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Harry Potter #6??

  • 01-08-2005 10:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭


    so guys,
    what did y'all think? i just finished it there this evening cos it was too hard to try and read it in CTYI cos i always felt so antisocial!!
    i thought it was a good plot but went nowhere,
    cursed Snape!! i always hated him...
    *shakes fist and glowers at Snape*


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭Outcast


    I thought it was quite poorly written but I'm glad that she took the hard line at the end. I still think the Snape thing needs to be explained more and now we can't fin out DD reason for trusting him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15 Lizzie


    i thought it was more like the first half of a book as opposed to a whole plot etc.
    it just didn't do anything for me; didn't love it, didn't hate it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭Chowburger


    I'm still of the opinion that she should've stopped writing the books around the time of Prisoner of Azkaban, 'cause they're getting progressively worse as they go, and just seem like a mish-mash of whatever came into her head while she was writing.

    (And this isn't from a skeptic, I'm a big fan of the series. Usually.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭Shiney


    it was ok. not the best harry potter, but it did leave me dying to know what happens next...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 synge


    got it the night it came out in Galway (when I was still over the ocean and not in my country) and finished it in 4 days (would have been sooner but for the Aran Islands and me having to navigate around the west for my dad). It was sad, not really much about the school year, left me really wanting to read the next book. just wasn't as well written as some of the others.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭Shiney


    i wonder if she's gonna do more than 7 books cause of the twist at the end bout what harry's doing next (i won't say any more)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    God, the romance thing was so frustrating, all of them,. Book would have been better if she'd left it all out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭Shiney


    yeah. there's much less about magic.that why i prefer the earlier ones. its kinda going off course on the whole wizarding aspect


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Jade Chihuahua


    In general Ilike the series, the fifth one was crap but she managed to redeem herself slightly with this one, but I wish she'd stop dancing around and just hurry up and introduce the Damn Pirates already!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Flashling


    Hunted it down in english, in barcelona, and finished it same day. Not that it was unputdownable, but it was that or face my family (ah, they're alright, really)....eh, not the best book ever, but sure not the worst...(damn you novelisation of the third pokemon movie!) (read because I am a cultural masochist) (I like brackets)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭Outcast


    I thought there was no explanation for how things happend. She just said "Hey this would be cool to have" and stuck it in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 110 ✭✭the_only_Ali


    Well it was better than the 5th one, but only slightly. I think a lot more explanations are needed, as Outcast said. I thought the ending was very... attention-grabbing, but it left me with the impression that that was relly the only reason it was there. To grab our attention. Similar to the ending of Book 5, almost. But it did end with much potential for very intriguing events to happen, so lets hope she doesn't mess it up!
    No, I shouldn't say that. The first 4 books were great. Perhaps I'm just outgrowing them or something. I'll read them anyway, just to see what happens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭Outcast


    I think we're all getting too old. We were the original target market but she's dawdled so much over writing the last three that people are outgrowing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    The problem is that she wrote the books for a target market, but because she's doing one a year covering a year she has to age the characters. But the target market is always the same age, and we know she's screwing it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    So yeah ive never read a harry potter in my life. Seen snippets of the movie. Sue me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Spog


    I personally don't mind the whole going-off-magic storyline, because in the end it's the same ol' good v evil storyline anyway... one almost expects voldemort at the very end to say (as Harry is about to deal the final blow) ... "I am your father". This book was a ton load better than the last one; while nothing on the greather scheme of things was happening up til the very end there was much more going on than all through the last one - the intrigue regarding snape and malfoy, the blossoming romances, the discovery of voldemort's past, what are horcruxes, and of course, who is the half-blood prince?

    Any theories as to the next book's plot? and will there be more than seven now, given the turn of events?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭meeka


    I thought it was okay.. but like the fifth book, when I had finished I kinda went, "hold on, what have I just read?" but yeah, I really hope everything's explained in the last book


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭Outcast


    I really hopes she kills Harry. It dosen't make sense that he beats a wizard millions of times stronger than him then sails off into the sunset with Ginny. Obviously he's going to kill Voldemort with love but I think they should both die coz of their freaky connection thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 staaap


    i've got it all worked out:
    -james and snape are brothers.
    -R.A.B. is Regalus Black.
    -Ginny will commit incest and run away with one of the highly annoying twins.
    -that wasn't Dumbledore.Dumbledore died 16 years ago.The man posing as Dumbledore was in fact James.he had been taking polyjuice potion.
    -Fawkes is Lily.


    i actually quite enjoyed the book actually, a hell of a lot better than book2 or 5.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭Adesina


    staaap wrote:
    i actually quite enjoyed the book actually, a hell of a lot better than book2 or 5.

