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  • 15-08-2005 06:25PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭


    SImple enuf.


    If your on this forum then its safe to assume that you either want to be involved in the film industry or already are.

    So sort of a intro thread why dont you tell us, where along the lines of reaching your goals are you? (Studant, nightcourses, still on the couch etc?)

    Or if your where you want then what part of the industry does your presence grace (PA, Gaffer, Grip, AD, DOP, Director, Editor, Producer etc)




    To get the ball rolling.

    I'm starting my last year of film studies in APU university cambridge. And i have been on numerous film courses in ireland, England and America. Just recently back from both a Cinermatography course and a Editing course in School of Visual Art in New York.

    Aiming for the big thing of Director, but lately been turning towards being an editor, but i'll see where things lead me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    Currently disgracefully inexperienced. At the moment not sure where i want to head in film - written a number of shorts so far, yet to get any to production (thats this years goal) and see how things go from there :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    I studied Radio Broadcasting in the Dun Laoghaire Institute of Art, Design & Technology... I'm not sure what it's called these days as they changed the name of the place 3 times when I was going there and I believe it's changed again since then. Anyway, for some strange reason film history was part of my course. The lectures weren't all that great, mostly just talks about Leni Riefenstahl every week, but I wasn't complaining as it gave me the opportunity to get to know alot of the film students who were also at the same lectures.

    The people studying film at the college generally didn't think very much about sound and it's importance in a film, but at the time that was a speciality of mine. So I worked on a number of projects in post production helping out with the sound, I even worked with Kirsten Sheridan who was studying there at the time.

    I was also keenly interested in the script writing end of things. I've done a few treatments and scripts over the years and even sold a few, but so far none of them have been produced.

    I've always been very involved in the development of community media in Ireland and about 3 years ago I helped to set up a community television production company. Our main goal is to train members of the local community in all aspects of video and television production so that they can create content for Dublin Community Television, which I've also been working with to set up. Mostly what we produce are short documentaries. Most recently we have just completed a short piece about Phill Lynot. But I'd like to see us have a go at doing some more dramatic productions.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,623 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    Im just finished my first year of a Media Studies course.

    The only experience I have is of doing college projects and filming and editing events for my friends and family.

    Don't know what I'd like to do in the future.
    Does anyone know a good source of information on jobs in the Media? Like what an editor or director does from day to day. Work conditions etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Spider_Baby!


    Im a wannabe actor. I think i have talent :D But, i have never worked on a film before,ive absolutely no experience!


    Pssst:if u need anyone, pm me!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    dory wrote:
    Im just finished my first year of a Media Studies course.

    The only experience I have is of doing college projects and filming and editing events for my friends and family.

    Don't know what I'd like to do in the future.
    Does anyone know a good source of information on jobs in the Media? Like what an editor or director does from day to day. Work conditions etc.


    check the resources thread.


    But in film alot of the work is contract based. So as an editor or director you could be working constantly 6am-12 at night for a month or two, then doing nothing until either you get your own next project off the ground or someone offers you work. Conditions will vary from place to place.

    I dont know as much on television but i assume certain positions in it are more consistant then film.


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Been in 4 short films, 1 of which is being entered into the Cork film festival,
    Helped with the Editing of a mock news show for a IADT student,
    and intrested in most aspects of film production.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Lazy Ass Amateur Filmaker/Editor/Cameraman:

    Work: Nothing major a few shorts one feature lenght low budget in the pipeline.

    Experience: Love the tech/editing/avid end of things with a bit of experience in that.

    Writing: Lve doing it have bout 30scrips would hope to get at least a few done sometime!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭mycroft


    I studied film in ballyfermot for two years and took the additional one year BA in media management. Ballyfermot is a good course, and I'm pleased that so many of my classmates are still earning a good living working in the industry in a variety of rolls. I've since picked up a STI and UCLA acredited, Film Assistant Editing, certification.

