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Funeral For a Friend

  • 19-09-2005 8:25pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 21


    Funeral For A friend Anyone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭weeder


    Hell Yes!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    This should be an interesting ban fest. Surprise me.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Giblet wrote:
    This should be an interesting ban fest. Surprise me.


    I think this is borderline provoked. And the same with the Chemical romance thread. I can guarantee that they would not have been started if you didn't give the "all clear".

    Yeah guy's, go nuts. What else have you stay instead of does anyone like them? Can you give me some background information regarding the band? what are the band member's names? What guitar does the guitarist use?

    Mark


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    I think this is borderline provoked. And the same with the Chemical romance thread. I can guarantee that they would not have been started if you didn't give the "all clear".

    Someone posted a thread in a correct forum about a band they like, sorry If I've missed it, what exactly is wrong?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Waltons


    I enjoy the Dream Theater song ¬_¬


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  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Giblet wrote:
    Someone posted a thread in a correct forum about a band they like, sorry If I've missed it, what exactly is wrong?

    To be honest Giblet I think you're missing alot. I'd love to have an indepth conversation with you but this is off topic and will result in moderation.

    *end of opinion*

    Enjoy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    What exactly do you want with this forum. Even more slicing up into sub forums? It'd be very easy to group this into Rock/Metal so don't begrudge anyone who posts about bands who have some lead in to punk.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Giblet wrote:
    What exactly do you want with this forum. Even more slicing up into sub forums? It'd be very easy to group this into Rock/Metal so don't begrudge anyone who posts about bands who have some lead in to punk.

    If you could pull a few strings and get us a members only forum that would be fantastic. I see soccer and some other's have them. Opinions between EMO and what is known as real PUNK are so far apart that this forum is a recipe for negative replies.

    Do you agree?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    If you could pull a few strings and get us a members only forum that would be fantastic. I see soccer and some other's have them. Opinions between EMO and what is known as real PUNK are so far apart that this forum is a recipe for negative replies.

    Do you agree?

    I've tried long and hard not to jump in and have my say in the Emo argument... but you're suggestion is ridiculous.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    qz wrote:
    I've tried long and hard not to jump in and have my say in the Emo argument... but you're suggestion is ridiculous.

    Ridiculous as in that it would never be given or that opinions don't differ? Because if you think the latter is true well then it's best you keep out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,753 ✭✭✭qz


    Ridiculous as in that it would never be given or that opinions don't differ? Because if you think the latter is true well then it's best you keep out.

    Ridiculous as in; no way will there be a sub-forum for emo.
    And I'm not stupid, I'm well aware that many opinions differ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    How about creating a thread about "real punk"? It'd work just the same. You know you don't have to look at every thread. And please don't be telling people to not post here. ANYWAY! Back on topic.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    qz wrote:
    Ridiculous as in; no way will there be a sub-forum for emo.
    And I'm not stupid, I'm well aware that many opinions differ.

    I don't find it ridiculous at all. I mean it is a recipe for negative replies putting them all in the one forum. I'm not going to abuse them but i'll express my views and comments on threads of interest as this is one of the very few forums on boards that does interest me.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Giblet wrote:
    How about creating a thread about "real punk"? It'd work just the same. You know you don't have to look at every thread. And please don't be telling people to not post here. ANYWAY! Back on topic.

    Ok, I take that's the final word. I'll respect that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭honru


    Christ, Emo Kid, make more of an effort to make your threads/posts more interesting. Where's your input on anything?

    Funeral for a Friend... meh...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭ANarcho-Munk


    I don't like emo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭andrew163


    I wouldn't consider Funeral for a Friend to be punk. Emo definitely, but not punk. "Punk" makes me think of a really bad song called Goths that a few people I know wrote a few years ago. That song was baaaad. :eek: Four powerchords over and over and over again. But anyway, Funeral for a Friend are...well they sound different to most other bands that I know. I can't think of anyone that has the same qualities - I'm a fan of virtually every single one of their songs (bar one or two on Hours that aren't too appealing). They're alot heavier then most band I know that would call themselves "emo". Even know of a few die-hard dreadlocked destroy-all-emo-kids korn-worshippers who like FFAF.

