CSM Year 1

The General

A few questions cos i'm going into CSM in september, just after finishing CNOC,

How difficult is CSM?
How many hours per week?
Is there many projects?
What classes to avoid?

thats all i can think of at the moment!

Laguna

The General wrote:

A few questions cos i'm going into CSM in september, just after finishing CNOC,

How difficult is CSM?
How many hours per week?
Is there many projects?
What classes to avoid?

thats all i can think of at the moment!

How difficult is CSM?

.....lol, it's easy, just go into class and it's piss easy

How many hours per week?

About 25

Is there many projects?

Project in year 2 that is decided for you, usually a vb database management application (easy). Project year three, your own choice

What classes to avoid?

HCI in year 2... i mean, choosing colours? wtf?!
Project Management year 3... I HATED THIS ****ING CLASS! with the outdated bull**** about "keeping your eyes on the prize"

DO NOT miss a class of maths in year 2 or it'll come up and bite ya on the ass exams time.

The_B_Man

why are u doin CSM after CNOC? you can go into CSM3 from CNOC! why go back and do 2 years of a course that'll bring u back to where u are now?

Moonbeam

The General - well done for getting thru cnoc:)
U are one of the rare finishers of it!

What is csm again?

Redrocket

yeah i was wondering the same?
how many years to csm???
i always thought csm was a 2 year course, usually thought of as bein 3rd and 4th year??
what sort of jobs do people get out of csm?

you can also branch off into second year of computer networking but there is no second year of that course this year.

The_B_Man

oh ye sorry, u must mean ur going into CSM3?

kegan5

if ur starting in CSM3 then its quite 50/50 Laguna has given hours and project info already!

Erm I suppose it depends on what ur interested in, I'm not keen on maths so that subject bored me but like I said...depends on what ur into!

CSM4 is ok much nicer than CSM3!

The General

The_B_Man wrote:

why are u doin CSM after CNOC? you can go into CSM3 from CNOC! why go back and do 2 years of a course that'll bring u back to where u are now?

Oh right so i'm going into CSM Y3 then, so any comments on year 3?

The_Goose

The General wrote:

Oh right so i'm going into CSM Y3 then, so any comments on year 3?

Year 3 is handy man.
Just go to the classes and you ll do fine.
The project is usually a website but you can do what ya want really.
Just know your project, especially if you get someone else to do it for you

The_B_Man

The_Goose wrote:

Just know your project, especially if you get someone else to do it for you

I doubt that sort of stuff happens much....

The_Goose

You d be surprized....

The_B_Man

Shockin! i hope if anyone did that they paid the person who did their project!

The_Goose

Why would anybody pay for something they can get for free

kegan5

thats quite true!

How's the goose?

dream brother

it really depends on what subjects your into! the linux stuff i thought was the hardest but thats because i never went to class. the projects are usually handy if you put some kinda of work into them and i do recommand going to class as this is where all the s*it happens, (took me a few years to realise that) four year is alot hander than three year, and as for fifth year, i'll let you know when i go back.........

kegan5

u hit it on the head!
Who are u?

balkieb2002

The General wrote:

A few questions cos i'm going into CSM in september , just after finishing CNOC,

Umm dont ya kinda have to pass cnoc (like i did) before going onto the next year

good luck in project repeat

::Edit::

The General - well done for getting thru cnoc
U are one of the rare finishers of it!

Ah tis not that rare 6 outta 8 passed this year with 2 people doing repeats including The General , but should be 8 of us at least in csm3. But i seems we're nearly the last finishers of the course due to its joinin up with cw019.

wheres me jumpa

i found csm 3 to be very easy. the subjects are a lot more interesting than desktop publishing, hci, training course design etc. for those of you coming from cw019.

the main problem with it seems to be project, a surprising amount of people struggle with it. show up at least once or twice a week and produce some work each time. if you are planning on doing a website for your project get learning asp or php straight away. you will be taught asp but not in a way that you will ever understand.

tbh my attendance was terrible this year. subjects like business management, project management, systems administration you need not attend, simply print the notes and read them at some convienient time.

ise is tough but if you get on top of the practicals you will be fine. systems applications is this strange subject which after a year i still dont know what it is actually about. the best way i can describe it to you is to pick up a book in the library on something like assembly language, open up the middle pages and try to learn it!

so really just keep on top of project and you will be fine.

woodyg

dream brother is really "The Egg Man"
and a founding member of Hector Pick Axe and the Floating Crow Bars

As for CSM 3 its a piece of piss do your project and dont piss of the angry little man i.e fall asleep in his class he dont like that and i speak from personal experience.

there's nothing at all dificult about CSM3

The_Goose

Ah sure the Goose is fine and yourself misses?
Cant wait to get back to college and sleep.
Never been up in time for work for so long.
May ruin my record and come in late on the last day
Look everybody i learned to spell while i was away!!!

