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Panserborn

Does anyone play the online managment game at www.hattrick.org ?

I kinda need advice on a thing or two!

galwaydude

i do but not so good unfortunately. There are other people on boards who have well good teams

Borat_Sagdiyev

Howdy, I play that game as well. What help do you need?

Panserborn

The way things are going it looks like I'll probably get promoted from IV to III. However, I really don't know if my team is ready for that! My stadium is only 12500 capacity and all my players pull in about 3 stars per match - will I be chewed in III?

Also, whats more important in a coach, experience or skill?

Borat_Sagdiyev

Well, you would want players that are getting a minimum of four stars on inadaquate form going up there I reckon. I'm top of my division IV and even if I win it, which is still dodgy, if I do get promoted I'll get killed up there. But, I can accept that. I can put aside a season to dedicate to training and saving cash to improve the team. When I eventually get back into IV then I'll destroy all the teams there and be in a much better situation going up then.

As for the coach, none of his skills matter when it comes to training. The coach levels go up to excellent but I wouldn't recommend getting one of those (there are very little of them in the entire game). Save some cash and get yourself a solid coach with inadaquate leadership. The leadership is important when it comes to managing your Team Spirit. When you play it cool, your TS goes up 2 levels, when you Match of the Season, it halves. The normal TS is composed. If it is higher than that, it will lower. The better the leadership of your coach, then the slower it'll lower. A clown in the team also helps prevent a drop in TS level when above composed. It works the same way when the TS is lower than composed. The better your coach leadership, then the faster the TS will go up until it reaches composed.

Hope that helps. If you've any other questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them.

Draupnir

whats your team called Borat? I have a team myself and Im also Irish National Manager. Tis a fantastic game.

If anybody needs any help at all just let me knwo.

roar_ie

Keithor??

Borat_Sagdiyev

Draupnir wrote:

whats your team called Borat? I have a team myself and Im also Irish National Manager. Tis a fantastic game.

If anybody needs any help at all just let me knwo.

You know me. Just keep it to yourself. Lets just say that I know Redsers from the time they were a scratch in daddy's sack.

Panserborn

Thanks Borat

As long as I know that other managers are in the same boat - as in, will get promoted and savaged! Good players are getting very hard to buy these days!

In terms of wages, are players from some countries less paid then others?

Draupnir

Yes, by day on boards.ie I am Draupnir, some name I read in a book and thought was cool the day I was setting up my boards account. By nite, I play Hattrick and am KeithoR.

So Borat, youre an old school V.5 player I presume? Not really a Kazak TV personality!?

Borat_Sagdiyev

Draupnir wrote:

Yes, by day on boards.ie I am Draupnir, some name I read in a book and thought was cool the day I was setting up my boards account. By nite, I play Hattrick and am KeithoR.

So Borat, youre an old school V.5 player I presume? Not really a Kazak TV personality!?

[dodgy eastern european accent] Yes I have team. I like to beat other teams - it make me feel like a real man[/dodgy eastern european accent].

But seriously, I started off with a terrible team but now, my midfield has been known to hit the dizzy heights of world class (old).

Draupnir

Old ratings? Boo-urns.

Borat_Sagdiyev

Yeah, I've had enough of seeing poor weak and inadaquate in my team. I sometimes switch quickly just to analyze a team further but I always revert back again.

Borat_Sagdiyev

Panserborn wrote:

Thanks Borat

As long as I know that other managers are in the same boat - as in, will get promoted and savaged! Good players are getting very hard to buy these days!

In terms of wages, are players from some countries less paid then others?

It depends on the country in which you are based. For example, I'm based in Ireland, therefore every Irish player I buy will get 100% of his pay. Any other player I buy with a nationality which is not Irish will get 120% ( 20% bonus ). It is so that people will tend to buy players of the nationality that they are based in rather than just constantly buy, for example, Swedish players.

Oh yeah, make sure you keep the youth squad payments at the full and make sure you promote a youth player every week, regardless of how ****e the previous week's player was.

galwaydude

my team gort United. Have been playing for 3 seasons now since november. Its bloody hard having a **** team and slowly building it up. Im envious of the likes of clarenbridge and so forth who have super teams but have been playing if for years so hopefully time will tell.
In my divison there are 3 really strong teams while the rest of us play catchup.

