Can't access Sex and Sexuality Forum

KTRIC

I've just noticed this forum on the main page and I can't seem to access it. Is it restricted to certain members ??

seamus

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=282269

TerrorFirmer

Is there anywhere Seamus, we can mail money?

I dont use paypal,and at work am a million miles away from any bank...

RuggieBear

MobileInfantry wrote:

Is there anywhere Seamus, we can mail money?

I dont use paypal,and at work am a million miles away from any bank...

There is a postal address for cheques.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1021312&postcount=1

TerrorFirmer

No way send cash? I cant use cheques either....

Chong

Do we have to pay for this forum.

RuggieBear

MobileInfantry wrote:

No way send cash? I cant use cheques either....

if you trust me you can send me cash and i'll reg you with my creditcard. But only if you really trust me....

Beruthiel

Willem D wrote:

Do we have to pay for this forum.

you have to become a suscriber

seamus

MobileInfantry wrote:

No way send cash? I cant use cheques either....

Draft or postal order?

Do we have to pay for this forum.

No. Access to this forum is one of the benefits of being a subscriber.

Chong

This is a bleeding joke.

TerrorFirmer

RuggieBear wrote:

if you trust me you can send me cash and i'll reg you with my creditcard. But only if you really trust me....

I'll trust you, if you would honestly do that favour, I could nip down to the PO (next door to work) in 10 minutes and post it off.... :eek:

Send me a PM with your address if you can, or otherwise, guess I'm just doomed to eternal plainness of a registered user....

RuggieBear

MobileInfantry wrote:

I'll trust you, if you would honestly do that favour, I could nip down to the PO (next door to work) in 10 minutes and post it off.... :eek:

Send me a PM with your address if you can, or otherwise, guess I'm just doomed to eternal plainness of a registered user....

well, i don't mind but tbh, what happens if your money becomes "lost" in the post?
I'd investigate the postal order option first but if you wanna chance An POST...yeah, i'll pm you my contact details.

RuggieBear

Willem D wrote:

This is a bleeding joke.

pourquoi?

rob1891

If we can't view it could you take it off the front page ( as done with other private boards). It's a bit annoying. New after hours rules suck a bit, is there a justification for all this (underagers?), maybe one of those announcement posts is in order as I doubt anyone is interested in searhing for past discussions ...

TerrorFirmer

RuggieBear wrote:

well, i don't mind but tbh, what happens if your money becomes "lost" in the post?
I'd investigate the postal order option first but if you wanna chance An POST...yeah, i'll pm you my contact details.

I'll post it well, with my return address etc, and hope for the best, which will hopefully that it arrives on your doorstep tomorrow or the day after.....

Much appreciated btw, thanks

Chong

Why pay for this forum, this place may now aswell be a subscription p0rn website.

The Clown Man

A small stroke of genius by the admin. Very impressive!

Way to turn a bad idea into a good idea.

Anyway, I'll subscribe.

TerrorFirmer

Willem D wrote:

Why pay for this forum, this place may now aswell be a subscription p0rn website.

Don't be idiotic for the sake of it. Can you imagine the spam, crap and messing that would go on if it was open to every registered user?

At least this way we know its going to be an honest, clean place that we can be relied on and moderated with reasonable ease.

Also, helps shield the eyes of minors from its corrupting information.

Talliesin

As always the reason for subscribing is because you think boards.ie is really cool and you would like to help it out by donating a few bob. Boards has just added access to the new forum as one of its ways of saying "thank you", especially since it gives a degree of accountablility to said access as well.

ecksor

Willem, leaving aside the fact that you've never been much more than a nuisance around here, you don't have to pay for this. You just won't be reading it then like you didn't read it before it was created.

Now, if you want to create a forum for discussion of this nature that anybody of any age can access, then you go right ahead and do it on your website. It sounds like a potential car crash to me. If we have a forum like this then we need some way of restricting access to it or we don't have it at all. Since a lot of people wanted it, then this is the best compromise we have.

seamus

rob1891 wrote:

New after hours rules suck a bit, is there a justification for all this (underagers?)

Yeah, I realise they do, as it effectively bans a certain type of discussion unless you pay for it. The main problem is that (IMO) it would be nice to have a place where people can speak frankly and openly about these kinds of issues. Up until now, they've been on AH, which I haven't been overjoyed about. Each time one appeared, we were a thin line away from boards.ie getting in some serious trouble for publishing content inappropriate for little 13-year-old Jimmy. If his Mummy saw a 40-page thread about Kama Sutra techniques (this never appeared, surprisingly enough), we could have been in some serious ****.
Speaking of Kama Sutra, the forum also provides an opportunity for a relatively spam-free discussion of such adult issues, hopefully without stupid childish comments. And since access is off by default, it makes removing an annoyance/troublemaker all that more simple.

