crime of the century??

Barr

Was driving to work yesterday morning.Without getting into to much detail I was driving on the outer lane of a 2 lane road , both lanes going in the same direction (dont think its considered a dual carriageway as speed limie is 100kmp )
I was driving at the correct speed limit (just) ,not another car in sight around me , when all of a sudden a saw this squad car pull up behind me from nowhere, flashing its sirens .
I pulled over , garda took all my details , looked at licence and told me its an offence to drive on the outside lane as this should only be used for overtaking ?????
I never got a ticket or anything , garda just said to produce my insurance cert in the garda station of my choice.
As garda turned her back to go back into her sqad car I asked is there a fine or what happens next.She replies a prosectution will follow.
Has anyone else had similar experiences ? Can I be prosecuted without being issued with a ticket , or at least being told at the time what i am being prosecuted with

qz

Barr wrote:

Was driving to work yesterday morning.Without getting into to much detail I was driving on the outer lane of a 2 lane road , both lanes going in the same direction (dont think its considered a dual carriageway as speed limie is 100kmp )
I was driving at the correct speed limit (just) ,not another car in sight around me , when all of a sudden a saw this squad car pull up behind me from nowhere, flashing its sirens .
I pulled over , garda took all my details , looked at licence and told me its an offence to drive on the outside lane as this should only be used for overtaking ?????
I never got a ticket or anything , garda just said to produce my insurance cert in the garda station of my choice.
As garda turned her back to go back into her sqad car I asked is there a fine or what happens next. She replies a prosectution will follow.
Has anyone else had similar experiences ? Can I be prosecuted without being issued with a ticket , or at least being told at the time what i am being prosecuted with

:rolleyes:







Joke!

Dave!

When ya get to the Joy, tell Tomo Madzer says 'hi'!

Barr

DaveMcG wrote:

When ya get to the Joy, tell Tomo Madzer says 'hi'!

I'm sure i'll be sent to a more high security facility due to the serious nature of my crime

Guy:Incognito

You shouldnt have been in the outside lane. Theres plenty of threads about people doing exactly that.

Dave!

Barr wrote:

I'm sure i'll be sent to a more high security facility due to the serious nature of my crime

Indeed, they might send him to Spike Island if it ends up being rejuvinated!

John R

A lane hog gets done. That has just made what has been a horrific day for me a little bit more bearable.

Barr wrote:

Was driving to work yesterday morning.Without getting into to much detail I was driving on the outer lane of a 2 lane road , both lanes going in the same direction (dont think its considered a dual carriageway as speed limie is 100kmp )

DUAL carriageway. There is a hint there somewhere.

Barr wrote:

I was driving at the correct speed limit (just) ,not another car in sight around me , when all of a sudden a saw this squad car pull up behind me from nowhere, flashing its sirens .

All of a sudden? From nowhere? You must have been paying a gread deal of attention to your hairdo in the rearview mirror.

Barr wrote:

I pulled over , garda took all my details , looked at licence and told me its an offence to drive on the outside lane as this should only be used for overtaking ?????

Rules of the road; try reading them sometime, apparently they have something to do with driving.

Barr wrote:

Has anyone else had similar experiences ? Can I be prosecuted without being issued with a ticket , or at least being told at the time what i am being prosecuted with

Yes you can. Besides you WERE told.

ds20prefecture

Barr wrote:

Has anyone else had similar experiences ? Can I be prosecuted without being issued with a ticket , or at least being told at the time what i am being prosecuted with

So not only have you been stopped, cautioned, explained to what the offense was, told what would happen, but you are still confused about what you are doing wrong?

I was driving at the correct speed limit (just) ,not another car in sight around me

So why were you in the outside lane?

dahamsta

Any chance you could get the name of the Guard? She deserves a bloody medal!

adam

Our man in Havana

In the words of Nelson Muntz:

"HA HA!"

unkel

Barr wrote:

I was driving on the outer lane of a 2 lane road

That lane is not for driving, only for overtaking. Hope you've learnt your lesson

Barr

John R wrote:

A lane hog gets done. That has just made what has been a horrific day for me a little bit more bearable.

