Banned video's... Faces of death etc.

daveg

The "scariest video ever" thread reminded me of a video I rented a good few years back faces of death. Just wondering if anyone else had seen it. Also rented one in the States called "banned from tv". I hate the feeling these video's leave you with.

Deadwing

I've never seen it, nor do i ever want to see it. The very concept is vile and abhorrent to me.

rubadub

Faces of death is 90% fakes, the rest are just news programs

7aken

reminds me of some stuff on ogrish.com -warning, ogrish.com contains some very disturbing material. i've stopped visiting.

its weird how people are attracted to watching this kind of stuff though, morbid curiosity i suppose. would love to know how many people actually go to ogrish.com after seeing this post. curiosity is a powerful thing.

ionapaul

I'm with rubadub, never gone to those sites or searched the internet for the Iraqi or Chechen decapitation videos. Or those of the people jumping from the Twin Towers. I am easily disturbed by those kinds of things and don't particularly want to faint in front of my PC screen! God knows what I'll do if I have to watch a future wife give birth, I'll probably be on the floor in no time. A co-worker once accidentally sent me a video clip of a Russian conscript getting his throat slit by a Chechen, thankfully he ran over and warned me beforehand and I deleted the mail. Ughhhh.

AB03

I seen some ****ed up stuff on ogrish alright. Theres a video of some chechen rebels cutting the head off a russian soldier with a bowling knife in the middle of the snowy forest. They all stand around laughing while the guy screams for his life. Disturbed me for quite a while, as it did all my mates, every one of them.

AB03

Hehe, same vid eh?

Deadwing

I just dont get why anyone would want to watch that. Try to imagine it for a second as a video of one of your loved ones, father, brother, etc being decapitated, and geeks and pervs around the globe watching it for a laugh.
Its wrong on so many levels. Thats someone being KILLED, they didnt yell 'cut' and then ken bigley hops back up off the floor and goes to his trailer for the afternoon, the guys dead, and videoing it or watching someone die for a cheap thrill is just messed up beyond belief.

roberteboot

Deadwing wrote:

I just dont get why anyone would want to watch that. Try to imagine it for a second as a video of one of your loved ones, father, brother, etc being decapitated, and geeks and pervs around the globe watching it for a laugh.
Its wrong on so many levels. Thats someone being KILLED, they didnt yell 'cut' and then ken bigley hops back up off the floor and goes to his trailer for the afternoon, the guys dead, and videoing it or watching someone die for a cheap thrill is just messed up beyond belief.

I really dont think most people watch it for a cheap thrill.They arent sitting round in leather underpants getting kicks out of it.Its human nature to be curious about these kind of things.Its the reason people slow down when going past car crashes etc.
In saying that i have have never felt the need to go and look up one of those decapitation videos.The closest ive seen was an American worker in Iraq being shot after a helicopter crash which was easily disturbing enough for me.I certainly didnt think it was a "laugh".The video was on colloegdowntime or something(dont remember exactly where) and i was curious.i dont think that makes me a perv to be honest with you.

fdevine

I remember watching Faces of Death many years ago, more out of curiousity than wanting a sick thrill.

Its the final clip, of the guy being shot in the cemetary that is still etched in my mind. Whenever I hear the title of the video it comes flooding back.

Also, while the Ken Bigley execution video was very disturbing, there are much much worse out there, believe me.

I dont agree that whoever watches these sort of things is sick or depraved or perverted in any way.

As previous posts say, its in our nature to be curious, even morbidly so.

We shouldn't not watch these type of things, because we have been brought up in a society where most forms of media are sanitised.

Shrimp

why do these vids even exist. like why bother? too much effort.

AB03

I hope you werent insinuating that I watched that chechen video for a cheap thrill deadwing?

Far from it, it disturbed me so much because of the lack of proper respect for another human being. As you said, that guy had family etc, and to see his head ripped from his shoulders while others watched laughing is absolutely sickening.
But at the same time, there is a reason behind all this, what the russians did to the chechens was ten times worse, ethnic cleansing basically. Raping and murdering women and children, so its understandable that they would want to tear their enemy to shreds, same goes for the iraqi insurgents. This **** doesnt happen for no reason.

Matthewthebig

But why did you watch it?

spahndirge

I watch some ****ed up stuff stuff on the net, the russian guy getting beheaded, any of the iraq beheadings, some of the weird twisted **** on ogrish, spooned, or some of those old sites. I used to watch a lot of them when I was in my teens as the Net was a relatively new thing.

I watched them because it's taboo, it's something that I watched to see what happened, just curiousity. I can understand people who cannot watch anythign like that, it would be like me watching child porn, I just never want to see anything like that.

I wouldn't look down on anyone who watches any sick stuff on the net. It's just a curiousity, it's like not wanting to look while driving past an accident on the road.

