Buying fags for knackers

Hub · 23-09-2005 3:10pm #1

I had to buy these fags, johnny blue obviously, for these little knackers today. They were about 16 and in school uniform.

The woman behind the counter, who is a cow, said that they better not be for them. She said theres cameras "so for your own sake..."

Now I would have liked to tell these little tools where to go but I didnt want hassle...

...so what did the woman mean by "so for your own sake..." Could they actually "throw the book at me" for this

Kiera · 23-09-2005 3:13pm

I don’t see how you “had” to buy them smokes?

bounty · 23-09-2005 3:13pm

yea, gardai are very interested in cctv footage like that

i think your screwed

Hub · 23-09-2005 3:17pm

Kiera wrote:

I don’t see how you “had” to buy them smokes?

The alternative was to be broken up

Kiera · 23-09-2005 3:18pm

How old are you?

Thrasher · 23-09-2005 3:19pm

Knackers in school uniform? Are you sure they allow that sort of thing?

Sounds more like an undercover Gardaí operation to me. You've been set up.

(Anyone old enough to 21 Jump Street? Scary stuff...)

Vokes · 23-09-2005 3:22pm

Hub wrote:

I had to buy these fags, johnny blue obviously, for these little knackers today. They were about 16 and in school uniform.

So, basically, they bullied you into doing it.

Nice :rolleyes:

nesf · 23-09-2005 3:23pm

I'd learn to say no tbh.

Chavster · 23-09-2005 3:25pm

Well it is illegal to buy tobacco products if you intend to give them to a minor but tbh i doubt anything will be done about it.

Next time though, say no. It ain't that hard

Shrimp · 23-09-2005 3:26pm

take the money of them, go into the shop, keep the fiver, then walk out and say, the woman took the money of me, she said it was counterfeit...

Endurance Man · 23-09-2005 3:32pm

You got bullied by a bunch of school boys

.

Kiera · 23-09-2005 3:36pm

Chavster wrote:

Next time though, say no. It ain't that hard

Exactly. Grow some balls!!

Hub · 23-09-2005 3:48pm

Ha ha. What do you want me to do. Stand and have a fight with some dogy kids. Not worth the hassle. Im not into violence. Can I just say this was in a VERY rough area they're style would be to brick you or something?

For the people saying Im a wuss, whatever, Im a big chicken

What I want to know could they actually fine me for this if they wanted to. If anyone was going to "hand me in" it would be the one behind the counter.

Come on law people...

Kiera · 23-09-2005 3:51pm

It’s the same as buying drink for under age people so you figure it out!

Hub · 23-09-2005 3:54pm

Ooooook, anyone know what my best defence would be?

Law people...

electric69 · 23-09-2005 3:56pm

God there are some stupid people in this country.Of course you can get charged and fined...i also doubt very much that you have been "set up" as im sure the Gardai have better things to be doing.

Dfitzer · 23-09-2005 3:57pm

Your best bet, and I am no expert in this area, is to head for Spain - I hear that is where all the major players in the Irish crime underworld hang out. Leave the country via Northern Ireland as it is very likely that the Gardai are watching the ports and airports. When you finally make enough cash through your evil empire you should consider some form of plastic surgery to change your identity.

If only we had an understaffed and overworked Police force in this country then your crime might be overlooked , but then again if me aunty had balls she would be my uncle.

Hub · 23-09-2005 4:00pm

ROFL

Thats one of the funniest things Ive seen all day

Chavster · 23-09-2005 4:01pm

Really, next time just say no and walk straight past, not even eye contact. You may surprise yourself.

Alternatively answer them with a completely unrelated statement eg/

youth - 'buy me some fags'
you - 'its is quite cold today'
youth - 'what?'
you - 'i said that the ceiling would look nice painted orange'

Passing yourself of as a lunatic is surprisingly easy and noone messes with lunatics

deisedevil · 23-09-2005 4:05pm

Hub wrote:

Ooooook, anyone know what my best defence would be?

Law people...

A Hurley maybe? For gods sake jsut keep walking next time,a few little sh**s aren't a big threat. Show them you got cohones!

deisedevil · 23-09-2005 4:07pm

electric69 wrote:

God there are some stupid people in this country.Of course you can get charged and fined...i also doubt very much that you have been "set up" as im sure the Gardai have better things to be doing.

Electric, ya need to purchase a sarcasm detector,lol.

Hub · 23-09-2005 4:07pm

Its on camera though.

I usually do say no but the dogyness of the area scared me tbh.
I really would be the first one to tell some snotty nosed kid where to go if they wanted drink or fags but there were threathening to me, so what can you do

Pigman II · 23-09-2005 4:09pm

Superman faces problems like this everyday but you don't see him ****ting his pants and bowing to evil!

Next time I suggest you bring along this poster and give it to your tormentors. They'll learn the error of their ways!

Kiera · 23-09-2005 4:10pm

Hub wrote:

Its on camera though.

I usually do say no but the dogyness of the area scared me tbh.
I really would be the first one to tell some snotty nosed kid where to go if they wanted drink or fags but there were threathening to me, so what can you do

Why worry about something that hasnt happened? Just forget about it.

electric69 · 23-09-2005 4:10pm

deisedevil wrote:

Electric, ya need to purchase a sarcasm detector,lol.

Got one...batteriers ran out a few mins ago....working fine now...

Hub · 23-09-2005 4:12pm

Cool.

I can just get really paranoid about somethings

Dfitzer · 23-09-2005 4:14pm

Hub are you still here ? get going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tar.Aldarion · 23-09-2005 4:15pm

Pigman II wrote:

Superman faces problems like this everyday

i think i missed the superman Vs. knacker episode,how did it play out?