Would'nt really consider myself a lane hog, as if a car were to approach behind at a faster speed I would pull into the slower lane to let them pass.
Alltho this rarely happens as I drive a supra TT, and would be faster than most cars out there even if i were pulling a trailer of lead behind me

unkel

Barr wrote:

Would'nt really consider myself a lane hog, as if a car were to approach behind at a faster speed I would pull into the slower lane to let them pass

Well you didn't. That's why you were stopped by the Gardai. Will you please listen to us (and the Gardai)? Do not drive in the overtaking lane unless you are overtaking!

Barr wrote:

Alltho this rarely happens as I drive a supra TT

And you just admitted to driving at about the speed limit in the overtaking lane :rolleyes:

DubTony

Holy lane-hoggers Batman. Why didn't we read about this one in the newspaper?

Barr wrote:

I was driving on the outer lane of a 2 lane road, both lanes going in the same direction (dont think its considered a dual carriageway as speed limie is 100kmp )

I think a theory test is in order. Or at least a theory lesson

Barr wrote:

I pulled over , garda took all my details , looked at licence and told me its an offence to drive on the outside lane as this should only be used for overtaking ?????

Why the question marks. Are you confused about one of the rules of driving? Maybe you should get some lessons.

Barr wrote:

Can I be prosecuted without being issued with a ticket , or at least being told at the time what i am being prosecuted with

eh ... see above ... the bit where she "told me its an offence to drive on the outside lane as this should only be used for overtaking"

Barr wrote:

Would'nt really consider myself a lane hog, as if a car were to approach behind at a faster speed I would pull into the slower lane to let them pass. Alltho this rarely happens as I drive a supra TT, and would be faster than most cars out there even if i were pulling a trailer of lead behind me

Bet you pull straight back out again on the rare occasion that you're overtaken by someone who hasn't got a towbar on his sportscar.
Nice.

Let us all know when you're called into court so we can go and see if the Garda is cute, and give her a pat on the back and recommend her for a promotion.

Seriously guys. Does anyone actually believe this nonsense? This moron has to be winding us up.

DubTony

Hey Barr, is there any chance you could let us know why you were driving in the overtaking lane when there was nothing to overtake? I'd really love to get inside the head of someone who does this, just so I can see if all the wheels are turning.

I did it today on the N7 between Rathcoole and Newlands Cross for a couple of hundred metres and I felt like an idiot. The voice inside kept saying " Hey dopey, pull over, we drive on the left in this country".

Barr

my main point is the gardai should be investing their time and resources into more serious crime like joyriders , car theft , the majority of such is never solved
And if they pull you over , at least let you know what exactly are they charging you with i.e , undue care attention, wreckless driving, dangerous driving ,I know what i done wrong but thats it , why not issue a ticket??, lack of funds in the department of justice budget maybe, at least make the person aware of whats happening next without having to ask them ?
also how could one hog a lane as there was no one around to hog the lane from apart from the gaurdai who were obviously breakin da speed limit themselves to have caught up with me

Barr

DubTony wrote:

I did it today on the N7 between Rathcoole and Newlands Cross for a couple of hundred metres

Fair play !!! keep trying i'm sure you will manage to get to overtake someone , someday with a bit of practice

Dave!

Jesus, nothing but driving-elitists in here! :eek: Calm the hell down, folks, it's not like he was swerving in front of you -- there wasn't even anyone there to be hogging the lane from...

DubTony

Yeah.



OK.




Looks like he has a friend.

Barr

Well were not all as perfect as you duntony , I'll let you get back to your intensive study of the rules of the road book , I'm sure it gets more intersting every time you read it

DubTony

.... I'm going to bed.

Now, where's that book?

