Construction Studies (H)

Sully

Hey all,

Anyone got any predictions for Construction Studies then?

I read somewhere here, UValue, Planning, Stairs, WheelChair Accessible Door (Q1) and Heating Systems are a possibility this year. Any others?

mickomack

Drainage,Moisture Penetration,Condensation,Site considerations,Dry rot

mickomack

I've an analysis of the papers for the last 7 years but it won't let me upload it cos its an excel doc.

Sully

Mail it to me please: sully@thenet2k.com -- Thanks

Johnerr

ok any other predictions? and when you guys study, how do you study? draw pictures? and can we make a list of important dimensions to add when doing drawings, i never lerned the dimensions so i'll ave to learn them if i wana do my pictures to scale, ..

mickomack

U must provide measurements to you drawings and they must be to scale.As for freehand sketches they should be well proportioned and ledgible.Often sketches are worth more marks than the writing

Binomate

Jaysus, I'm completely screwed if people are predicting stuff to come up. I'm planning on getting most of the whole course studied. I'm doing all of the drawings we were taught for question 1 which includes Stairs, Chimneys, Doors, Window frames, Lean to roof, Eaves pitched roof, Raised timber floor and the foundations. Then for the four other questions I'll be studying the U value question, heat, drainage, water systems, sound, timber frame construction and planning permission. Do you think I'll have covered enough? This exam is pretty much like the ordinary level english exam. Once you read over your stuff and learn the measurements (quotes for english) you can do well. There's not a lot of learning in the exam compared to most other subjects.

mickomack

Yeah u should be fine make sure u know planning permission and site considerations and definitions along with the other stuff and you'll be cruising

Binomate

http://ericglover.com/img/fried_rice_zoom.jpg
There are some good notes on here.

stevoxbx

^^^^^^^^^ :eek:
Well they arent the best of notes now in all honesty
I do like rice though

Johnerr

site considerations????????????????

mickomack

Yeah as in what is taken into account when choosing a sitw
Here are a few examples
Cost
Planning Permission
Services
Location
Surroundings
I think the q came up in 2000

Sully

Thanks for all that mickomack

Kwekubo

Mickomack - can you please please email me that list of predictions, and anything else you may have lying around as regards Construction? Our teachers have thoroughly screwed us for this exam - we have had two theory classes this year, and I do not exaggerate. No-one knows anything apart from the two guys who are repeating. Plus, I'll be stuck in the exam hall until 8:30 pm cause the bloody Exam Commission can't get it in their heads that someone somewhere might want to do both Latin and Construction studies. Please help!

gabriel_beecham@yahoo.co.uk

the cheese

Are there any other drawings than the ones Binomate listed? I heard there could be a drawin on wheelchair access for a door or something? Our teacher wasnt the best either

.B.R.

Could one of you send it on to me plz - Pulse20@hotmail.com
Nice1

stevoxbx

Oh god where can I find the wheelchair accesable door? my teacher never even told us that doors could come up in Q1.

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~abbeynet/Drawings/door.htm

thats the only drawing of a door i could get

Binomate

What did everyone get for their practical? Our teacher told us what grade we got.

stevoxbx

Mine didnt tell us. Would have been helpfull to know.

.B.R.

stevoxbx - if you go to http://www.examinations.ie and go to the marking schemes you can get solutions up to the papers. http://www.examinations.ie/archive/markingschemes/2003/LC029ALP1EV.PDF there the solutions to the 2003 paper and a door came up in question 1, it has the worked drawing of it!

stevoxbx

Thanks!!! The fact that it came up means that its hardly gona come up this year?

mickomack

stevoxbx wrote:

Thanks!!! The fact that it came up means that its hardly gona come up this year?

NOTE:the wheelchair accessible door has NOT come up before they gave it in the solutions as an example of the new regulations that were introduced in 2001. They asked for a standard door that year.

Binomate

If the wheelchair ramp comes up this year I'll be extremely p'd off. Our construction teacher was crap. He hasn't gone through half of the stuff that's on the course and the stuff that he did go through with was only the easiest stuff to teach.

mickomack

It better fookin come up in some shape or form.You think your teacher is bad we haven't done theory since the start of 5th year

stevoxbx

Where can I find the drawing for the wheelchair accesable door?

.B.R.

mickomack- you sayin that a wheelchair accessable door could come up?

mickomack

It's on that examinations.ie website if not try entering wheelchair accessible door into google

mickomack

.B.R. wrote:

mickomack- you sayin that a wheelchair accessable door could come up?

Thats what i've heard i mean they are only a certain no of wheel accessibility possibilties of q left maybe not as q1 but possible as q2

stevoxbx

Cant find it on the examinations website. Link would be helpfull!!

Edit: Found it on the 2003 paper in the amended building regulations.

mickomack

Binomate wat mark did u get for your proj?

.B.R.

Never seen anything to do with wheelchairs in question 1 so wasn't sure, nor did my teacher say anything bout one coming up... But i'll look over it anyway thanks

stevoxbx

How many variations of questions can they ask on the Planning Permission(eg. Outline the stages of planning permission) and Heating systems? Or can they only ask set questions?

Binomate

mickomack wrote:

Binomate wat mark did u get for your proj?