    That and that Ibanez is purdy....

    That was my attempt to make a decent post in this thread. Yep, I've failed miserably. *runs away screaming*


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    andrew163 wrote:
    I wouldn't consider Funeral for a Friend to be punk. Emo definitely, but not punk. "Punk" makes me think of a really bad song called Goths that a few people I know wrote a few years ago. That song was baaaad. :eek: Four powerchords over and over and over again. But anyway, Funeral for a Friend are...well they sound different to most other bands that I know. I can't think of anyone that has the same qualities - I'm a fan of virtually every single one of their songs (bar one or two on Hours that aren't too appealing). They're alot heavier then most band I know that would call themselves "emo". Even know of a few die-hard dreadlocked destroy-all-emo-kids korn-worshippers who like FFAF.

    That and that Ibanez is purdy....

    That was my attempt to make a decent post in this thread. Yep, I've failed miserably. *runs away screaming*


    The guitarist must have been bad. I know some kick ass 4 powerchord progressions, its all in the strumming. Sorry to hear about your bad exposure to punk music


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭andrew163


    Oh don't get me wrong.... I know plenty of good punk songs... just the word itself reminds me of that one song.. :o


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    andrew163 wrote:
    Oh don't get me wrong.... I know plenty of good punk songs... just the word itself reminds me of that one song.. :o

    Good to hear. Was hoping that wasnt the only exposure you've had :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Waltons wrote:
    I enjoy the Dream Theater song ¬_¬

    Me too.
    Opinions between EMO and what is known as real PUNK are so far apart that this forum is a recipe for negative replies.

    That's donkeys, and you know it. Want an example? Here is a thread on the Rock/Metal board about Bob Dylan, David Bowie and Pink Floyd, and here is a thread about the new Cryptopsy album, on the very same board. This is a thread about Atheist, this is a thread about A Perfect Circle and Tool, and this is a thread about Queen and Led Zeppelin. Again, these are all on the Rock/Metal board.

    Now here we have a board that encompasses everything from Dylan to Crytopsy in it's discussion, and the two are so far apart stylistically, yet is this board a "Recipe for negative replies" as you put it? No, it's perfectly civil altogether. Why is that I wonder? Is it because those who post on the Rock/Metal board aren't being antagonists who run around slinging insults like a bunch of kids? Perhaps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 fukwit


    How about a forum with NO MODERATION WHATSOEVER. THEN WE COULD SORT ALL THIS ****E OUT BY OURSELVES, WITHOUT THE INTERFERENCE OF BULLYING ASSWIPES LIKE GIBLETFACE????

    Oh yeah, and funeral for a friend are crap.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Me too.



    That's donkeys, and you know it. Want an example? Here is a thread on the Rock/Metal board about Bob Dylan, David Bowie and Pink Floyd, and here is a thread about the new Cryptopsy album, on the very same board. This is a thread about Atheist, this is a thread about A Perfect Circle and Tool, and this is a thread about Queen and Led Zeppelin. Again, these are all on the Rock/Metal board.

    Now here we have a board that encompasses everything from Dylan to Crytopsy in it's discussion, and the two are so far apart stylistically, yet is this board a "Recipe for negative replies" as you put it? No, it's perfectly civil altogether. Why is that I wonder? Is it because those who post on the Rock/Metal board aren't being antagonists who run around slinging insults like a bunch of kids? Perhaps.


    *clap* *clap* To the overwhelmingly kind community of rock/metal.

    I think alot of PUNK music deals with social issues and general political issues a HELL of alot more than anyone you stated above. So far I can tell, the people that mainly view these boards are into poltitakill and other progressive punk music not EMO. I don't think it's being childish at all. You can keep your mullets and whatever styles you want in Rock/Metal, at least you don't have a genre bringing down the image although the darkness did no justice for rock/metal but hey it's totally in the same category so enjoy.

