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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    http://www.boards.ie/community/Forum18/HTML/000258-2.html

    Being rude to ODTR is not helping Ireland Offlines cause much really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭BNC


    i have to agree with the two guys. While I rarely post anything to the IOFFL forum (mainly because some of it is above me) i do read it a lot. but the top 3 or 4 posts really say it for themselves as to the arrogance of this person. while i agree there should be discussion this person cant seem to control themselves. he;s posting on the icdg forum now aswell where other users haven't come across him before in his Joee22 previous incarnation. he doesn't even bother to do any research before posting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    BNC dont lie you admitted you took me up wrong, you didnt read my post

    http://www.boards.ie/community/Forum13/HTML/000227.html
    i thought this was settled
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BNC:
    my apologies i read one of your post's incorrectly in regards sky. my other comments stand</font>



  • Subscribers Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭PhilipMarlowe


    Well with 13 or 14 posts per day average, you are leaving yourself open to posting a lot of slobber....
    Condense what you have to say into less posts, think about each one just a fraction more or (preferably) just go the fcuk away...
    ...or something™


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Wasn't SMAK's average per day higher?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭BNC


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:
    BNC dont lie you admitted you took me up wrong, you didnt read my post
    </font>


    Did I mention that in the post here? No.
    I was referring to this thread

    the only reason you were posting there is because you were warned to calm down on IOFFL.

    I'm not the Mod on ICDG,and am speaking personally, but from seeing what youv'e done in both your current and previous personas, I didn't want to see it happening on icdg, where I was a member before we came to boards.ie.

    [This message has been edited by BNC (edited 27-07-2001).]

    [This message has been edited by BNC (edited 27-07-2001).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    sorry i didnt realise you read mind, jesus, thats a nice trick, i dont have to explain why i post anything to you, because as you said your not a mod



  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    No, but I am.

    I'd like you to tone it down a little, your points are fine, but the way you are putting them accross is unacceptibly rude in a community forum.

    DeV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    something tell me people wont be happy with that, probably save you trouble if i left,

    people are very quick to email the admin and complain, but very slow to email the person involved to try and fix it,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,544 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">people are very quick to email the admin and complain, but very slow to email the person involved to try and fix it</font>

    With all due respect the only way this will be fixed is by you not anyone else.

    Why do you start fights everytime you disagree with someone, post quotes, links or whatever to back up your point of view but posts that say <A HREF="http://www.boards.ie/community/Forum18/HTML/000288.html&quot; TARGET=_blank> you know what, ill be at the seminar, if your that ****ed come talk to me then,
    it take two to tanglo and my dance card is full..or another example,same topic-->> stop talking crap you muppet </A>
    or
    you cant **** off to, your the son i wish id aborted
    is just asking for aggro.

    As i said before, i believe you are in you're in you're own way behind all that Ireland Offline stands for and as such, you are welcome, but please PLEASE tone it down.


    [This message has been edited by Longfield (edited 28-07-2001).]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    why would i be the one to walk away, as i said it take two to fight, and theres a big line of people dieing for a piece of me,

    these are the same people who ***** when theres trouble, i walked away from enough, and were has it got me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    thats it ive had it with that board, 3 people in the last 5 minute have had a pop at me, all i can say is bard is going to work now, no more holding back

    ioffl can go to hell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    Sounding a bit coldhearted here for a minute - yes things would probably be somewhat smoother here if u binned ure modem.

    The reason people are emailing admins to complain about your behavior is due to the fact that you do not listen to people. Countless numbers of other users have asked you to chill out and tone down the posts and comments (especially to important users like AC). You do not seem to want to listen to anyone unless they have "Admin" after their handle and perhaps not even then.

    For gods sake think before you post utter tripe in the future and remember, you could be talking to the people who will make broadband possible in this nation. You may be happy on your 56k connection but try not to mess up any chances of progression for the interested people.

    Ohh and as for "ioffl can go to hell" I'm sure when we have the same success as they did across the water you will have changed your tune somewhat.

    [This message has been edited by rymus (edited 28-07-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Don't react like that, if ppl try to **** you off then ignore them. Plus you draw this stuff on yourself by your phrasing and tone.

    Maybe you should just change your ID and tone down your arguments, that way ppl with an old score to settle won't be able to. Much better than just getting angrier.