    After college I arsed around for a while, wrote a feature length script with a former tutor, (shortlisted for the Geffen first time writers award, Shimy Marcus beat us with Headrush so you can imagine how bad our script was)

    I started work as a runner in a large post house in Dublin and was quickly promoted to offline assistant editor, I'd like to think it was my brillance shone through but in truth they were swamped, and needed extra staff. I stayed there for a year, thrown in at the deep end, both a very good and very bad thing.

    I decided I hated working in a facility house and went freelance which is where I've been working on and off for the past four and a half years. I'm an assistant editor. Avid, FCP and I'm one of the few classically trained film assistants left (less than twenty in ireland I'd say).

    I've worked on features (everything from major hollywood blocbusters, to scrappy low budget jobbies) tv drama (some I'm proud of, some ashamed of) and documentaries (from arty jobbies to factual primetime)

    In the interium I've picked up the odd job, director's personal assistant, cameraman for lowbudget tv, and helped set up the odd radical new media collective, y'know, for kicks.

    I've spent some more time working in an Irish post house, but I've recently moved to london as I'm sorry to say, I think the irish industry is at the edge of a very nasty slump.

    I'm currently working in the heady world of news editing, getting to cut at the moment, which makes a nice change of pace for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    I'm the least experienced of the collective. I've been home schooled studying as much as I can. I'm shooting my first short film within the next few weeks when I get back from London. After that, I want to go study - there are a few places that interest me.

    As far as equipment goes, I'm currently working with my own Panasonic AG-DVX100AE 25P dv camcorder along with an audio technica shotgun condenser mic. A modest rig.. My NLE of choice is app 1.5 as I feel most comfortable with it's interface although I have worked with avid xpress pro.

    I'm at the start of a road that ends with lots of hands on experience and education. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭faithy


    i went to colaiste dhuligh ,though it wasnt that useful to me. ive made couple of short films; directed, produced and edited. Still not sure which is my favourite. at the moment im in the process of making a few short films and adverts, im trying to get a showreel together. I'll see what happens after that, hopefully i'll be able to get a job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    faithy wrote:
    i went to colaiste dhuligh ,though it wasnt that useful to me.
    Oh yes... I currently work for Colaiste Dhulaigh... I forgot to mention that. I'm the IT and TV manager for the CDVEC Community Media Project that is funded by the City of Dublin VEC through Colaiste Dhulaigh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭plastic membrane


    Just finished the film and tv degree course in GMIT. Got a job in Limerick to pay the bills and earn some money. Debating whether to go for the Masters in screenwriting at NUIG next year.

    As for experience: just the regular student films gig and a 6 month work experience at Magma Scripting House. I've had a few films in the Galway Film Fleah, only one of which im proud of, the rest were put in so i could get my name in the programme.

    Have a number of proposals ready and waiting to go, and im still hoping to get one short film (with no money) made before the end of the year...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭TheStrandRoads


    Thanks BlitzKrieg for this thread.

    I'm a fully qualified ProTools Opertator. I'd be keen to work on any project in the Post-Production sound area. I'm based in South Dublin.

    For anyone who feels they could use my help, feel free to PM me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 irltankman


    I am a newbie at this whole game, just finished shooting my first short movie (was aiming for 15 mins, came out at tiny 8). Shot the whole thing on a Sony DV camera with a sony gun/zoom mic on the top, disappointed by the sound, would definately try and use a boom next time. Just finished creating the first cut and it looks better than i expected, just have to create a teaser for my friends and then will have a mini premiere here in Galway (bottle of coke, 10 people :) ) in late sept.

    I can say one thing though, it is a hell of alot of work!

    ~Mick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    stickied as a sort of intro thread so we know everyones abilities and desires....(your soul is mine)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Vex Willems


    Hi it's me :D ..anyways i finished three years filmmaking in Cork in May... and am now trying to get some projects off the ground... i wrote my first feature script when i was 15...

    my main interests are in camera/lighting and editing... and trying to develope new ideas

    i own a sony PDx10 and a G5 with FCPHD and more...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    I have absolutely no experience in filmmaking whatsoever. I did a screenwriting course last year and learned pretty much nothing, which is a shame because script writing is something that would interest me.

