Wow. This is unbelievably scary.

AARRRGH

This is very serious and I don't know what to do.

My flatmate is a girl from Germany. I have known her for about 2 - 3 years. I would not consider us to be friends, but we know each other very well. If you met her you would think she is very friendly and nice. She seems very innocent. Like a bit of a dumb blonde. She smiles and laughs a lot. She makes a good first impression (particularily if you are male, she will laugh at all your jokes and think you are great.)

Living with her I have gotten to know the real her. She is very unhappy and unstable. She is UNBELIEVABLE selfish. She is the kind of person who will **** your husband, and not care WHATSOEVER that you are her best friend. She is immorally ****ed.

She is also HIV+. Since I have known her, she has ****ed about 200 - 300 men in Dublin. Yes this is a few a week. She is in her 30's, so this means she has ****ed AT LEAST 1000 men.

The sicker thing is, she is not using condoms. I only recently discovered about her HIV issues, but I remember about a year ago asking her, "Why are you sleeping with all these men? It is not making you happy" (it wasn't) and I thought it bizarre and quite sick to be having so much sex. The poor guys. They had no idea what they were getting into (she gives the impression she never has sex - also, she is quite unattractive.)

Anyway, I asked her why is she ****ing so many guys. She told me, "Because I hate men. This is my way of getting revenge."

At the time I thought nothing of this - in fact, it made no sense to me. ****ing a guy is giving him what he wants!!

But now that I know her HIV status it makes complete sense to me. She is trying to infect as many guys in Dublin as possible.

I am so disgusted and terrified by this. I really do not know what to do.

My question is: if I tell the police, will they (and more importantly) CAN THEY do anything about this?

PLEASE HELP! I need to act on this fast.

P

More here: http://www.staff.ie/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68

What I don't understand is why this guy didn't do something a long time ago. What a sick whore. ****ing unbelievable.

Thank **** I've never been with a German girl!!!!!!!!!

KdjaCL

Think its attmepted murder or some sort of manslaughter charge.


Not too bright this young lad altho possibly a troll.


kdjac

Tar.Aldarion

''Thank **** I've never been with a German girl!!!!!!!!!''

er...:rolleyes:

anyway note to self...easy...girl...dublin


anyway that is awful yes and i hope to god my new roommate isnt like her this yr!

AARRRGH

KdjaC wrote:

Think its attmepted murder or some sort of manslaughter charge.


Not too bright this young lad altho possibly a troll.


kdjac

Yeah I think I would've done something a long time ago!

It's in Dublin though.

With the amount of sex that goes on it this city, this girl could start causing some big problems.

I'm shocked!

Pongo

snopes.com

Nightwish

are you sure this is true? If there was a sudden HIV epidemic in the city would the Health Authorities not have noticed by now? Well time will tell if it is true......

reminds me of the HIV "scandal" down in Co Waterford a few years ago where a priest claimed that there were a number of young men in the locality after being purposly infected by an English woman. But it all turned out to be bullsh!t

AARRRGH

Pongo wrote:

snopes.com

Rather than assuming this is a hoax, I think I'll take it seriously thank you very much!

Ugh. Creepy.

monkeyfudge

It's sounds like total bull to me.

A few years ago a priest got in trouble for telling almost the exact same story from his pulpit. He freaked alot of people out and then refused to be drawn on the details.

AARRRGH

Yes it might be bollox.

But there are a lot of psychos out there.

It could be true.

(puts on condom now just in case.)

Pongo

Well, assuming it's real and being careful is probably a wise thing as you say dublindude, but it really does stink of total bull. It's like the rapist in the back seat of the car at the gas station e mail if you ask me.... Also it was originally posted by a new user on that forum, whose only 3 posts on the forum were about this 'story'.....
Still, better safe than sorry... Probably going to be some very confused German women around town the next few nights...

