Nightly Boards Backup

Gazza22

I, among quite a few users do be online late at night

The boards backup is currently set at 3am. At this time there does be a fair amount of us night hawks online and it's an inconvenience! Sometimes i just can't be bothered waiting the half an hour, i just get too tired then. It's really annoying though when you get into a certain thread and the backup starts...

So a request....could the backup be timed at lets say 5am instead? I think this would work well because it allows the late night users to have their time on boards without getting into a bad humor when they suddenly get cut off and then it backs up just before the early morning users come online...so everyone is happy

netwhizkid

I agree with this,
as i posted a few mins ago on after hours i found it to play havoc with my USA schedule and a 5am back-up would more suit if possible. I was only on holidays there but with the frantic pace of life there night-time is when i used to browse boards and i'm sure other american/irish etc. in the states would appreciate having boards made more accessible.

monkeyfudge

Actually I like it...

It forces me to go to bed...

TerrorFirmer

monkeyfudge wrote:

Actually I like it...

It forces me to go to bed...

You said it!

regi

Its just my way of saying 'go to bed'. Alternatively, if you want to buy us a netapp, I'll take a snap mirror without the downtime.

Goodshape

Regi wrote:

Alternatively, if you want to buy us a netapp, I'll take a snap mirror without the downtime.

To be honest, I think boards would be missing something if you got rid of the downtime completely - but who goes to bed at 3am these days? That lark's for the grannys. 5am's the bed time of champions!

seamus

Regi wrote:

Its just my way of saying 'go to bed'. Alternatively, if you want to buy us a netapp, I'll take a snap mirror without the downtime.

Sure. Third-party, out-of-state, bad cheque do?

Hugh Hefner

Seriously though, a 5am downtime would be much nicer. I was going to suggest perhaps an even later time of 6am but I realise that some people would have just gotten up and would want to browse then so.....

I fully support a change to 5am.

Creamy Goodness

this is the sort of thing that you can't please everyone with.

5-6 am people might be in work already, people getting up etc etc.

3-4 am people still up.

i'm sure the admins had looked and saw when the least amount of activity is on the server and based the downtime on that to affect the least amount of people.

MrPudding

Regi wrote:

Its just my way of saying 'go to bed'. Alternatively, if you want to buy us a netapp, I'll take a snap mirror without the downtime.

Is there no way to do hot backups?

MrP

flogen

I would say I agree with a change, but there have been so many times where the 3AM downtime has served as a reverse alarm-clock, God knows what would happen to me if it was pushed back by two hours!

billy the squid

It would be nice if it didnt have to back up every single night, maybe once a week or something, during early sunday or something, it is very frustrating. before the backups were 15 to 20 minutes, now they take 45 to 50 minutes.

seamus

billy the squid wrote:

It would be nice if it didnt have to back up every single night, maybe once a week or something, during early sunday or something, it is very frustrating. before the backups were 15 to 20 minutes, now they take 45 to 50 minutes.

I don't think I can imagine the level of complaining that would take place about proper backup strategies if people lost 3 or 4 days worth of posts from corruption. Sod's law also dictates that the database would need to be restored from backup, 6 days, 13.5 hours after the first "weekly" backup. I'm guessing each back up is incremental, as opposed to a backup of the entire DB. The time would increase because the volume of users and therefore posts is ever increasing.

Backup/Recovery I'm sure is already near the top of the Admins' extensive todo list. If only the had some money.....(hint)

Gazza22

Regi wrote:

Its just my way of saying 'go to bed'. Alternatively, if you want to buy us a netapp, I'll take a snap mirror without the downtime.

Well maybe just think about it Regi!? You see theres alot of us that just can't always go asleep at that time! I think it's too early for a backup...

Cremo wrote:

this is the sort of thing that you can't please everyone with.
5-6 am people might be in work already, people getting up etc etc

I actually do think a 5am backup would please alot of people...if you go online at 5am there is barely a peep on boards and then the backup would be finished at around 5:45 perfect for early risers

Agent Smith

i'd go with gazza on this, 5am seems right IMO

angeldelight

I'd love if it was at 5!! I'm often still awake at 3 and it is really annoying

Mimikyu

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bang_bang_rosie

Me too, really annoying when you're still up (I usually am, boards is my bedtime reading!) 3am is way to early. I support the 5am backup.

Sleepy

Well, personally I'm against this. I need boards.ie to go down on me before I can go too sleep

Gazza22

Sleepy wrote:

Well, personally I'm against this. I need boards.ie to go down on me before I can go too sleep

Ah who can value your op with a name like that! Your bias

Farls

5am sounds ideal...but as has been said...its a nice way of tellin ya to goto bed!

