Do you think we'll be attacked?

AdMMM

With the recent attacks which have been drawing closer to our shores, I ask the simple question, do you think Ireland will be attacked in some way shape or form by terrorists in the near future?

It might be a controversial thread but it would be nice to hear everyones opinion!

I personally think yes, yes we will. Over 200,000 armed soldiers passed through Shannon last year, soldiers that were involved on the War on terror. I don't know how they might strike but I just think it's going to happen

Redleslie2

Italy is next (according to my girlfriend who's Italian and is never wrong about anything.)

JackKelly

Hmmm, having soldiers "pass through" Ireland is different to having soldiers actually fighting the war on terror. I don't think we will be targeted. Unless maybe as a nowhere is safe approach like bali.

andyman

I think we will eventually. Dublin will probably be the victim on the LUAS or the DART. If it's not Dublin, It'll probably be Cork.

Sparky

i feel the shannon thing is what will make us a target, i also heard people saying whats to stop them attacking american influnces in countries, ie mcdonalds

you cant stop a human bomb, its the smartest bomb ever created, people say they wont attack us but we helped the americians with shannon so thats their reason for a possible attack on us.

Karl Hungus

If they bombed McDonalds, I'd buy 'em a pint!

Sarky

Karl Hungus wrote:

If they bombed McDonalds, I'd buy 'em a pint!

You would then be promptly stoned to death because of their hardline views on alcohol.

pwd

I get the impression that the sorts who plan these attacks are full of blind hate and would just see us as westerners/christians/white devils/whatever.
Take the most pro-Bush flag-waving american bigot and multiply that sorta ignorance a few times until you get someone ready to blow themselves up in order to kill people for being foreign. I reckon that is your typical middle-eastern terrorist.
If we don't get attacked it would be more likely because we are a bit out of the way, and minor, not because they don't hate us.

Karl Hungus

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

magick

no, why go after ireland, when u can go after the big fish like the uk/us

besides why attack some of our world famous sites like the dart, or the spike/spire or the ilac shopping center

pwd

I wonder if they built the spike on the site of nelson's column because they thought a structure made out of metal would be rather difficult to blow up.

Son_of_Belial

:rolleyes: Well I heard there was a bomb scare on the quays in Dublin today (anyone else able to confirm this?) so I'm not so sure either way. It's not enough to make me not want to do what I want to do though. I'd be the same if I was living in Dublin or Baghdad. I'm not going to let the fear of some cowardly little arse with a bomb stop me doing what I want to do.

AdMMM

magick wrote:

no, why go after ireland, when u can go after the big fish like the uk/us

besides why attack some of our world famous sites like the dart, or the spike/spire or the ilac shopping center

They have gone after the "big fish". Just look at 9/11 and the recent bombings in London. They also seem to be individually picking off the countries that aided the War on Terror in some way!

Why attack a strip of nightclubs in Bali? I don't know, but they did!

danniemcq

well under the UN war guidelines, as Ireland has allowed US army planes and the rest to land in Shannon Ireland is not a neutral country when it comes to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. so if we are we can all thank our leader and puppet Bertie

DawnMc

andyman wrote:

I think we will eventually. Dublin will probably be the victim on the LUAS or the DART. If it's not Dublin, It'll probably be Cork.

Leave Cork alone

JackKelly

if we do ever get attacked , there is going to be murder in the government

p~b

not a chance, they prob just think of ireland as being a small place with loads of alcoholics and they prob think we have enough trouble already with the north

kasintahan

Doubt it.

Most foreigners recognise us as "anti-British" underdogs, if they recognise us at all. If their info was good enough to ID Shannon as a troop relay then presumably it would be good enough to recognise the public disquiet that surrounds it here and that the current government will not survive another election.

KTRIC

[OUT LOUD] Damn, I hope them there terrorists don't blow up the Spire, or anything. Cause that would really annoy us very much [/OUT LOUD]

Nuttzz

kasintahan wrote:

Doubt it.

Most foreigners recognise us as "anti-British" underdogs, if they recognise us at all. If their info was good enough to ID Shannon as a troop relay then presumably it would be good enough to recognise the public disquiet that surrounds it here and that the current government will not survive another election.

ken bigley, margaret hussein, their irish ties were worthless in saving them. We are part of the EU, we are infidels, we would be attacked if we had anything worth attacking

Gross Halfwit

Terrorists dont care if we were invaded by England. Terrorists dont care that we had a terrorism going on here for years. Terrorists dont care that we were in a similar position to them (on a smaller scale). All terrorist see is that we are Westerners and we let American planes land in shannon. It will come sometime. When England lock-up so much that Terrorists wont be able to do a thing over there then they will come over here. Simple as.

Unless, some IRA lads trained them like over in Brazil and part of there agreement was that they never attack Ireland. It may be a little over the top but you never know!