PlayaFlow

Barr wrote:

Would'nt really consider myself a lane hog, as if a car were to approach behind at a faster speed I would pull into the slower lane to let them pass.
Alltho this rarely happens as I drive a supra TT, and would be faster than most cars out there even if i were pulling a trailer of lead behind me

instead of pulling out of the way when somebody comes up behind you, WHY DONT YOU JUST STAY IN THE LEFT LANE and overtake when you have to?!!?! (as youre meant to do)!!!
Damn i hate those lane hogs . Look, if there was no cars on the left lane then what where you doing on the right lane???!. you should ahve been on the right lane.Palin and simple!!


as for the garda matter, they were just being arsey because of the car you drive, i doubt anything will be followed up on it.

unkel

DaveMcG wrote:

there wasn't even anyone there to be hogging the lane from...

Apart from the Garda car...

Please folks, don't go into defensive mode. There is just no reason whatsoever to hog the overtaking lane. P!ss or get off the pot. It obviously doesn't matter what car you drive. Make way for the emergency services and truely superior cars!!!

impr0v

Barr wrote:

my main point is the gardai should be investing their time and resources into more serious crime like joyriders , car theft , the majority of such is never solved

The universal cry of the minor offender, 'sure i'm only small fry, it'd be more in their line to be out catching those who are really doing something wrong'.

Barr wrote:

...there was no one around to hog the lane from apart from the gaurdai who were obviously breakin da speed limit themselves to have caught up with me

You are aware that garda cars are exempt from speed limits when they're on duty, right?

Balfa

Barr, I don't mean to offend or anything, i'm seriously just curious...
What is the reason you were in the overtaking lane?

And secondly, are you going to be more attentive to that rule of the road from now on?

Again, not meaning to cause any discontent, just trying to understand the bigger picture.

preilly79

question guys. on a three lane dual carriagway, like the n7 from newlands cross to rathcoole for example, are the two inside lanes considered driving lanes and the third outside lane the overtaking lane? or something else? dont think this has been clarified in the rules of the road.

tigerbalm

And what about three-lane roads with "Get in Lane" signs on them -- such as coming up to most of the M50 roundabouts ?

Are you "allowed" into the lanes then and effectively being undertaking/overtaking? I can't find anything about "Get in Lane" signs in the Rules of the Road?

DubTony

I think I'm going to get the bus from now on. There are too many basic driving questions being asked here.

preilly79 wrote:

question guys. on a three lane dual carriagway, like the n7 from newlands cross to rathcoole for example, are the two inside lanes considered driving lanes and the third outside lane the overtaking lane? or something else? dont think this has been clarified in the rules of the road.

I think it would be best to follow the British rule in this situation. The inside lane (lane 1) is for driving. The middle lane (lane 2) is for overtaking the vehicles in lane 1. This is also the outermost lanes trucks and buses are permitted to drive in. The outside lane (lane 3) is for overtaking the vehicles in lane 2 that are overtaking the vehicles in lane 1.

That's the law. It doesn't happen that way in practice in Ireland.

tigerbalm wrote:

And what about three-lane roads with "Get in Lane" signs on them -- such as coming up to most of the M50 roundabouts ?

Are you "allowed" into the lanes then and effectively being undertaking/overtaking? I can't find anything about "Get in Lane" signs in the Rules of the Road?

Where you are instructed to do other than above, the instructions on the signs take precedence over the general rule.

boardsee

I think I'm going to get the bus from now on. There are too many basic driving questions being asked here.

How do you find time to post on the net, inbetween shining your halo? Sure get your bus then. I bet your one of those muffty`s that drive around with the lights on during the daytime. And not the fog lights either :rolleyes:


Your allowed driving in the righthand lane if your going to be turning right a short distance ahead, or if taking a right/3rd exit or more on a roundabout that will be coming up.

He`s right, the guards would be better off catching scum than trivial crap like that. Its not like hes a real hogger anyway, he wasnt 1 of them sitting in it at 45mph.

mike65

Before this thread runs riot a word in your shell-like, keep it civil or keep out of here.