    Just a thought.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rymus:

    You may be happy on your 56k connection but try not to mess up any chances of progression for the interested people.
    </font>
    do i sound like a happy person



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Ok being upset about ppl mocking your connection speed is a bit much. I'm sorry but anyone who mocks someone else for having a low connection speed is in some serious need of therapy.

    Just ignore ppl who say such, and stop feeling so sorry for yourself. Think about all those poor straving kids in Bangladesh with no internet access!!

    Things put in perspective?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Farls


    Can someone please delete this thread in the Ireland Offline forum
    http://www.boards.ie/community/Forum18/HTML/000291.html

    i think you can delete it Gladiator seeing as you started it...not too sure, if you can then please do because it is of no bearing on that board.

    thx Farls


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Wow, and Joe was going so well this time around. Looks like his natural disposition as an argumentative fu<kwit unable to take constructive criticism came to the surface once again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Eloquent, tasteful, and observing netequitte to the letter eh Castor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,819 ✭✭✭rymus


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Castor Troy:
    Wow, and Joe was going so well this time around. Looks like his natural disposition as an argumentative fu<kwit unable to take constructive criticism came to the surface once again.</font>

    here here

    And nesf - I know I need therapy, but lets not get off topic here ok? I wasnt mocking him on account of his connection speed, I was simply pointing out that we are all in the same boat here and what we dont need is someone posting smart comments and annoying the very people who are in a position to make things better for us. It would be hypocritical of me to 'mock' someone that uses the same connection method as myself and I'm sure if u read my post properly u'll see that I wasnt mocking him.

    [This message has been edited by rymus (edited 28-07-2001).]


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    Castor Troy "constructive criticism" is just another word for you to put people down, you seem to like that, getting involved inthings that dont concern you jsut to call someone a muppet or an a$$hole, you have a problem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭Kensai


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:
    you have a problem</font>

    From what I have seen, you are the one with the problem. YOu seem to think you know everything there is to know about whatever subject takes your interest, whether it's IOFFL, or something on the technology boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭amp


    What amazes me is the overwhelming inability of some members to ignore muppetry.

    Let's take a "real world" example:

    You're walking down a street and this guy starts talking to you but he's not making any sense. You're natural reaction? Ignore like it's going out of fashion.

    Will the world end if he says things that are just plain untrue? Do you argue back until the stranger starts shouting obscenities? Do you then call the police and demand he be locked up?

    IMO in the two threads Kix linked, the people responding to Gladiators nonsense are as much, if not more, to blame for the degradation of the threads as he is.


    Lunacy Abounds! GLminesweeper RO><ORS!
    "Boxes for show, Baskets for a pro" - [FCA]SyxPak

    [This message has been edited by amp (edited 28-07-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Just do what u do to Amp and all his new friends he brings along ignore them.... wink.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    honestly children, with threads like this, its no wonder i cant keep away.
    where else would i get a good dose of stupidity in the day?
    i reckon you all moan far too much about absolutely nothing, go out and get a life and stop wasting bandwidth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Kix


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amp:
    IMO in the two threads Kix linked, the people responding to Gladiators nonsense are as much, if not more, to blame for the degradation of the threads as he is.
    </font>

    You have a very good point Amp, don't think that I don't realize that. My reply was harsh. Still, as far as Gladiator is concerned, I've bitten my lip loads and loads of times. In fact, I think this is the first time I've stooped so low as to get into a slanging match with him. No one has a bottomless pit of patience.

    If you're in a conversation and someone keeps shouting over the top of it it's hard to ignore them for ever.

    K

    EDIT: I've been thinking some more on this. The last thing I want to do is to drag my own reputation on Boards down. If the consensus is that Gladiator deserves a break and that he's not really that bad then that's fine by me. I can keep out of the IOFFL forum myself.

    [This message has been edited by Kix (edited 28-07-2001).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    actually that would be a shame, and id hate to think i drove anybody of use away,

    i see no problem with you or i getting along, you were never the problem there, if i cant get along with you how can i get along with people who thought i should have been banned from day one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rymus:
    here here

    And nesf - I know I need therapy, but lets not get off topic here ok? I wasnt mocking him on account of his connection speed, I was simply pointing out that we are all in the same boat here and what we dont need is someone posting smart comments and annoying the very people who are in a position to make things better for us. It would be hypocritical of me to 'mock' someone that uses the same connection method as myself and I'm sure if u read my post properly u'll see that I wasnt mocking him.

