Bisexuality?

Nirina

is anyone here bisexual? i'm just curious, and i'v nothing against you if you do. i think its normal to feel the way ppl do. Wether ur a girl and u like girls or guys, it doesn't matter.

Boston

Yes there is at least one.

Talliesin

LiouVille wrote:

Yes there is at least one.

There is? Cool, who? A/S/L?

Boston

20/male/dublin

Stark

My god, what perfect specs. Take me now.

Are you a bisexual yourself Nirina?

Victor

You don't quite seem to make a statement, nor ask a question.

Bi people are people too. Just ordinary people who happen to find both males and females attractive. A common misconception is that all bisexuals are non-commital. In fact many are in committed relationships, just the gender of their partner may be different from the gender of their previous partner.

Stark

And if there are many, many threads on the subject within this forum

Polly19

Victor wrote:

You don't quite seem to make a statement, nor ask a question.

Bi people are people too. Just ordinary people who happen to find both males and females attractive. A common misconception is that all bisexuals are non-commital. In fact many are in committed relationships, just the gender of their partner may be different from the gender of their previous partner.

I have to agree here.Im bi and have a girlfriend.But I dont want relationships wit girls cause I dont see myself having a future with them but my gf is my best friend and the both of us feel this way.

When men here women are bi its all ears and imediatly they say any chance of a threesome.It seems that bi women are allowed no respect.

Wit bi men women arent usully open to this as they see it as bad as two men being gay that its not natures way for two men to be together even if they are bi.

I think society,from what Ive seen,are accepting bi/lesbians/gays but they still have to progress future in respecting them

Boston

Nothing wrong with threesomes tbh. nothing inheriently disrepectfull about it.

tillys

Nirina wrote:

is anyone here bisexual? i'm just curious, and i'v nothing against you if you do. i think its normal to feel the way ppl do. Wether ur a girl and u like girls or guys, it doesn't matter.

there are alot of people bi but dont come out and say,why curious,are you not sure about your own sexuality?

Polly19

LiouVille wrote:

Nothing wrong with threesomes tbh. nothing inheriently disrepectfull about it.

i didnt say there was anything disrepectful about them I said there was something isreptful about how some men pereceive them to be a chance to get off on two women together

Nidge

Nirina wrote:

is anyone here bisexual? i'm just curious, and i'v nothing against you if you do. i think its normal to feel the way ppl do. Wether ur a girl and u like girls or guys, it doesn't matter.

What does that sentence in bold even mean? People will tend to feel like people, yeah.

This thread looks like it's only purpose is saying "I Nirina just discovered there's such thing as bisexual people and I'd just like to say; I'm ok with you being bisexual". Or what do you intend with this thread?

fortysixand2

Nidge wrote:

This thread looks like it's only purpose is saying "I Nirina just discovered there's such thing as bisexual people and I'd just like to say; I'm ok with you being bisexual". Or what do you intend with this thread?

Kinda been wondering that myself . . .

Roper

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Talliesin

Polly19 wrote:

i didnt say there was anything disrepectful about them I said there was something isreptful about how some men pereceive them to be a chance to get off on two women together

And lets face it, a threesome with someone like that would be crap.

Polly19

Yes it would be cause youve got a man glaring and drolling at you and your girlfriend when your trying to have an intimate moment.Whereas a man taking it seriously would take care to bring u bout pleasure sexually wse rather then getting seriously turned on and f*****g you and ur gf hard cause hes so horny

Boston

As an aside

Bi-sexuality.

The majority of straight people if they where totally honest would admitt that they would have little problem actually being with a member of the same sex. But don't feel that it's "for them" so to speak. Don't feel they would have the same connections to a member of the same sex, as they do the opposite, or get as much out of it. The same goes for most gay people. Bi-sexuals however feel they can get the same out of either sex. OR at least the potential is there

You often hear Bi-sexuals say they have a preferences towards one sex or the other. Very few are a 50/50 split. However I think most would agree that regardless of gender, when you're with someone you tend to be into them to the same level, and get as much out of it, if that makes sense. That very basic and there's allot of different things involved. Like being more emotionally/physically into one gender then the other. Also the relationship roles tend to vary depending on which gender you're with, But imho, Just with any relationship, it depends on those specific people.