Note that this is just my view of the situation, I was only aware of the creation of this forum when the other thread appeared.

Perhaps the admins will clarify/announce the situation later on (they all seem to be wandering around today)

monkeyfudge

MobileInfantry wrote:

At least this way we know its going to be an honest, clean place that we can be relied on and moderated with reasonable ease.

Ha.. Not if I have any say in it... I think I'll go and start a thread discussing the sex lives of the bonobo chimps... they get up to some really filthy stuff....

Talliesin

Willem D wrote:

Why pay for this forum, this place may now aswell be a subscription p0rn website.

Well it was more thought that if we didn't do it this way the place might end up a free porn website.

Posting porn is not allowed on the sex and sexuality forum. Talking about it is. Linking to a particular piece of erotic material better be damn well relevant to the thread.

RuggieBear

finally somewhere to discuss the sexlife of a furrie

Firewalkwithme

What has already appeared in After Hours and Personal Issues is likely to be equally risque or offencive to some people as whetever ends up on the new sex forum.

I think you guys just smelled money once you realised the demand for such a forum exists. Don't try to make out like your doing us a public service here. There's other methods you could have used to determine a persons age rather than forcing them to be a full subscriber in order to access the forum.

Talliesin

seamus wrote:

Speaking of Kama Sutra, the forum also provides an opportunity for a relatively spam-free discussion of such adult issues, hopefully without stupid childish comments. And since access is off by default, it makes removing an annoyance/troublemaker all that more simple.

Note that this is just my view of the situation

That at least would be part of my view. And I'm one of the mods there.

Incidentally, here's the charter of the forum, so those without access can have a better idea just what we're talking about here.

Talliesin wrote:

1. The purpose of this forum is the discussion of sex, sexuality and related topics.
2. Topics some may find offensive may be discussed here, there are over 500 other forums on boards.ie you can go to instead if you won't like it here. Reasonable links may not be worksafe, use your common-sense before following them. Complaints that there is content of a sexual nature on a sexuality discussion forum will not be entertained.
3. Not everyone in the world thinks the same way about these matters as you, labels like normal/abnormal, moral/immoral/amoral, ethical/unethical, kinky/vanilla, respectable/degenerate will always be disagreed on. How you would apply those labels and what they would imply to you is on-topic and thank you for sharing. Disrespecting those who would apply them differently is not.
4. Similarly, please avoid an overly didactic tone, especially if someone didn't actually ask for advice. This is a discussion forum, not a preaching forum.
5. Please keep within the general tone a thread started with:
   1. By default, threads should be assumed to be about safe, sane and consensual acts (which includes the decision to be celibate, to abstain before marriage, etc). If you want to discuss something outside of that please start a new thread.
   2. By default, what your god or gods think about the previous posters is off topic, please either take it to the forum for the appropriate religion, or else start a new thread on the matter. (Saying "I must not/must do X because of my religion" is okay, saying "No one should/Everyone should do X because of my religion" is not, unless the thread is explicitly about the morality of something).
6. If you ask a poster for more information on something they've said, and they choose not to reply, assume they don't want to answer that question, repeatedly asking such questions will be deemed an act of harassment and result in a ban.
7. Because of the subscriber-only nature of this forum it is not possible to allow for anonymous posting. If you PM a request to one of the moderators, we will treat it in confidence and may post it for you, before deleting the PM. (As mere common-sense should tell you, this confidentiality cannot extend to keeping quiet about matters that should be reported to the police).
8. Fun posts are welcome, but please stay serious on serious threads.
9. What goes where:
   1. Threads on sexual morality focusing on a particular belief system go in the appropriate religion's forum. Threads on sexual morality here are open to all viewpoints.
   2. Threads seeking advice on a given issue go to Personal Issues. The Personal Issues moderators work to steer replies towards those which are offering help, the moderators here will not, if you post about a problem here people can just discuss any aspect of the problem they find interesting and not offer any advice at all.
   3. Threads about sexual health matters are allowed and encouraged here. If you have a concern about your own sexual health you should go to a doctor or an STI clinic, not here. As per other threads seeking advice, threads about coping with a sexual health issue are allowed here, but Personal Issues is the place to go for actual advice.
   4. What celebrity you fancy, etc. is still an After Hours matter. It's not actually a discussion about sex or sexuality after all.
   5. Purely humours threads go to the Humour forum.
   6. Pointless links to pornographic or erotic material go nowhere. They get deleted and the poster gets banned (possibly site-banned).
10. It is not appropriate to out someone or otherwise say anything about their sexual lifestyle they have not mentioned themselves.

