Hill around south dublin??

joc_06

Im looking for an area around ucd area with about 100m of grass up an approx 30 degree incline
has to be grassy but cut every now and again.
some public park or something?

It'd be great if this area was accompanied with a flat area about 200m long.

any suggestions welcome.

joejoem

The only one that would spring to mind is Killiney Hill, about 20 min drive I suppose. For "burst" running that whole area is great

joc_06

directions?
do a lot of ppl use it?
are there lights there?
i plan to use it all winter

BaZmO*

There's plenty of hills in the Phoenix Park.

B.

joc_06

any place well lit up though for the dark nights comin up?

Sleipnir

If you build it, they will come?

joc_06

you want me to build a 100m hill with flood lights and grass in south dublin? im not a billionaire yet you know.

this is or should be fairly common athletics training so i presume our excellent athletes in dublin have a place to themselves. the angle of the hill allows beginners to build up the strength to assume the "sprint position". the flat area is for tempo running and med ball work. all of these are fundamentals of any GPP phase and every sprinter does gpp. every athlete should do it really

conical

there's a hill like that in UCD, unless they've thrown up a building on top of it (which is entirely possible)

it's just by the number 36 on this map http://www.ucd.ie/maps/campusmap05.jpg

-C

joc_06

that map isnt exactly as ucd is from my minds eye but im fairly sure thats the hill i used to use until about a month ago and then they barricaded it off and started digging there.

was it soccer pitches before?
it was perfect as it had lights on the roadway close to it

joejoem

joc_06 wrote:

any place well lit up though for the dark nights comin up?

Killiney Hill wouldnt be lit up well at all, you would be going by the moon light.

conical

joc_06 wrote:

was it soccer pitches before?
it was perfect as it had lights on the roadway close to it

No, i think it's behind where you are thinking of.

If you come in the N11 flyover gate, turn left and follow the road til you have to take the main road (sharp right) or a narrow road (to the left). If you take the left, the driveway brings you up to some dept or other and to the far side of those buildings is the hill.

Havn't been up there in a couple of months and as you know they would build on the crack of your ar$e up there if you stayed still long enough.

There are no lights up that way tho.

Pherekydes

joc_06 wrote:

Im looking for an area around ucd area with about 100m of grass up an approx 30 degree incline.

Tom Tellez (Carl Lewis's coach) suggests a hill of approx 8° for starts and acceleration.

If you have any knowledge of Santry Stadium the grassy bank there has an incline of about 22°, and that is way too steep, unless you're just doing plyometrics.

You won't find a hill of 30° (33%) in or around Dublin, and it would be far too steep anyway.

The Park's your best bet.

Transform

conical wrote:

there's a hill like that in UCD, unless they've thrown up a building on top of it (which is entirely possible)

it's just by the number 36 on this map http://www.ucd.ie/maps/campusmap05.jpg

-C

I was going to suggest the very same one.

Also i use the park in cabinteely all the time, great hills and an amazing playground if you want to stretch and do some chins and dips after

joc_06

there are many schools of thought of the incline of the hill but basically you should aim to leave the blocks at a 45 degree angle to develop correct sprinting stance.
personally i take charlie francis word as gospel and his preference is for 20-30 degree's depending on where the athlete is at of course.
im sure tellez is a good coach but he didnt train the fastest human that ever lived

I'm not sure what plyometrics you are talking about but i would never do any on a hill tbh.

med ball throws on flat, rockets, tucks, lunge jumps on flat too, bounds and skips on flat. i cant think of any plyometric exercise that id practice on a hill

Pherekydes

Allan Wells used to hop up a steep hill.

Many of the Yanky sprinters do stuff up stadium steps, like hops and bounds, and that amounts to the same thing (as a steep hill).

You'll be hard pressed to find a hill over 25%.

And much of Johnson's strength was developed in the weights' room.

joc_06

stadium steps are excellent for sprinters.

Reyman

50m any good ? You'll get it near Milltown Bridge at about 30degrees - west side of bridge in the park maybe 150m away. Lots of flat areas around the general park for the 200m

copacetic

the 3 decent hills in UCD are all fenced off for building at the moment (the 2 in the south fields and the one along the road leading out the south entrance).
They were ideal but not much use now...

don't believe you can expect to find a grassy hill of that incline that is lit up at night..

rubadub

druids glen estate in loughlinstown, massive hills all varying. not sure about lights though

BaZmO*

As I've said before, there's loads of hills in the Phoenix Park. One in particular leads down to the Chapelizoid gate entrance. It's has an incline of over 25° and it has a path down the middle of it that is lit.

B.

thirtyfoot

Don't know about UCD but in Phoenix Park, off chapelizod road (where Upper Glen and Military Road meet, I think) there is an excellant hill running spot. There is a footpath that has lights and you can run beside this, distance maybe 150-200 or more and gradually inclines, not sure of inclination but maybe 20-25 at the top. Room for a looped 200m at the bottom. The top sprint group in Dublin used to do their sprint work here couple years back , and maybe still do.

OFDM

Tingle wrote:

Don't know about UCD but in Phoenix Park, off chapelizod road (where Upper Glen and Military Road meet, I think) there is an excellant hill running spot. There is a footpath that has lights and you can run beside this, distance maybe 150-200 or more and gradually inclines, not sure of inclination but maybe 20-25 at the top. Room for a looped 200m at the bottom. The top sprint group in Dublin used to do their sprint work here couple years back , and maybe still do.

Any chance you could put an "X marks the spot" on the following map excerpt?:

daymobrew

OFDM wrote:

Any chance you could put an "X marks the spot" on the following map excerpt?:

See Chapelizod Gate? The thin (almost) vertical white line is the path.
I think you can park where the thin horizontal meets the road heads off to the left (that's Upper Glen Road btw).

I've attached an edited version of the graphic with the path in red and a 'P' where parking might be possible. Failing that you can probably park just inside Chapelizod Gate, on the path beside the small house there.

Upper Glen Road might be a slightly more shallow angle.
A final group of options in the Phoenix Park, though they might not be lighted: enter at Islandbrige Gate (very near end of South Circular road), go straight through the first junction inside the Park and park there (it's a cul de sac). You can run up the grass banks, up the hills to the left (toward Wellington Monument) or right (toward Magazine Fort) of the junction or up the closed road near where you parked.

Pherekydes

There's no way that path is at anything like 25 degrees.

The steepest part of it is about 15% which is 13.5 degrees.

That being said, it's ideal for sprint training.