    [This message has been edited by rymus (edited 28-07-2001).]
    </font>

    I didn't make myself clear, i wasn't directing my comments at you but rather at anyone who would be as you said that hypocritical.

    I didn't intend to insult you and if i did i apologise.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    The consensus stands. Gladiator, what I said is still my view on these boards.

    Your points are at least heart felt, you're way of expressing them abrupt if not rude. You need to do a little ignoring yourself.

    Calm down everyone or I'll moderate the IOFFL boards and trust me few of you will like that... smile.gif

    DeV.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭Red Moose


    I only recently even knew this forum existed, and as far as I can tell from the few weeks I have browsed it, there seems to be a large amount of undue hostility towards Gladiator's posts, regardless of the content, many users simply dismiss him or ridicule his posts without any real basis.

    In old "real" forums and BBS most of those people would have been banned; the other way around from what they think. Banding together and trying to evict someone, who can just as easily make a new account anyway, is pointless and is a very undemocratic and un-Internet way of dealing with things.

    In the years (many!) I ahve been using the net the only people who get "banned" from IRC channels or BBSs are thsoe who spam with pr0n, vulgarity or are simpyl trolling.

    Now, from what I have seen, there are a load of very naive people here who are doingt he trolling themselves. Gladiator posts with information he has heard, or read, website links, etc., . All the standard fare of an BBS that you can choose to believe or not believe. Looking back over the previous few weeks (months?) a lot of people do the typical troll thing, like implying that Gladiator should just shut up, read the rules, etc., .

    That is the behaviour of the typical kids who have flooded the net in recent years. He is doing no-one harm, and yet YOU spam HIM with troll responses. Very hypocritical......

    Typical wannabee elite hax0r types.........

    PS - wouldn't it be funny if in fact most of the anti-Gladiator members were actually Gladiator having a laugh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭Red Moose


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kensai:
    From what I have seen, you are the one with the problem. YOu seem to think you know everything there is to know about whatever subject takes your interest, whether it's IOFFL, or something on the technology boards.</font>

    The whole PURPOSE I feel of a BBS is that people can voice opinions without being shut down. I maybe post to boards that I have no idea about what the core knowledge level is, but I read the posts and learn (maybe). If you cannot CHOOSE to decide what is and is not true and/or readable, then how can you in any fair way say that someone's post is indeed true or not.

    It's no offence that someone should post something incorrect, if people didn't and weren't corrected, there'd be no point. New views and opinions, rumours, etc., are all part of a BBS. I see no harm in allowing that as long as it is not offensive to some people.

    But then again, the very idea of an opinion that is not aligned with one's own seems the core of this discussion. It's very much an old Irish way of dealing with things - everyone has to agree with each other because oh my god I couldn't handle if everyone didn't like me....

    Wuss.

    If everyone agreed with everyone else (like is being implied over and over again from the millions......and the millions of anti-Gladiator posts) it would be very dull. If you can't argue properly, or debate with decent facts, don't just shout about "read the rules Gladiator" "ban Gladiator, he says stuff I don't agree with" and so on.

    Needless to say, I'll probably be banned for all this, but there you go.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    I've been steadfastly avoiding both this thread and the one on Ireland Offline - the latter of which was childish in the extreme I might add - but the time has come...
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">there seems to be a large amount of undue hostility towards Gladiator's posts, regardless of the content, many users simply dismiss him or ridicule his posts without any real basis.</font>

    Well, I've been on boards.ie for several months now, and on the Ireland Offline forum since it was started, and I don't believe that's true. Gladiator's previous handle was Joe22, and he did the same thing back then on the Technology board and others. He got banned then, and that demonstrates just how annoying he was, because the administrators here are lax to ban someone unless they're really over the top.

    To add to that, shortly after he was banned there was an attack on boards.ie, where someone set up an automated script to pop old posts back up and disturb the whole fabric of certain forums on boards.ie for at least two days. I don't think it was ever proved that Joe22 was responsible, but there's no doubt in my mind it was him, and I have no problem with coming out and saying it publicly. However the admins let him back in, and he was reasonably well-behaved for a while.

