Boy/girl racers what do you find acceptable?

MorningStar

Hi,
There are loads of boy/girl racers around and I am sure some must post up here. I am really curious what you get out of it. I get the custimisation and wanting to have a great looking car or image. Like most things there are good and bad but from my observation thus far if you see a customised modern car they will be speeding and/or driving dangerously.
There are a few cars I repeatedly see so it could be them effecting my judgment. If you drive around a suped up car what are you going to do with other than drive fast and show off?
So if you drive around in a customised car what do you think is irresponsible?
1) Music blaring out of the car
2) Speeding
3) Tail gating those driving at correct speed
4) Gunning your car
5) Just plain loud cars (do they put holes in their muffler?)

I must admit I don't see why you would spend all your money on a car and have to take a food delivery job to pay for it's up keep.

kaimera

motor_fora perhaps?

RedRaven

MorningStar wrote:

Hi,
There are loads of boy/girl racers around and I am sure some must post up here. I am really curious what you get out of it. I get the custimisation and wanting to have a great looking car or image. Like most things there are good and bad but from my observation thus far if you see a customised modern car they will be speeding and/or driving dangerously.
There are a few cars I repeatedly see so it could be them effecting my judgment. If you drive around a suped up car what are you going to do with other than drive fast and show off?
So if you drive around in a customised car what do you think is irresponsible?
1) Music blaring out of the car
2) Speeding
3) Tail gating those driving at correct speed
4) Gunning your car
5) Just plain loud cars (do they put holes in their muffler?)

I must admit I don't see why you would spend all your money on a car and have to take a food delivery job to pay for it's up keep.

Well id say let the girl racers go for it, if you were getting cheap insurance like they are then what the hell, plus all that shifting around that they do the a gear stick can only be good for us, eh lads nudge nudge wink wink!!!:D

joejoem

Instead of spending 4000 on a car and 10,000 on modding it, why not buy a really nice car for 14k?

Sleipnir

It's the boy-racers in their 30's that I find most laughable. Why would you stick a fat exhaust and a spoiler which looks like a shopping bag handle on a Nissan Primera and then go and pick up the kids from school?
Now *that's* sad!

LoneGunM@n

Sleipnir wrote:

It's the boy-racers in their 30's that I find most laughable. Why would you stick a fat exhaust and a spoiler which looks like a shopping bag handle on a Nissan Primera and then go and pick up the kids from school?
Now *that's* sad!

I'll cancel my order for a big bore exhaust and spoiler so

I used to go to some of the car meets & some of the cars are pretty spectacular tbh!!

I can never understand why people belittle them for their efforts ... if they want to spend a ton of money doing up a cheap car, I say let them 'cause it's hardly hurting anyone!!

IANOC

MorningStar wrote:

Hi,
There are loads of boy/girl racers around and I am sure some must post up here. I am really curious what you get out of it. I get the custimisation and wanting to have a great looking car or image. Like most things there are good and bad but from my observation thus far if you see a customised modern car they will be speeding and/or driving dangerously.
There are a few cars I repeatedly see so it could be them effecting my judgment. If you drive around a suped up car what are you going to do with other than drive fast and show off?
So if you drive around in a customised car what do you think is irresponsible?
1) Music blaring out of the car
2) Speeding
3) Tail gating those driving at correct speed
4) Gunning your car
5) Just plain loud cars (do they put holes in their muffler?)

I must admit I don't see why you would spend all your money on a car and have to take a food delivery job to pay for it's up keep.

not all are the same , and unfortunately alot get tarred with the same brush
people are under the misconception that boy racers cause all the deaths on our roads , because of all the adverts etc
but in reality its cars that have not been looked after ie. havent spent a penny upgrading or even repairing :rolleyes: and incompetent drivers
its a hobby and interest thats all.

Kiera

I wouldnt call myself a girl racer, but i do look after my car and like to do it up a wee bit. Its a Golf so not much you can do to it without making it look silly but i do take pride in it and i can see how others enjoy it too. I agree that some take it too far but hey those guys make us giggle so leave them to it if they want to ruin a nice car. I must admit i do like to listen to the radio pretty loud but i'm not one of those muppets who rolls down all the windows and pumps out 50cent. As for the dangerous driving and the likes you have mentioned, Morning Star, i feel you cant just pick on one type of driver. There's sooooo many mental drivers out there of all ages. What about all those people in the 80's that got free licences, surely most of them would be classed dangerous drivers???