    Welcome MTV generations if you like. I'm not into that though and I know alot of people support what I say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    fukwit wrote:
    How about a forum with NO MODERATION WHATSOEVER. THEN WE COULD SORT ALL THIS ****E OUT BY OURSELVES, WITHOUT THE INTERFERENCE OF BULLYING ASSWIPES LIKE GIBLETFACE????

    Yes, because forums with no moderation whatsoever never descend into total idiocy, do they? :rolleyes:


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Yes, because forums with no moderation whatsoever never descend into total idiocy, do they? :rolleyes:

    I don't ever recall someone giving it a chance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 fukwit


    Me too.



    That's donkeys, and you know it. Want an example? Here is a thread on the Rock/Metal board about Bob Dylan, David Bowie and Pink Floyd, and here is a thread about the new Cryptopsy album, on the very same board. This is a thread about Atheist, this is a thread about A Perfect Circle and Tool, and this is a thread about Queen and Led Zeppelin. Again, these are all on the Rock/Metal board.

    Now here we have a board that encompasses everything from Dylan to Crytopsy in it's discussion, and the two are so far apart stylistically, yet is this board a "Recipe for negative replies" as you put it? No, it's perfectly civil altogether. Why is that I wonder? Is it because those who post on the Rock/Metal board aren't being antagonists who run around slinging insults like a bunch of kids? Perhaps.
    No it's cos they're a bunch of long-haired hippy types and knowitall college types and I'm-an-authority-on-anything-musical-types who are happy to talk ****e about any band that they think it might be cool to ****e on about. And i haven't even been on that forum...
    Punk is not metal or rock. Punk is punk. Not emo. It's PUNK!


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    fukwit wrote:
    No it's cos they're a bunch of long-haired hippy types and knowitall college types and I'm-an-authority-on-anything-musical-types who are happy to talk ****e about any band that they think it might be cool to ****e on about. And i haven't even been on that forum...
    Punk is not metal or rock. Punk is punk. Not emo. It's PUNK!

    I agree alot of it can be that too. Look at me attend rock school, I don't care about anything else other than learning stairway to heaven and that ten minute solo.

    Punk is punk, Karl. I don't think you're even educated on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 fukwit


    Cos we're all too ****ing inept to be able to think for ourselves, we need someone else to tell us what we can and cannot say??? Why are you a moderator?


    I see on another thread you said "this aggression will not stand" in response to a poster. That was not aggression, foo...
    You're just a pussy, unable to defend himself. But it's not your fault, our society's gone mad. We place trust in people in places of authority to govern the awkward and troublesome issues in life, and then complain when it doesn't work out to some other authority. It's time to take back control of your life and start standing up for what you believe in, and taking accountability for your own actions.

    And another thing, excluding people from a community will NOT solve its problems.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    fukwit wrote:
    Cos we're all too ****ing inept to be able to think for ourselves, we need someone else to tell us what we can and cannot say??? Why are you a moderator?


    I see on another thread you said "this aggression will not stand" in response to a poster. That was not aggression, foo...
    You're just a pussy, unable to defend himself. But it's not your fault, our society's gone mad. We place trust in people in places of authority to govern the awkward and troublesome issues in life, and then complain when it doesn't work out to some other authority. It's time to take back control of your life and start standing up for what you believe in, and taking accountability for your own actions.

    And another thing, excluding people from a community will NOT solve its problems.

    I agree. 100%. I actually laughed when he said that.....I am of HIGHER STATUS.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    *clap* *clap* To the overwhelmingly kind community of rock/metal.

    I think alot of PUNK music deals with social issues and general political issues a HELL of alot more than anyone you stated above. So far I can tell, the people that mainly view these boards are into poltitakill and other progressive punk music not EMO. I don't think it's being childish at all. You can keep your mullets and whatever styles you want in Rock/Metal, at least you don't have a genre bringing down the image although the darkness did no justice for rock/metal but hey it's totally in the same category so enjoy.

    Welcome MTV generations if you like. I'm not into that though and I know alot of people support what I say.

    Are you saying that no Rock or Metal lyrics have ever adressed any social or political issues?