Draupnir

i wouldnt worry, a lot of the older players are getting bored and we have seen a significant number of older players quit the game recently.

there is a cycle there where dedicated managers who want to climb the leagues definitely can.

for me though, club success isnt the main thing, I like to get involved in the Irish side of things as much as possible. hence I managed to get national manager.

i have to admit though, I wont be happy if I never make division 2 at least.

roar_ie

I have managed to get myself into DivIII this season. I have taken a bit of a battering at times. I have been lucky in that I had to be better than only 1 other team in order to survive this season becuase of a bot team falling down from DivII at the same time. Over the course of the season I have bought a lot of players and I am only now able to compete in the league. Most teams going into DivIII seem to bounce but generally come back stronger for it. You will learn a lot from playing higher up in the leagues. So basically learn from it if you go up and next time you will be in a stronger position to survive.

Panserborn

When you take a thumping in III do your fans up and leave? I need their money and the powers that be won't let me hire hot cheerleaders to fill the seats! Money talks in this game!

Borat_Sagdiyev

Panserborn wrote:

When you take a thumping in III do your fans up and leave? I need their money and the powers that be won't let me hire hot cheerleaders to fill the seats! Money talks in this game!

A few fans leave alright but when you get relegated its a good thing for a few reasons:
1. You should win your division easily as you have been adding to your squad the previous season to try and compete with the division III sides.
2. Because you'll win your division easily, you'll get far more fans joining the club than the amount you lost the previous season.
3. You'll get loads of cash as you won't need to buy players to win the division and you'll also get prize money.

Johnny_Trotter

Hey Galwaydude, a friend of mine is in your league, managing Twente (he's having a crap season though after being in first til last game of last season)...

As Draupnir has said there is a cycle where teams will drop out at higher levels and ones below will rise to the challenge and promote, and improve because of it.
My team is a nice example. (username here same as HT)

Draupnir

With the new season about to start, now would be the perfect time to sign up to Hattrick if any is interested.

Ireland always needs more players and trust me when I say, you will love this game. Absolutely no question.

galwaydude

i aggree, hatrcik is very addictive. When you join dont be discouraged as it takes a few seasons to get your team into shape.

Its by far the best free online management game.

Borat_Sagdiyev

galwaydude wrote:

i aggree, hatrcik is very addictive. When you join dont be discouraged as it takes a few seasons to get your team into shape.

Its by far the best free online management game.

Damn right.

It is really discouraging at the start though, losing 5-1 to terrible teams is one way to get turned off it. But it does get better eventually. This is my fourth full season and its been a really exciting one. I was in a race for the title in division 4, we were level all the way and now with a game left, I've won it - which is nice.

Panserborn

Definatly the best game on the www. However a few warnings must be issued ..........

1. Your work production will decrease

2. Your heartrate will increase

3. You better have a good excuse for your girlfriend when she asks why you´re so blue and you can´t tell her you were outbid for the perfect player by a pi$$y 1000 bucks.

Seriously, a great game.

the tipster

is it hard to start a team up and do you have to be available everyday.



come on cahill to score first tonight 11/1 shot and he is playing up front no beattie

galwaydude

its not hard to start up, just go to www.hattrick.org and register.

all you need is patience as it can be very frustrating when you lose week in, week out. This season has been really exciting for me, beat the best team in the league twice and proberly cost him the league, only 2 defeats he has all season.Oh well they were both tight games, 5:4 away in the first game and 6:5 at home in the return.

Only thing my gf is starting to complain lol as she cant understand when your team has just beaten one of the big boys and you are as happy as pig in **** lol

Borat_Sagdiyev

galwaydude wrote:

its not hard to start up, just go to www.hattrick.org and register.

all you need is patience as it can be very frustrating when you lose week in, week out. This season has been really exciting for me, beat the best team in the league twice and proberly cost him the league, only 2 defeats he has all season.Oh well they were both tight games, 5:4 away in the first game and 6:5 at home in the return.