I think Barr and a few other should invest in a copy of the Rules of the Road (and read it). It might save your ass.

Mike.

ds20prefecture

Balfa wrote:

Barr, I don't mean to offend or anything, i'm seriously just curious...What is the reason you were in the overtaking lane?

PlayaFlow wrote:

WHY DONT YOU JUST STAY IN THE LEFT LANE and overtake when you have to?!!?! (as youre meant to do)!!!

ds20prefecture wrote:

So why were you in the outside lane?

DubTony wrote:

Hey Barr, is there any chance you could let us know why you were driving in the overtaking lane when there was nothing to overtake?

Still no answer.

sceptre

Barr wrote:

my main point is the gardai should be investing their time and resources into more serious crime like joyriders , car theft , the majority of such is never solved
And if they pull you over , at least let you know what exactly are they charging you with i.e , undue care attention, wreckless driving, dangerous driving ,I know what i done wrong but thats it , why not issue a ticket??, lack of funds in the department of justice budget maybe, at least make the person aware of whats happening next without having to ask them ?
also how could one hog a lane as there was no one around to hog the lane from apart from the gaurdai who were obviously breakin da speed limit themselves to have caught up with me

I read it but it didn't answer the only question people were really asking. Why were you in the outside lane then?

edit: Ah I see ds20prefecture has kindly provided a summary of all the questions people would love to see an answer to.

dahamsta

boardsee wrote:

I bet your one of those muffty`s that drive around with the lights on during the daytime. And not the fog lights either

I'm one of those “muffty`s”, whatever that is. I drive with my lights on during the day because there are just so many inattentive, stupid, ignorant, awful drivers on the road in Ireland. The kind that leaves their rear foglight on all the time; the kind that doesn't turn their lights on at dusk, or in fog; the kind that sits in the overtaking lane like a moron.

Overtake the car, and pull over. It doesn't matter how many cars are in front of you or behind you, what time of the day or night it is, or even if you're just too damned lazy to pull back in for the couple hundred yards between cars you're overtaking, you're wrong if you sit in the overtaking lane, period, full stop, end of story.

Stop arguing about it, you're just coming across as a selfish, arrogant asshole that shouldn't be allowed drive a car. You're wrong.

adam

Dave!

^
I think you're the only one coming across as selfish and arrogant. Stop being so dogmatic. It's ooonly a car. It's people like you that make it a chore for other people to learn. You're probably the person who holds his hand on the horn until a learner gets out of your way, aren't you?

BTW, nice to see you boasting about getting banned from forums... Nothing sad about it... You're an internet bad-ass...

ds20prefecture

DaveMcG wrote:

I think you're the only one coming across as selfish and arrogant.

No, I think he's right about boardsee.

preilly79

dahamsta wrote:

Stop arguing about it, you're just coming across as a selfish, arrogant asshole that shouldn't be allowed drive a car. You're wrong.

wow, i think you should start acting like the moderator your title suggests you to be. posts like that only serve to fuel the flames that you yourself are supposed to put out.

now lets get back to the point.

Barr

I did'nt want to go into too much detail with first post but here goes
The road I was travelling on is a link road no more than 1km in distance end to end with 2 lanes that conects the city centre to a major rounndabound which then breaks off into three lanes.
On the inside lane there are 2 slip roads which leads cars onto the link road so i usaully travel on the outside lane to avoid these so as to give them room to build up speed .
It was just past the first slip road when i was pulled over approaching the second slip road , I travel this rd every morning and stay on the outside lane past the slip roads but that particular morning there was no other car making its way on to the link rd thus no other traffic part from sqaud car.
But having said that i find myself on the outside lane most of the time on this particular road being held up by people who think if they are driving at the speed limit , often below the limit , they do not have to make way for cars travelling at higher speeds, so anybody who sees a past approaching supra with a veilside front spoiler please make your way into the slow lane. Well apart frome some exceptions i.e WRX's , 300ZX, 200SX, SKYLINES,FTO's, EVO's,BMW's > 2.0 etc , you know who you are !!!! :cool:
So I never usually need to be on the inside lane of this particular stretch of road as
1) I am usually overtaking whatevers in the left hand lane
2)the road has two slip roads which lead on to the link road , which if you were on the inside lane you would have to avoid these anyway
3)I take the last exit on the roundabout which would require me to get into outside lane anyway just a short distance up the road .