Mossy Monk

Nightwish wrote:

reminds me of the HIV "scandal" down in Co Waterford a few years ago

i remember it well

i have heard the same story in the original post loads of times, variations include Cork, London, Sydney, Dublin ...... pretty much everywhere

Endurance Man

WOW :eek: , this is the craziest thing iv ever heard. Im just wondering why people would make sumting like this up , wat do they have to gain. Im rather shocked by this. I no in africa the men think that if they have hiv and they sleep with many virgins it will cure them, but i dont think thats what this chick is about.
Crazy stuff

the_syco

Meh. If I found out if a chick knowingly gave me AIDS, HIV, etc, I'd track them down and kill them.

Simple as.

Endurance Man

Meh. If I found out if a chick knowingly gave me AIDS, HIV, etc, I'd track them down and kill them.

Simple as.

I think the thought would cross my mind, and then i would realize that it doesnt really solve anything, only creates more problems :rolleyes: .

Mossy Monk

if someone knowingly gives someone else a death sentance then by all means they deserve to be beaten to a pulp

dawballz

Endurance Man wrote:

I think the thought would cross my mind, and then i would realize that it doesnt really solve anything, only creates more problems :rolleyes: .

Am, no, you're wrong.. It would prevent her from giving AIDS to other people, hence save lives.

RotalicaV

Iceman gets his revenge..

Esel

dublindude wrote:

...What I don't understand is why this guy didn't do something a long time ago. ...

What I don't understand is why you think the person who made the post you quoted is a guy? And no, I didn't bother reading your link.

Victor

Nightwish wrote:

are you sure this is true? If there was a sudden HIV epidemic in the city would the Health Authorities not have noticed by now? Well time will tell if it is true......

Not everyone gets a regular HIV test. HIV takes time to be noticeable. AIDS can take years to present itself.

FX Meister

Complete crap, how can anyone take this seriously.

Hobbes

If this is real then what she is doing is purposely threatening the lives of people. I'm pretty sure the cops can do something.

The snopes article actually points to known cases of this happening.

fun bus

still, it IS the best "scare kids into safe sex" story i've ever heard

Gone West

Test cases have been taken (almost all successful) against this sort of thing in Holland, USA, Britan and zambia. These are just the ones I know of. I'm sure theres more.
IIRC, the guy in zambia got 15 years, one girl in the US got life and the dutch guy got 30 months.

Kernel

FX Meister wrote:

Complete crap, how can anyone take this seriously.

Yepp, it sure is a load of crap. It's funny how many automatons will believe in any good yarn though!

Nosh*tsherlock

Well not quite the same but this girl got 2 years! So it does happen!

From the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4694595.stm

BBC Website wrote:

Woman infected partner with HIV

A 20-year-old woman has been convicted of infecting her boyfriend with HIV during sex, knowing she had the infection.
Cardiff Crown Court heard the woman, who cannot be named to protect the man's identity, had sex with him for 10 months knowing she was HIV positive.

She admitted unlawfully inflicting grievous bodily harm and was sentenced to two years' youth detention.

The court was sent a letter by the man who said his life had been ruined.

The court heard that she had lied to her partner when he asked her if she carried the infection.

'Blatant lie'

The woman - who was 18 at the time of the offence and had had HIV since the age of 15 - said she did not tell him because she feared that if she told him, he would leave her.

The court heard the couple had protected sex after they met in a nightclub in September 2002, but stopped using condoms when they moved in together shortly afterwards.

They split up early in 2004 because he suspected she was sleeping with other men, and he then began hearing rumours about her HIV status, the court was told.

He confronted his ex-girlfriend but, said Andrew Jones, prosecuting, "she blatantly lied to him and told him not to be so stupid".

The court heard she showed him a report which said that she was not HIV positive, but the man now believes it was doctored to show a negative result.

She had, in fact, known she was HIV positive since June 2003, the court was told.

'First proper girlfriend'

The man discovered he was HIV positive 10 days before Christmas 2004 after undergoing tests.

In a letter read to the court, the man said: "I now have to live with being infected with HIV for the rest of my life.

