Why?

jezza

Why did the smokers start to smoke?
Peer pressure?
Because your so fcuking loaded?
Because your cool?


Sorry guys there was supposed to be a poll

wheres me jumpa

peer pressure.

Rabies

because if you get lung cancer you are cool

aidan_walsh

I don't know. Why did the smokers start to smoke?

StupidLikeAFox

Because lucifer said unto them, "inhale toxic fumes into thy lungs" and the smokers didst take that faithful first drag, and were seduced by the disgusting aroma and foul breath of their brethren, and some wore leather jackets and were cool. And some wore cool hats, and cast their gave downwards whilst shrouded in a veil of smoke, and they were cool. This is the word of the Col. *nods wisely*

aphex™

Because tobacco companies spent millions on advertising/product placement to make it look like the cool thing to do.

Ro: maaan!

It's something I've always wondered about. There doesn't seem to be any reason, yet people continue to start doing it...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Because I was curious. I liked it. I don't smoke cigarettes.

PeadarofAodh

Because stupid threads like these drive them to...

When do smokers get a break!? :rolleyes:

Creamy Goodness

I doubt it's because smokers are loaded, as most likely when current smokers started smoking they were a lot cheaper than today.

as for me i wouldn't touch the cancer sticks of death.

Ro: maaan!

Mordeth wrote:

Because I was curious. I liked it. I don't smoke cigarettes.

In my infinite wisdom I never thought of that. But do people actually like it the first time?

Chalk

id say people smoke because at some point they made a decision to try it,
enjoyed it,
and continued to do it.

my question would be why do some non-smokers think that people who smoke are idiots who cant make decisions for themselves.
that somehow not smoking makes you a better person in absolutely everything you do.
everyone makes decisions that others see as right or wrong.

non-smoker for 4 years.

jezza

PeadarofAodh wrote:

Because stupid threads like these drive them to...

When do smokers get a break!? :rolleyes:

when they cop on tbh, and stop making others breathe their smoke!

Chalk

how was your first beer?
or your first whiskey?

most people dont enjoy the taste of beer t first,
yet continue to drink it.

aphex™

Nobody likes it the first time ffs. They just cough.

Naos

God damn you Chalk.
Took 14 posts, I was going to say that even though I dont smoke.
Damn you..

Chalk

jezza wrote:

when they cop on tbh, and stop making others breathe their smoke!

dont try that argument.
passive smoking does sfa.

jezza

Chalk wrote:

id say people smoke because at some point they made a decision to try it,
enjoyed it,
and continued to do it.

my question would be why do some non-smokers think that people who smoke are idiots who cant make decisions for themselves.
that somehow not smoking makes you a better person in absolutely everything you do.
everyone makes decisions that others see as right or wrong.

non-smoker for 4 years.

Because its selfish. If parents do it in the home it harms the kids, its selfish. and ifs even worse for someone to pressure someone else into smoking cancer sticks

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

still, it does something.. and it's smelly and disgusting.

PeadarofAodh

"when they cop on tbh, and stop making others breathe their smoke!"

its called the smoking ban. If you go somewhere where the smoking ban isn't in effect, go somewhere else.

Oh and if you're going to go into a self-righteous rant, you might want to relieve yourself in the corrupted thread a few spaces down.
Peadar

jezza

Chalk wrote:

how was your first beer?
or your first whiskey?

most people dont enjoy the taste of beer t first,
yet continue to drink it.

i loved cider and vodka 1st time i tried them!

Ro: maaan!

Chalk wrote:

my question would be why do some non-smokers think that people who smoke are idiots who cant make decisions for themselves.
that somehow not smoking makes you a better person in absolutely everything you do.
everyone makes decisions that others see as right or wrong.

Of course they can make decisions for themselves. It's just a very stupid decision, from an outsiders point of view. I don't think of myself as better than smokers in every way, just in the "I won't pay money to kill myself slowly" way.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

jezza wrote:

i loved cider and vodka 1st time i tried them!

stupid alcoholic.

Chalk

jezza wrote:

i loved cider and vodka 1st time i tried them!

congrats.
what about beer?

every kid drinks vodka as its almost flavorless and cider tbh tastes like apple juice

StupidLikeAFox

Big deal! I smoke, bite me!

Chalk

Ro: maaan! wrote:

Of course they can make decisions for themselves. It's just a very stupid decision, from an outsiders point of view. I don't think of myself as better than smokers in every way, just in the "I won't pay money to kill myself slowly" way.

and that, in all honesty is your choice.
i have no problem with it and dont go round asking why people dont smoke.
i dont even mind asking people why i started smoking.

its the self righteous attitude of anti-smokers that gets my goat

jezza

when they cop on tbh, and stop making others breathe their smoke!"

in the home? neither of my parents smoke and when someone comes in and smokes it reeks and isnt fair on others, smoking should just be banned altogether

its called the smoking ban. If you go somewhere where the smoking ban isn't in effect, go somewhere else.
And how much moaning did the smokers do because they had to smoke in fresh air?
is it that lethal?? :rolleyes:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

it's a bit of a shock to thee system tbh after all that lovely, lovely smoke.

jezza

Chalk wrote:

congrats.
what about beer?

every kid drinks vodka as its almost flavorless and cider tbh tastes like apple juice

i vomited after 1st can of guinness, wouldnt let the bastid beat me tho so drank another one, took me ages but i kept it down!!