Only thing my gf is starting to complain lol as she cant understand when your team has just beaten one of the big boys and you are as happy as pig in **** lol

Women! They'll never understand us.

*Rolls eyes*

Panserborn

the tipster wrote:

is it hard to start a team up and do you have to be available everyday.

Nope, cup/friendly games are on Wedensday and league games on Sunday. Just gota log in those days to set your stuff up. When you're buying a new player the bidding is in real time so you might have to log on a few times to make sure u get him! Lots of fun!

Panserborn

Howye again.

I don't have any money going into my youth team at the moment (for shame!), if I start putting 20,000 large into the team per week about how long would it take to get it to the point that I could get pretty good players out of it?

Borat_Sagdiyev

Panserborn wrote:

Howye again.

I don't have any money going into my youth team at the moment (for shame!), if I start putting 20,000 large into the team per week about how long would it take to get it to the point that I could get pretty good players out of it?

I can't remember but it takes the best part of two seasons to get to the hightest level (excellent). As for decent players, well it depends on how good/bad your team is at the moment. If you get a 17 year old inadaquate defender for example, well you should definately keep him if you train defending. But if you're going selling him, don't hold your breath for a big transfer fee.

However, it is week 1 and all youth pulls in this week are worth more than in any other week depending on their skill, so an inadaquate defender might get you something.

Why aren't you putting 20k into the youth squad as it is? Its the only way you'll get a foot in the door. At the moment my best player is a player I got from the youths a few seasons back.

Panserborn

Been watching the money for the last couple of seasons and tried to get my stadium earning me some cash before investing in the youths. It is time to get the youngsters going though. I think I need a better coach as well but to upgrade to a solid skill guy will cost me half a mil - which is half my budget!

Ruadan

be carefull with that, you could get a solid coach that drops the week after.

Hurtling up the league in IV.13.

reecently paid a club record E600,000 on a formidable striker.

And have a homegrown player who was a utility man, but now a 5000 TSI everpresent team captain.

*sigh* i love this game.

Borat_Sagdiyev

Ruadan wrote:

be carefull with that, you could get a solid coach that drops the week after.

Hurtling up the league in IV.13.

reecently paid a club record E600,000 on a formidable striker.

And have a homegrown player who was a utility man, but now a 5000 TSI everpresent team captain.

*sigh* i love this game.

That was a savage deal. I bought one for 800 and any of the transfer compares on him are at minimum 750 grand. How did you manage that?

Ruadan

he's old (30) and has few secondaries, and i bought him in that lull in the transfer market near seasons end.

Boro

Panserborn wrote:

Been watching the money for the last couple of seasons and tried to get my stadium earning me some cash before investing in the youths. It is time to get the youngsters going though. I think I need a better coach as well but to upgrade to a solid skill guy will cost me half a mil - which is half my budget!

You should always invest something (preferably the maximum) in your youth squad. There is always the chance you will pull a superstar worth €4million or so. If you pull goalkeepers at the start, you can make decent money too. Saw it somewhere before, that it takes 2-3 seasons before you make back the money you spent on your stadium to expand it - thats before you start making any money. So in effect its really 'dead' money, when you consider that you could have pulled a double excellent player in that time

Borat_Sagdiyev

Boro wrote:

You should always invest something (preferably the maximum) in your youth squad. There is always the chance you will pull a superstar worth €4million or so. If you pull goalkeepers at the start, you can make decent money too. Saw it somewhere before, that it takes 2-3 seasons before you make back the money you spent on your stadium to expand it - thats before you start making any money. So in effect its really 'dead' money, when you consider that you could have pulled a double excellent player in that time

Double excellent? Yeah right.

A friend of mine in the game pulled a solid week one playmaker with handy but not great secodaries, then he pulled a passable playmaker in week 2 with something like solid passing and passable defending. That player sold for about 1.8 million. Jammy b@stard.

Boro

Double excellent? Yeah right

ya never know

Anyway i was trying to say that you cant win the lottery if you dont buy a ticket

Bowser

I'm playing in my second full season (Team name: Va va voom!). I pulled a 17 year old solid winger with inadequate passing. I sold him for 850000 and got a 21 yr olf formiddable midfielder for my top of the table clash at the weekend!