MorningStar

IANOC wrote:

not all are the same , and unfortunately alot get tarred with the same brush
people are under the misconception that boy racers cause all the deaths on our roads , because of all the adverts etc
but in reality its cars that have not been looked after ie. havent spent a penny upgrading or even repairing :rolleyes: and incompetent drivers
its a hobby and interest thats all.

Are you sure it's a misconception? I don't know either way about the cars involved in accidents but there is definitely same age profile being killed as tends to drive such cars.
I accept not all are doing such things but out a small number of road users a high proprotion seem to behave baddly on the roads.

heggie

Why do cyclists think rules of the road such as red lights etc dont apply to them?

well, u get my point, u cant generalise like that. I drive a tastefully (imo) modified car (u can look at the pics in my sig) and I agree some standard irish type cars look crazy with some mods that are done to them, but if they want to, let them.

Anyway, thats my responce to your purely antagonistic post. As your a cyclist it seems, surely you've had more problems with other types of drivers on the road? I know I have as a motorist.

Ray777

Spending vast amounts of money on souping up a run-of-the-mill hatchback is a harmless hobby. Some people like trainspotting, some like stamp collecting, others like adding bits onto their cars. If it makes them happy and it's not hurting anyone, live and let live.

I must admit though, I do find it amusing, watching a lowered car, with a bodykit doing 2mph over a speed-ramp. Pathetic! :cool:

IANOC

MorningStar wrote:

Are you sure it's a misconception? I don't know either way about the cars involved in accidents but there is definitely same age profile being killed as tends to drive such cars.
I accept not all are doing such things but out a small number of road users a high proprotion seem to behave baddly on the roads.

as do all ages mate

BizzyC

I thinks it's pathetic the way they all have sh1tty little cars done up with big spoilers and side skirts that just look plain ugly.

Do they not realise that everyone who sees them in one of these cars laughs at them???

MorningStar

Kiera wrote:

Morning Star, i feel you cant just pick on one type of driver. There's sooooo many mental drivers out there of all ages. What about all those people in the 80's that got free licences, surely most of them would be classed dangerous drivers???

You can be a idiot with or without a licene. I don't see people in their 40s+ driving suped up cars at speed with music blaring. Generally boy racers seem to be more agressive but I am curious how and what they feel on the subject? Saying they don't do it or not all of them do it misses the point, I want to know how they feel about it.
I cycle and as such break lights and cycle on the path I know why I do it I want to know why they act as they do.

IANOC

BizzyC wrote:

I thinks it's pathetic the way they all have sh1tty little cars done up with big spoilers and side skirts that just look plain ugly.

Do they not realise that everyone who sees them in one of these cars laughs at them???

dont think they care mate , thats the whole point lol

its the ones that drive like t*ts in housing estates that cause all the problems for the rest of them

Kiera

Try this site MorningStar. I'm sure they'll be more than happy to tell you or you can just read some posts and find out:
http://www.cruiseirl.com

SoupyNorman

I have many a friend with modified motors, some nice some not so nice but almost all of them think they are indistructable I dont think its big or clever, its actually sickening because when the day comes where 'they are'('they are' refers to all speeders/dangerous drivers) being scraped up off the road there wont be buckets of sympathy going around, devestation yes but a death not entirely unexpected and then there is the scenario of the 'racers' of all ages causing the death of another, kids, the elderly which happens all too often.

When i see irratic and ridicoulous driving i feel like breaking the drivers ankles ('Misery' style). I dont feel its a misconception that lil boy racers cause all the deaths on the road, of course they dont cause every accident but they intimidate other drivers causing others to concentrate less on driving and more on worring about what the little f*ckers are gonna do next.

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

Most of the boy/girl racers around our area have souped up Fiat punto's. :rolleyes: Most look absolutely ridiculous.

Nothing wrong with souping up a car though. Mostly just harmless fun.

1) Music blaring out of the car
2) Speeding
3) Tail gating those driving at correct speed
4) Gunning your car
5) Just plain loud cars (do they put holes in their muffler?)

Its when they score 5/5 as above that really gets me. I'd say 99% of them fall into this category (in my area anyway).

ambrose :cool:

MorningStar

heggie wrote:

Anyway, thats my responce to your purely antagonistic post. As your a cyclist it seems, surely you've had more problems with other types of drivers on the road? I know I have as a motorist.

Maybe you should read what I posted again. It is not antagonistic. Since you have a customised car maybe you can give me your views on the subject. As a cyclist I don't have an specific problem with racers but as a person living in a community they are noticable and I wanted to know their views on it.
I can tell what time it is by one driver winds his way through the estates. I was wondering why he acts this way and what he gets out of it.