    But that's changed now. He's posting too much and he's not learning, and it's becoming intolerable. No, there's nothing inherently wrong with posting too much, but when those posts are disruptive and damaging to boards.ie and the forum he's posting in, it's not doing anyone any good. This is particularly true in a community forum like Ireland Offline, which has a very real and very just cause.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">In old "real" forums and BBS most of those people would have been banned; the other way around from what they think. Banding together and trying to evict someone, who can just as easily make a new account anyway, is pointless and is a very undemocratic and un-Internet way of dealing with things.</font>

    No-one is trying to evict Gladiator, they just want him to calm down and think before he posts. The way he's posting now is disruptive and annoying. For example the majority of the time he posts two messages in quick succession, which just shows that he's not sitting back and thinking about what he's writing, he's shooting from the hip. That's tolerable every now and then - hell, we all do it - but not all the time.

    And, I might add, if you read the thread relating to this on Ireland Offline, the only "banding together" that's going on is people trying to advise Gladiator, to try and help him avoid these problems occurring again. Unfortunately though, he doesn't take any notice. FYI, I was the person who asked the moderator, Bard, to either warn or ban Gladiator. I did that because: 1) he's been warned already and he hasn't changed his behaviour; and 2) he's getting consistently worse. Unfortunately, Bard is on holiday at the moment, and if I'm honest I find that all too coincidental.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">In the years (many!) I have been using the net the only people who get "banned" from IRC channels or BBSs are thsoe who spam with pr0n, vulgarity or are simpyl trolling.</font>

    Gladiator is a regular troll. But even aside from that, think back to the BBS's of yesteryear, did they have rules and guidelines? Yes, they did. And when people followed the rules they worked, and when people didn't, the BBS's didn't.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Now, from what I have seen, there are a load of very naive people here who are doingt he trolling themselves. Gladiator posts with information he has heard, or read, website links, etc., . All the standard fare of an BBS that you can choose to believe or not believe. Looking back over the previous few weeks (months?) a lot of people do the typical troll thing, like implying that Gladiator should just shut up, read the rules, etc., .</font>

    What's wrong with telling him to read the rules? Rules are there to be obeyed; guidelines are there to be followed. And the rules and guidelines in affect are there for a reason, they promote intelligent discussion and aim to keep things on-topic and avoid flame wars. Yes, Gladiator posts intelligent comments every now and then, but an awful lot of the time he promotes myths on the subject matter and consistently refuses to learn when he's corrected. And when he is corrected, he has little temper tantrums. That's not exactly helping the Ireland Offline cause - and it is a cause.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">That is the behaviour of the typical kids who have flooded the net in recent years. He is doing no-one harm, and yet YOU spam HIM with troll responses. Very hypocritical......</font>

    I've been on the net for five or six years now. I also manage several mailing lists and large forums on an ongoing basis. I'm also a system administrator. I know what's what; I know what's right and what's wrong. Gladiator is wrong. He needs to learn basic netiquette.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Typical wannabee elite hax0r types.........</font>

    I find that offensive.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">PS - wouldn't it be funny if in fact most of the anti-Gladiator members were actually Gladiator having a laugh!</font>

    No, but I'm willing to bet that at least one of the people who came out in support is Gladiator. And no, I'm not talking about you.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Needless to say, I'll probably be banned for all this, but there you go.</font>

    And don't you see that as childish? The admins on boards.ie don't ban people for expressing an opinion unless it's disruptive. That comment smacks of Gladiators threats to disrupt the Ireland Offline boards if he's banned. Surely you can't tell me that's not disruptive behaviour.

    One more FYI - Gladiator seems to think I "told" on him, which I find childish in the extreme. Just to clear up, I didn't "tell" anyone. I posted publicly asking for the moderator to either warn him or have him banned. Now he's been warned, so let's just leave it at that. But let this be his final warning please.

    adam

    PS. And a final comment - even if a number of people did come together to complain and have Gladiator warned or banned, I don't see anything wrong with that. It's called democracy.

    [This message has been edited by dahamsta (edited 28-07-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Lord Khan


    over 4000 members ... maybe it's just me but I think there is only really 200-300 people the rest are just the same person.

    I have no feelings about Gladitor one way or the other. I must agree with the comment even if misquote and misspelt "It takes two to tango"... the problem if one exists lies as much with the people complaining as with the person spouting the crap, joe22 or gladiator it makes no difference.