Ann Elk · 23-09-2005 4:16pm

Hub wrote:

Ooooook, anyone know what my best defence would be?

Law people...

From a legal perspective, you could argue duress.

From a realistic perspective - you could plump for the "I'm a muppet" defence - i think you have a strong case.

tonyj · 23-09-2005 4:22pm

Hub wrote:

Its on camera though.

Exactly. And if you'd said 'No', and they had touched you, then THAT would also be on camera.

Pigman II · 23-09-2005 4:25pm

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

i think i missed the superman Vs. knacker episode,how did it play out?

Oh the usual. Knacker hassling people. Enter Superman. Knacker produces krypton from under burberry cap. Superman weakened. Superman goes in and buys cigarettes for knacker. Superman flees to his fortress of solitude. Superman regains his strength returns to shop in his lead-lined space suit. Superman kicks knackers ass and confiscates the cigarettes. Knacker apologies and promises to never smoke or intimidate public again.

breadmonkey · 23-09-2005 4:28pm

I hope this turns into an "I hate knackers" thread. I love them

EDIT: That is to say, I love the threads, not the knackers, oh no......

Thrasher · 23-09-2005 4:42pm

Hub, word on the street is that you will also consider errands for harder drugs?

I'm dying for fix - maybe for €80 you could sort me out with some, ehm, "brown sugar"...?

Hub · 23-09-2005 4:43pm

*boarding plane to alicante*

scuba steve · 23-09-2005 4:49pm

I heard on the news the Gardai are after a guy (didnt say where in the country) because he bought fags for some knackers. 100,000euro reward if hes found dead, nothing if hes found alive. You better get on that plane pretty quick youre really screwed

Hub · 23-09-2005 4:50pm

From now on Im justy going to ignore the bastards

scuba steve · 23-09-2005 4:53pm

Youre going to be in ****, leave the country right away. Soon youll be the most wanted man in the world and BIn Laden will be looking for you

KTRIC · 23-09-2005 5:01pm

When some little scummer asks me to buy him drink or fags I usually just say "sorry mate, I don't speak english" in a hard Dublin accent and watch the confusion on their faces. Work's a threat.

Tar.Aldarion · 23-09-2005 5:05pm

don't you mean quote: 'i don't speak retard'
ah,that's a funny memory....

Right_Side · 23-09-2005 5:32pm

Or... "Sorry I don't speak skobie!"

Vokes · 23-09-2005 5:35pm

Hub wrote:

I usually do say no but the dogyness of the area scared me tbh.
I really would be the first one to tell some snotty nosed kid where to go if they wanted drink or fags but there were threathening to me, so what can you do

Btw, what did they actually say to you? Did they use threatening language?

Endurance Man · 23-09-2005 5:41pm

Iv said no to at least 8 groups of guys this year, im not big by any stretch of the imagination :rolleyes: . The worst they will do is slag you off as you walk away, they are not gonna start a beat down on you in the middle of the street m8 :cool: .

Vokes · 23-09-2005 5:56pm

Endurance Man wrote:

Iv said no to at least 8 groups of guys this year, im not big by any stretch of the imagination . The worst they will do is slag you off as you walk away, they are not gonna start a beat down on you in the middle of the street m8

But, the OP did say he was from a "VERY rough area". He may be dealing with a more agressive strain of skanger that dish out more than just slags.

Sarsfield · 23-09-2005 6:20pm

They can't have been that hard if they were afraid to go into the shop and demand smokes from the woman behind the counter.

I'd have called them sissys. And then run away fast!

Hub · 23-09-2005 6:24pm

Im not actually from the area. Just walkin past

They said something along the lines of "get me fags" when I ignored them they said "Ill break you up"

Reflecting on it I should have said she wouldnt serve me when I went in and hand their money back

junkyard · 23-09-2005 7:01pm

If you get caught, just plead that the cigarettes were yours and the scumbags mugged you for them!

Hub · 23-09-2005 7:04pm

Tought of that!!!

Haw

azezil · 23-09-2005 7:11pm

Hub, you're a feckin pussy

I've never lifted my hand in anger against anyone, not because i'm a 'moral' person, I just know I coudn't beat the **** out of a 12 yr old, still any time, and there've been plenty, a skanger kid asks me to buy smokes / drinks, I just roll my eyes and walk on. Never had a thing done to me, occassionaly some verbal abuse, but I'm a big boy I can take it.

As others have said, grow some balls ffs, there's no excuse for doing what you done.

stagolee · 23-09-2005 7:26pm

azezil wrote:

there's no excuse for doing what you done.

Thats a bit extreme surely, I would have thought that not being in a mood for a confrontation (verbal or otherwise) would be an excuse for what he has done. After all its not hub's business to protect these little scumbgs good health, their threatening him with violence in the street would indicate that they have little respect for his.

Hub · 23-09-2005 7:27pm

So have I done it loads of times myself but there was **** all around on the outskirts of the city. These were 16 year old knackers, fairly big, the likes of whom have hobbies which include bottleing people and stabbing. I dont care if you fu*kin hulk hogan, you dont want to upset them especially in the part of town I was in.

I WILL NEVER do it again. First and last time. Exception to the rule and all that

lazylad · 23-09-2005 8:37pm

Hub wrote:

So have I done it loads of times myself but there was **** all around on the outskirts of the city. These were 16 year old knackers, fairly big, the likes of whom have hobbies which include bottleing people and stabbing. I dont care if you fu*kin hulk hogan, you dont want to upset them especially in the part of town I was in.

I WILL NEVER do it again. First and last time. Exception to the rule and all that

Just avoid parts of town like that then. You dont like their kind obviously. Its not just the fact that they were 16 and wantin fags, it was you disciminating against them too which added to your anger.

Buying fags for knackers

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