John R

DaveMcG wrote:

^
I think you're the only one coming across as selfish and arrogant. Stop being so dogmatic.

No. He's coming across as correct and annoyed. It is people like the original poster and you who are selfish and arrogant.

DaveMcG wrote:

It's ooonly a car.

And what harm can anyone do with a car afterall :rolleyes:

1.2 Million killed per year; 50 million injured and disabled

DaveMcG wrote:

It's people like you that make it a chore for other people to learn. You're probably the person who holds his hand on the horn until a learner gets out of your way, aren't you?

Actually no. It's people like you who believe the rules are just an optional extra that doesn't really apply to them that make learning difficult and dangerous.

PlayaFlow

Barr wrote:

I did'nt want to go into too much detail with first post but here goes
The road I was travelling on is a link road no more than 1km in distance end to end with 2 lanes that conects the city centre to a major rounndabound which then breaks off into three lanes.
On the inside lane there are 2 slip roads which leads cars onto the link road so i usaully travel on the outside lane to avoid these so as to give them room to build up speed .
It was just past the first slip road when i was pulled over approaching the second slip road , I travel this rd every morning and stay on the outside lane past the slip roads but that particular morning there was no other car making its way on to the link rd thus no other traffic part from sqaud car.
But having said that i find myself on the outside lane most of the time on this particular road being held up by people who think if they are driving at the speed limit , often below the limit , they do not have to make way for cars travelling at higher speeds, so anybody who sees a past approaching supra with a veilside front spoiler please make your way into the slow lane. Well apart frome some exceptions i.e WRX's , 300ZX, 200SX, SKYLINES,FTO's, EVO's,BMW's > 2.0 etc , you know who you are !!!! :cool:
So I never usually need to be on the inside lane of this particular stretch of road as
1) I am usually overtaking whatevers in the left hand lane
2)the road has two slip roads which lead on to the link road , which if you were on the inside lane you would have to avoid these anyway
3)I take the last exit on the roundabout which would require me to get into outside lane anyway just a short distance up the road .

Well barr , i'll agree with you on the whole satying in the fast lane when passing slip-roads in order to give the people joining the motorway some space. As most drivers in this country dont know when to speed up or slow down to allow other people join from the slip road. theres nothing worse than when joining a motorway and theres some D***head doing the exact same speed as you and exactly parralell to you who wont let you in. I could some times swear that their cars are being driven computerized robotic programmes rathern than by common sense, logic and initiative.

boardsee

ds20prefecture wrote:

No, I think he's right about boardsee.

Errrr what??? He wasnt referring to me?

BTW, nice to see you boasting about getting banned from forums... Nothing sad about it... You're an internet bad-ass...

And whos that aimed at?

mike65

That comment was aimed at Dahamsta (check his sig).

Mike.

Dave!

John R wrote:

No. He's coming across as correct and annoyed. It is people like the original poster and you who are selfish and arrogant.

Yeah, he's correct about the rule, but chastising someone for breaking the rule when it didn't affect anyone else is ridiculous. It's not like he was swigging from a bottle of vodka and playing slalom with pedestrians, he was only in the wrong lane -- and not even when there were other cars around. I can understand being annoyed if someone's in the overtaking lane when you're right behind them, but there was nobody there, and that guy made a big deal out of it. And it wasn't even because he was endangering lives or anything, but because he wasn't the perfect driver that dahamsta apparantly is(I would certainly hope so since he's chastising others like he is).