    I concur, it was better than books 2 and 5 but only by a bit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭Outcast


    That R.A.B. is Regalus thing actually makes sense. And yes I know he's dead but that needn't mean anything


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭doonothing


    sigh. and we fools who are on pg 200 and stumble onto this thread...
    where's the spolier thingies???
    (as if i wouldnt have read the anyways)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Jack Lynch


    did anyone else completely forget about the fifth book while reading the new one and start wondering about a hell of a lot of stuff halfway through? I bet the bookshop in Santry were delighted when, the day the new Harry Potter comes out, CTYI comes for a visit. Ching, ching!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Joycey


    RAB is Regulus Black, The barman at the Hogs Head is Dumbledores brother Aberforth and finally... Snape is really a goodie... I found this so obviously poking through all the way through the book... At the end the only time Dumbledore pleads is when Snape walks through the door... DD was pleading with Snape to finish him and stick to the plan... We heard that Hagrid had overheard a conversation between DD and Snape where DD was making Snape promise to go through with DDs orders no matter what... There was also the part where DD froze Harry on purpose more to stop him from intervening then to keep him from harm.

    There is so much evidence to say that Snape is really on DD side I cant believe no one else sees it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Jack Lynch


    Look away if you haven't finished the book.














    Then why did Snape kill DD?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭emptyspoon


    Yeah, Snape is on DD's side, because DD knew he'd die anyway because he took the potion. This is proved when Harry reads the parchment from the locket. It says that RAB would be dead by the time Voldemort read it, showing that he also knew the potion would kill him.
    I think this might just have been my favourite book. There was just soo uch scandel and all the revelations! Twas' like reading an copy of Heat except with people you actually like. Although Hermione is really getting on my nerves. "Blah blah don't do this, blah blah not a good idea, blah blah nobody loves me" ALL THE TIME!
    I didn't think HP5 was THAT bad. Loved how big it was, it just kept going and going, and I can never have enough Harry Potter.
    Will always have a soft spot in my heart for HP1, and of course, everyone (else's) favourite, HP3.
    Now only another two years till HP7!!! *starts queueing*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭COCK


    Yes Snape is so obviously not evil. Dumbledore definitely knew the potion would kill him, and he was also aware of the unbreakable vow between snape and narcissa malfoy. He was pleading with snape to follow through with the plan, which would be for snape to kill dumbledore, though his demise was imminent anyway (the potion), if snape had not killed dumbledore, snape would have died, because it was clear that draco was not going to kill dumbledore (the unbreakable vow).

    In the seventh book, i think aberforthe (dumbledores brother) will become really important (why else would he be mentioned at all). Also, now that snape has killed dumbledore, hell be voldomorts right hand man, even though hes still good. Ron and Hermione are going to make tons of babies, and harrys dropping out of school.

    Did anyone else notice at the end of the book that it opened up for more and more books, because harrys gotta find all the horcruxes and kill voldomort?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Jack Lynch


    Ron and Hermoine. Those would be ugly children. And Ron seems a bit on the flamboyantly homosexual side. Ron and Harry, though. No ugly children to worry about there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    Not going to happen though, since Harry's riding his sister


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 TryMe


    True, although tha could have made the story a lot more intersteing. The Catholic Church is already calling it evil, you might as well keep going. I didnt think it was as good as the earlier ones, the thing with Ron and hermione has been going on since Day 1, could she please hurry up and kill them off or something???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Hobotastic


    I thought the transition from bitter and angry Ron and Hermione to friendly lovey-buddies Ron and Hermione was terrible. If all it takes is one little poisoning... pfft. Anyone could do it.

    Did anyone else notice, on page 585, on the 8th line, that the word "ejaculated" is used as a verb of speaking?

    How very, very odd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    Yeah, i laughed at that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭Adesina


    Hobotastic wrote:
    I thought the transition from bitter and angry Ron and Hermione to friendly lovey-buddies Ron and Hermione was terrible. If all it takes is one little poisoning... pfft. Anyone could do it.

    Did anyone else notice, on page 585, on the 8th line, that the word "ejaculated" is used as a verb of speaking?

    How very, very odd.

    Hehe, I hadn't noticed that. Wonder what J. K. was thinking about when she wrote that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭Chowburger


    Hobotastic wrote:
    Did anyone else notice, on page 585, on the 8th line, that the word "ejaculated" is used as a verb of speaking?
    Yeah, she did that in one of the other books too, in the wonderful phrase that was, "... Ron ejaculated loudly." I figure she's just doing it for kicks :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭COCK


    I think slughorns a bit of a child molestor, he has his little clubs, and hes always giving mead to kids.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭Adesina


    COCK wrote:
    I think slughorns a bit of a child molestor, he has his little clubs, and hes always giving mead to kids.