PiE

This is suggested just about every year and it has never changed :x

Dizzyblabla

I personally prefer 6am cause that's when I start all my wrap up, but 5 will do, cause it's still quiet here at 3am...

Gone West

Read the boards stats on bigboards.com
3am is the quietest time.

Goodshape

FuzzyLogic wrote:

Read the boards stats on bigboards.com
3am is the quietest time.

Because it's not online.

Stats here - the big drop at 3am (2200 on the page) and then a fair few return between 4-5, after which it stays quite low until 0800.

Aside from the 3o'clock downtime, 5-6 seems the quietest.

Gone West

lol.
very silly of me.
thats my reminder that I need to go to bed.

Esel

I support the 5 a.m. proposal. A simple change?

dahamsta

Dizzyblabla wrote:

I personally prefer 6am cause that's when I start all my wrap up...

Duffle coats?

(Bugger, is it duffle or duffel? A spelling quandary from such a trivial post, shame shame!)

Cathy

I'd agree with moving it to 5, a lot of people seem to be quite active for the couple of hours before that.
Although it going down at 3 does remind me to go to bed...

DonkeyStyle \o/

Yeah, boards is dead at 6am.
Very often I find I'm just after finishing a humongous post, and just as I get ready to click submit, I notice the backup had started while I was still typing

flogen

am I reading those stats wrong or does it seem that boards.ie is busier at three than it is at 12-2? That can't be right...

amp

Personally I think 14:34 IST is the best time as it's when I take my daily brain shampoo which takes about 56 minutes.

SHUT UP! 3AM IS BOARDS.IE SLEEPY TIME! THE END!

Esel

flogen wrote:

am I reading those stats wrong or does it seem that boards.ie is busier at three than it is at 12-2? That can't be right...

GMT +5?

flogen

esel wrote:

GMT +5?

danke

PullMyFinger!

*supports the 5am shutdown*

DonkeyStyle \o/

Any minute now...

billy the squid

havent time to post a reply, see you all at 4

Mimikyu

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weemcd

5 a.m ftw

DonkeyStyle \o/

So what has everyone been up to?
I've spent the last hour catching up on Something Awful ... they've sure added a lot of content since I read it last year.

Lump

It doesn't matter when the down time is, some one will complain.... People in the states, you lot, me if I'm an early morning in work.

John

Gazza22

amp wrote:

SHUT UP! 3AM IS BOARDS.IE SLEEPY TIME! THE END!

So wheres the 5 golden stars amp! hehe

petes

Never bothers me as I am fast asleep at that time. If I was'nt Id be fecked at work the next day. So then if it changes to 5 someone else is going to say "Hey can we not change it to another time". Its been set to that time for ages now, has'nt it? Leave it alone.

Sleepy

gazza22 wrote:

Ah who can value your op with a name like that! Your bias

Sleepy is actually a shortened version of Sleep Comes Tomorrow which has been my username on other forums for years, it's just too long for boards.ie's username field. It was chosen as a reference to my insomnia and because I like the David Kitt song of the same name.

Posters on sin.ie always referred to me as Sleepy or SCT (actually I think it was Sarky that first christened me Sleepy) instead of typing out the full name so I decided I may as well use Sleepy if i couldn't have Sleep Comes Tomorrow.

Now that was a long and boring story

dahamsta

Sleepy wrote:

Now that was a long and boring story

Indeed.

Tar.Aldarion

i would prefer 5am.

CuLT

Get a job you damn hippies.

Also, wow, an hour now? Last time I checked it was 15 mins!

The Sweeper

seamus wrote:

I don't think I can imagine the level of complaining that would take place about proper backup strategies if people lost 3 or 4 days worth of posts from corruption.

Jesus can you imagine? For starters Victor's post count would drop below the tens of thousands... Think of the wasted hours people!! And that's only the time he spends posting the first time around!

grimloch

CuLT wrote:

Get a job you damn hippies.

Also, wow, an hour now? Last time I checked it was 15 mins!

Not sure if its a whole hour, 45 or 50 mins I believe.

Gazza22

Oh btw...last night @ 3:06am there were 83 members & 82 guests online...

Esel

petes wrote:

Never bothers me as I am fast asleep at that time. If I was'nt Id be fecked at work the next day. So then if it changes to 5 someone else is going to say "Hey can we not change it to another time". Its been set to that time for ages now, has'nt it? Leave it alone.

If it doesn't bother you, why did you bother posting here?