The Important thing to note is that things change. General gender preferences, emotional/physical preferences, relationship roles. They all vary over time. I started out with a very definite gender preference which has now complete been reversed. This is the nature of Bi-sexuality I think, and not something which should be confused with a phase.

Anyway, just my thoughts based on a conversation with john on Saturday. I'll probably add more later.

PhantomBeaker

My basic thoughts (and I could go into HUGE depth with this) for myself are: I go for people who are attractive to me (this then sidesteps what gender I like, given that quite a majority of my previous partners have been trans, of one state or another). Of course, whether they are attracted to me in return, or if I even have the courage to find this out and/or do anything about it - that's an ENTIRELY different issue.

(As a result I'm probably the least sexual bisexual you will meet. :S )

Take care,
Aoife

Boston

Hmm, I think Claire_h said it best when she spoke on bi-sexuality awhile ago.

"There a big difference between appreciating both genders for their differences, and gender being irrelavent"

Sounds to me that gender is irrelavent to you, whereas for me I'm very aware that being with a woman is a completely different experience to being with a man. I might get as much out of it, but what i get will be difference.

lucernarian

I think Liouville is right here. I can see how people can value differences, while others value similarities, if you understand me. In my case the similarities matter most.
MJET

xzanti

Nirina wrote:

is anyone here bisexual? i'm just curious, and i'v nothing against you if you do. i think its normal to feel the way ppl do. Wether ur a girl and u like girls or guys, it doesn't matter.[/QUOT
Where you by any chance drunk when you wrote this??

LegacyUser

LiouVille wrote:

"There a big difference between appreciating both genders for their differences, and gender being irrelavent".

That's not neccesarily true. One could appreciate gender difference in a sexual or emotional way but see little difference in a social sense. The too aren't mutually exclusive.

I find the term "bi-sexual" an odd concept. I am attracted to both men and women but I do not possess two sexualities. My feelings are one. Everyone of my straight guy friends that I've chatted to about this has admited to being attracted to other guys. Does that mean they are suddenly bi-sexual? If so then 100% heterosexual people are probably the greatest minority going!

I think that society will come to see attraction to both sexes as perfectly normal by it's own rules. It's a very simple thing and really is no big deal.
Until then........have fun!!

Arcadian

I think bisexuality was invented by gay men who don't have the guts to face up to reality and would rather lie to themselves and others by getting married. Any 'bi' guys i've met have always been married for years or in a long term relationship with a woman, never vice versa. How often do you hear of 40 something gay guys dumping their partners to run off with a woman, never !

memphis

Arcadian wrote:

I think bisexuality was invented by gay men who don't have the guts to face up to reality and would rather lie to themselves and others by getting married. Any 'bi' guys i've met have always been married for years or in a long term relationship with a woman, never vice versa. How often do you hear of 40 something gay guys dumping their partners to run off with a woman, never !

That's a rather close minded attitude to have if you ask me. Bisexuals can quite happily live a life fancying both sexes. And will have sexual experiences and the like with either sex if and when they choice. Yes, it can be done to confusion, and being afraid to swing in one direction, but whats so wrong with comfortably going both ways, and being happy to do so til the day ya die??

snappieT

Arcadian wrote:

I think bisexuality was invented by gay men who don't have the guts to face up to reality and would rather lie to themselves and others by getting married. Any 'bi' guys i've met have always been married for years or in a long term relationship with a woman, never vice versa. How often do you hear of 40 something gay guys dumping their partners to run off with a woman, never !

Typical.

