Smashing Pumpkins To Reunite

hada

Yep, it's true. Hear from the man himself:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/acrobat/2005-06/18118271.pdf


Don't really know what to expect myself, but it's good news regardless.

doodoodoo

yayyy. i still wanna hear SP. though corgan's solo work is ****e ><

Riamfada

Yes!!!! Oh dear sweet jebus there is a god. Thats the best news Ive had all year

Bungalow Bill

Blah lousy solo projects like Frank Black so he returns to old band for quick buck, couldn't care less. :rolleyes:

ronano

It doesnt seem to be an actual reformation,it smacks of pr stunt/billy wanting to play the pumpkin songs live without guilt. I hope they don't reform tbh,eh

Alana

C'mon, the guy has a new album out, stir, stir, stir-wow look at that more album sales....hmmm. cynical-moi? :rolleyes:

I'd love to see it happen, but I think mr corgan maybe fibbing

knobbles

Alana wrote:

C'mon, the guy has a new album out, stir, stir, stir-wow look at that more album sales....hmmm. cynical-moi? :rolleyes:

I'd love to see it happen, but I think mr corgan maybe fibbing

from another thread, an interesting rant at a recent gig...

http://www.lindastrawberry.com/bcspeech.mp3

Rozie

They better have D'Arcy back

Mr Rivers

Looks like Jimmy Chamberlain has answered the call!

Drummer Jimmy Chamberlain will heed Bill Corgan's call to regroup the Smashing Pumpkins.

Last week, former Smashing Pumpkins front man Billy Corgan took out full-page ads in several Chicago newspapers revealing his intention to reform The Smashing Pumpkins. The band’s former drummer, Jimmy Chamberlain, told the Chicago Tribune that he’d pledged his allegiance to the reunion.

Chamberlian kept a relatively low profile since the Pumpkins’ demise, recording a sole album with his new band, The Jimmy Chamberlain Complex. The self-titled album came out earlier this year

ALTHO! Here's what another journalist had to say

Here's how it works: Established band breaks up. It gets back together. It's a shadow of its former self.

That's the broad stroke. Let's look at the finer print.

The band may still sound great live. It may still fill auditoriums, excite fans. But when it comes to being a functioning, forward-moving artistic endeavor -- when it comes to creating new works -- the band never approaches the level of its prime.

Spicy Lauren

I dont think the Pumpkins have done anything good since Mellon Collie

PiE

Well then you're wrong. Adore was by far their finest hour.

RobertFoster

PiE wrote:

Well then you're wrong. Adore was by far their finest hour.

I too prefer Adore.

knobbles

damn right, Adore is a masterpiece!

shame, behold, for martha is the best 3-in-a-row on any of their albums for me

cormie

Support for Adore? wow! A rare sight, best 3 combo? I'd go with best 4, stick blank page in there too. 4 really amazing powerful songs. Shame is so powerful, the drum machine is so powerful in that song, each beat signifies the sorrow and loss of Jimmy. Adore isn't the only good thing after Mellon Collie either... there is plenty of other great material, glass and the ghost children, stand inside your love, I could go on..

shuushh

ah thats good it was looking there for awhile that billy corgan was under the deluded impression that he was good without the smashing pumpkins

hada

I think the fact of the matter with corgan is that, the pumpkins broke up prematurely, possibly over reasons which did not constitute a complete break-up of the band. Maybe going on hiatus for awhile, but not such a drastic action as they took.

So while the whole world was aware of this for years, it's taken billy corgan another band, an uneventful solo career and a midlife crisis to understand exactly what he had done wrong.

So now, once the smashing pumpkins do get back together, you can expect the whole world will be keen to here what type of music they produce again, good or bad.

And you can bet yourself that the smashing pumpkins will never be in such high demand.

knobbles

cormie wrote:

Shame is so powerful, the drum machine is so powerful in that song, each beat signifies the sorrow and loss of Jimmy.

He lost his mother, Martha, during the making of Adore

cormie

I didn't mean it like that though Allot of people have a grudge against Adore because of the drum machine, I'm just saying the drum machine isn't just a drum machine, it's a sign of loss of Jimmy, as a drummer. It's especially evident in Shame... get me?

secrecy_ie

Hmmm, seems quite doubtful, has it been fully confirmed. Suppose if it has worked for the Pixies who could never get along as well it might work for the Pumpkins too - would be great to see them reform if they did some decent music again...
But if they reformed and were sh!t, then they might run the risk of being remembered for that.

Pigman II

Don't know if the reform is a good idea but I concur with people here that say that Adore is their best album. Whilst I loved Gish, SD and MCIS .... Adore is the only one that I can (10ish years on) still stick on and listen to today. The others are too much 'of their time' and don't have that level of maturity, timelessness (or dare I say it 'honesty') needed to remain eternally classic imho.

Spicy Lauren

OK, OK, I'll give Adore an other listen then...

smashing

This is great news

ricky121

I really liked machina their last album, something about it really appealled to me. no matter how many times i listen to it i never get bored, but everyone has different tastes although his new album is a ball of sh*te! i'm kinda suprised that their reforming,

Nidge

I too am amazed that people like Adore! A friend put it on my mp3 player and i have been listening to it for months, i love it, it really shows range. I really have to buy there other albums, i think i will buy them from a site to get them a few euro cheaper, for god sake mellon collie is still €30! I dunno i think Siamese Dream is pretty much their best album, that rocks and has reflective songs at the same time, i think the lyrics are very clever and ironic too, i don't think it's stuck in it's time, certainly not the same feeling one gets when listening to early metallica.

Smurfpiss

I got mellon collie for like 5 pound one time in belfast. it was a reaaaalllly good sale. Yeah Id say Siamese Dream is their strongest, but Mellon Collie is an epic. Adore, I can see it has its charms but I find it lacks the passion of the other albums. No jimmy but a very hollow drum machine, and overall its kind of timid.. I can see why people like it, but im definately from the pre-adore group. If they play im most certainly going!

Nidge

Smurfpiss wrote:

I got mellon collie for like 5 pound one time in belfast. it was a reaaaalllly good sale. Yeah Id say Siamese Dream is their strongest, but Mellon Collie is an epic. Adore, I can see it has its charms but I find it lacks the passion of the other albums. No jimmy but a very hollow drum machine, and overall its kind of timid.. I can see why people like it, but im definately from the pre-adore group. If they play im most certainly going!

But that was the whole point of Adore, they didn't want to make another rock album (i'm aware of Machina). I like it cos you can identify with their music, it's different and it's good easy listening when you aren't quite up for music to headbang to.

BleakestH

In fairness, there's only a handful of Pumpkins songs that you could ever actually 'headbang' to.

Smurfpiss

yeah. songs like mellon collie, thirty three and farewell and goodnight, they were easy listening in a sense but they still made your hair tingle. I guess I dont really get adore.. i know others love it, thats cool, just not me!

Pet

for god sake mellon collie is still €30!

Mellon Collie is on sale on cdwow at the moment, I think it's about €12.99. You should get it, it's great.

cormie

€10.99:) go for it, cdwow.ie!

dead air

Just heard that The Jimmy Chamberlin Complex are playing at the Village, Dublin (Fri 26 August).

> http://www.ticketmaster.ie/artist/944463/

cormie

I long for the day I hear the pumpkins will be playing again. G'wan!!!

Ilac

I really got into Machina. Admittedly it took me a few years, I didn't appreciate it at first. But there are some great songs on it.
Does anyone else like it?

BleakestH

Has anyone else heard the new Jimmy Chamberlin Complex album, 'Life Begins Again'? It's surprisingly awesome, great mixture of hard rocking tunes and jazz fusion, really good stuff and Corgan even sings on the track 'Lokicat'. Much better than BC's recent solo effort by far. I'll definitely be going to see them methinks!

Pacifico

BleakestH wrote:

Has anyone else heard the new Jimmy Chamberlin Complex album, 'Life Begins Again'? It's surprisingly awesome, great mixture of hard rocking tunes and jazz fusion, really good stuff and Corgan even sings on the track 'Lokicat'. Much better than BC's recent solo effort by far. I'll definitely be going to see them methinks!

Yeah 'Lokicat' is good alright. Corgan sounds great on it!

The rest of the album is pritty poor though. It just sounds like a demo tape for Chamberlin with some music thrown in between imo

BleakestH

Pacifico wrote:

It just sounds like a demo tape for Chamberlin with some music thrown in between imo

Erm, are you sure you've been listening to the same thing here? What i'm hearing are some immaculately played jazz fusion songs with nicely placed guest vocalists ('lokicat' 'newerwaves') along with some sterling instrumentals like 'street crawler' and 'Cranes of Prey'.

It's good **** folks, check it out.

Pacifico

Yeah i'm not really into Jazz so......thats why it doesn't appeal to me

Dont get me wrong some of the drumming is amazing, as you'd expect from the man

BleakestH

Yeah it really has some of his best drumming to date on it.

cormie

Ilac wrote:

I really got into Machina. Admittedly it took me a few years, I didn't appreciate it at first. But there are some great songs on it.
Does anyone else like it?

Yup! I have a killer version of Glass And the Ghost Children Part 2. WoWsERs!!!!

