot), but it seems particularly shameful to lie so often that you're not even aware that you're lying. You'd think that the more you were aware of it, that the less you would do it. So in the interest of self-improvement, I was trying to consciously remember the last time I lied, which turned out to be this afternoon when I told you that you were one of my dearest friends and i really admired you. Reason for lying: sloth.

When I said I wasn't with your Girlfriend in Dundalk the other week... I admit.. I also told a lie... we checked into a hotel on a friday, and emerged from our room on Sunday.... I'm sorry man, it didn't mean anything. (well, not to me).

Pighead · 29-09-2005 9:41pm

Aisling(",) wrote:

To be honest I don't think that there is anyone that I know that I haven't lied to.:

Teachers:homework not done,test is for tomorrow not today etc.

Friends:What I think of their clothes hair etc

Parents:Everything I do

Boyfriend:small things cant remember

My life would be over if my parents found out even some very small things about my life

Ah come on Aisling buddy,you're better than that,stop the porkies and start telling some truths.
Some alternatives to lying are: changing the subject, answering a different question than the one asked, ignoring the question, or answering the question with a question. lying to agree with someone's vanity or self-deception, or their mis-conception, is also wrong even if that is what they want to hear.
Gimme some truth

LadyJ · 29-09-2005 9:43pm

Great thing about lying is that if you tell the same lie enough then you start to believe it and therefore it's no longer a lie to you....... Like that time Johnny Depp's car broke down and it was poring rain. I heard a knock on the door (bell was broken) and when I opened it,there he was!

He kissed me roughly and threw me onto the couch. He tore off my clothes and his wet hair dripped onto my naked body. We made love through the night and then the AA came and off he went.

Pighead · 29-09-2005 9:45pm

Kernel wrote:

When I said I wasn't with your Girlfriend in Dundalk the other week... I admit.. I also told a lie... we checked into a hotel on a friday, and emerged from our room on Sunday.... I'm sorry man, it didn't mean anything. (well, not to me).

Kernel you're petty taunts shall be ignored by me in the future.These shall be my last utterances towards you
"Lies are like wishes," says Pighead."Behind almost every lie there is a wish that the lie was true.

Fusion251 · 30-09-2005 9:54am

Lies are fun...

Let's never tell the truth again....

Fusion (or is it? huh? huh???)
:cool:

Tar.Aldarion · 30-09-2005 2:32pm

LadyJ wrote:

I'm torn! Who's the liar?

I guess it's whoever has a blistery ass tomorrow!

i got a message like that too...whom is the fairest of them all pighead...you must choose...now!

Pighead · 30-09-2005 2:33pm

Fusion251 wrote:

Lies are fun...

Let's never tell the truth again....

Fusion (or is it? huh? huh???)
:cool:

Wrong fusion94210.Good lies require good liars and you my crapply monikored friend are not a good liar.You see fuse, memory is the key. Remembering past lies is critical to being a good liar. From personal experience women never forget what you've told them and never lie to your mother. Usually a good lie works only once and diminishes in effectiveness every time its told thereafter. A good liar must be prepared to take a punch and you my friend are fearful of the punches.C'mon buddy those lies your spouting arent fooling nobody.

Aisling(",) · 30-09-2005 3:49pm

Pighead wrote:

Ah come on Aisling buddy,you're better than that,stop the porkies and start telling some truths.
Some alternatives to lying are: changing the subject, answering a different question than the one asked, ignoring the question, or answering the question with a question. lying to agree with someone's vanity or self-deception, or their mis-conception, is also wrong even if that is what they want to hear.
Gimme some truth

My parents et tres strict.eg they have been making me come in before 8 even though im 14 and I know they will make me come in earlier as we go into winter so I say I'm in a friends etc.
I'm also not allowed have a boyfriend so whenever I'm with him i have to make loads of excuses.
I'm not a bad person or anything its just my parents are way toooo strict

jank · 30-09-2005 6:47pm

Ya **** **** **** **** ****
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

If i have to see another "Look at me im PIGHEAD" Thread i swear to **** ill hunt you down and break off all your fingers.

Go to the Thunderdome or Cuckoo's Nest. This is where thread like this belong!

Come on Mods! Dump this ****e!

Giblet · 30-09-2005 6:53pm

Just a warning that if any of you resort to abuse again, bans will be handed out.

Pighead · 30-09-2005 7:02pm

jank wrote:

Ya **** **** **** **** ****
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

If i have to see another "Look at me im PIGHEAD" Thread i swear to **** ill hunt you down and break off all your fingers.

Go to the Thunderdome or Cuckoo's Nest. This is where thread like this belong!

Come on Mods! Dump this ****e!

Your language is apalling young man.Your attitude leaves a lot to be desired as well.May I suggest a visit to the "Learn English with Pighead"thread
Apart from that have a cracking weekend and stay cool brother. :cool:

pickarooney · 30-09-2005 7:16pm

Ah jank, the day you say someting interesting should be the day pighead retires, but I fear our porcine pal will be ploughing a long furrow at that rate.

jank · 30-09-2005 8:03pm

Interesting eh?

Maybe we dont share the same interests and hobbies, but I say interesting things all the time but as the old saying goes. "If a tree falls in an empty forest does it make a sound?"

scuba steve · 01-10-2005 1:15pm

Same with me

Cianos · 01-10-2005 1:23pm

Pighead,
I have to admit, sometimes I catch myself telling little fibs, and I disapoint myself. Although using fibs is so much more conveniant! but I shouldnt at all, should I? I'd never warp the truth to the extent that young Pernel would...Im not that insecure

. But yeah, little fibs the odd time...only when Im put on the spot and usually over little things that arent very significant, but still, I dont like it all the same.

Help me be a better man!

Ozzy · 01-10-2005 5:22pm

His brother never said that... you're telling pork pies Piggy, PORK PIES! :eek:

Kintarō Hattori · 02-10-2005 12:44am

OK I demand to know what the truth is with Pighead. Is he 'manned' by the likes of devore and regi etc to maintain interest in boards? Is he their pet project? A seemingly genius poster who we are supposed to think is a real person, but is in fact several, designed to keep us interested, amused and talking.
Without a doubt, Pighead is the best thing about boards. Tell us the truth, what's the conspiracy with Pighead? He's too much of an enigma to be just one person!

Gazza22 · 02-10-2005 12:51am

Keep loading on the appreciation and he's going to turn into another bubbles which would be quite annoying. Take it easy, there is no hype....your just a normal boardster aren't you pighead?

Third person talk is pretty crap tbh though over all, pighead you can be annoying but your ok!

nobodythere · 02-10-2005 9:02am

No, my granny is the biggest liar I know

.Liar Liar,Your pants are on Fire

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