Now I realise that I'm only 17, and probably very naive, but I am bisexual. I'm not bi(passing) straight-town heading for gay-ville, but I'm genuinely attracted to both genders. I know it's cheesy and corny, but it's the person that counts, not the number of holes they have.

damien

Arcadian wrote:

I think bisexuality was invented by gay men who don't have the guts to face up to reality and would rather lie to themselves and others by getting married.

Bigotry is an equal opportunies ignorant breed. Even gays can be bigots.

Boston

OpenMindedGuy wrote:

That's not necessarily true. One could appreciate gender difference in a sexual or emotional way but see little difference in a social sense. The too aren't mutually exclusive.

There's a huge social difference between how people will react to same sex and opposite sex relationships. Sexuality is not a social concept it's about the individual and as such I've limited my argument to that. I see little difference between being with a man or a woman as far as the outside world goes, I act the exact same, that's a social thing. However within relationships I do see a difference. And it's that difference that attracts me. If I believes there was no difference between being with either gender I'd be with women, for the simple reason it would make my life easier. However I don't believe that to be the case

I find the term "bi-sexual" an odd concept. I am attracted to both men and women but I do not possess two sexualities.

In the same way Gay men might not be happy, and Lesbians probably aren't from lesbania. Where's your point?

My feelings are one.

I'm abit confused, where do you mean by one. You mean that you feel the same way for boths sex'es? that's absolutely fine. I don't. Maybe the confusing bit is now but you and odd could be at be totally contrary to each other on this point yet still be bi?

If so then 100% heterosexual people are probably the greatest minority going!

Follow closely by the 100% gay's, 100%assholes, 100% nice people, so on and so forth.

I think that society will come to see attraction to both sexes as perfectly normal by it's own rules. It's a very simple thing and really is no big deal.
Until then........have fun!!

Sure my not. Plenty of societies through out history have.

I think bisexuality was invented by gay men who don't have the guts to face up to reality and would rather lie to themselves and others by getting married. Any 'bi' guys i've met have always been married for years or in a long term relationship with a woman, never vice versa. How often do you hear of 40 something gay guys dumping their partners to run off with a woman, never !

The only Jews I've ever met whore purple trousers, had cocks, and blew up balloons for a living, Therefore all Jews wear purple trousers, have cocks and blow up balloons.

Arcadian

I'm not bigoted, it's simply an opinion. And like all opinions it's changeable. If i'm wrong i have no problem being corrected

Boston

Your opionion is based on crap mate, and its also pretty hard to make out where exactly your talking about. Are you talking about all those married 'bi' men looking for sex in gay classified? Whats this based on? Nobody is forced into marriage in ireland anymore.

Stark

Arcadian wrote:

I'm not bigoted, it's simply an opinion.

Funny, I've never heard that, ever before.

Pinky53

Being Bisexual is all well and good,
however, I think, alot of it comes down to society.
If ur a bisexual girl and going out with a girl, wud you be as comfortable doing all the day to day things as you wud if you were seeing a guy?

Point is, I haven't met any that are willing to be so open. Are you willing to introdce to friends...family...these are the real questions

Hmm_Messiah

Pinky53 wrote:

Being Bisexual is all well and good,
however, I think, alot of it comes down to society.
If ur a bisexual girl and going out with a girl, wud you be as comfortable doing all the day to day things as you wud if you were seeing a guy?

Point is, I haven't met any that are willing to be so open. Are you willing to introduce to friends...family...these are the real questions

Well I'm not a girl but yea I introduced both girlfriends and boyfriends to family and friends, would be hard not to, like pretending I'd only three limbs not four or something, and in fact I think slightly more publicly affectionate etc etc with the same sex partner; though I think that was just due to "long story" personal circumstance

Boston

Pinky53 wrote:

Being Bisexual is all well and good,
however, I think, alot of it comes down to society.
If ur a bisexual girl and going out with a girl, wud you be as comfortable doing all the day to day things as you wud if you were seeing a guy?