John R wrote:

And what harm can anyone do with a car afterall :rolleyes:

1.2 Million killed per year; 50 million injured and disabled

Like I said, he wasn't doing anything dangerous, since there was nobody around to be endangered -- and even if there was, they would see him a mile away and be merely "inconvenienced" by not being able to overtake him (or indeed, the OP would move into the appropriate lane and let them pass). Obviously rules like stop at a red light are somewhat important :rolleyes: But others are less-so (or at least in certain situations), and sticking dogmatically to the rules and chastising anyone who dares to step outside the box is just annoying.

John R wrote:

Actually no. It's people like you who believe the rules are just an optional extra that doesn't really apply to them that make learning difficult and dangerous.

Like I said, rules are important, but flaming someone for being in the wrong lane... on a dual-carraigeway... in virtual isolation... is annoying, and he's just doing it because he can; I'm sure dahamsta has gone "crazy" once or twice, and broken the odd rule, and he wouldn't think twice about doing it again. But someone else did it, so that's a different story.

I don't know why the OP was in the wrong lane... but it didn't affect anyone, and going on what information he's given us (could be all lies, I don't really know or care, I'm just dealing with the scenario), it appears the Garda was pulling him over for the sake of it, or to make a point or something.

I don't even give a sh*t about what he did (be in the wrong lane), I just don't get why everyone's going so harshly on him... seems fairly childish to me.

dahamsta

DaveMcG wrote:

It's ooonly a car.

I prefer to think of it as a two-ton blunt instrument that careless incompetents that think "it's ooonly a car" regularly commit manslaughter with on the roads of Ireland.

You're probably the person who holds his hand on the horn until a learner gets out of your way, aren't you?

Actually I have a lot of respect for learner drivers, since most of them advertise their ignorance clearly, which enables me to give them a wide berth. Do you have learner plates? I ask only because your ignorance and/or disrespect of the rules of the road would suggest you need them.

BTW, nice to see you boasting about getting banned from forums... Nothing sad about it... You're an internet bad-ass...

Indeed I am. And well done for demonstrating to everyone else that your argument is so pathetically weak that you have to resort to dissing sigs. Try mocking my handle next, or calling me "fatty". Ooooohhh!

Barr, if there was no traffic on the road, and nothing coming off the sliproads, why were you in the overtaking lane? Oh, and FYI, the rules of the road in the UK state that you should move to the outside lane if traffic is entering the carriageway from a sliproad. Not on the off-chance that traffic might come along on the sliproad, any minute now, sure I'll betcha a fiver. You were wrong, the Garda pulled you up on it, I hope they do prosecute you for it.

adam /who was boxed in by a stupid bitch in a toyota jeep in the overtaking lane this afternoon

MrPudding

DaveMcG wrote:

I don't know why the OP was in the wrong lane... but it didn't affect anyone, and going on what information he's given us (could be all lies, I don't really know or care, I'm just dealing with the scenario), it appears the Garda was pulling him over for the sake of it, or to make a point or something.

I don't even give a sh*t about what he did (be in the wrong lane), I just don't get why everyone's going so harshly on him... seems fairly childish to me.

Did you read the original post? There was another car, in this case a police car. That car did not materialise behind the OP, so added to driving in the wrong lane we also have not paying attention while driving.

I will also move into the outside lane to allow people onto the main carriage way from sliproads. I find I only need to do this when someone is actually trying to join the road though.:rolleyes:

MrP

boardsee

The road I was travelling on is a link road no more than 1km in distance end to end with 2 lanes that conects the city centre to a major rounndabound which then breaks off into three lanes.

3)I take the last exit on the roundabout which would require me to get into outside lane anyway just a short distance up the road .

He was taaking the next right turn off the roundabout a short distance ahead. He was in the correct lane. Besides, for all we know that female guarda who received no driver training from the guardaforce, could have being driving the squad car that went out of control killing that old woman after crashing thru a busstop a couple months back. The guards arent always right, and from wha tive seen of them, they`re pretty **** drivers themselves.