    Anyways, due to my little experience and also little knowledge about the intricacies of film production I actually don't know if I'd enjoy it at all, but I should be finding out as myself and a group of friends/friends of friends are planning on making a shortish film (about 30 minutes last I knew) next summer. It was originally meant to be happening this summer only we had some major funding difficulties being that none of us are particularly employed and such. So anyway, due to the fact that I'm quite in to photography I was chosen for camerawork and lighting/scene.. framing... (I'm not sure what the word is), so I'd be interested in learning about those particular fields. And.... yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭Fridge


    I was going to study TV & Film in Ballyfermot but I chose another course instead which I dropped out of. Kicking myself now.
    I'm studying in the Open University at the moment, and unfortunately the only thing they have relative to Film is the History of Film and Tv which I'll be doing next year.

    I don't want to be studying for the rest of my life, and I'm not really able for a lot of theory - I'm much more suited to practical learning.
    So I've been looking around at a few courses, and I'm thinking about doing the 1 year Diploma in Film Making at the London Film Academy.
    Does anyone know if it's any good? It'd want to be, for £13,000!

    I don't have any experience in film yet. But I want to write and direct my films. Writing scores would be something I'd be interested in too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭father_ted9t9


    Hi Everyone, I studied film in ballyfermot for two years then headed off to the UK for 2 years. While there i worked as Camera/Edit for ITN News, I was an Avid Editor In MTV/ L!ve TV/ Channel 5 and BBC for a bit, and i did camera on 3 music Videos. When i Returned to Ireland i worked for TV3 News for a bit doing Cameras and Editing, then went to UTV for bit and and i also worked for RTE on a variety of their programmes doing everything from DV Director to Producing. At the Moment i am working Freelance on a couple of TV Shows for the New season on RTE.

    Editing systems which i use are Avid, FCPHD, Media 100 and 844x. I have shot on range of cameras from Betasx/sp/digi right down to the new Sony HD Cameras and XCanon XL1s and XL2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hugh_C


    Hi,

    I've been in the post production industry for a l-o-n-g time.

    I began in Windmill Lane in the area of telecine and maintenance (I have degrees in Maths & Electronics), quickly got bored with that but was in the unfortunate position that I was good at it. Took me about four years to move on to linear online editing, which should have been a pretty technical job, but as it happens I worked under a very talented and inspirational director, Meiert Avis, for whom I cut a shedload of music videos. Great way to learn a trade. So, I was cutting (in online - not the most traditional of places to edit stuff) in Windmill until mid 1992 when I decided that I'd had enough of WLP and they'd had enough of me.

    I realised that a more creative outlet was pure editing (or offline if you must) and I'd had unfulfilled aspirations to get my hands on the emerging nonlinear technology - i.e. Avid. Quit Windmill and started freelancing, which basically meant I worked a bit here in Dublin in commercials, but also in Los Angeles where I cut commercials and more music videos.

    Holywoodland has a different work ethic to western Europe, and it has been both an eye opener and has given some perspective to what I've been at here.

    So yeah, I was self-taught Avid and became proficient quickly enough - I'd already had a lot of experience in front of Macs at this stage. Avid was a breeze and I wasn't sorry to see the back of linear (tape) editing. Spent five or six years commuting to LA from Dublin trying to hold down a profile both here AND there. Not easy. Anyway SWMBO took a serious attack of broodiness and the resultant sprog (daughter No. 1) became the reason I stopped travelling.

    I began working on much longer-form stuff - i.e. documentaries and series pretty much as a freelancer here in Dublin. A lot of stuff in the traditional music area as well as some dance, some more high brow music and classical. I also had a go at directing which was intense. I'm not sure that it's for me, but may have a crack at it again. I find the commissioners not easy to deal with, because as a rookie director you don't get to have final cut, which is of course something I'm used to as an editor.