Point is, I haven't met any that are willing to be so open. Are you willing to introdce to friends...family...these are the real questions

I get what your saying, would you but willing to out yourself to friends and family, and solidify in their mind some kinda impression that you're gay, nothing that you "might" one day be going out with a guy/girl instead, and all the **** that would acompany that?

I guess I have don't just that, but it's took the best part of a year.

Housi

The bisexuality question, a scourge of the teenager and a blessing to the twenty something.

Personally a relationshipwith a woman appeals to me more than a relationship with a man. However sex with a man turns me on more than sex with a woman. During phases of being single, we can see where our deepest desires lie when comparing the two during fantasies and self-pleasure. I may be in love with a woman and going out with her for the past seven months, it's just that when the mind wanders it's more often men than women I desire sexually.

I'm sure it's an unresolved social fear but being intimate with a man just doesn't interest me at the moment. The sexual experiences I've had felt completley animal without even a sense of spirituality or anything higher than the basic act of satisfying sexual needs. Still though I'm only 21 and have a lifetime of experience to gain

BTW, hello to everyone here. This is my first time writing on a GBL forum.

MicraBoy

Hi Housi, welcome on boards.

I can really relate to what you said in your post. The difference being I got over that hurdle (or rather I crashed through it ) I think it is possible have that intimacy and love in the same way with both sexes.

tonyinuae

I'm not bisexual - not since I was 12 anyway - and yet I can't help thinking bisexuality is the natural state of human beings. Is that crazy?

I envy bisexuals their unjudgmental acceptance and appreciation of the beauty of any individual, regardless of gender. I wish I could find women (much as I adore them) sexually attractive, but it would be like being asked to fancy my sister - it would just freak me out. Unfortunate, but there it is.

In the Arab world, where I live, bisexuality (in the sense of fancying both sexes) is considered more 'normal' than it has been to date in western societies. Still a taboo of course, and roles are important in the equation, but still - it's accepted in a way. To the extent that when living in Saudi Arabia, I enjoyed being able to think of almost any attractive male I met as a potential sexual partner. That was so exciting after repressed 70s Ireland. The result of this attitude was a lot of sex, and even passionate relationships, with mainly bisexual men.

Now I have a relationship with a younger guy who is gay, not bisexual, and I find it very satisfying. There is no 'other factor' lurking in the background. he likes men (me) and so do I (him) and that's really nice. He and I might even enjoy some fun with a few others but at least they are all men, there's nothing outside our relationship that's 'foreign' in the sense of 'not-gay'.

Of course, the fact remains: there are never any guarantees - either of us might fall madly in love with someone else at any moment, and in that case, it wouldn't be much consolation to know that the new partner was of the opposite sex, it really wouldn't matter much.

Nirina

oops sory everyone! i forgot i'd posted this thread.. So back on topic; yes i'm bisexual and i was jus curious coz i wasn't too sure of my own.. So i thought to post and see what other peoples are. And i know some ppl who think it's weird or not healthy! (But they're all crap-heads!)

carbonkid

tonyinuae wrote:

I envy bisexuals their unjudgmental acceptance and appreciation of the beauty of any individual, regardless of gender. I wish I could find women (much as I adore them) sexually attractive, but it would be like being asked to fancy my sister - it would just freak me out. Unfortunate, but there it is.

Imho i dont think you'd see it that way if you were bisexual. I dated a bisexual guy before and he had this constent battle in his head over which sex he should be going out with (of course he didnt tell me all this till after we broke up) so when he was dating a girl he'd be thinking, wait is it a guy i should really be going out with?

Sometimes its easier to be put in a box, gay or stright. Been bi can then often leads to feeling like your keeping a big dark secret from your friends and ppl who mean most to you and that cant feel good.

murrno

Is it just me or is bisexuality a long phase people go through, I mean take a woman who claims she's bisexual, she goes through her life having sexual encounters, relationships...etc with both men and women but ends up with either a man or woman to spend the rest of her life with. Does that mean she'll say she is gay or straight then or will she continue to say she's bisexual even though she is in a gay or straight relationship.