    Arguably, some At The Gates Lyrics would dissagree. See here. Or perhaps some Carcass Lyrics? The lyrics of the latest Nevermore album aren't exactly meaningless either.

    Just two examples off the top of my head there. As much as you'd like to think that Punk is somehow has more important lyrics, I don't think that's true, and that certainly doesn't excuse the kind of behaveour that's prevailant on this board either. Don't get too self-important, and act like it doesn't matter to people of other genres either, nor should you belittle anything else with comments like "You can keep your mullets" because that's just petty.

    Indeed though, you're right on the money with The Darkness, but there's also a hell of a lot of ridiculous pop bands parading around dressed up as Rock at the moment. The White Stripes for example? Or The Killers? Besides, just because a bands lyrics are so-called political, doesn't mean there's anything behind it. Take a look at Rage Against The Machine and System Of A Down, both signed to the same record label as Jennifer Lopez, George Michael, and Shakira. Yes, corporate America will gladly take your anti-capitalist dollars!

    There's just as much scope for that kind of disagreement on the rock/metal board as there is here, so there's no reason for the kind of ridiculous antagonism that goes on here. Of course I'm not saying that you shouldn't express your opinions about why Emo isn't related to punk, just do it in a civil manner.

    This is a discussion board after all, and I'd hardly call this "Discussion" at all:
    scuzzy wrote:
    Emo ****e.
    Which was posted over on the Emo thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    fukwit wrote:
    I see on another thread you said "this aggression will not stand" in response to a poster. That was not aggression, foo...

    Now you see, that was a quote from The Big Lebowski. Not to be taken literally, you see. Or rather you don't see.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Are you saying that no Rock or Metal lyrics have ever adressed any social or political issues?

    Arguably, some At The Gates Lyrics would dissagree. See here. Or perhaps some Carcass Lyrics? The lyrics of the latest Nevermore album aren't exactly meaningless either.

    Just two examples off the top of my head there. As much as you'd like to think that Punk is somehow has more important lyrics, I don't think that's true, and that certainly doesn't excuse the kind of behaveour that's prevailant on this board either. Don't get too self-important, and act like it doesn't matter to people of other genres either, nor should you belittle anything else with comments like "You can keep your mullets" because that's just petty.

    Indeed though, you're right on the money with The Darkness, but there's also a hell of a lot of ridiculous pop bands parading around dressed up as Rock at the moment. The White Stripes for example? Or The Killers? Besides, just because a bands lyrics are so-called political, doesn't mean there's anything behind it. Take a look at Rage Against The Machine and System Of A Down, both signed to the same record label as Jennifer Lopez, George Michael, and Shakira. Yes, corporate America will gladly take your anti-capitalist dollars!

    There's just as much scope for that kind of disagreement on the rock/metal board as there is here, so there's no reason for the kind of ridiculous antagonism that goes on here. Of course I'm not saying that you shouldn't express your opinions about why Emo isn't related to punk, just do it in a civil manner.

    This is a discussion board after all, and I'd hardly call this "Discussion" at all:

    Which was posted over on the Emo thread.

    Oh i'm not saying Rock/Metal hasn't had any political lyrics at all. Go have a listen to Propagandhi and compare that to any band off the top of your head. PUNK is more than a music genre. It's a movement, its more active in society. It does a hell of alot more good and exposes alot more of the flaws that we as normal citizens don't realise. You are being raped everyday by something or something else. I don't see any other genre of music exposing and standing up for these beliefs. It's all money, money and money with the others.
    I have been civil with my opinions on this board. PUNK is a totally different situation altogether and I don't think EMO should have a place here or POP-PUNK. Infact I nearly think PUNK should be removed from music and put into social.
    Scuzzy is a good personal friend of mine and maybe his anger got the better of him but he's removed from the forum now not that he would really care. You're allowing Corporate America take your money by supporting bands on those labels and buying all of these albums that make the rich richer.

    As I said, go get some Propagandhi. I'd like for you to recommend me an important band that take a view on the state of our "society" from Rock/Metal. I'll approach anything with an open mind..


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Now you see, that was a quote from The Big Lebowski. Not to be taken literally, you see. Or rather you don't see.