De Hipster

MorningStar wrote:

I cycle and as such break lights and cycle on the path I know why I do it I want to know why they act as they do.

I always thought that cycling on the footpath was prohibited...you dangerous lunatic, think of the pedestrians! :rolleyes:

IANOC

a boy racer on a racer

Sleipnir

Ferrari/Lambo/Aston i.e super-car:
If you've got it flaunt it.

Souped up Punto/Fiesta/starlet i.e. The same car your gran has:
If you don't got it, don't bother pretending you do.

magpie

Why supe up a car? Why wear a tracksuit? Why wear sovereign rings? Why wear Burberry baseball caps? Why listen to unce unce unce music?

Because dey're raaaaaaapid

RedRaven

Kiera wrote:

I wouldnt call myself a girl racer, but i do look after my car and like to do it up a wee bit. Its a Golf so not much you can do to it without making it look silly but i do take pride in it and i can see how others enjoy it too. I agree that some take it too far but hey those guys make us giggle so leave them to it if they want to ruin a nice car. I must admit i do like to listen to the radio pretty loud but i'm not one of those muppets who rolls down all the windows and pumps out 50cent. As for the dangerous driving and the likes you have mentioned, Morning Star, i feel you cant just pick on one type of driver. There's sooooo many mental drivers out there of all ages. What about all those people in the 80's that got free licences, surely most of them would be classed dangerous drivers???

Good point about the liecences that were handed out but i think it was the 70s, anyway that was the worst thing that the government could have done at the time, sooo Irish!!!!!

MorningStar

De Hipster wrote:

I always thought that cycling on the footpath was prohibited...you dangerous lunatic, think of the pedestrians! :rolleyes:

Go over to the commuter section and say that. The number of cyclist that are involved in pedestrian accidents are pretty small and probably compareable to those involving joggers. Basically it is safer to cycle on the path and a small risk to pedestrians. It is actually dangerous to stop at certain lights rather than keep going or cycle on the path. I am comfortable with it but mortorists go mental. For all say the rules aslo apply to me look at a crossroad and watch all the cars not follow the rules because it's easier and safer. (cars are meant to go around each other, they don't)

Off topic but I knew it would need justification so there is no need to rip it to shreds as I am not attacking anybody in anyway.

Kiera

Did you take a look at that site, MorningStar?

Boggle

I can't really remember the last time I saw a mod'd car sticking out of a ditch.
I CAN remember the last time I saw a clapped out corolla van (complete with L-plate) sticking out of a ditch though...

I.M.O. Most people who spend money on their cars tend to mind them and generally get a bad name because they rev them around towns n stuff.

MorningStar

Kiera wrote:

Did you take a look at that site, MorningStar?

Yeah but it doesn't really say much other than car geek talk. If I post a question I doubt it would be measured the same way if you asked fox hunters their views on fox hunting. Plus I am not joining to do so it only fair they have theri own place to talk

astrofool

just point out that at crossroads, cars don't have to go around each other morningstar, both ways are optional. Also, in Ireland, i'd use the pavement on any road without a cycle path, as most of the roads are too narrow to accommodate cyclists properly.

Kiera

Try this link, should answer your questions.

GreeBo

I use the path because there is usually some idiot walking on the bike lane.
Then they get thick when you fly past them, GET ON THE PATH FOOLS.

Kiera

It proves that some boy/girl racers are d!cks and the rest want nothing to do with them!

Borzoi

kaimera wrote:

motor_fora perhaps?

Oh no you don't - if this thing comes over to motors, it will only be only a brief stop on its way to the bin.

This particular topic has been done to death there - and there no need to go pouring salt on old wounds

GreeBo

Kiera wrote:

It proves that some boy/girl racers are d!cks and the rest want nothing to do with them!

most.

Kiera

Well that’s my opinion GreeBo! You cant tar everyone with the same brush! Even the Boy racers in that link are saying that some eejits give them all a bad name.

IANOC

id save your breath kiera.
the only sound they hear is a full scorpion exhaust system

Kiera

Praetorian

Noise making exhausts (with no performance benefit whatsoever) do my head in. Ooh your making more noise than I am, wow weeee!

GreeBo

IANOC wrote:

id save your breath kiera.
the only sound they hear is a full scorpion exhaust system

:rolleyes:
yeah well I can get a peg and a bit of cardboard and stick it against my spokes and ta-da Im cool like you are.