Hattrick is crazy. I look forward to Wednesdays and Sundays each week! Anyone who has a little patience and like football management sims should definitely sign up!

Boro

My Hattrick Week:

Monday: Agonise about sundays match, blame hattrick 'random factor' for result.
Tuesday: nothing happens, bored! Do some real work for once.
Wednesday: Worry about the match that night, change team 50 times.
Thursday: Nit pick over result, curse HTRF again.
Friday: Training day! hope for pops and curse the form monkey.
Saturday: Try to pull the new Dunbar, sack 22yr old 0 tsi player instead.
Sunday: plan for the league match, celebrate victory (hopefully).

Ruadan

In like my 7th season i'm finally getting somewhere.

Season1, IV, 3 matches, relegated
Season2, V promoted
Season3 IV relegated
Season4 V promoted
Season5 IV survive (playoff)
Season6 IV survive
Season 7, thusfar 3rd place.

best ever YP was a Solid 17 yo defender, passable PM and inad passing, sold for nearly half a mil.

Borat_Sagdiyev

Boro wrote:

My Hattrick Week:

Monday: Agonise about sundays match, blame hattrick 'random factor' for result.
Tuesday: nothing happens, bored! Do some real work for once.
Wednesday: Worry about the match that night, change team 50 times.
Thursday: Nit pick over result, curse HTRF again.
Friday: Training day! hope for pops and curse the form monkey.
Saturday: Try to pull the new Dunbar, sack 22yr old 0 tsi player instead.
Sunday: plan for the league match, celebrate victory (hopefully).

LOL! Classic!

You've just described my life in one post!

Panserborn

I bought a left-back with pretty good stats and he played well for a few weeks. Recently (in the space of a game!) his form went from solid to wretched :eek: and he is playing utter crap!

Why did this happen so fast when he was a good player and a solid defender? So feicing annoying! :mad:

galwaydude

I bought a defender a few weeks ago and his form went down to wretched straight away.I wouldnt mind but his stats for defending is excellent.So have to play him now in friendlies to get his form back, its poor at the moment. Hattrick can be so frustrating sometimes.

Borat_Sagdiyev

galwaydude wrote:

I bought a defender a few weeks ago and his form went down to wretched straight away.I wouldnt mind but his stats for defending is excellent.So have to play him now in friendlies to get his form back, its poor at the moment. Hattrick can be so frustrating sometimes.

Damn right. I bought a defender for about 120k just after I started and got him cheap enough because his form was wretched. But the way I figured, it would pay off in the long term because eventually I'd have a decent defender for a cheap price.

Yeah right. Nearly two full months later, his form was still wretched, had to sell him to keep out of serious debt. I've hated him ever since. I barely made my money back on the b@stard.

blu_sonic

i can't reg with em, they ask for a postcode even when i select country of origin Ireland, now i tried entering my old London one but i gor an e-mail from em knocking me back on registering. any ideas folks?

blu_sonic

i tried to call my team "Shamrock Rovers SC" would this cause an issue?

Draupnir

Nope, I cant imagine that would cause a problem. For postcode just put a D11 or whatever in Dublin.

Otherwise just stick down N/A.

I think there are problems right now with registering in Ireland because the Irish gamesmaster is away.

I'll head into the game conference and try to get some answers.

Borat_Sagdiyev

i can't reg with em, they ask for a postcode even when i select country of origin Ireland, now i tried entering my old London one but i gor an e-mail from em knocking me back on registering. any ideas folks?

As far as I know, (don't quote me on this) you can just enter 0000 as the postcode and it should work. (thats four zeros as opposed to four o's, if you know what I mean).

Mountjoy Mugger

Draupnir wrote:

I think there are problems right now with registering in Ireland because the Irish gamesmaster is away.

The GM is back now, lads. Has anyone tried since?

mugger.

blu_sonic

i've not tried, and it wouldn't allow me to use my D.12

Panserborn

Finding it hard to book matches with teams from other countries. Where do ye go to mix up the football gene pool a little?