RE*AC*TOR

ecksor wrote:

Willem, leaving aside the fact that you've never been much more than a nuisance around here, you don't have to pay for this. You just won't be reading it then like you didn't read it before it was created.

Now, if you want to create a forum for discussion of this nature that anybody of any age can access, then you go right ahead and do it on your website. It sounds like a potential car crash to me. If we have a forum like this then we need some way of restricting access to it or we don't have it at all. Since a lot of people wanted it, then this is the best compromise we have.

well - create the linux iso forum and i'll subscribe.

willem - chill

mobileinfantry - i assume minors can also be subscribers?

rob1891

seamus wrote:

Yeah, I realise they do, as it effectively bans a certain type of discussion unless you pay for it. The main problem is that (IMO) it would be nice to have a place where people can speak frankly and openly about these kinds of issues. Up until now, they've been on AH, which I haven't been overjoyed about. Each time one appeared, we were a thin line away from boards.ie getting in some serious trouble for publishing content inappropriate for little 13-year-old Jimmy. If his Mummy saw a 40-page thread about Kama Sutra techniques (this never appeared, surprisingly enough), we could have been in some serious ****.
Speaking of Kama Sutra, the forum also provides an opportunity for a relatively spam-free discussion of such adult issues, hopefully without stupid childish comments. And since access is off by default, it makes removing an annoyance/troublemaker all that more simple.

Note that this is just my view of the situation, I was only aware of the creation of this forum when the other thread appeared.

Perhaps the admins will clarify/announce the situation later on (they all seem to be wandering around today)

Thanks for the reply. Will it effect PI, I can't remember if the a sex board was suggested because of a glut of threads on AH or just the general tone of PI. I guess there are a lot of questions, all will be revealled in an annoucement ... hint hint

seamus

rob1891 wrote:

Thanks for the reply. Will it effect PI, I can't remember if the a sex board was suggested because of a glut of threads on AH or just the general tone of PI. I guess there are a lot of questions, all will be revealled in an annoucement ... hint hint

PI will stay as PI. They've always had a policy of "only problems here, if you want to discuss something, go to AH". I know myself and the PI mods have been at loggerheads for while about this, as it was felt there was a missing link between the two forums - put bluntly, there were a load of threads that we didn't want on either forum. Hopefully this forum will serve as that missing link, and it will itself define the type of threads that end up there.

Talliesin

Despatch wrote:

I think you guys just smelled money once you realised the demand for such a forum exists. Don't try to make out like your doing us a public service here.

You've rumbled us. It is indeed really a cunning way to boost the massive profits of Boards Ltd.

Chong

ecksor wrote:

Willem, leaving aside the fact that you've never been much more than a nuisance around here, you don't have to pay for this. You just won't be reading it then like you didn't read it before it was created.

Now, if you want to create a forum for discussion of this nature that anybody of any age can access, then you go right ahead and do it on your website. It sounds like a potential car crash to me. If we have a forum like this then we need some way of restricting access to it or we don't have it at all. Since a lot of people wanted it, then this is the best compromise we have.

Fine ecks fine..

regi

Just a quick note on the above. The way to become a subscriber is to pay via paypal. We're going to stop accepting cash/cheque/bank transfers. If you do it by paypal, its instant and verifiable.

KTRIC

Regi wrote:

Just a quick note on the above. The way to become a subscriber is to pay via paypal. We're going to stop accepting cash/cheque/bank transfers. If you do it by paypal, its instant and verifiable.

Right, after many moons faffing around I decided to cough up my hard earned 5 Euro. But I still get the message I'm that I'm not authorised. How come ??

RuggieBear

Regi wrote:

Just a quick note on the above. The way to become a subscriber is to pay via paypal. We're going to stop accepting cash/cheque/bank transfers. If you do it by paypal, its instant and verifiable.

Aye...but not everyone has a Credit card.

RE*AC*TOR

RuggieBear wrote:

Aye...but not everyone has a Credit card.

Perhaps those are the type of people that aren't wanted as boards.ie subscribers?

Ever think that? They're not the smart dollar - not a good demographic.

steveland?

Regi wrote:

Just a quick note on the above. The way to become a subscriber is to pay via paypal. We're going to stop accepting cash/cheque/bank transfers. If you do it by paypal, its instant and verifiable.

regi wouldn't take my cash in person... no matter how many underhanded techniques i used to put it in his pocket

Firewalkwithme

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

Perhaps those are the type of people that aren't wanted as boards.ie subscribers?