    Life is full of idiots it is up to us to get past them. Don't fight with idiots they drag you down to their level an beat you with experince. If people want to complain they shouldn't pick such ... well the only word I can think is childish... the only reason this thread was started was to draw attention from a public audience. They should have emailed gladitor first. doesn't take a brain to actually click on profile and email user.

    Fun how gladiator said he was leaving ... yet manages to make a few more posts ... stating the exact same thing each time.

    These forums were created for discussion not for childish whimpering and moaning as is becoming more common place.

    Can I just take this opertunity to just address Castor Troy and Crashor ... as Mod's you're suppose to act with *some* diginity and be above this kinda crap yet I've noticed you two and a few of the others seem to love jumping in on this kind of rubbish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭BNC


    I didn't want to post here again but, I certainly didn't want to see Gladiator banned nor did the person who sarted this post, or the people who were trying to ask him to calm down. I think what started the whole thing off was his rudeness to an official of the ODTR who Ireland Off LIne are trying to deal with, I think most people would agree that this kind of thing doesn't promote a very professional image for a group who are begining to get widespread press coverage and whose forum is frequented by the press and officials from the companies in question. Gladiator does indeed have a little knowledge in the area and even though I don't post to this forum I have learnt a lot from some of his posts and from others. I am certainly not asking for him to be muzzled because I think some of the points he makes are valid, what I do think is he needs to structure those points a little more carefully and respect others views aswell.

    Quote by Lord Khan:
    "They should have emailed gladitor first. doesn't take a brain to actually click on profile and email user."

    Quote from Bard on 25-07-2001 06:51 PM: from http://www.boards.ie/community/Forum18/HTML/000276.html
    I've sent you a polite email already within the past while asking you to calm down.

    edit---
    To correct a name quoted.




    [This message has been edited by BNC (edited 29-07-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭bkehoe


    If Gladiator stopped posting rubbish, I think he'd be a good member, but from http://www.boards.ie/community/Forum18/HTML/000276.html especially, the thread turned nasty cause of his contribution.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Bob the Unlucky Octopus


    Wasn't the whole karma system supposed to prevent the start of Admin witch-hunts like this one? C'mon peeps...DeV has mailed him, Karma's probably been set, and Gladiator's learned his lesson even if he ain't going to back down. Isn't it time we dropped the issue?

    Bob the Unlucky Octopus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭Red Moose


    RE: Stuff "dahamsta" wrote:

    Didn't mean to offend........

    OK then, I had no idea that he was joe22 or whoever, and had been banned before. I guess a "history" of disruption changes things; that's maybe why the comments about him were so short and of the RTFM type?

    I couldn't get why the posts shouting down Gladiator were so short (didn't seem "normal" for people arguing?)- unless of course as I now know that this thing happened before (it's difficult to get a grasp of the playing field if the game's already been played wink.gif ).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    **** you dahamsta you could get me in allot of **** by accusing me of that, it didnt happen as you say right after i was banned but about a month or 2, that just goes to show how much of a gruge you people hold,

    the point that it may have been me was brought to devs attention and he clearly didnt think it was, so what right have to to say it was me,

    example of you being obsessed with me are here http://www.boards.ie/community/Forum18/HTML/000292.html
    accussing some poor guy of being me,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    BNC that would be a good point except for the fact I emailed bard first to try and clam things down, I was the one to put my hand out in peace, and I was the one that had it slapped away

    [This message has been edited by Gladiator (edited 29-07-2001).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭Kensai


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Red Moose:
    An idiot is me.</font>

    I agree, anyhow.
    Gladiator shouts down people who disagree with him when clearly he doesnt have a clue, thusly the "him thinking he knows everything about everything".

    Offering an opinion is different than shouting at people that you are right and they arent and the only reason people are disagreeing is because they all hate me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭yankinlk


    Gladiator is the reason I put my vote in for post count and date registered to be displayed again.

    I saw him born as Joe22 and watched him "grow" his post count 2 or 3 times past my own. (we post on many of the same forums) After he was banned and came back I watched him pass me out again...and I thought I did quite a lot of posting seeing as how I dont post in rambling discussions like After Hours. I really stick to helping out on Technology and NETs/Comms and I like to do a bit on the games sections.