If you don't mind some grotesque stuff, check this out

Tusky

Faces of Death is 90% fake. The director plays someone in almost every scene. Also, its not banned.

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=search&searchtype=allproducts&searchstring=faces+of+death&page=search&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

heres an article on how it is fake.

http://www.sptimes.com/News/102600/Weekend/Lifting_the_mask_from.shtml

fdevine

I think we are talking about different 'Faces of Death'.

The one I remember was more like a documentary, supposedly filmed on behalf of Ammnesty International.

AI, again supposedly, disowned the video before release due to what they felt was the gratuitous nature of the scenes.

AdMMM

I've never looked at any of these sites or clips. In fact just the thought of it here is making me sick-ish!

AB03

And your nick is murderer?

Deadwing

my nick is deadwing. does that mean i have one giant dead wing on my back too?

Matthewthebig

He does!

He's a fallen angel

/me dreams

grimloch

Whereas, supposedly Matthewthebig is indeed quite big.

Personally I've never seen too much of that stuff. Apart from one I was linked to a while back. Not overly shocking tbh.

flogen

Deadwing wrote:

my nick is deadwing. does that mean i have one giant dead wing on my back too?

You mean you don't??!
Well, I don't know about the rest of you guys, but that's the internet ruined for me.

Fallschirmjager

AB03 wrote:

I hope you werent insinuating that I watched that chechen video for a cheap thrill deadwing?

Far from it, it disturbed me so much because of the lack of proper respect for another human being. As you said, that guy had family etc, and to see his head ripped from his shoulders while others watched laughing is absolutely sickening.
But at the same time, there is a reason behind all this, what the russians did to the chechens was ten times worse, ethnic cleansing basically. Raping and murdering women and children, so its understandable that they would want to tear their enemy to shreds, same goes for the iraqi insurgents. This **** doesnt happen for no reason.

sorry this is the moral relative thing...i just dont buy that....it is all wrong...and i dont want to see it....

Sifo

most people who watch it are curious not sick, if you don't wanna watch it fair play, but dont go on about it... so you didnt watch anything like that, or search the internet for it or whatever, nobody is claiming they get kicks out of it.. and that ladies and gentlemen is what grinds my gears, Tod....

entropi

AB03 wrote:

And your nick is murderer?

And look at mine, does that mean i go around condemning people ?


Back on Topic :

I have seen on average 50+ clips of this sort of stuff on the net on various sites, but just from curiosity not some sick fetish of death and decapitations. I have also seen some videos while in the U.S. we rented out for the same purpose, curiosity... can't remember the name but they had some really sick stuff on em and i'm surprised that they are even on sale over there with security conscious America the way it is about anything terrorist.

Honestly, i dont think stuff like this should be so easily accessed but what can you do

Sparky

ive seen two versions of faces of death, one version is i presume from the 60's or 70's with some doctor showing news clips and other clips that i laughed at because they were staged. I presumed this after i firstly seen an asian version called facez of death, that is all police vids and news reports and is realistic, stomach turning stuff but the music adds to it aswell.

The General

daveg wrote:

The "scariest video ever" thread reminded me of a video I rented a good few years back faces of death. Just wondering if anyone else had seen it. Also rented one in the States called "banned from tv". I hate the feeling these video's leave you with.

That video is bull**** most if not all the videos are fake scarey :rolleyes:

Standard Toaster

Seen both but the "Banned from TV" one is nasty.
The scene where american politicion, [size=-1]Bud Dwyer,[/size] takes a 357 Magnum to his mouth and blows his brains out come to mind. The dude made sure it was caught on camera.
Was the scene with the little kid being hit by the train real or fake?

lukin

I downloaded the mpeg of the chechen guy getting beheaded a couple of years ago but I only watched it once, I found it too upsetting. I don't even know if I still have it.
I showed it to a couple fo people and they too were horrified. The one thing that struck me was every one of them had the same reaction on seeing it: They all asked "How could anyone do that to another human being?".

ShreddedHumans

I always look at those videos, they are a great laugh.

BigEejit

ShreddedHumans wrote:

I always look at those videos, they are a great laugh.

fúcking trolling muppet

I've given up on looking at those videos / pictures ... I remember seeing a picture of someone who had jumped 30 stories out of a building ... I can still see it in my minds eye ...very very disturbing

Sparky

lukin wrote:

I downloaded the mpeg of the chechen guy getting beheaded a couple of years ago but I only watched it once, I found it too upsetting. I don't even know if I still have it.
I showed it to a couple fo people and they too were horrified. The one thing that struck me was every one of them had the same reaction on seeing it: They all asked "How could anyone do that to another human being?".

was that the one where they kept stabbing him in the back of the neck, that upset me, i always imagine what it would be like to be in the victims shoes and hope to never feel pain like what they would get.

