Northern Ireland

Geiger

Since most of the people that use the boards are from the south, I just wanna ask how you view the North? I'm not looking for anything specific, maybe you think of it the same as the rest of Ireland. Just interested...

Tar.Aldarion

lol ya i do thing of it as the same as the rest of ireland tbh...

LadyJ

It's part of the island but it's a seperate nation.

Tar.Aldarion

although thats true,i never have thought about it like that.when i go to belfast etc i dont think anything is different from the rest of ireland because it's the same island.

Pet

I'd see it as a part of the UK to be honest, a separate entity on the same island.

Big Ears

Pet wrote:

I'd see it as a part of Britain to be honest, a separate entity on the same island.

technically its a part of the UK but not part of Britain , but that is very technical .

county

it is but try telling ian he is not a brit

solas

I don't really think about it very often. It's northern Ireland, a seperate entity. I suppose I don't see it as being the same as the rest of Ireland.

simu

They're all mad up there, or so people say.

Gazza22

Well for a few years i had a fear of Northern Ireland because i heard people from the Republic get a really hard time when they go there but i went to N.Ireland last year...all went fine so in my book it's alright.

But i admit, when i think of N.Ireland, the first thing that enters my mind is a hate for England...

Tar.Aldarion

ya but i love all the people i've met from england.they are nicer now it seems :P

Gazza22

Yeah Tar, i would agree with you on that...but i will continue to hate the British government until there is a united Ireland

Tar.Aldarion

ok i've started my own plan.;) my bro and sister now live in britain...ie we are slowly going to colonise britain and then there will be a united british isles under the power of the irish :P

Kwekubo

When I think of Northern Ireland, I feel a little depressed. I'm no crazy Shinner now, but it looks like partition really has succeeded in dividing Ireland into two communities. I get the feeling that a united Ireland, some way down the line, will be the result of all this, but I may be wrong.

solas

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joe.

solas wrote:

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Exactly

Ladypawpaw

gazza22 wrote:

Yeah Tar, i would agree with you on that...but i will continue to hate the British government until there is a united Ireland

Why? Seems a tad petty to me. The British government and the vast majority of the British public would happily hand over the north tommorow if it was possible, it is costing them loads of money. Also, the current British government have done wonders for the north.

By the way, there never was a "united Ireland" before the brits invaded.

Ladypawpaw

gazza22 wrote:

But i admit, when i think of N.Ireland, the first thing that enters my mind is a hate for England...

That is just as open minded and mature as the paddy-bashings in the UK during the IRA's bombing frenzy in the 70's.

Tar.Aldarion

''Why? Seems a tad petty to me.'' lol at first i thought you were calling me petty for liking english people.
there are reasons to hate the english gov but his is not one.

solas

as far as I can see North and south are already united in their cause for peace and an end to hatred and stuff.... I don't really care if Norn Iron decide to draw themselves a new flag and declare monarchy to the union, as long as we can all get some peace.... and quiet.

joe.

1. This is the wrong forum. There's already a topic in politics on this

2. This topic is a load of c0ck

Mr.Nice Guy

LadyJ wrote:

It's part of the island but it's a seperate nation.

It's a separate state but it's part of the Irish nation.

stevenmu

When I hear fellow southerners views on NI I'm always amazed, and a little ashamed, at how quickly our collective memories have forgotten what life was like under British occupation. As far as I'm concerned (and I'll admit that I'm not very good at history), the original fight for independance was less about flags, monarchies and religious beliefs than it was about freedom, human rights and democracy. I also see that as being the basis for the IRAs modern fight for a united Ireland. That's not to say I agree with the violence, I think the same goals could have been achieved much easier through peacefull means. Anyhow, I wouldn't currently see NI as just another part of Ireland, or just another part of England, as long as it remains occupied territory then that's exactly how I'll see it.

Sarky

Northern Ireland is a funny old place.

Nice to visit, but I wouldn't live there. Mostly because of the pathetic childish attitudes of those on both sides of the "It's OUR land not yours!" argument. As if it actually matters. Honestly, I've seen more mature settlements in primary school playgrounds over who's "it" or whether that goal was really a goal because James is a big girl and anyway he loves his mammy.

Nuttzz

they are all oddballs up there, the drinking water supply should be laced with prozac from June to September...

StupidLikeAFox

Sarky wrote:

Northern Ireland is a funny old place.

Nice to visit, but I wouldn't live there. Mostly because of the pathetic childish attitudes of those on both sides of the "It's OUR land not yours!" argument. As if it actually matters. Honestly, I've seen more mature settlements in primary school playgrounds over who's "it" or whether that goal was really a goal because James is a big girl and anyway he loves his mammy.

Yeah but it went OVER the jumper!

solas

stevenmu wrote:

When I hear fellow southerners views on NI I'm always amazed, and a little ashamed, at how quickly our collective memories have forgotten what life was like under British occupation. As far as I'm concerned (and I'll admit that I'm not very good at history), the original fight for independance was less about flags, monarchies and religious beliefs than it was about freedom, human rights and democracy. I also see that as being the basis for the IRAs modern fight for a united Ireland. That's not to say I agree with the violence, I think the same goals could have been achieved much easier through peacefull means. Anyhow, I wouldn't currently see NI as just another part of Ireland, or just another part of England, as long as it remains occupied territory then that's exactly how I'll see it.

I haven't forgotten the past, I'm just living in the present. I think the resurgance of nationalism/patriotism stems from the current US climate...and I don't really want to buy into it.

lacuna

stevenmu wrote:

When I hear fellow southerners views on NI I'm always amazed, and a little ashamed, at how quickly our collective memories have forgotten what life was like under British occupation.

I think it's just that most of us weren't alive during the Britsh occupation...

BossArky

Perhaps a bit off topic, but let me tell you the three sounds that drive me crazy:

1) Bag Pipes
2) A Northern Ireland accent
3) A Cork accent.

I shall cower and await the volley of abuse.

Mr.Nice Guy

BossArky wrote:

Perhaps a bit off topic, but let me tell you the three sounds that drive me crazy:

1) Bag Pipes
2) A Northern Ireland accent
3) A Cork accent.

I shall cower and await the volley of abuse.

You don't like bagpipes? You're beneath contempt.

Hydroquinone

Mr.Nice Guy wrote:

It's a separate state but it's part of the Irish nation.

Fraid not. If it was part of the Irish nation - whatever that might mean - then citizens of it would be able to vote in Irish constitutional referenda. Or in Irish elections.
Which they're not.
How ironic, eh? When the last referendum we had concerned itself with the rights of who should or should not have Irish citizenship and yet any Irish citizen resident anywhere else in the world, apart from here didn't get a vote. Even those living on the same island. And why? Because it's a different country.