    In 2000 I took a vagary and joined Pluto, a small vanity shop, sorry, puff piece, sorry post house which did a bunch of flame* and 3D. I learnt flame* with limited success for 18 months or so until the company went bust and all the staff (except me and Juangus) went to work in Screenscene.

    I freelanced a bit more and then was offered a job in The Farm where I'm presently employed. Yes indeedy, a steady wage is a good thing when you have a mortgage and kids. The Farm is going through a bit of an identity crisis at the moment (mycroft will testify) and it remains to be seen what the future holds.

    The industry it completely on its 8rse at the moment, partly because of downward pressure on budgets coming from our illustrious broadcasters, partly from producers' greed and partly because we live in the most expensive country in the known Universe. Production & post production is hard. RTE realise that they can get cowboys to go out and shoot stuff on poxy DV for f*ck all, who'll edit in their kitchen on Premier (I know I know, terrible snob and all that) and send it in on a CD or something. This is a atrocious state of affairs and sadly, the material reflects the budget and skill. Look at "Dinner Party". It is THE most execrable (look it up) piece of sh1t on the box..

    Sorry this is turning into a rant, I'll take it elsewhere...

    Later,

    Huhg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Sorry this is turning into a rant, I'll take it elsewhere...

    no we like rants..any wisdom, even that which is vented through anger (usually the best kind, 'intelligent and emotional').

    You wouldnt know if the atmosphere (downward pressure on budget) is the same in the UK as here?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 981 ✭✭✭tj-music.com


    I studied Digital Media in Tralee in 2003 although I already did editing courses and acted in short films while I was still living in Germany.

    I then added a certificate in Digital Video Production and Broadcasting to my set of skills and in the event of doing that I happened to play a dentist in a short movie.

    I am also a musician with my own little studio. I have produced 9 CDs over the last 15 years and won an award for excellency in songwriting in January this year.

    Furthermore I am currently involved in a FETAC course in Radio Program making and worked as a Station Manager for "Radio Dolphin" in 2004 and "Liber8FM" in 2005.

    "Liber8FM" is back in November on 107,3 FM all over Dublin.

    I would love to do filmmusic, so if anyone is looking for a music score just let me know.

    send an email to: info@tj-music.com and check out the following pages:

    www.tj-music.com
    www.concert-reviews.net

    I am really seious when it comes down to work and I would love to be more involved in film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    Qualifications:
    2001-2004 BA Journalism & Media Communications in GCD (it was more weighted to the journalism side which was disappointing).
    June-July 2004 Certificate Introduction to Film-Making @ London Film Academy. We made two horrible shorts with a group of six, I produced one and directed the other. Luckily I realised how much more I prefer producing, so one less writer/director out there ;)
    2004-2005 MA Film and Television Management & Policy @ University of Ulster. Designed as a vocational course to train producers to enter the UK/NI industry, however, as the first year of the course, it was a little all over the place. Currently doing my dissertation to complete the MA.

    Employment:
    June 2004 - Worked as an intern for Zanzibar Films. Mostly worked on organising press for the premiere of 'Headrush', getting reviewers on board, photographers, sending out promotional material etc.

    Also making short films with a group of similar graduates out of Dublin since June (four under our belt so far with no practically no budgets). They're currently being edited so hopefully they turn out ok.
    Busy with dissertation @ the moment so the hunt for employment has slowed a little. I am going to get driving lessons though, after reading the advice on here. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭faithy


    Employment:
    June 2004 - Worked as an intern for Zanzibar Films. Mostly worked on organising press for the premiere of 'Headrush', getting reviewers on board, photographers, sending out promotional material etc

    Just out of curiousity, how did u apply for an intern for zanzibar films, do u have to be in the union before hand?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭mycroft


    faithy wrote:
    Just out of curiousity, how did u apply for an intern for zanzibar films, do u have to be in the union before hand?