I got a C3 I think. Our teacher was yet again an asshole when it came to markings. I think he marked each of our pieces by comparing them to the best. I don't know how he did it but the reults were unbelievable. Anyone in the class would have expected a lot higher results for the pieces (like mine) to have been marked a little higher and for those who were marked realy well to be marked a lot lower! Hopefully the examiner who comes around to grade them a 2nd time will grade us up. I did a lot better in the day practical. By presuming the worst I'm presuming that I got at least the same gradr as my practical project, a C3. All I have to do tomaintain this is get a C3 in the exam tomorrow.

stevoxbx

Im looking for a B2-B1. Id say i got 40% outa d first 50%. But know nothing for tommorow and still havnt studied ive just prepared for Q1. I know uvalue questions but av to study the rest now.

Binomate

I'm the exact same in terms of studying. Usualy one of the drawins comes up in another question as well. I know the hot water systems diagrams. Our text book is crap as well and we all have barely any notes. We're so scrwed. I'm planning on waffling my way through it and leaving it early. Then I'll head down the pub and celebrate that it's over. Can't wait.

stevoxbx

Nice for you im back on friday for ag science.
Im gonna waffle too. Gona learn of the heating system diagrams and hope for the best. What book do you have?

Binomate

stevoxbx wrote:

Nice for you im back on friday for ag science.
Im gonna waffle too. Gona learn of the heating system diagrams and hope for the best. What book do you have?

It's called Architectural Technology Core by Michael Hannon. It's a great book but I think it's a college book and it has a lot of material which is completely irrelivant to Leaving Cert standards. Our Construction Studies teacher told us we had to get it half way through the year and it cost us about €50. We opened it once in class. At the end of the year we asked him why we hadn't used it at all and he said "Oh, it eh................. It wasn't as good as I thought it was". Basicaly he hadn't even seen it before he told us to go out and spend €50 on it! I don't even know how he got employed. He has sawn his thumb of twice on the table saw and he stitched his tumb back on himself! He has photos to prove it as well! He's a nutcase.

mickomack

stevoxbx wrote:

How many variations of questions can they ask on the Planning Permission(eg. Outline the stages of planning permission) and Heating systems? Or can they only ask set questions?

They can only ask you around the same as previous years
eg. Planning Permission documents,procedure(This normally comes up on the ordinary level paper but you never know),for and against a statement

As for central heating you must know diagrams of each system advantages,disadvantages,Safety considerations,sizes etc

mickomack

Binomate wrote:

It's called Architectural Technology Core by Michael Hannon. It's a great book but I think it's a college book and it has a lot of material which is completely irrelivant to Leaving Cert standards. Our Construction Studies teacher told us we had to get it half way through the year and it cost us about €50. We opened it once in class. At the end of the year we asked him why we hadn't used it at all and he said "Oh, it eh................. It wasn't as good as I thought it was". Basicaly he hadn't even seen it before he told us to go out and spend €50 on it! I don't even know how he got employed. He has sawn his thumb of twice on the table saw and he stitched his tumb back on himself! He has photos to prove it as well! He's a nutcase.

That book is ****e there is a load of regulations and diagrams that are wrong in it.Fortunately for me my dads a construction teacher so i just use his notes.There is a new book due in 2006-2007 by the Dublin Branch

stevoxbx

2006-2007 aint much gud for me now. Seen as ur dads a con.studies teacher wat tips has he given you??

Sully

Binomate wrote:

It's called Architectural Technology Core by Michael Hannon. It's a great book but I think it's a college book and it has a lot of material which is completely irrelivant to Leaving Cert standards. Our Construction Studies teacher told us we had to get it half way through the year and it cost us about €50. We opened it once in class. At the end of the year we asked him why we hadn't used it at all and he said "Oh, it eh................. It wasn't as good as I thought it was". Basicaly he hadn't even seen it before he told us to go out and spend €50 on it! I don't even know how he got employed. He has sawn his thumb of twice on the table saw and he stitched his tumb back on himself! He has photos to prove it as well! He's a nutcase.

Ya good point. I use the same book and I agree with you on that one.

We used it a little bit in 5th year and not at all in sixth year!

mickomack

It's more suited to the new syllabus than anything

Here's what me reckons is gonna come up
U Value
Central Heating
Planning Permission
Wheelchair Accessibilty
Sound/Thermal Insulation
Drainage
Dry Rot/Wet rot
Roofs

stevoxbx

what you predict for Q1?

Sully

Hope your right Micko :P And I hope Q.1 is actually Wheelchair!

Anywho. U get my email back ?

steffi-nof

Hey mickomack!!!:D could u please send me on that analysis??? im so screwed!! spent d last yr bulidin a house dat im gonna jump on come sept!!!:mad: haha!!

Reali need some tips!!!....night b4 d exam and all!!!...:(

sixsecsteph@hotmail.com

Father Hernandez

steffi-nof wrote: »

Hey mickomack!!!:D could u please send me on that analysis??? im so screwed!! spent d last yr bulidin a house dat im gonna jump on come sept!!!:mad: haha!!

Reali need some tips!!!....night b4 d exam and all!!!...:(

sixsecsteph@hotmail.com

Steffi-nof, i just realised there after reading all those comments that these were posted 3 years ago !

steffi-nof

Hahaha me 2!!! whoops!!!....found some new 1s!!! type construction studies 08 n u'l find um!!!:D

Father Hernandez

steffi-nof wrote: »

Hahaha me 2!!! whoops!!!....found some new 1s!!! type construction studies 08 n u'l find um!!!:D

ha 10 minutes of 'precious' studying time gone. The 08 is key !!

steffi-nof

Ha yup!!...was a tough 1 to crack bu got der eventually!!!
besta luck!!!

Father Hernandez

you too !

steffi-nof

wait....any tips 4 Q1????:D