DubTony, what age are you out of interest? 95?

cormie

Just regarding the 3 lane, stay in lane situation.

DubTony, are you saying the lane 2 (the middle lane) is only to be used for overtaking cars in lane 1 (left hand lane)?

Please see attached image..

If you have been in lane 2 since before the bridge and you are not going to take the turn off (so you will be on lane 2 after the left turn off which lane 1 takes) are you saying you should get into lane 1 if you are not going speeds to overtake those who are in lane 1 and then get back into lane 2 only when lane 1 is coming to an end (so even after you pass the GET IN LANE sign you should remain in lane 1 unless you are overtaking even though you will be going from lane 2 before the bridge, to lane 2 after the lane 1 exit?

So if the above does not apply, if you are coming off the bridge and you want to take the left turn off up ahead and those who were doing say 90kmph in lane 2 (left hand lane before lane 1 came into play) should remain in lane 2, and you are going 100kmph, is it ok to overtake them in lane1? Or should they move into lane 1 and allow you to overtake in lane 2 and then swap back lanes once you have made the manouver and not after the GET IN LANE sign, but before the lane 1 exit, they get into lane 2?

Or should it be that if you want to overtake anybody on that road you MUST be in lane 3 so then nobody in lane 2 or 1 should be overtaking eachother? so they must be going the exact same speed. Surely not?

This piece of road is the turn off onto the M11 from Bray/Shankill, past the lane 1 exit is then the m50, this is going northbound.

dahamsta

boardsee wrote:

for all we know that female guarda who received no driver training from the guardaforce, could have being driving the squad car that went out of control killing that old woman after crashing thru a busstop a couple months back.

That's the most pathetic rebuttal I've seen in a long time.

adam

Alun

Replying to Cormie's post ...

The left most lane in that situation is not the same as the left most lane of a normal 3-lane motorway. It's signposted (as far as I can remember) as the turn-off lane for the M11/N11 very early on, just after the traffic joins from the Fassaroe junction, and the dashed line separating it from the main carriageway indicates the same. What DubTony was referring to was a normal 3-lane motorway so those rules don't apply here.

Despite this, many cars on the main carriageway still seem to leave it until the very, very last minute to pull into this lane, even in the morning when the traffic is very busy on that stretch. Why they do this I don't know, but it makes undertaking traffic in this lane at any great speed differential a hazardous procedure because cars pull over into this lane apparently without looking with alarming regularity.

Barr

dahamsta wrote:

Oh, and FYI, the rules of the road in the UK state that you should move to the outside lane if traffic is entering the carriageway from a sliproad. [/size]

Did I forget to mention this happened in Ireland !!!

dahamsta

Barr wrote:

Did I forget to mention this happened in Ireland !!!

The points I was trying to make are: a) You're applying British rules of the road in Ireland; and b) you're not even doing it right.

adam

ds20prefecture

Barr wrote:

But having said that i find myself on the outside lane most of the time on this particular road being held up by people who think if they are driving at the speed limit , often below the limit , they do not have to make way for cars travelling at higher speeds, so anybody who sees a past approaching supra with a veilside front spoiler please make your way into the slow lane. Well apart frome some exceptions i.e WRX's , 300ZX, 200SX, SKYLINES,FTO's, EVO's,BMW's > 2.0 etc , you know who you are !!!! :cool:

Something seems to have confused you into thinking that the brand or model of car you drive determines your entitlement to the use of the outside lane. I'm guessing regular self-abuse?

I don't believe I have read a more childish, ill-constructed sentence in my brief spell on this forum. The thought of someone this immature regularly driving something as powerful as a Supra chills me to the bone. I hope you confine yourself to the outside lane of dual carriageways around Cork only.

The fact that you still cannot see what you did wrong is also particularly worrying. It is not the crime of the century, but to seek (and find!) support for your actions on a motoring forum beggars belief.