No F7 involved

kegan5

Well done you!
So your looking forward to returning to college then? Can't say I am but maybe that's coz I have a 17/18 hour drive to look forward too lol plus I haven't gotten accomodation yet, told mum I was sleepin in my car or she could buy me a VW campervan (in pink or orange please)

dream brother

No woody you gave away my identity! Now you must pay!

kegan5

egg head? Rittteee yeah now I know! :rolleyes:

Anyone thought up any fabuloso project ideas?

woodyg

im going to set up my own country!
its an Evolution of a previous plan that involved the Invasion of Wales!
There was a show on BBC2 on wednesday night about how to start your own country was very Intriguing

kegan5

Sounds fabulous!
Maybe u could take wales...detach it from england and take it with you? lol

dream brother

think i'm gonna do my project on implementing a helpdek into the hospital, which is nice! ye get the placement report done yet?

woodyg

i still havent recieved an email yet telling us what to f*ckin do!
stupid college email system :mad:

but its not like i would have done anythin before now any way :rolleyes:

Sure plenty of time in september to do that ****

balkieb2002

wheres me jumpa wrote:

i found csm 3 to be very easy. the subjects are a lot more interesting than desktop publishing, hci, training course design etc. for those of you coming from cw019.

the main problem with it seems to be project, a surprising amount of people struggle with it. show up at least once or twice a week and produce some work each time. if you are planning on doing a website for your project get learning asp or php straight away. you will be taught asp but not in a way that you will ever understand.

Its meant to even easier coming from cnoc (cw020) to csm3 as you have covered alot of different parts of the course before, an example being the system admin subject we did last year which included creating databases into a webpage using sql/asp which would be handy towards project i'd say.

Kazu

assembly lanuage dont like the sound of that is that :eek: :eek:

.MODEL SMALL
.STACK 200H
.CODE
START:

Mov ax, fe00
Mov ds, ax
Mov dx, 0
Mov ah, 09
Int 21h

mov ah, 4ch
mov al,00h
int 21h

END START



any idea of what lectureers we will have and who to watch out for

kegan5

Not sure about lecturers...I'm sure they can change can't they?
We're supposed to be having Enda DuncN though for Emerging Technologies..erm...and Peter Lowe (not sure what for)...
Then for the projects I'm sure it's the usual lecturers that have been appointed to us for the past 3/4 years

The_Goose

Banned, comments about lecturers not allowed.

The_B_Man

hah, farlo, u learned to spell but ur grammar is still in ballylinan-ese!! would u believe im actually up early most days this summer? its shockin! ps farlo, keep savin for freshers week! FRESH MEAT! hehe

Balkie - yeah CNOC is probably the best course of the 2 to come from as, like u say, we covered linux and ASP and such already so its more revision than learning. although, the quality of CNOC has degreaded since u started first year ( ) so i dunno if its that much of an advantage these days. i suppose if u did CW019 you'll hav done all that management and accountancy type stuff already so you'll hav the advantage there.

Laguna

Just stay away from project management in csm3 (make sure someone gets teh notes from you) and learn .asp yourself, Eamon Cass is not gonna teach you it, he'll show you it alright, but his code doesn't work. He'll sit there staring at why his sql query doesn't work until you go "Uh Eamon.....Eamon...Yeah eamon? you missed the apostrophe in the sql statement there" he'll stare at you for a while, figure out you're right and go back to staring at his code. I actually liked Enda Dunican's style of teaching, he knows his **** that's for all and, to be honest, his subject was straightforward if you pay attention (he still fights and kills zulu warriors in his spare time though)

wheres me jumpa

are you coming back next year laguna? any other departures from our class?

woodyg

Go to project management ya'll get a great sleep
I cant wait for round 2 with angry little man :rolleyes: i'll take a nap in his first class and see how he reacts.

wheres me jumpa you still workin for the green jumper brigade?

wheres me jumpa

of course i am. the world would not be the same without us diy experts!

how you getting on?

Laguna

Hey Gary man, nah I'm not coming back this year, neither's Derek, Mark or Richie. Sorry big guy, looks like it's just you and Charles on the front lines with Eamon Cass again buddy.

dream brother

Bring on the first Years! FRESH MEAT! FRESH MEAT!

kegan5

Laguuunaaaa are u still in Ireland? Or did u make it back to the UK?

Lol @ Fresh Meat

The_B_Man

Yes, we were all fresh meat once.....some more fresher than others though.

/me looks over at Goose

Laguna

Howdy Kegan, nah I'm still in Ireland for about 6 months then I'm heading off "to a land down under" lol. What are you up to yourself? Back in carlow for one last bite at the apple of....... I dunno?

wheres me jumpa

Laguna wrote:

Hey Gary man, nah I'm not coming back this year, neither's Derek, Mark or Richie. Sorry big guy, looks like it's just you and Charles on the front lines with Eamon Cass again buddy.

the big guy is going to the land down under! i take it your going for a year? what happened derek, mark and richie?

kegan5

Laguna wrote:

Howdy Kegan, nah I'm still in Ireland for about 6 months then I'm heading off "to a land down under" lol. What are you up to yourself? Back in carlow for one last bite at the apple of....... I dunno?

I'm still over here in sunny UK then yes back to Carlow for 3 months...then back here again yaaay!
So your not going back to do the hons then? hmmmm

woodyg

ah the the fresh meat!

it wasnt the best last year so hopefully it will improve

Laguna

Nah i'm actually off to the land down under forever! hah! being English born does have a minor advantage Visa wise going to Oz, so i'll go for the year and before it's up I hope to be a flaming gala australian citizen myself. Good luck next year Gary (i call it a year but the course lasts 15 months lol), I've heard it's a lot easier/less boring. Mark+Derek are off to Oz themselves in September I think, just for the year, Richie the fisherman is... I dunno lol, nah he's getting/got a job I believe..

Hey Kegan, nah I couldn't be arsed for 15 more months of college just for one more point on the academic scale, it's a combination of laziness and dangerously low blood sugar levels I guess :rolleyes: