Raw Eggs

scuba steve

Is drinking raw eggs good for you?

poobum

cant that giv you salmonela?

DrIndy

more likely campylobacter, but also salmonella. Results in profuse diaorrhea and projectile vomiting and being sick on the toilet both-ends-at-once for a week. :eek:

Cook them first.

Eggs are very high in protein, but aren't that great for you too often, they are high in cholesterol.

Frankieboy

Theres is no advantages whatsoever in having eggs raw.

scuba steve

I didnt think they would be good for you. I heard it before sometime and just forgot about it and then i heard it in That 70'sShow a while ago. Boy would i have been embarressed if I believed it

DrIndy

There are a few myths about concerning certain foods, its good to clear them up though. Always cook animal sourced foods as otherwise you do run a real chance of getting a nasty infection. Campylobacter is much more common now than Salmonella.

OFDM

It always concerns me that restaurants/chefs use raw eggs to make mayonaise. Even tv chefs with no regard to food poisioning.

DrIndy

Eggs should be sterile, but sometimes they get coated in faeces as they exit and campylobacter gets through. In humans, we have E. coli which lives quietly in our gut and help us get vitamins and suppresses other more dangerous bacteria by competing with them for nutrients and preventing them taking over (if someone is on a broadspectrum antibiotic for a while, you can eradicate E. coli and people get pseudomembraneous colitis - a dangerous infection). Likewise, campylobacter lives happily in chickens in the same way and does them no harm.

Its when humans get campylobacter all hell breaks loose.

Always cook eggs and chicken well - I tend to always overcook them to be sure.

incisor71

Urgh, the very thought of raw eggs slithering down my throat into an empty stomach..... **shiver**

Of course, me being allergic to even the smell of raw or cooked eggs doesn't help - such a shame, as they seem like a very convenient source of protein!

My older brother used to swallow eggs raw in the morningtimes when he was training with the Bullworker machine .... I think it was mostly for shock value.

Easygainer

I think it's less than 1/10000 have salmonella so I wouldn;t worry too much, but I gather that the albumin (egg protein) can't be properly assimilated when the egg is raw, thus making Rocky's regime hardcore, but useless.

Frying also isn't the best for egg protein, as the lattices it forms ruins that much of the egg (only a small amount, but for perfect eggs, microwave or boil)....

Gillo

I've heard of people doing it, but I wouldn't recomment it boild the egg, frying will just cover the egg in fat which you don't want.

Also I can just imagine the doctors face as when he tracks the food poisoning back to your raw egg.

RonanC

DrIndy wrote:

Eggs are very high in protein, but aren't that great for you too often, they are high in cholesterol.

Not exactly true: http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/seta/2001/11/08/stories/2001110800170400.htm

Study in question:

Egg phosphatidylcholine decreases the lymphatic absorption of cholesterol in rats.

Jiang Y, Noh SK, Koo SI.

Department of Human Nutrition, Kansas State University, Manhattan, KS 66506, USA.

This study was conducted to determine the effects of phosphatidylcholine (PC) from different sources on intestinal absorption of cholesterol. Male Sprague-Dawley rats were fed an AIN-93G diet containing soybean oil for 4 wk. Each rat with lymph cannula was infused via a duodenal catheter at 3.0 mL/h for 8 h with a lipid emulsion [in micromol: 451.8 triolein, 27.8 kBq 14C-cholesterol (CH), 20.7 CH, 3.6 alpha-tocopherol, and 100 PC in 24 mL PBS, pH 6.6]. The PC in the lipid emulsion was egg PC (EPC), hydrogenated egg PC (HPC), or soy PC (SPC). The EPC in the lipid emulsion markedly lowered the lymphatic absorption of 14C-CH (24.7 +/- 2.5% dose) compared with SPC (34.9 +/- 1.2%) and a lipid emulsion containing no PC (NPC) (30.8 +/- 2.0%). The HPC further lowered the absorption of 14C-CH to 21.1 +/- 1.4% dose. The outputs of phospholipid were unaffected by the source of PC infused (EPC, 32.2 +/- 1.7; HPC, 31.8 +/- 1.6; and SPC, 32.9 +/- 1.8 micromol/8 h). Compared with NPC (595.0 +/- 59.5 micromol), the total output of fatty acids over 8 h was increased significantly by SPC (685.4 +/- 55.8 micromol), but decreased by HPC (467.7 +/- 28.4 micromol). The total lymphatic output of oleic acid (18:1), the major fatty acid infused in the form of triolein, did not differ among the NPC (448.0 +/- 58.2 micromol/8 h), SPC (457.9 +/- 52.3 micromol/8 h) and EPC (412.9 +/- 20.8 micromol/8 h) groups, but was significantly lower in the HPC group (262.0 +/- 24.1 micromol/8 h). The findings provide the first evidence that EPC markedly lowers the lymphatic absorption of cholesterol under in vivo conditions. The inhibitory effect of EPC appears to be due to the higher degree of saturation of its acyl groups relative to SPC, suggesting that the intestinal absorption of egg cholesterol may be reduced by the presence of PC in egg yolk.

OFDM

RonanC wrote:

Not exactly true: http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/seta/2001/11/08/stories/2001110800170400.htm

"in rats" - not the best source in the word.

RonanC

OFDM wrote:

"in rats" - not the best source in the word.

How do you think most studies of a similar ilk are carried out?

Gillo

RonanC wrote:

How do you think most studies of a similar ilk are carried out?

On rats??
Am I right, do I win a prize????

FX Meister

The white contains pure protein as far as I can remember. I've been eating raw eggs for 20 years now and I've never been sick as a result.

OFDM

RonanC wrote:

How do you think most studies of a similar ilk are carried out?

They're not all directly applicable to humans however.

Easygainer

Just mix whites with yolks - I take 5 whites for every yolk... Also, it increases HDL (good cholesterol) so it is actually beneficial

*Those egg creeps got to you too Lenny!*

#No they didn't.... eep eep#

positron

I used to gulp down two raw eggs every morning when I was in my teens - the only bad thing about them is the taste!

scuba steve

So in conclusion, it does no harm to you if you drink raw eggs? (unless youre highly allergic to them of course)

poobum

scuba steve wrote:

So in conclusion, it does no harm to you if you drink raw eggs? (unless youre highly allergic to them of course)

no more harm then if you eat cooked eggs unless you are very unlucky and get salmonela which i think was statd above to happen 1 in 10000

OFDM

poobum wrote:

no more harm then if you eat cooked eggs unless you are very unlucky and get salmonela which i think was statd above to happen 1 in 10000

But what's the percentage of occurance of campylobacter in eggs?

poobum

i think its higher then that of salmonela but cudnt find any accurate results for it on the net!

FX Meister

I don't eat them raw on their own. I usually blend three whites and one yoke with some super milk and a bananna or two. And for taste I often through in a half measure of Kahlua.

poobum

FX Meister wrote:

I don't eat them raw on their own. I usually blend three whites and one yoke with some super milk and a bananna or two. And for taste I often through in a half measure of Kahlua.

whats kahlua?

FX Meister

It's an alcoholic drink, mix it with Baileys and milk to get a mudslide, tastes superb.

poobum

so you are trying to get fit yet drinking alcohol....dude this is not a good idea! kinda go against each other!

DrIndy

Campylobacter is much more common than salmonella now.... don't know any off hand stats though.........

Just cook them..... Advice also says that cooking them is just as good....

OFDM

Campybolacter info from the CDC in America:

"The organism is not usually spread from person to person, but this can happen if the infected person is a small child or is producing a large volume of diarrhea"

Cook those eggs!

FX Meister

I already am fit. As I said, the odd time I add kahlua. And it's only half a shot of a weak drink anyway. I don't drink that much anyway. So no, they don't go against each other.

poobum wrote:

so you are trying to get fit yet drinking alcohol....dude this is not a good idea! kinda go against each other!