Ever think that? They're not the smart dollar - not a good demographic.

Yeah, they would be the type that wouldn't subscribe to PPV football because it used to be available free elsewhere. The type that wouldn't bother signing up for The Adult Channel.

I really think it's funny when ecksor says "You just won't be reading it then like you didn't read it before it was created." Sorry but I think we were all well able to read it before because it was in AH and PI. Now you're just trying to charge for something that you used to provide for free and personally I think that sucks.

ecksor

Well, I think that it sucks that I continue answering to you clueless bellyaching whingebags but we all have our crosses to bear. Seriously, I don't know exactly what you think boards.ie owes you.

If we were doing it for profit then what difference would that make to you anyway? As it is I'm coming in here and honestly answering your questions to this sort of response and I wonder why I bother.

Beruthiel

Despatch wrote:

I think you guys just smelled money once you realised the demand for such a forum exists..

do you begruge the admins a bit of dosh?
servers don't come free you know and whatever why you look at it, boards costs money to run

Trojan

lol @ Despatch.

Poor fella. Someone give him a hug.

regi

Its nothing to do with demographics or 'smart dollars' and everything to do with ease of tracking it from our point of view.

Tracking cash + cheques + bank transfers = total pain in the ass.

Firewalkwithme

Beruthiel wrote:

do you begruge the admins a bit of dosh?
servers don't come free you know and whatever why you look at it, boards costs money to run

No, I don't begrudge you the money. What I have a problem with is that you have repackaged part of the content from at least two existing forums in order to create a new one that you have pay a subscription fee for in order to view. I understand it takes money to run your site but it one extra forum is hardly going to break the donkeys back is it?

Firewalkwithme

ecksor wrote:

Well, I think that it sucks that I continue answering to you clueless bellyaching whingebags but we all have our crosses to bear. Seriously, I don't know exactly what you think boards.ie owes you.

If we were doing it for profit then what difference would that make to you anyway? As it is I'm coming in here and honestly answering your questions to this sort of response and I wonder why I bother.

I wonder if I paid my subs would I subjected to this kind of **** from you? I'm only here to express my opinion as a user of boards. You really don't like opposing points of view do you?

RuggieBear

I think Despatch is Sex and Sexuality frustrated....

Firewalkwithme

RuggieBear wrote:

I think Despatch is Sex and Sexuality frustrated....

Hardly, and besides there about a million other places on the internet to talk about sex so what makes this one so special that we have to subscribe to it?

ecksor

What does your point of view have to do with anything? Let's see, I discussed the creation of the forum with an admin and an SMod, discussed the pros and cons and how we were going to approach it and then when asked on here came on to explain the rationale. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact. Just because you've drawn a conclusion based on zero information doesn't make your "point of view" at all relevant.

Firewalkwithme

Trojan wrote:

lol @ Despatch.

Poor fella. Someone give him a hug.

Just try it and see what happens.

Firewalkwithme

ecksor wrote:

What does your point of view have to do with anything?

Don't you place any value in the feedback and opinions of the users of your site? You could do worse than listening to your users every now and then. Every user is a potential customer until you choose to insult them rather than engage in discussion which is all I was trying to do.

Trojan

Despatch - you mention "repackaging part of the content" from 2 existing boards, one of which being AH - I'd like to address that (I do not speak for PI).

I am extremely uncomfortable with topics related to sex or sexuality being available on AH due to the wide audience, especially given the large numbers of u18s using AH. If you check history, particularly in Feedback, you'll see that (my) policy of locking threads has been criticised in the past, and that this issue has generated a lot of debate. Yet many of us believe that such discussion of these topics should not be held on AH. Boards users are not losing content fromAH, because if the content that will be posted on S&S was posted on AH, I am the first one to delete it (unless seamus, WWM, Monty et al get there before me ).

In that line I strongly welcome the new forum, and I note that payment is a useful (although not foolproof) method of age validation. I believe that the majority of Boards users will appreciate Boards enough to give back something towards the running costs (and the huge amount of work that the admins do) if wish to access this "Premium Content".

That you are not part of my conjectured majority... well, there have always been naysayers, and there always will be naysayers. You are a naysayer - congratulations.

--

Sorry about the "Premium Content" guys

ecksor

As I pointed out, this isn't a matter of a point of view. If you don't want to get insulted then perhaps you shouldn't wade into the middle of things you know nothing about suggesting that people are liars. There are plenty of plans to leverage boards to make a bit of money. This isn't one of them.

RuggieBear

Despatch wrote:

Just try it and see what happens.

But I love a good hug...don't you?