Tbh id feel better if they were just shot rather than being put through the pain of death.

makes me angry all the same.

ShreddedHumans

BigEejit wrote:

fúcking trolling muppet

Afraid not. I could argue that people are sick for reading about "121 dead in plane crash". I just like to face reality and see what the world is really like. Not what the media conditions me to perceive the world is like.

wtfpwned

nothin like throwin on a comedy on the box i mean something like the pianist or simon birch

TerrorFirmer

AB03 wrote:

I seen some ****ed up stuff on ogrish alright. Theres a video of some chechen rebels cutting the head off a russian soldier with a bowling knife in the middle of the snowy forest. They all stand around laughing while the guy screams for his life. Disturbed me for quite a while, as it did all my mates, every one of them.

I remember that one, sick it is. And hes still kinda gasping and choking when they have his head half severed. Sick stuff. It is a morbid curiousity, but I really hate looking at it, even when I want to!

ExOffender

tosser wrote:

I always look at those videos, they are a great laugh.

I could argue that people are sick for reading about "121 dead in plane crash". I just like to face reality and see what the world is really like. Not what the media conditions me to perceive the world is like.

Funny, but you've proved yourself just another media stereotype, since watching those videos has clearly desensitised you to their effect. And there is an undeniable distinction between 'facing reality' and 'ah that Ken Bigley decapitation vid was a great laugh.' If you can't see the difference, I quite seriously recommend you seek professional help asap. And I went to the last Hallowe'en party as Ken Bigley, and I'm telling you this.

Sparky

looking a vids and seeing the real life thing is completly different, you get used to vids but when you see real life gore as in a road accident and you see what your fellow human ends up like, you can throw all those vids in the bin because im telling you youll get very nausiaous (sp?) after seeing the real life thing.

lets hope many people dont.

7aken

on a deeper level, maybe watching these kinds of videos appeal to a persons phsycology on how they perceive death. maybe it even helps to spark a fuse where a person is forced to think about their own morality? fair enough it is sick **** , but people will perceive it differently. i've seen the russian guy clip, watched it once and havent watched it again, nor do i have the desire to. it doesnt mean im any less human or a psycopath.

Agent Orange

Believe it or not, 'Faces of Death' made more money in the cinema in Japan than 'E.T.'.

'Banned from Television' was banned by the British censor back in 1999:
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/ClassifiedWorks/DC2F0F3BB70E6916802567140062B894?OpenDocument

Here's what they said about it:

The Board carefully considered this video in the light of these tests. The main consideration for the Board was the question of harm referred to above. In short, does the work have the potential for anti- social influence?

In the Board's view it does. It is a compilation of scenes of extremely violent death, injury and mutilation, many of which are repeated in slow-motion. The commentary draws attention to the grislier aspects and in effect invites enjoyment at human suffering. The inclusion also of sex scenes reinforces the impression that the purpose of the video is to provide entertainment. There is no attempt to justify the images by placing the incidents in any other journalistic or educational context. Whatever current relevance the images might have had when they were originally photographed has been lost in the general compilation of horrors. The Board is conscious that a particular genre that has always been identified as entirely unacceptable is that of so-called 'snuff movies'. Their main identifying feature is that at least one of the participants is actually killed. BANNED FROM TELEVISION is only different in that, instead of a death being created for the work, actual death and injury is collated from a wide range of pre-existing sources to create the work.

The Board has concluded that the video is potentially harmful because of the influence it may have on the attitudes and behaviour of a significant proportion of likely viewers. The instinct of concern and compassion for the suffering of others is a basic social necessity. So is respect for the dignity of real human life. By presenting actual human death and mutilation as entertainment, the work, in the Board's view, has the potential to erode these instincts. There is a danger of it falling into the hands of young and impressionable persons (whatever its classification) and of some significant brutalising effect on their attitude to human life and pain.

The Board has considered the possibility of cuts as a remedy for these difficulties. It has concluded, however, that they would be unlikely to modify the tone and effect of the work acceptably.

Watching films like this is one thing but it's time to worry when you start to enjoy the real pain and suffering on display.

Gazza22

7aken wrote:

reminds me of some stuff on ogrish.com -warning, ogrish.com contains some very disturbing material. i've stopped visiting.

Yeah i went onto Ogrish once before, a very sick and disturbed website i must say. My mate opened up a video of one of the guys who was beheaded (won't mention who) and i seen about 10 secs of it and nearly puked.

This stuff can be very disturbing.

the_syco

The Russians, Iraqi insurgents, etc, do the video's as a trophy, and also as a pyscholical effect on those who watch it, in the hope of furthering their cause.

And by lots of people watching it, they succed.