Wertz

Ireland is a base for so many US multinationals in Europe, some of whom have manafacturing plants here...it's a likely bet that we are a potential target, but AQ have bigger fish to fry as of yet...
In the coming Christian-Muslim war, the lines will be a lot better defined and then we will be a definite target. and an easy one at that...

SoupyNorman

Well i just hope ye all still have your iodine tablets!!!!!!!

I wouldnt rule out a hit on us, it only takes the one extremist and there could be some hiding out over here....they might do it to take a bit of focus off britan either way you cant put your life on hold thinking about what could happen or you would never leave the house.

With every day that passes now the world seems to become a little more unstable, i think these extremists are saving their best work till last.(although i hope im wrong)

ShreddedHumans

Hey!
Terrorists!
We don't take kindly to your type round here.

digitally-yours

Well my reading is that there is no threat to ireland from terrorist
i could be wrong
but as far as i know i dont think there are those much extreemist elements here.
there are muslims living here.I am my self a Muslim.A progressive,positive,optimistic and a open minded person

and i believe muslims in ireland are very open minded
and i would urge irish people not to have a conservative view about all the muslims

Uk Terror threat

Uk has been attacked
ressons being
there are loadz of muslims living in uk
who see injustices in the socitey and they being treated as second class citizens

i believe "injustice gives rise to voilence"
in this prespective
This article is worth reading
Ken 100% understands the thinking behind all this
have a read its an eye opener
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4698963.stm

is_that_so

I believe that there is potential everywhere and the OP is probably influenced the the fear factor engendered by the London attacks. I don't believe that we will be attacked. For one there is no particular propaganda value especially as this is the home of the modern freedom fighter (that's what they were ) who have had links to almost every group since. Our position on Iraq has been well articulated by Bertie; we're on the fence lads, whatever the mood of the people may have been. I also believe that in general we have had a more sympathetic attitude to sensitive areas, in particular the Palestinian question, which does have official Government support.

I agree with some of the earlier posts that there are much bigger fish to fry and far better propaganda targets.

As regards the Margaret Hassan execution. It wouldn't have mattered if she'd been the Pope's cousin , she was Western, in Iraq and an easy target much the same as many of the other hostages. In her case there was political capital to be gained from offering support and begging for her release.

daveg

kasintahan wrote:

Doubt it.

If their info was good enough to ID Shannon as a troop relay then presumably it would be good enough to recognise the public disquiet that surrounds it here

I think you'll find the situation was the same in Spain (goverment sent troops even though most of the public were against it). Didn't stop them bombing Madrid.

Kingsize

if this country is affected it'll only be as a result of some attack on the uk or because of some copycat attack-
shannon or not this country is unimportant &
an attack here would not create the same headlines as even the failed london bombings -
unless it was an attack on an EU summit or an assasination attempt on some visiting "important" politician as opposed to one of our small time cowboys.
every "western" nation is a target, but in saying that its not just "them " vs "us"

Theremin

When the Irish government attempted to intervene on behalf of Ken Bigley, didn't Al-Queda make some comment (tried to google the exact quote but couldn't find it) to the effect of 'we have no problem with the Irish. They, like us, have attempted to cleanse their soil of British Imperialism'? Obviously this shows a very limited and outmoded idea of our history, but it seems that we are not included in their targets thus far. Once they had the hostages, they weren't going to release them, because it would have opened the possibility of appeals being made on behalf of others hostages on the basis of their ties to other ethnicities.

Personally I'd be more worried about an attack (although it probably wouldn't be that easy to attack) on Sellafield than any direct strike on Ireland.

scojones

|.Murderer.| wrote:

With the recent attacks which have been drawing closer to our shores, I ask the simple question, do you think Ireland will be attacked in some way shape or form by terrorists in the near future?

It might be a controversial thread but it would be nice to hear everyones opinion!

I personally think yes, yes we will. Over 200,000 armed soldiers passed through Shannon last year, soldiers that were involved on the War on terror. I don't know how they might strike but I just think it's going to happen

Who cares? I mean it's not as if anything we do will change more troops passing through Shannon && the fact that so many troops have already passed through Shannon. As a person living in Shannon, I am furious that the government is risking putting the natives of Shannon at risk... However I don't think we will be attacked any time soon. When you think about it, it is the UK and the US who acted in the war on Iraq. One of Ireland's airports let US troops pass through it. We declared ourselves neutral, which is a farce and has been discussed on boards already for a very long period of time, which I am not willing to get into a debate over... That said, of course there is a risk that we will be attacked, however I think Sellafield is a bigger target than Shannon Airport.

ziggy

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DoraDelite

|.Murderer.| wrote:

Why attack a strip of nightclubs in Bali? I don't know, but they did!

Because it's a hugely popular holiday destination for Australians. Australia and Indonesia have issues with each other and Australia have also aided the US/UK in the 'war' in Iraq.

Flukey

Ireland have been seen as a hero for attacking Britain through the IRA. We have been "respected" in some parts for doing so. That is one thing that could save us.