    Nope; A sharp wit and the ability to work for free plus a few good references. Zanizbar are a company that are orgasmic about bargains and they live for interns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭father_ted9t9


    mycroft wrote:
    Nope; A sharp wit and the ability to work for free plus a few good references. Zanizbar are a company that are orgasmic about bargains and they live for interns.

    Like most of the Productioon Companies around, if you are willing to put in the effort!

    Time spent sending cv's and then phoning after to follow up does really work, and i have hired many people on this basis, who have progressed on to bigger things in the company


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Dead Jack


    Just arrived on this forum but since I'm going to be looking for inspiration from you, I figured you might as well know I'm here.

    I'm a budding scriptwriter studying and working alongside BlitzKrieg at APU Cambridge.

    I'm into film 'cause I figured with a little experience I could write films that would be enjoyable both to make and watch.

    It's clearly not that easy as I appear to be failing the degree, but there is a serious silver lining.

    I appear to have a talent as a Producer, and enjoy it almost as much as I enjoy writing dialogue, which is to say, about as much as I enjoy good food (and lets just say I'm hardly skinny).

    We'll just have to wait and see if I know what I'm talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭mycroft


    BlitzKrieg wrote:

    You wouldnt know if the atmosphere (downward pressure on budget) is the same in the UK as here?


    Pick up a copy of todays times mate. Theres a page on the business section on the poor state of the british film industry. Essentially continued quibbling over tax relief has ensured that productions are unwilling to commit to britain. I've been out in both Pinewood and Twickenham recently, and they're virtually ghost towns. And even the government get their finger, yesterday, out it'll be next summer before theres an improvement

    TV wise, with the BBC set to be forced to sell it's post end, you're about to have a flood of some of the best editors and facilities on the market for the first time, making a tough market that little bit tougher.

    On the even lower end of the market, I've definetly found that producers are expecting a lot more for a lot less post wise, and the general dirth of low end systems on the market means they feel they can do a lot more themselves. Salaries for freelancers, and internal staff are down, runners are expected to know a lot more, also, schedules are tighter, more channels means more content and more people feel they can pick up a camera, edit, and shoot everything themselves. I met a junior producer in Ireland recently who didn't know what timecode was, or how many frames are in a second. Mind you, I've met more than one assistant who had trouble understanding that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    cheers for that Mycroft...better rethink taking a post grad back up then.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TCamen


    Just out of curiousity, how did u apply for an intern for zanzibar films, do u have to be in the union before hand?

    I just emailed my CV - they didn't need anyone for production work, but were just kicking into gear with the promotion of 'Headrush', so my details were passed on, and the PR person contacted me then and I met her for an interview then.
    Time spent sending cv's and then phoning after to follow up does really work, and i have hired many people on this basis, who have progressed on to bigger things in the company

    I like to follow up -- nothing worse than not knowing what's going on :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭dramaqueen


    I'm an actress.
    I went to university in wales where I got a BA in Theatre Studies and Film. Then I moved to London to go to drama school at DSL and have just returned home and completed a second postgrad in Performance at the Gaeity. I have been doing mostly theatre but I really want to get into film. I have done a few shorts. So if anyone is looking for an actress PM me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    I studied Film + Television in GMIT. Graduated with a distinction in May 2004.

    Have also done a TV Comedy Writing course with Screen Training Ireland.

    Have done the usual college shorts and have helped out bits and pieces on small things.

    Currently I am directing a GFC/RTE funded short (shooting on Sept 12th) and will be editing an ID Project for the Galway Film Centre at the end of September.

    Have written numerous scripts - have two that are being submitted to Film Board's Short Shorts this year with two seperate production companies in Dublin.

    I have also worked in the Galway Film Fleadh for the past two years and was on the submission panel for shorts this year.