    Well it wasn't obvious. And to be honest if he hadn't of pointed that out you wouldn't have whispered a word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,585 ✭✭✭honru


    Indeed though, you're right on the money with The Darkness, but there's also a hell of a lot of ridiculous pop bands parading around dressed up as Rock at the moment. The White Stripes for example? Or The Killers?

    Dressed up as rock? That doesn't make much sense. Unless you're lumping the likes of The White Stripes with Busted etc. then you may be making a very vague statement there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Hey, let me know how your new punk forum goes, because you sure as hell do not own this one. It seems to me you're like babies throwing rattles out of their cribs. Punk babies.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Giblet wrote:
    Hey, let me know how your new punk forum goes, because you sure as hell do not own this one. It seems to me you're like babies throwing rattles out of their cribs. Punk babies.

    Punk babies. That would be cute. Our green hair and size 2 boots.


    Thats the sound of freedom. FREE TO SAY NO MORE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭garthv


    Aww what a funny thread....
    So much anger....
    I blame the EMO
    Damn EMO kids, get some taste


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,998 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Punk babies. That would be cute. Our green hair and size 2 boots.


    Thats the sound of freedom. FREE TO SAY NO MORE.

    I'm sorry, you belong to boards.ie :cool:


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Giblet wrote:
    I'm sorry, you belong to boards.ie :cool:

    I belong to noone but myself. I'm my own flower. I use free internet and choose to direct my free internet traffic towards boards.ie. I think you're trying to get across this is a privelage not a right sort of thing.
    Yes I don't pay boards.ie bills but don't give us(the boards.ie community) a PUNK forum if it's going to be false and not true to it's name.

    That exactly how I see it. False and not true to it's name and thats fact my son.

    Ps - your last two comments have been very non-constructive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    PUNK is more than a music genre. It's a movement, its more active in society. It does a hell of alot more good and exposes alot more of the flaws that we as normal citizens don't realise. You are being raped everyday by something or something else. I don't see any other genre of music exposing and standing up for these beliefs. It's all money, money and money with the others.

    Dude, you should spend some time in the real world. Music is not a way of life, no matter what genre (categorisation, yeah? Is categorisation not conformity? Conformity is bad, yeah?). Get out of your white middle-class comfort zone and really open your eyes to what's going on in the world, not just sporadically attend some poxy parade down Dame Street and read some ridiculoulsy biased flyers. All your punk heroes need money to survive just like the guys from Funeral For A Friend and the Thrills. That is the reality of planet Earth and no amount of safety pins is going to change that. They sell product just like Microsoft and any other corporate entity you care to mention. Shift units, just like Blink 182. The plastic case on your Prohaghandi cd is just as toxic and made from the same oil as the one which sheathed the Simply Red cd, maybe they even bought it from the same supplier. Do you think music matters to someone who hasn't got a ****ing thing to their name or food to eat? Do you really believe that music is anything other than another corporate teat for consumers to suckle on so they don't actually have to open their ****ing eyes and see what real life is like, so they don't have to actually do anything worthwhile with their lives other than procreate and keep the whole ****ing thing going? It's all bull****, don't get caught up in semantics. Music is not a way of life and never has been and never will be. Music is merely a distraction.

    Suffering is a way of life. Conformity is a way of life. Opression is a way of life. Starvation is a way of life. You should see what abject poverty looks like and you may reconsider the importance of your hairstyle or brand of footwear or petty little teenage squabbles about if one band is more genuinely punk than another (and the consequences thereof). If you're incredibly lucky, the worst thing that will ever happen to you after you move out of your parent's house is that you'll have to compromise your ambitions and aspirations and settle down into some repetitive soul**** of a job to keep yourself fed and housed so you can while away the time until you pass away. That is life and there is little you're going to do about it on an internet forum.