There is no "War on Terror." It is a war for terror, because it is creating even more of it. As events in London recently have proved, it has been very successful. When the West starts addressing the causes of terrorism, not the perpatrators, then we will have a war on terror.

toiletduck

Flukey wrote:

Ireland have been seen as a hero for attacking Britain through the IRA. We have been "respected" in some parts for doing so. That is one thing that could save us.

yes, lets hope that the murdering bastards think that we're a bunch of murdering bastards aswell.

i think there's a very remote possibility of us being attacked in the future but i'd be worried about our own home-grown terrorists tbh.

dmck2886

I think we are all forgeting about Sellafeild and if that is attacked the affect it would have on Dublin!

Flukey

It would go a lot further than Dublin.

toiletduck

dmck2886 wrote:

I think we are all forgeting about Sellafeild and if that is attacked the affect it would have on Dublin!

true, but people here forget that there are a lot more nuclear power plants in britain and depending on wind direction etc. could be just as bad for us as an attack on sellafield.

Kingsize

attacking sellafield 9/11 style really wouldnt have an immediate effect worthy of it happening, they could just as easily attack any nuclear powerplant closer to a large UK city which would have a more devastating effect.
personally im more worried about the SH_T being dumped in the irish sea by BNF than i am in the off chance that someone will "strike it lucky" @ sellafield.

Selik

Unfortunately I think it will happen at some stage.

At the end of the day we're closer to Boston than Berlin in political and social terms and we're almost like, more American than like, Americans themselves these days...

Can I get that to go please!

GUBU

Ireland is relatively insignificant on the world stage, despite our high opinion of ourselves, and is very unlikely to be one of Al-Qaeda's main targets. I believe that if Islamic fundamentalists are present in Ireland, they are using the country as a temporary base, not because Ireland is a target. The use of Shannon by US troops is an issue that has been highly exaggerated, and one that really only seems to concern Irish people. Letting US planes refuel is hardly on the same level as flying those planes over Iraq and dropping bombs. American soldiers stop over at airports all over the world, not just here. Personally I think that terrorists will go after the big players before bothering with small fry like us.

toiletduck

^^^
totally agree with this post.

HelterSkelter

kasintahan wrote:

Doubt it.

Most foreigners recognise us as "anti-British" underdogs, if they recognise us at all. If their info was good enough to ID Shannon as a troop relay then presumably it would be good enough to recognise the public disquiet that surrounds it here and that the current government will not survive another election.

And what about the tens of thousands that marched in the anti-war protests in London????? That didn't stop them bombing there.

HelterSkelter

GUBU wrote:

...Letting US planes refuel is hardly on the same level as flying those planes over Iraq and dropping bombs. American soldiers stop over at airports all over the world, not just here.

Would you say the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot and Iraqi planes were stopping here to re-fuel on their way to bomb USA? Do you think the Americans would ignore it??

HelterSkelter

|.Murderer.| wrote:

With the recent attacks which have been drawing closer to our shores, I ask the simple question, do you think Ireland will be attacked in some way shape or form by terrorists in the near future?

It might be a controversial thread but it would be nice to hear everyones opinion!

I personally think yes, yes we will. Over 200,000 armed soldiers passed through Shannon last year, soldiers that were involved on the War on terror. I don't know how they might strike but I just think it's going to happen

Despite what's going on in Shannon I think we are way down the list for a terrorist attack. We are small fry. Irish people seem to think we are the centre of the universe but most people in most countries don't give a fúck about us and don't even know we exist.

g5hn710m4xpdwy

pfft! they wouldnt go near the IRA :rolleyes: yer id say its coming sooner or later at us... :eek:

pwd

Funny that the punishment for getting drunk is to get stoned.

AdMMM

While I agree with the most of you in saying that the chances of us being attacked are small, I think we are "eligable" to be attacked because of Shannon Airport and that does make me feel a little uneasy. Not much so, I'll still go about my daily life as per usual, but at the back of my mind I still think that there would be a chance, however small it maybe, of us being attacked!

Steoob

toiletduck wrote:

true, but people here forget that there are a lot more nuclear power plants in britain and depending on wind direction etc. could be just as bad for us as an attack on sellafield.

isn't it mad how our fate is depending on the wind? hehe dont ya think?

o and i actually knew someone in AMERICA that didn't know where ireland was... were a **** in the massive hole that is this world

StupidLikeAFox

There is also a street in Iran called Bobby Sands Street. This may be a v.small fact but a lot of countries in the Middle East would see Ireland as anti-British, having heard of IRA and all that jazz. It may just put us out of their minds.

At the same time, wtf would they bomb Ireland, they'd achieve nothing by doing it.

ShockBlast RX8

There Next attack is The US with nukes Osama was planing an American Nuke thing in diffrent Parts of the US aparently & I dont Think Ireland is there Next hit they usualy use this country to Hide away & the some were saying that They were Tranined By IRA or someting like that im not 100%

ShockBlast RX8

Sure Osama has a house in Springfield Tallaght Aparently dont know how much of this crap is True