    So really I'm just starting out - loads to learn but I'm optimistic and determined so I think I'll manage to make a living for myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    Hello all,

    Ive been working in post production for about 12 years now and somehow im still enjoying it. I did the obligatory 2 years in ballyfermot (the old TV course, not the new film one). I found that course great for people who want to become operators as they had a very hands on approach compared to the more director/producer-centric courses in dhulaigh and dit.

    After a year or so of trying different things, i got a job as a runner in one of the post houses mentioned above and gained extensive experience in the vital area of tea, coffee and biscuits. If your interested in post production at all, then being a runner/intern is a handy way of getting an introduction to a lot of the things that they dont teach you in college and is a much better way of learning the very basics of how post works than walking in expecting to edit or grade the next johnathan glasier commercial. Like Mycroft, my brilliance as an assistant happened to co-incide with a particularly busy period and i got a gig as an assistant editor. Since this was a post house the type of assisting you do differs dramatically from the classical film assistant type. The days of 1 editor, 1 assistant are long gone since my day sadly (happily i managed to catch the tail end of those days and really enjoyed that system. Working with the lovely Hughchal was a highlight :) ).

    These days, theres 1 assistant to at least 3 editors and the assistants job is basically purely digitising, playing out and housekeeping the avids. Rarely will an assistant know which version of a cut is the "pre-presentation revised directors alt version". The biggest piece of advice i can give to anyone assisting is to make it their business to know as much as possible about an editors cuts without sitting on their shoulder.

    After a year or two of assisting i got a break cutting a corporate video and spent a year or two doing them untill getting a much bigger break and moving on to programmes. I spent about 4 years cutting documentarys, mostly for rte but the odd thing for ch4 and bbc, before getting yet another lucky break and getting to cut a commercial. For the last 3 years or so ive been cutting commercials and enjoying it immensely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭Ajos


    I haven't been hanging out on Boards much recently, and even when I do it's mostly to tell students that doing something to fall back on is pointless and bitch about people shooting theatrical features at 25fps. Like most advice, the truth of it only becomes apparent after it has been ignored. So I probably don't really need to post in this thread.

    But I will anyway. After graduating from DLCAD in 1997 I did an excellent Screen Training Ireland course in being a sound trainee. I worked as a freelance sound editor in Dublin - mostly in Ardmore Sound - from 1998 to 2003. Worked on a bunch of stuff in various capacities: Bachelor's Walk, Tailor of Panama, Random Passage, The Good Thief, Ella Enchanted, Mindhunters, 50% Grey and sundry others.

    In 2003 I got a Green Card in the lottery and moved to NYC. The first thing I realised was that nobody gave a flying fark what I'd done in Ireland. I thought I had a pretty good CV - sorry, resume - but it basically counted for nothing. I knew nobody and had no NYC experience so I couldn't get a break in features. I got by for a while doing a few shorts (people - even students - will actually pay a sound editor over here for shorts!), an ultra low budget feature, one very strange art installation and teaching sound design at the NYFA, but I wasn't really making ends meet.

    After 9 months and moving twice to progressively cheaper apartments I decided to pack it in. And then I got a call to do some dialogue editing for a couple of weeks for Rockstar Games on GTA: San Andreas. It was well paid, and the couple of weeks turned into several months. Eventually they hired me (health insurance!) and I now work there full time as a kind of dialogue asset manager on various games.

    I'm pretty much disengaged from the Irish film industry at this point. The last big job I did there was sound designing Timbuktu, which I'm sure nobody has seen, and I also helped out for a couple of weeks on Boy Eats Girl when I was home for Christmas. I'm working on some writing projects with a couple of Irish directors, so we'll see where that leads. Or at least, I will. You may not.

    New York rocks! Nobody here shoots ANYTHING at 25fps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hugh_C


    Ajos wrote:
    ...and bitch about people shooting theatrical features at 25fps.

    snip...