    [On Topic]Only heard them briefly... meh, not my cup of tea[/On Topic]


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  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Doctor J wrote:
    Dude, you should spend some time in the real world. Music is not a way of life, no matter what genre (categorisation, yeah? Is categorisation not conformity? Conformity is bad, yeah?). Get out of your white middle-class comfort zone and really open your eyes to what's going on in the world, not just sporadically attend some poxy parade down Dame Street and read some ridiculoulsy biased flyers. All your punk heroes need money to survive just like the guys from Funeral For A Friend and the Thrills. That is the reality of planet Earth and no amount of safety pins is going to change that. They sell product just like Microsoft and any other corporate entity you care to mention. Shift units, just like Blink 182. The plastic case on your Prohaghandi cd is just as toxic and made from the same oil as the one which sheathed the Simply Red cd, maybe they even bought it from the same supplier. Do you think music matters to someone who hasn't got a ****ing thing to their name or food to eat? Do you really believe that music is anything other than another corporate teat for consumers to suckle on so they don't actually have to open their ****ing eyes and see what real life is like, so they don't have to actually do anything worthwhile with their lives other than procreate and keep the whole ****ing thing going? It's all bull****, don't get caught up in semantics. Music is not a way of life and never has been and never will be. Music is merely a distraction.

    Suffering is a way of life. Conformity is a way of life. Opression is a way of life. Starvation is a way of life. You should see what abject poverty looks like and you may reconsider the importance of your hairstyle or brand of footwear or petty little teenage squabbles about if one band is more genuinely punk than another (and the consequences thereof). If you're incredibly lucky, the worst thing that will ever happen to you after you move out of your parent's house is that you'll have to compromise your ambitions and aspirations and settle down into some repetitive soul**** of a job to keep yourself fed and housed so you can while away the time until you pass away. That is life and there is little you're going to do about it on an internet forum.

    [On Topic]Only heard them briefly... meh, not my cup of tea[/On Topic]

    I must say, I was waiting for you to add a contribution. Something a bit more intelligent than the others can add and fair play. I have spent plenty of time in the real world. I have witnessed abject poverty in the middle of some mountains somewhere between Thailand and China, oh yeah I think the country is called Laos, my white middle-classed comfort zone thought me that. I did go out to Koh Phi Phi and help out with volunteer work after the destruction of the trsunami. What did you do that made you feel really good lately?. I've also witnessed alot of the other thing you've mentioned. I think your view on me is rather narrow minded doctor j. You think im an angsty teenager, that has a big fancy punk hair style and must have a certain brand of shoe because thats what the scene is all about. Here are some facts about me, I haven't got any hair. Im not a teenager and I wear whats comfortable.
    Walking down dame st. in a parade doesn't make me feel like I have a godly like status or anything else you may think but it's a hell of a lot better than sitting in my room learning Stairway to heaven or worrying about some girl that doesn't like me. The Irish punk scene is small and it's about the best thing that can be arranged now and again plus making trips abroad to help out with protests is better than that also.My current PUNK heroes live in a squat at 9th and C in New york city and the C squat is self sufficent as in they would grow alot of their own food and generally live for free as best possible. Of course they do need some money to survive and if you look up most of their gigs its not for a pension fund, most of it's contributed toward a charity or something progressive.
    Yeah it is a very depressing thought that my Propagandhi CD case may contain the same contents as these other people "artists" but HOW ELSE DO THESE GUYS GET A MESSAGE ACROSS IN THIS WORLD?. Society doesn't allow any other way so they have to do what they have to do.

    I am realistic also. I have a promising career ahead of me. I know living by my beliefs in our horrible society won't get me any furhter than the food stamp line. But don't try portray as something i'm not and how do you know I live at home? I'd love to know that. You're just jumping to conlcusions and sterotypes now. Infact I never expected to change life on an internet forum. I just find it retarded that the PUNK forum isn't actually a PUNK forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    We all jump to conclusions and stereotypes, you're not as different as you make out. Certainly I had leapt to the assumption you were a teenager when you were having a go at gigsmart a while back and, well, the FAS thing sealed the deal for me. When you post like a teenager, of course people are going to think you're one. Punk means different things to different people. TBH I don't think an internet discussion forum for Punk could ever live up to the hype so perhaps a bit of perspective is called for, maybe accept that people are different and individualism isn't just something only you can adhere to. Engage in discussion by all means but you'll have to accept that you alone cannot be right all the time, the same as everybody else. Age will teach you that ;)