    Gladiator: Many of these places are for 70 percent reading and 30 percent (or less) posting.

    I dont want him gone, I just want him to chill his boots and read more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kensai:
    I agree, anyhow.
    Gladiator shouts down people who disagree with him when clearly he doesnt have a clue, thusly the "him thinking he knows everything about everything".

    Offering an opinion is different than shouting at people that you are right and they arent and the only reason people are disagreeing is because they all hate me.
    </font>

    hate is a very strong word, i dont think anybody "hates" me, maybe the the way i act but not me, if you really hated someone you have never met, then you have bigger problems then me,

    and as for shouting down people i disagree with, its tit for tat, someone starts it just a little and then someone else joins in and before you know it, its turns into a slaging match, but i really dont think you know me well enough to be makeing swiping statements about my character


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Dustaz


    I feel I should post here to try and explain my reasons for flaming gladiator when I did. I know its not the best thing for certain observers to see on the IOFFL board.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amp:
    Let's take a "real world" example:

    You're walking down a street and this guy starts talking to you but he's not making any sense. You're natural reaction? Ignore like it's going out of fashion.

    </font>

    Sorry amp, but this is not a good example.
    The problem is that hes not just talking to one person. Hes posting what varies from misinformation to childish rants to a forum read by many people. A better example would be someone in a courtroom or a public debate.
    When gladiator posts something rubbish and he is corrected, he usually either responds in a very aggressive manner or ignores it entirely and makes the same mistake later. This results in people starting to believe the wrong thing. There was many examples of this on the Tech board in his Joe22 incarnation.
    I would also mirror what kix said and say that I find it very hard to bite my tongue indefinitely.

    Lord khan said that people should have e-mailed him first. Clearly this doesn't work as the joe22 episode showed.

    I don't care if hes banned or not, I already ignore most of his posts for they seem to generally be along the lines of 'waaah, i dont have proper access, waaah, i cant download 450 gigs a day waaah waah'. He lashes out at EVERY organization in the Irish internet setup, from Eircom to Esat to the ODTR simply because he cant get what he wants from them. We are all irritated with the situation and that is why Ireland Offline was set up, but 'THEY WONT GIVE ME WHAT I WANT SO THEY SUCK' type posts aren't going to change anything.
    Finally, veiled threats that translate as 'Come and get me at a public meeting if you think your hard enough' are not softening my opinion of him in any way.
    So, I apologise for failing to ignore him and continuing the cycle of flames, but they are my reasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    it seems to me people are just waiting for me to get somethign wrong to jump,

    i dont respond when people take an aggressive tone in correcting me, things like" shut up you muppet your wrong" and "everything you say it utter crap"

    see http://www.boards.ie/community/Forum18/HTML/000290.html

    dahamsta was just waiting for me to make a mistake he jumped right in, he called me a troll for asking why you thought it was SDSL when it could(and later proven) to be adsl,
    He siad if the upload and download speed was the same it was sdsl(later he edited it to cover his mistake, hes not even perfect)

    do you think it was fair to call me a troll, i spoted your "mistake" before even hubson did and i didnt give you a boloxing over it, i just said fair enough, do you think dahamsta would have been so kind if it had of been me instead of you, he would have told me to stop taking crap,(aggressive tone) to which i would reply in kind,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    i didnt say that, you totaly miss quoted me,

    i said ill be at the seminar, and it you really have a problem with me ill be there,

    i wasnt asking for a fight, but if anybody has a problem with me to come up and talk to me in person, i explained this later in the topic, but you clearly didnt read,

    how come every time i attempt to settle this people take it as a sign to give me ****,
    I email bard, so the rest of you thing lets not try anymore and just get him banned, I offer to discuss any of the points raised here in person and its taken as treats, its seems like im doing all the giving while the est of you sit back and pass judgement


    [This message has been edited by Gladiator (edited 29-07-2001).]