lizzyrock

I'm surprised that nobody has abused Secrecy Ie for his point that the Pumpkins may come back **** and be remembered for that? That so stupid. When you look at Billys career in the pumpkins and out, it has always been an obvious progression. To set boundaries and then push them in a direction totally unexpected. The true fans could go with Billy and enjoy them for they are all masterpieces. An amazing songwriter who lives and breathes music. There's very few Pumpkins songs that you would want to skip. Many bands have one or two good songs per album. Not being used to Adore is to be expected. Give it a chance and it can bring tears to your eyes to feel the pain and depth in it. It's beautiful. I thought that Zwan were a good band. Ultimately, they were a re-incarnation of sorts of the Pumpkins. Billy said himself when asked why Jimmy didn't drum on his new album, that when he and Jimmy play together it's the Pumpkins. I love MSOTS for what it is. Melodic, expressive, harmonic, positive and it's a pity that the band weren't once they began to tour. But i'm happy it didn't work because it lead to Billys next masterpiece. Shame on ppl who call themselves fans who think Billys new album is *£$%e. I'll admit when i first heard it, it was different, give it a few listens and song by song i was moved. Once again Billy has done something different and pushed the boundaries once more with a gothis/electronic and ambitious piece of work which he clearly won't get his just deserves for as people will not follow him because they are too caught up in the Pumpkins. I'm a Billy Corgan fan aswell as a Pumpkins fan. I was living for the Zwan album, was living for the BC solo, have nearly every Pumpkins cd (ABOUT 16 cds-every 1 i could find anyway) and the Pumpkins getting back together was the best news i've heard all year. I'm more glad for Billy. People who think he's in it for the money do not know **** about this artist who wears his heart on his sleeve (bled on stages all over the world as he himself says) and once again wants to revisit those thoughts and emotions for the love of the Pumpkins.

He's a musical genius. He will always be remembered for that. Legend.

PiE

lizzyrock wrote:

I'm a Billy Corgan fan aswell as a Pumpkins fan

Hey good for you. I'm a music fan and liking music just because Billy wrote it is silly. He has created some amazing albums and there was a time I'd have licked his boots clean, but take the blinkers off and you'll realise that even he has made some bad musical decisions and he practically admitted that he thought MSOTS ended up being a bad album.

ronano

Ilac wrote:

I really got into Machina. Admittedly it took me a few years, I didn't appreciate it at first. But there are some great songs on it.
Does anyone else like it?

I enjoy machina but i think at the end of the door even if you forget about the production there are still alot of sub par songs on it

Mina Loy

PiE wrote:

Hey good for you. I'm a music fan and liking music just because Billy wrote it is silly. He has created some amazing albums and there was a time I'd have licked his boots clean, but take the blinkers off and you'll realise that even he has made some bad musical decisions and he practically admitted that he thought MSOTS ended up being a bad album.

Lol I'm a huge sp/billy fan and have been since I was about 12, personally I love mellon collie, liked zwan and really love his solo stuff..but it's all a matter of personal opinion... example i *think* u2/greenday/foo fighters/nirvana/metallica are crap and it'd be torture if someone forced me to listen to them..but I don't smack on others for liking them, to each their own.. doesn't make me think any less of them..different strokes for different folks ain't it?

so basically..if people want to gyrate to abba and hot chocolate or mosh to mary..lyn(can't spell) manson, bop to the smiths or get all uptight and angry with ratm who the hell cares as long as they like it for the music and not cuz it's 'hip and groovy' to like a certain band or someone at a certain time..


*wohoos to willy mason*

:cool: everybody chillaxxxxxxxxxxxx

KnifeWRENCH

the pumpkins are definetly my fav group...and its killing me coz my 2nd fav.,garbage,played support for them during mellon collie.....still,they might support them again,u never know.....
my fav. album by them is mellon collie,followed by adore,pisces iscariot,siamese dream,gish and machina.......for anyone that doesnt have it i would definetly recommend looking for "The Aeroplane Flies High" boxset on ebay...some of their bestest songs are on it e.g God,Cherry,Jupiters Lament,Marquis In Spades,Set The Ray To Jerry,Transformer....see if someone in america has it...i got mine for just over E40.....

Royale with Cheese

http://www.nme.com/news/smashing-pumpkins/21996

Well there you go, looks like it's actually going to happen... albeit without James Iha (I'm assuming that since there's no mention of him in that article) and with Mellisa Auf Der Mauer instead of D'arcy (not too upset about that).

magpie

Depressed teenagers everywhere will be delighted. Or more depressed. Or something. Any bets on the name of the new album? I'm going for

"Tweezle Bumpkin's Kurious Maqchien 4 teh Drownignest Monkee Heaven SongCycle Part 8" - it'll be a quadruple theme album based on a series of illustrations drawn by BC whilst on the toilet between 1995 and 2006.

po0k

I'm just hoping for some good tunes.

Bodhidharma

If they're getting back to make the sort of records they're capable of, its great news.


On the other hand if they want to destroy any lingering credability by going on a money grabbing arena tour (Pixies, I'm lookin at you), then i'd rather my memory remain untarnished.

cormie

It's all about the music folks. Looking forward to hearing more on this:)

Beastieboy

Bodhidharma wrote:

On the other hand if they want to destroy any lingering credability by going on a money grabbing arena tour (Pixies, I'm lookin at you), then i'd rather my memory remain untarnished.

Billy Corgan and the rest the pumpkins probably have enough money not to have to worry about 'grabbing' any more. I wouldn't be suprised if a new album did come out some time in future though it doesn't really matter if it's released under the Smashing Pumpkins or Billy Corgan it's the same thing. Should be nice to see the Pumpkins songs live though

Mina Loy

Even NME have fallen for a doctored coachella poster which some guy off netphoria did a while back. The Coachella thing was completely made up. If they do play and only in the states it'll suck. what student has the money for that ? sigh