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Doctor J wrote:
    We all jump to conclusions and stereotypes, you're not as different as you make out. Certainly I had leapt to the assumption you were a teenager when you were having a go at gigsmart a while back and, well, the FAS thing sealed the deal for me. When you post like a teenager, of course people are going to think you're one. Punk means different things to different people. TBH I don't think an internet discussion forum for Punk could ever live up to the hype so perhaps a bit of perspective is called for, maybe accept that people are different and individualism isn't just something only you can adhere to. Engage in discussion by all means but you'll have to accept that you alone cannot be right all the time, the same as everybody else. Age will teach you that ;)

    Emmm. Sorry if my memory has faded but can you show me when I had a go at GIGSMART and what FAS thing?. I thought my posts were quite civil and I noticed alot more teenage angst on the forum than ANYTHING I posted. I am still remaining civil. Stop playing off age difference Doctor J. I know you're alot older and have alot more "guitar" and probably "living on your own" experience than most posters on these music bords.
    Punk is punk man, it may vary slighty but EMO is not punk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    Maybe the forum title should be changed to punk/emo or something like that. It would help with the confusion.
    As for FFAF.. dunno don't listen to that kindof music. :confused:


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    NotMe wrote:
    Maybe the forum title should be changed to punk/emo or something like that. It would help with the confusion.
    As for FFAF.. dunno don't listen to that kindof music. :confused:

    Have you not been paying attention to the arguements? Punk and Emo are two different thing's altogether. Why not just give EMO a subforum.

    *on topic* I don't like Funeral for a friend *on topic*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭NotMe


    Yeah but that's unlikely to happen so if punk and emo have to share a forum then the name should be changed to reflect that.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    NotMe wrote:
    Yeah but that's unlikely to happen so if punk and emo have to share a forum then the name should be changed to reflect that.

    I got told off when I asked for PUNK/SKA collaboration. They are more related than PUNK/EMO. Subforum is the best option. The EMO head's are even requesting there own forum in the system/forums.


  • Site Banned Posts: 152 ✭✭Resurrection


    Doctor J wrote:
    We all jump to conclusions and stereotypes, you're not as different as you make out. Certainly I had leapt to the assumption you were a teenager when you were having a go at gigsmart a while back and, well, the FAS thing sealed the deal for me. When you post like a teenager, of course people are going to think you're one. Punk means different things to different people. TBH I don't think an internet discussion forum for Punk could ever live up to the hype so perhaps a bit of perspective is called for, maybe accept that people are different and individualism isn't just something only you can adhere to. Engage in discussion by all means but you'll have to accept that you alone cannot be right all the time, the same as everybody else. Age will teach you that ;)

    Doc J. If you could get back to me on the gig smart thing and fas thing that I did a while ago that would be great. I would use the search function but that seems to be disabled. I signed up three days ago and I really have no recollections of this and I'd like some closure because it's slander.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    *THUNDERDOME* *THUNDERDOME*

    And on-topic, I've seen FFAF in support slot before for Therapy? and they were shyte IMHO! Except for one thing. Bruce Dickinson was doing MC at the gig, and for the last track, they did a cover of Black Sabbath with Dickinson on vocals, and that was good.

    They're not bad musicians, its just that all their own material is pretty uninspiring.

    [/2c]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,848 ✭✭✭✭Doctor J


    Doc J. If you could get back to me on the gig smart thing and fas thing that I did a while ago that would be great. I would use the search function but that seems to be disabled. I signed up three days ago and I really have no recollections of this and I'd like some closure because it's slander.

    Sure, here you go. Don't know if it was the selective capitalisation of keywords and good grammar that triggered it or using Propaghandi as a username :)
    wingzero wrote:
    I don't think GIGSMART had much to do with helping Mike got spiked in anyway.
    Emmm. Sorry if my memory has faded but can you show me when I had a go at GIGSMART and what FAS thing?


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