    New York rocks! Nobody here shoots ANYTHING at 25fps.

    Clonakilty rocks harder, they shoot EVERYTHING at 16fps there.

    Eh, what's your problem with 25fps? Why would anyone shoot stuff at 25fps in New York unless it was for a PAL market? They'd shoot at 24 (or 30. Go figure...

    Bitching about people shooting theatrical features @ 25 is somewhat pointless on Boards because the reason that they're shooting at 25 in the first place is that they don't have the friggin' money to shoot on anything other than tape!

    Shooting movies @ 25 is going to increase if anything with the advent of HiDef. I think we'll all have to learn to live with that.

    hc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭Ajos


    hughchal wrote:

    Shooting movies @ 25 is going to increase if anything with the advent of HiDef. I think we'll all have to learn to live with that.

    hc

    No you don't. HD can shoot at 24. Anyway, I'm very pleased I don't have to have this argument anymore.

    This post notwithstanding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭mycroft


    Ajos wrote:
    No you don't. HD can shoot at 24. Anyway, I'm very pleased I don't have to have this argument anymore.

    This post notwithstanding.


    See Hugh I agree with Ajos and you. The thing with a pure HD workflow at 24fps is the cost. You need a nitris or an adrenaline or a FCP HD system, and more importantly a HD deck. Which costs an absurd amount. Nearly negated the print and telecine costs of shooting 35

    Now seeing as most people shoot HD cause they cannnot afford film, the invarible follow screen scene's post route for HD produced features (hencely refered to as the "bullsh*t" route)

    Screen Scene recommend that you shoot HD at 25fps, and post on Media composer. It's cheap it's cheerful. But oh look, your feature is going to end up 4% longer (ish) when projected. Which is okay on a short but on a feature running over 90m long it can lead to 6 or 7 minutes discrepancy between the avid offline cut and the potential projected 35mm print. So when someone says during the rough cut "hey its good it just needs to lose five minutes", you have to think "Do we lose five minutes on top of the five minutes we'll be losing when it's running at 24fps?"

    The difference in america is moot because you can't get away with the duration change between 29 fps and 24fps, so they have to go whole hog, but over here this cheap and cheerful way of avoiding expense is to my mind anyway causing the detriment of low budget Irish filmmakers, because under this route film makers will have to guestimate the overall running time of their feature and it's current pacing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭Ajos


    And it totally screws up the music. You can adjust the pitch but the tempo is going to be off. Not a big problem for original score, but source music? Forget it. Sounds like cr*p. And you never notice until you see the print for the first time at the festival because you mixed to video too.

    Not that I'm participating in this argument. What would be the point?

    [edit]
    Anyway, no point in hijacking another thread. Here's a link to the last time I brought this up.
    [/edit]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Back on topic...

    I am a painter of the face.... or make-up artist. Whichever you like to call it. Trained in DLIADT doing everything - film, tv, theatre and special effects make-up. Brillant course and I loved it. Since then I've worked on feature films, shorts, student films, theatre productions, commericals, and tv. Worked at a big news network while in Chicago last year. Was great. I'd still be there if it wasn't for stupid visas and that you are meant to work legally! (sssh don't tell anyone!)

    Was working this week on a production being filmed in Galway. So that's finishing now so back to my day job of putting on make-up on people in a shop. The joy!!

    I'm hoping to either get back to America (green card lottery 2007!) or head to Australia and work there as I've a few contacts from a gig I did awhile back. It sometimes can get rather disheartening the lack of jobs but then another production pops up and you just love working on it and decide to keep it up a while longer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Larianne.... What year did you graduate from Dun Laoghaire?

    When I was going to college there I always thought the make up course was a pretty good one... we used to get some amazing comstumes at the Halloween parties anyway...

    I think I got roped into being done up as a women for someones exam up there once. ha..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Larianne.... What year did you graduate from Dun Laoghaire?