    I concur


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Hobotastic


    Heh, I suppose, if i was writing books for kids, I'd probably slip in random long words that they wouldn't understand and that actually mean something quite adult too. Like ejaculated, or menstruated, or sodomy or something. It'd be funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Jade Chihuahua


    I have to agree with the whole Snape is good thing, DumbleDore was going to die anyway, but if Snape hadnt done it, They'd lose their only spy as well.
    Theory-I didnt come up with this by the way, but it makes so much sense when you think about. Betcha Harry is a Horcrux, that explains the whole being marked as Voldemorts equal thing, coz they both have an equal amount of Voldemorts soul, the thing about Voldemort taking such an interest in the prophecy and how he picked personal things to be Horcruxes, why and really anything you can find relating to his history etc. Think about it.

    Hehehe, "ejaculated"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭THEZAPPA


    i liked this book!
    i read it in 3 and a half hours....
    i wonder what the next and final harry potter book will be like??????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    It's be a nice twist, but the fact remains that Voldy planned on killing Harry. Was he gonna use Harrys Corpse?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭THEZAPPA


    yeh should be a good twist!
    either harry or volt is going to die,maybe harry will so she wont have to write any more books on harry potter!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Jade Chihuahua


    Raphael wrote:
    It's be a nice twist, but the fact remains that Voldy planned on killing Harry. Was he gonna use Harrys Corpse?

    Did Voldemort ever actually say he was going to kill Harry? As I recall, he stopped his Death Eaters from killing Harry in the fourth book, and he insisted on using Harry to restore him (possibly because Harry contained his essence), Harry gained parseltongue and the ability to see through Voldemorts eyes. All the evidence points to him being a horcrux. And also Ron is gay, and will run away with Dobby in the next book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Disharmony


    But if Harry's a Horcrux, why is Volemort trying to kill him?(eg in book four) Surely he would try to protect his Horcrux; he guarded all of the others, why would he be trying to kill Harry Horcrux? Could he have made Harry a Horcrux by accident when he cursed him? This seems to be the only way he could have done it, since he had no chance to apart from that. If Harry is a Horcrux, he'll have to kill himself to make Voldemort mortal... making a cheesy "I sacrifice myself for the greater good" ending.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Jade Chihuahua


    Voldemort might have only taken Harry to use his blood for the potion in book four, chances are he knew about the whole brother wands thing (another link between Harry and Voldemort), so he knew he wouldnt kill Harry, but was just trying to stall him so the Death Eaters could capture him and stop him from telling the world about Voldemorts return. Since the prophecy said that one of them had to die, if Voldemort made Harry a Horcrux, he'd have to be the one to die, ensuring Voldemorts survival.That could also explain why Voldemort was so weakened after he cursed Harry as a baby, no-one had ever used so many Horcruxes before, that could be what weakened him so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,880 ✭✭✭Raphael


    *sigh*

    Voldemort was weakened because he tried to kill Harry and the curse rebounded and hit him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭Starbabe


    HELP ME!!
    I'm not allowed to read the book until my little bro has finished it, and he's very slow. I got to page 60 before he noticed. Make him hurry up!!!
    I like the theories though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,198 ✭✭✭✭Crash


    here - check this - it'll help you get by your harry addiction til you can read it....

    http://www.tshirthell.com/dumbledore.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭lilmissprincess


    My situation exactly. however I took advantage of a library card..hes still on p125


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Jade Chihuahua


    Raphael wrote:
    *sigh*

    Voldemort was weakened because he tried to kill Harry and the curse rebounded and hit him
    The only characetr who really knows what happened is Voldemort, and its not as if he'd actually tell Harry that he made him into a horcrux, if the rest of the wizarding world knew what Voldemort had really been doing, they would have found a way to release Harry. Before you got to the end of the third book, you "knew" that Sirius Black was a murderer and Peter Pettigrew was dead, but if you look at the evidence along the way, it points to what was really the case. Look at the evidence pointing to the horcrux theory; besides what Ive given you already;Harry was going to be put in Slytherin, lets not overlook his growing temper, Harry has overcome every obsatcle in his path throughout the series, but he's never been able to beat Voldemort(because they're equals?), the way he naturally leads those weaker or more stupid than him. Look at the clues, ignoring what you already "know" and you might see that Harry could very easily be a Horcrux after all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭Jade Chihuahua


    All Harry remembers about what happened is a flash of green light, that could just as easily be a Horcrux spell as Avada Kedavra.....think about it.


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