"I will never forget the day I went to the clinic with my father and my brother and they told me I was HIV positive. I can never forgive her for what she has done and the terrible pain my family is going through.

"My mum didn't like her from the start but I was 18 years old and she was my first proper girlfriend and I had to learn from my own mistakes. And learn I did - the hard way."

After her arrest, the woman told police she had heard it was difficult for a man to catch the infection from a woman.

In a letter which was also read out in court, the woman told the man: "I know I hurt you but I didn't know how to tell you. I'm really, really sorry.

"I just didn't want to believe I had HIV. I was 15 when I slept with a boy but I thought it was love.

"I just hoped and prayed you wouldn't catch it. I know it was a horrible thing to do."

In sentencing the woman, Judge Llewellyn Jones told the woman: "In my judgement, what you did to that man is so serious that only a custodial sentence can be justified."

cournioni

the_syco wrote:

Meh. If I found out if a chick knowingly gave me AIDS, HIV, etc, I'd track them down and kill them.

Simple as.

I totally agree.

MorningStar

The likelyhood of this being true is so slim. Stories similar have been floating around for so long. THis story also has some weird detail like the fact they aren't friends yet live together for so long. The person found out they were HIV by what means? If they have kept the secret for so long how would they suddenly find out. The never noticed the medication the girl was taking for how long?
Now that they know they still haven't done anything. It truely is an ubelievable story probably posted up by a bored teenager who gets there laughs at people. Urban legend to the end.

WhiteWashMan

always cover up, no matter what...

Zapho

Sounds pretty similar to those emails about people leaving infected needles in coin return systems, in cinema seats etc.
Sounds a bit silly in fairness, I mean 1000 guys? I doubt even hookers have had that many partners.

TerrorFirmer

fun bus wrote:

still, it IS the best "scare kids into safe sex" story i've ever heard

SO true.

MorningStar

Fun Bus wrote:

still, it IS the best "scare kids into safe sex" story i've ever heard

MobileInfantry wrote:

SO true.

Not really as it has some slight racist and sexist tones to it by saying she is German and hates men. It is also not true (most likely) and misinformation from adults to youth adds mistrust to a general sceptic crowd.
There are loads of those christian nuts in the US that spread lies and exagerated stories to keep their children virgin. I remember there was christian group running around putting stickers on condom machines here. The stickers claims the AIDs virus was so small that it could go through a condom. That's simply a lie for a means and I see no difference from this kind of story.

Spreading ignorance is one of the most disgusting things I can think of. :mad:

thelordofcheese

fun bus wrote:

still, it IS the best "scare kids into safe sex" story i've ever heard

I though it was the lesser known "scare kids into not sleeping with germans" story...

LegacyUser

sounds like bs.

people who knowingly do this should be boiled alive.

Kernel

MorningStar wrote:

I remember there was christian group running around putting stickers on condom machines here. The stickers claims the AIDs virus was so small that it could go through a condom. That's simply a lie for a means and I see no difference from this kind of story.

Spreading ignorance is one of the most disgusting things I can think of. :mad:

Yeah but the jury is still out on HIV passing through condoms, indeed the conclusions from a recent Panorama programme conclude that while condoms are great for reducing the risk of HIV transmission, they are not 100% effective either. Looks like the safest sex is long term monogomous relationship sex.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3845011.stm

shellby

ok even though i agree it does sound like absiloute tripe in the tiney tiny chance that's its true call the gaurds
if it's not then you should be "boiled alive" just like the person who delibately infects others because you are delibrately creating a false and vicious stagmatism aroud those who have contracted HIV and are responsible about their need to inform their partners and wear protection

BizzyC

Scary thought, dont think it's serious though.

Good way of getting people thinking about using contraception more though.