    When I was going to college there I always thought the make up course was a pretty good one... we used to get some amazing comstumes at the Halloween parties anyway...

    I think I got roped into being done up as a women for someones exam up there once. ha..

    I was there from 2001-2003. Yes its the best course as it trains you in evrey aspect of make-up. And there's only 20 places every 2 years so there's only a select few of us around!!

    Ah yes, the sex reversal looks. They were great!! Funnily enough neither of my brothers would model for me!! And I offered money and all. The guy that I ended up using was quite shocked with the result... as he looked like his mother!! lol :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Strangely I ended up looking like Lucy Lawless of Xena fame.

    I graduated in 1999.... the college was a far different place when you were there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Strangely I ended up looking like Lucy Lawless of Xena fame.

    I graduated in 1999.... the college was a far different place when you were there.

    You did film, right? *ah I just saw you did radio*Yeah its amazing how a lot of people in the college thought we were a bunch of bimbos (esp. the film dudes in 1st year) but when someone either modelled for us or saw our final exhibition (or needed us for their shorts) they realised how much work we actually put into the course and how time consuming it was. Not saying though that there wasn't one or two bimbos now!! :D

    Ah as a college it was crap - the social life..its too far away and those god dam librarians making your life hell when all you wanna do is take out a book. But the course was great, loved it so I didnt mind the nearly two hour trek it would take me to get there everyday.

    Sorry that's all off topic..... but that's me anyways! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭Ajos


    I graduated in 1997. I believe the college has changed unutterably since then. So, Monkeyfudge, you would have been in first year when I was in third year...

    /edit
    No, sorry, radio, right, my mistake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 aceobrien22


    :D Hi all.
    This is my very first post here and I hope that this site is truly as good as it seems.
    Right a quick bit about me.
    Im a female actor and have been in a few shorts a few commercials and recently a documentry for tv.
    Still trying to get the infamous equity card which will hopefully make things a bit easier.
    I love acting and have been involved in Drama one way or another all my life. I studied speech and drama, was in plays in Uni, studied in L.A and done courses in the Gaeity and the Irish actors studio.
    I get such a buzz from preforming its great!
    Anyway, thats me. Looking forward to getting to know you all and reading your posts.
    Later! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    My interest in filme start when I was 14 and I attend the Young Irish Film Makers in Kilkenny. I worked as a camera assist,post production Sound mixer and digitiser on an Avid 8000 for Under the Hawthorn Tree.

    I went to college in Carlisle in the UK, did a BA in Media Production receiving a 2:1. After that I went straight into a traineeship with the BBC, which I am 13 months into. I'm training to be a Post Production assistant. Hopefully in 3 year's I'll be editing. I have one year left on my traineeship and all is going well so far.

    John


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭miju


    i run my own visual company that does live visuals for bands at gigs (of the footage on the stage to the big screen variety) also film band videos / documentaries for DVD and TV release


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭lilmissprincess


    Saturday Course, 10-12.30 in the local Theatre, the guy doing it is lovely, best laugh I've ever had, only seven in the group.
    We've made two shorts and done all edits, now just waiting on teh grand premiere.
    Possibly doing a followup one next year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ZZ Topless


    Hi,
    Right now I'm studying a media studies degree course and had started out hoping to get into TV production...
    I've found new interests since I started tho, and am looking into scriptwriting and radio broadcasting - but TV production would be my main thing still.

    I've worked mainly on college projects but have had the chance to work as a runner on unrelated jobs. Would love to have that type of work out of the way when I finish up and have a showreel to flash around.
    Anyway, that's pretty much it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭6ix


    Hi,

    I'm currently in my final year of a Multimedia degree, finishing in June. Last year I had 6 months work placement, where I worked as a runner in a post production house, working on sound and video.

    Since then, I'm back at college and working part time digitizing/assistant editor. It's given me lots of experience, I know I've been lucky to get the work.

    Hoping to get work in a post production house when I'm finished in June, but I don't know how that'll go.


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