It's just hard to get my mind around...I don't have a problem with bisexuality but I find a lot of people gay and straight (myself included) use it as a cover-up of the fact they're are in fact gay or straight (as some straight people crave to have bisexual/gay tendencies). BTW...don't cover-up that I'm gay, but used the words "I might be bisexaul to my family", before coming out as a lesbian because it was the easier. They could think ahh well maybe she'll still end up straight.

That is the question I just want to ask everyone...do you end up straight or gay if you're claimed bisexual? Is it something that bisexual people are a certain percentage gay and a certain percentage gay? Reason I ask this is because I went out with a girl before who claimed to be 80%gay and 20%straight...strange I know!

Nirina

Hmm, good question. I'd say bisexual ppl might end up gay or straight, if they'll end up with one person, a guy or a girl. But maybe even in that, they'll feel attracted to the opposite sex, which their partner should be ok with. Happens in straight relationships, so why not in bi/gay/lesbian relationships?

AllStar

i consider myself bisexual as i am attracted to both men and women, however i have never been with a man (yet) i often think is it somthing my family and friends should know. i did tell 2 of my best friends when i was in first year in college and as i expected they didnt care and were fully supportive. ( i did supsequently get into a 9 month relationship with one of the girls)
but as toward the family thing i dont really think its somthing they need to know, anyone have an opinion on this??

Boston

murrno wrote:

Is it just me or is bisexuality a long phase people go through, I mean take a woman who claims she's bisexual, she goes through her life having sexual encounters, relationships...etc with both men and women but ends up with either a man or woman to spend the rest of her life with. Does that mean she'll say she is gay or straight then or will she continue to say she's bisexual even though she is in a gay or straight relationship.

Say you leave Ireland and emigrate to england. Whe do you stop being Irish? For all intents and purposes after a while you're pratically English arn't you? Infact some people will start to think of themselves as english, while others will always consider themselfs irish. It's kinda like that with Bisexuality. You need to be with both sexes constantly to be Bi. It's about what's inside.

murrno

LiouVille wrote:

Say you leave Ireland and emigrate to england. Whe do you stop being Irish? For all intents and purposes after a while you're pratically English arn't you? Infact some people will start to think of themselves as english, while others will always consider themselfs irish. It's kinda like that with Bisexuality. You need to be with both sexes constantly to be Bi. It's about what's inside.

Why would you need to be with both sexes constantly to be claimed as Bi...a lesbian doesn't need to be with women constantly to prove her gayness same can be said for heterosexual males and females and gay males, they don't need to be constantly with they sex they're attracted to prove their sexuality. I really don't understand what you mean by that, if a bisexual person falls in love with either male or female...they loose their sexuality?? is that what you're trying to say?! In that case you're claiming that bisexuals never settle down into a relationship...I don't know am confused by your quote

Stark

You missed his sarcasm. Bless him. The hetero halfling freak.

murrno

Ahhhh, I get you now...am a bit slow sometimes lol:D

also in teenage girls!they just shift girls to try arrouse boys!they not really bi!just attention seekers

damien

Deleted User wrote:

they just shift girls to try arrouse boys!they not really bi!just attention seekers

I used to do the exact same!!

fortysixand2

damien.m wrote:

I used to do the exact same!!

Damien, you dog.

parker larkin

this is one of the most interesting threads I've read anywhere in a long time, excpet for Damien's bit

Seriously though, it is interesting to hear these varied opinions, and isn't it f3cking great to be able to chat about these things, 11 years ago homosexuality was still illegal here

Number6

Polly19 wrote:

It seems that bi women are allowed no respect.

No, people just don't have any respect for YOU

Zillah

murrno wrote:

Ahhhh, I get you now...am a bit slow sometimes lol:D

"Shift"

Ah, bless....