MorningStar

Kernel wrote:

Yeah but the jury is still out on HIV passing through condoms, indeed the conclusions from a recent Panorama programme conclude that while condoms are great for reducing the risk of HIV transmission, they are not 100% effective either. Looks like the safest sex is long term monogomous relationship sex.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3845011.stm

Sorry what are you saying? The Jury isn't out the whole article is about how the cardinal's statement is at the least misleading and reliant on dodgy data and experiments. Condoms are not 100% safe has always been known and said. Condoms reduce the risk has always been said. Sex with a person with HIV doesn't actually mean you will catch the virus you are more likely to catch it if youare the woman. One of the reasons Hiv/AIDs is spreading so much in Africa is the sex practices. Things like using bark in the sex act tears vaginal tissue and penis tissue sharing blood making the virsu travel easier. The strangle hold the catholic church has in the country makes matters worse.

I don't know everything about Hiv but it isn't a death sentence and people can live happy productive lives.

jptk

hmm..even if its not true, it could happen. Think about it, someone gets hiv from unprotected sex or whatever and is (naturally) extremely pissed about it and tries to take as many people with them as possible. There are some sick people around and this wouldnt suprise me

vibe666

i have a dead cousin because of someone doing that exact same thing.

he was a young gay man who got into a relationship with someone who it turned out had gotten aids and decided to take it out on a few people by passing it on.

they guy died before anything could be done to him about it though.

and now my cousin is dead. he was 28 when he died over ten years ago, the same age i am now.

probably not a true story from the OP (whether he knows it or not) but still possible.

and you know loose ugly birds always get laid, so it only takes one cold bitter bunny boiler to make it reality, and there's no shortage of those either.

Robbo

I'm inclined not to believe this becaus it's only on the internet. However, if it had arrived to me through a FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD email, then I'd believe it because I was once ultra-FWD'd an good luck email and I couldn't forward it there and then because I was busy in the office, I thought I'd leave it till Monday. That weekend, I crashed my car.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to dissolve a side of beef in Coca Cola.

MorningStar

You catch Hiv and it may develop into AIDs AFAIK.

Wez

fun bus wrote:

still, it IS the best "scare kids into safe sex" story i've ever heard

Seriously is, I'm defo gonna wrap up from now on.. This is the second good reason I've heard to wear one..

seamus

MorningStar wrote:

Not really as it has some slight racist and sexist tones to it by saying she is German and hates men.

Lol. :rolleyes:
I think the point here is not sexism nor racism, rather to improve the allure of the thing. There are two completely obvious elements to this story; The devil, and the devil's curse. The devil is the woman. She's a smiley, foreign blond woman, who sleeps around with men. The devil dresses himself in very alluring clothing. Ask any single man whether he'd have any qualms about sleeping with some random, happy, young blonde German woman, and he'll say no. The reasons for using a German woman in this story are obvious, and they're not "isms". The other element is the curse, the virus.

It's an obvious "scare them into wearing protection story", and tries to make you believe that there are now 1000 men walking around Dublin, unknowingly infected with HIV. This is meant to scare women into vigliance. The fact is that (if this actually happened), only 1 or 2, at most a handful of the men she slept with, actually became infected. Statistics on infection likelihood are surprisingly sparse or incomplete (I guess it's not something you can test in a lab), but it's generally accepted that infection rates for men having sex with HIV+ women is that about half of that for most other groups (probably due to the lack of female-male fluid transfer).

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=73514

Spreading ignorance is one of the most disgusting things I can think of. :mad:

Absolutely. Terrorism in a different form.

jor el

Wez wrote:

Seriously is, I'm defo gonna wrap up from now on..

You mean you haven't already?

This story is obviously a fabrication, but in my opinion, anyone who has unprotected sex with a complete stranger after just meeting them deserves anything they might get from it. The sad truth is that Irish people in general are so stupid and ignorant of the dangers that they believe the absolute worst thing that can happen is she'll get pregnant.

MadPatrick

jor el wrote:

You mean you haven't already?

This story is obviously a fabrication, but in my opinion, anyone who has unprotected sex with a complete stranger after just meeting them deserves anything they might get from it. The sad truth is that Irish people in general are so stupid and ignorant of the dangers that they believe the absolute worst thing that can happen is she'll get pregnant.