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,659 ✭✭✭✭dahamsta


    i dont respond when people take an aggressive tone in correcting me, things like" shut up you muppet your wrong" and "everything you say it utter crap"

    Yes you do, in fact you do it all too regularly. I'm not going to waste my time searching down posts that demonstrate this, because everyone who knows you is all too aware of your propensity to do this. More importantly, I believe the two phrases you used describe you to a tee. You're nearly always wrong, and what you say is nearly always utter crap.

    later he edited it to cover his mistake, hes not even perfect

    I'm not perfect, and I don't make pretence of being perfect, but I certainly didn't and don't edit my posts to "to cover my mistake". Any edits I do to my posts are purely to correct grammer and spelling, because I take pride in making an effort to make my posts readable and understandable. It's a pity you don't take the time to do the same thing, and it's a pity that all my hard work invariably goes to waste on you.

    I didn't apologise to you because I don't feel the need to apologise to people like you. When you start being respectful to me and others on the boards, I'll do the same for you. Until then, I'll treat your posts as the ignorant mutterings of an idiot that they are.

    Some people have come out in defense of you, saying that a lot of your posts make sense. I refute that absolutely. Your posts are invariably ignorant, nonsensical and demonstrate a complete incapability of learning.

    Others have made the suggestion that I, and others like me who are dismayed and annoyed by your behaviour, ignore you and just get on with it. However I can't and won't do that, for a very simple reason that I've explained several times on boards.ie - most of your posts are misleading and use arrogant language that make new and naive users think you're stating something as fact. Because of this, and your general disruptive behaviour, you're propogating myths and misinformation that aren't helping the Ireland Offline cause one jot.

    You're disruptive, arrogant and foolish, and I personally believe that you're either: a) an ill-mannered pubescent teenager; b) an even more ill-mannered adult with no capacity for politeness or understanding; or c) just someone using boards.ie as some kind of sick entertainment.

    At this point I would like to reiterate and restate my request to the boards.ie administrators to ban Gladiator, and make an attempt to keep him from signing up under different usernames (he's already done this at least once on the Ireland Offline board). I realise the inherent difficulties involved in this but I believe Gladiator is a bad apple that is doing damage to the boards.ie community that I am a member of.

    Hell, make a poll and make it democratic. I can guarantee that if there isn't any vote rigging attempted by Gladiator - which of course will happen - Gladiator would be out on his posterior in next to no time.

    And finally, on the matter of violence, I'm a pacifist, even a coward if you want to use words against me. But I'll state this on the record and in public: Gladiator, if you attend the Ireland Offline seminar and you come next to near me, I'll take you outside and pop you so hard you won't know what hit you. And I'll have a big grin on my face when I do it.

    (Alternatively, if you are in fact a child, I'll tell your mommy on you. *snigger*)

    adam

    [This message has been edited by dahamsta (edited 29-07-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Farls


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Gladiator:
    all i can say is bard is going to work now, no more holding back

    ioffl can go to hell
    </font>

    I wasn't going to post anymore against you Gladiator because all you do is pi** me off, its plain to see that you rarely ever think before you post and what annoyed me the most in the first place (i thought u were sound even funny to start off) was the sheer amount of crap you posted on the IOFFL board.

    Like its turning into a waste of time even looking at the board because everytime i go onto it you've started a new thread complaining about broadband or the lack off where you live all you seem to do is bit** and moan about cable or dsl or ntl or adsl or ****in sdsl. Which all well and good once or twice but its just constant with you. Your just showing to be a spoilt kid.

    Another thing is your jealous of dahamsta and hudson you HAVE to argue with them constantly when its clear that they know more on these subjects than the rest of us put together.

    As for banning you...theres really no point you will just log on with a new identity and do all this over again or you'll try and mess up the boards because your an imature kid.

    What i'd ask for here is that your post's be made limited so that you can only post maybe 5 times a day which is more than most ppl post in a week.

    I think it was Castor Troy who called you an arguementative fu<kwit...he summed up excactly what you are in that simple phrase.

    Farls



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    respect is earned,

    and you have a mental problem, that guy on ioffl board isnt me, are you nuts or something,

    Farls shut up allready, for a guy without an opinion on we you sure do talk allot about me, i dont recall ever getting in a slaging match with hubson either,

    you dont know me, yet you persume to, theres no talking to you, im going no were, and that is your problem




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Farls


    I am sick of having to state my opinion on you which i do have! ie. you post WAY too much crap wasting everybodies time.

    Farls


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Gladiator


    if you read my posts they cant be crap and if you dont how do you know their crap,

    everybody has a right to an opinion, and i wont hassel you about yours on me, have i ever gothen into a slaging match with you?


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