If it was just pathetic and sad I wouldnt really care, but these people are on the same roads as the rest of us, thats my problem.
You dont need to do 40 in an estate, you are nearly there, slow the fúck down 'tard.

RedRaven

Kiera wrote:

Well that’s my opinion GreeBo! You cant tar everyone with the same brush! Even the Boy racers in that link are saying that some eejits give them all a bad name.

What do you drive??

Sarky

Hay Boys U Wana Race My Twin Cam???????

jezza

My mum and dad are getting me a car/insurance for my 17th birthday. So woooo!!!
noisey car for me to play with.

chrismon

:mad: whats the problem with someone trying to make their car look different?
I wonder how many people drive like lunathicks in general? Im not talking about boy racers. Iv had so much more problems with people driving 05 Mercs driving me off the road. Im sick of it....

Sarky

chrismon wrote:

:mad: whats the problem with someone trying to make their car look different?

The fact that it ends up looking identical to everyone else who tried to make their car look different. Boy racers are the new gothlings. Only more offensive.

Wibbs

Well I figure live and let live, but I do agree with the whole noisy exhaust without any performance benefit at all. Personally, I like the idea of a sleeper car. Looks boring and ordinary with a lot going on under the bonnet(cue flaming from some think about the children gobdaw about speeding :rolleyes: ). The oily bits interest me far more than the huge drag inducing wings, spoilers and such TBH. Now a quad cam V10 with two superchargers squeezed into a grey uno with a rusty door. That perversly appeals.

PS. jezza. When your sig has more words in it than your replies, time for a rethink.

Nightwish

I personally have nothing against someone doing up their car-I think its their own choice to waste their money making a car look ridiculous. however they make it so easy for the rest of us to stereotype them. The VAST majority of them in my town speed, tailgate other drivers, use the road outside my house as a racetrack at night, during the day they drive up and down the main st all day with the windows down and their music up really really really loud...
sad really

Sparky

jezza wrote:

My mum and dad are getting me a car/insurance for my 17th birthday. So woooo!!!
noisey car for me to play with.

You Lucky bastard, id love to be given a car for my 20th birthday never mind my 17th, either your a girl which means your insurance will be kinda ok, or your parents can afford to throw 3000- 4000 euros at the insurance company if your male.

Anyway good for you, and happy driving

Delta_ie

I think people mix up different people that are some times associated.
The Boy Racers and generally the readers of Max Power (don't mean to insult any readers here, but the mag does my head in) are the ones that generally do the above things like, neons, 8' exhaust, big spoilers more suited to aeroplanes, etc.

But then there are the car enthusiasts the tastefully change things on their cars to improve preformance, handeling and looks. They generally have nice cars and respect the law and other car drivers but get tarred with the same brush by the public and Gardi.

It would be good if people could stop tarring everyone with the same brush but it is funny when people complain about other peoples ignorance when they are ignorant about the subject themselves.

jezza

Sparky_S wrote:

You Lucky bastard, id love to be given a car for my 20th birthday never mind my 17th, either your a girl which means your insurance will be kinda ok, or your parents can afford to throw 3000- 4000 euros at the insurance company if your male.

Anyway good for you, and happy driving

Im a girl.
My insurance is only 2,700 yoyos for the year.
Peugot 206.. so excited.

Sleepy

If the car didn't cost 10k in the first place, it's highly doubtful that throwing 10k into it will result in a decent looking car. A tastefully done modded car can be a thing of beauty (think the cars from the fast and the furious movies etc.), a clapped out Punto with holes drilled in the exhaust to make it louder is just sad and an eyesore.

embee

My boyfriend has a 04 Ford Focus, and has it "modified", in that he has a bodykit on it and alloy wheels. He also had it lowered a little. He doesn't have a stupid spoiler on it, there are no max power or "no fear" stickers all over it and he doesn't have a banging sound system or a loud exhaust. To my mind, its modified tastefully, because it still looks like a Focus, albeit a lower one with bigger wheels.

My next door neighbour, on the other hand, has a 91 Toyota Starlet, and he has had the works put into his car. He has those nitrogen (I think.. its a propellant gas of some sorts) cylinders in the back, three chrome dials indicating I don't know what on the dashboard, a DVD player and two screens, alloys that spin, neon lights on the underside of the car, an obnoxiously loud sound system, a very loud exhaust, blacked out windows, bucket seats and a godawful spoiler that looks like a snowshovel. His car is a complete joke.

Oh yes, thought I'd just add... my insurance is a mere 825 euro. Fully comp. On a provisional. And I'm only 24. Tee hee.