You sir, are a baboon!!! That is such a stupid and short sighted thing to write. Someone gets drunk to the point of having sex without a condom and they deserve to die in an extremely long, painful and humiliating way??
You just wished AIDS on me and I'm sure the majority of Ireland.
We all know the dangers but sometimes we do stupid things, like having unproteced sex or writing stupid posts saying people deserve AIDS.

Kiera

jor el wrote:

You mean you haven't already?

This story is obviously a fabrication, but in my opinion, anyone who has unprotected sex with a complete stranger after just meeting them deserves anything they might get from it. The sad truth is that Irish people in general are so stupid and ignorant of the dangers that they believe the absolute worst thing that can happen is she'll get pregnant.

Here here ^^^^^^^^^^^^ *claps hands*

Kernel

MorningStar wrote:

Sorry what are you saying? The Jury isn't out the whole article is about how the cardinal's statement is at the least misleading and reliant on dodgy data and experiments. Condoms are not 100% safe has always been known and said. Condoms reduce the risk has always been said.

Well, quoting the end of the article:

"The conclusion

Condoms can significantly cut the risk of HIV infection, but are not perfect or foolproof."

So what I'm saying is that your previous statement of the claim that the HIV virus can sometimes pass through a condom as being bull****, is not in fact bull****. There is a chance that it can happen. A very low chance, but a chance nonetheless.

MorningStar wrote:

One of the reasons Hiv/AIDs is spreading so much in Africa is the sex practices. Things like using bark in the sex act tears vaginal tissue and penis tissue sharing blood making the virsu travel easier. The strangle hold the catholic church has in the country makes matters worse.

I agree with you about the sex practices of many African people (particularly wearing condoms made from animal intestine, which you can see in the article are definitely porous, and the virus can definitely pass through them). However, the usual Catholic Church bashing argument is completely wrong. If the Catholic Church had such a 'strangle hold' on Africans, then they wouldn't have sex before marriage, have multiple wives or commit adultery - therefore, if they followed the teachings of the Catholic Church the rate of HIV infection would be much much less.

MorningStar wrote:

I don't know everything about Hiv but it isn't a death sentence and people can live happy productive lives.

Getting tested every 6 months / 12 months to see if one has developed full blown AIDS, monitoring the immune system after simple flus and infections, not being able to have children, and not being able to have a safe and sexual relationship with a partner is not my idea of a happy life!

joejoem

MadPatrick wrote:

You sir, are a baboon!!! That is such a stupid and short sighted thing to write. Someone gets drunk to the point of having sex without a condom and they deserve to die in an extremely long, painful and humiliating way??
You just wished AIDS on me and I'm sure the majority of Ireland.
We all know the dangers but sometimes we do stupid things, like having unproteced sex or writing stupid posts saying people deserve AIDS.

Yeah why dont we send people who have unprotected sex with a stranger over to Iraq with a sign saying I hate Muslims. Everyone makes mistakes, and when alcahol is involved people are even more prone. The above statement irritates me, its like a judgment on young girls that got pregnant and were sent to the magdeline sisters.

MorningStar

Kernel wrote:

"The conclusion

Condoms can significantly cut the risk of HIV infection, but are not perfect or foolproof."

So what I'm saying is that your previous statement of the claim that the HIV virus can sometimes pass through a condom as being bull****, is not in fact bull****. There is a chance that it can happen. A very low chance, but a chance nonetheless.

Did you read the same article. Every experiment the cardinal was using was very questionable. Condoms have never been 100%. I never said bull anything just that misleading information. It is not true to say the risk of a condom is the ability for a virus to travel through the latex in a condom because it is so small. The risk is the same as the amount of protection failure risk. Condoms have never ever claimed to be 100% protection about catching HIV. It is intentional fear being spread over another risk of using condoms. The risk has not changed.

Kernel wrote:

If the Catholic Church had such a 'strangle hold' on Africans, then they wouldn't have sex before marriage, have multiple wives or commit adultery

There are many ways to have power. Catholic orgainsations have a lot of financiical control in theses countries and they have stopped condoms being made avilable.

Kernel wrote:

Getting tested every 6 months / 12 months to see if one has developed full blown AIDS, monitoring the immune system after simple flus and infections, not being able to have children, and not being able to have a safe and sexual relationship with a partner is not my idea of a happy life!

Either is being in a wheelchair but you can still have a happy productive life. Diabetic maybe, there are loads of things which make you "imperfect" but you can live with and go on to be happy

Madpatrick wrote:

You sir, are a baboon!!! That is such a stupid and short sighted thing to write. Someone gets drunk to the point of having sex without a condom and they deserve to die in an extremely long, painful and humiliating way??

What do you think of drunk drivers? I mean they get drunk and then put themselves and others at risk but they are drunk so it's OK right? What's the difference aren't you putting yourself at risk and others too with drunk unsafe sex? Dying of anything may or may not be painful and/or humiliating. People have to understand they are responsible when drunk or not as the result is the same. Drunk isn't an excuse because you got there yourself. THere are certain things you would never do drunk or not on that list should be unprotected sex no excuse!

seamus

MadPatrick wrote:

You sir, are a baboon!!! That is such a stupid and short sighted thing to write. Someone gets drunk to the point of having sex without a condom and they deserve to die in an extremely long, painful and humiliating way??
...
We all know the dangers but sometimes we do stupid things, like having unproteced sex or writing stupid posts saying people deserve AIDS.

How about if a person who is already HIV+ positive gets drunk and has unprotected sex? "Ah shure tis OK, he had the few pints on him at de time".

Kernel

MorningStar wrote:

Did you read the same article. Every experiment the cardinal was using was very questionable. Condoms have never been 100%. I never said bull anything just that misleading information. It is not true to say the risk of a condom is the ability for a virus to travel through the latex in a condom because it is so small. The risk is the same as the amount of protection failure risk. Condoms have never ever claimed to be 100% protection about catching HIV. It is intentional fear being spread over another risk of using condoms. The risk has not changed.

The experiments were not questionable.. the scientists did not like him using the results of their experiments to suggest that condoms were a bad thing, there's a difference. The risk is still there. You did suggest it was bull****, I quote your original post:

The stickers claims the AIDs virus was so small that it could go through a condom. That's simply a lie for a means and I see no difference from this kind of story.

The HIV virus *can* travel through condoms, it's not 'simply a lie'. Risk is risk amigo.

MorningStar wrote:

There are many ways to have power. Catholic orgainsations have a lot of financiical control in theses countries and they have stopped condoms being made avilable.

That's not what you meant, and I think you know it. If Africans adhered to the Catholic teachings, AIDS would be nowhere near the problem it is. Casual sex with strangers, adultery and polygamy caused the spread of AIDS, along with not using condoms - but if the Africans adhered to Church teachings they wouldn't need condoms for protection anyway.

MorningStar wrote:

Either is being in a wheelchair but you can still have a happy productive life. Diabetic maybe, there are loads of things which make you "imperfect" but you can live with and go on to be happy

So you reckon you would live a happy life with AIDS? Without being able to have children, with a heavily reduced life span, no possibility of having a normal sexual relationship (and maybe not a relationship at all) with a partner? You'd live on and be happy? Nope. There's a difference between coping with something and having a happy life.

MorningStar wrote:

What do you think of drunk drivers? I mean they get drunk and then put themselves and others at risk but they are drunk so it's OK right? What's the difference aren't you putting yourself at risk and others too with drunk unsafe sex? Dying of anything may or may not be painful and/or humiliating. People have to understand they are responsible when drunk or not as the result is the same. Drunk isn't an excuse because you got there yourself. THere are certain things you would never do drunk or not on that list should be unprotected sex no excuse!

I never mentioned being drunk or drink driving, so I fail to see why you should bring that up at all tbh? To answer your question, I think drunk drivers are irresponsible, and a threat to life.