StupidLikeAFox

Well the others shouldnt be allowed smoke in your home. Simple as. And who are these "smokers" you talk of? Iirc smokers were pretty much divided. I for one like the smoking ban, as i dont like sitting in a smoky pub.

Now as far as i see, theres actually nothing you can do. Your whinging. Smoke causes cancer etc etc, but its a fact of life so deal with it.

Ro: maaan!

Chalk wrote:

and that, in all honesty is your choice.
i have no problem with it and dont go round asking why people dont smoke.
i dont even mind asking people why i started smoking.

its the self righteous attitude of anti-smokers that gets my goat

I don't really care if people smoke. It has very little impact on me. I'm just curious as to why they started.

monkeyfudge

jezza wrote:

i loved cider and vodka 1st time i tried them!

And I'm sure you've gotten drunk at some stage and talked rubbish all night to someone... a far worse fate than a slight chance helping someone develop emphysema from smoking some cigarettes in front of them.

Chalk

your house, your rules.
ive no problem with that.

how much would you moan if a smoker told you to go outside to get away from the smoke?

public house - public rules.
anyway, the smoking ban is here now, so theres no point arguing over it,
my local is pretty much empty these days,
with most people, staff included popping outside regularly for a smoke

Chalk

jezza wrote:

i vomited after 1st can of guinness, wouldnt let the bastid beat me tho so drank another one, took me ages but i kept it down!!

well that really defends your stance then :rolleyes:

PeadarofAodh

"smoking should just be banned altogether"

sometimes I cry at night...maybe this is why.

I welcomed the smoking ban as I didn't like the smell, not because of the unbased arguments that 2nd hand smoke increases the chance of getting cancer. It's comments like this that often get me defending smokers.

jezza

ColHol wrote:

Well the others shouldnt be allowed smoke in your home. Simple as. And who are these "smokers" you talk of? Iirc smokers were pretty much divided. I for one like the smoking ban, as i dont like sitting in a smoky pub.

Now as far as i see, theres actually nothing you can do. Your whinging. Smoke causes cancer etc etc, but its a fact of life so deal with it.

No i wont.
Smoke thats filtered from the ciggerette is put back in the air for others to breate in. Thats not fair. Smoking should be a choice. Passive smokers dont have that choice. You should think about that next time ye blow yer smoke into others faces.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

they should think about the fact that we're smoking before they come near us.

jezza

Chalk wrote:

well that really defends your stance then :rolleyes:

well the 1st post did say, dont like but continue to drink.. i dont drink beer.
i stick to vodka, cider, fat frogs wkd, ect....
what i like.

Chalk

ive never blown smoke into someones face that didnt want it
anyway
there is not enough of that smoke put back in the air to do any damge to you.
plenty of studies have shown this,
none have shown the opposite.

jezza

Mordeth wrote:

they should think about the fact that we're smoking before they come near us.

a bit(h i used to be best mates with knew how much i disliked smoke but she used to blow the smoke purposely right into my face. She stopped when she got thumped for it.

Chalk

jezza wrote:

well the 1st post did say, dont like but continue to drink.. i dont drink beer.
i stick to vodka, cider, fat frogs wkd, ect....
what i like.

its a simple answer to the why keep doing it if its not nice at the start qestion.
you agree that if somethings isnt nice at the start youll stick with it to see what the fun is all about.

Dizzyblabla

Chalk wrote:

dont try that argument.
passive smoking does sfa.

My grandfather was dead 12 years when the doctor accused my gradmother of smoking all her life, when she had never once smoked... it was his fault for smoking 60 a day in the house... don't say that passive smoking does sfa when it obviously does....

PeadarofAodh

"a bit(h i used to be best mates with knew how much i disliked smoke but she used to blow the smoke purposely right into my face. She stopped when she got thumped for it."

yeh! So stop smoking or me el' mucker Jezza's gonna sort ye she will!

sob...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

maybe he should have opened a few windows.

or waved a big leaf around.

jezza

monkeyfudge wrote:

And I'm sure you've gotten drunk at some stage and talked rubbish all night to someone... a far worse fate than a slight chance helping someone develop emphysema from smoking some cigarettes in front of them.

I do that sober when im drunk im generally quiet/too sick to talk.
Drinking is only hurting yourself, smoking is damaging others!
why else would they have banned it from public places???

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you know the nazi's had pieces of flare that they made the jews wear.

jezza

PeadarofAodh wrote:

"a bit(h i used to be best mates with knew how much i disliked smoke but she used to blow the smoke purposely right into my face. She stopped when she got thumped for it."

yeh! So stop smoking or me el' mucker Jezza's gonna sort ye she will!

sob...

no i wont not unless you stand in front of me blowing ****in smoke into my face. What should i have done> allowed her to continue doing it?

Chalk

it doenst.
anecdotal evidence is not scientific proof.

either way what study did the doctor do, besides draw, what he and many others see, as an obvious conclusion.

sorry if i sound harsh,
but there is NO scientific study that links seconnd hand smoke to cancer,
and i WILL argue that point.

jezza

Chalk wrote:

it doenst.
anecdotal evidence is not scientific proof.

either way what study did the doctor do, besides draw, what he and many others see, as an obvious conclusion.

sorry if i sound harsh,
but there is NO scientific study that links seconnd hand smoke to cancer,
and i WILL argue that point.

So why do they put it as a warning on the packs eh??
Filling space?
Second hand smoke it just as dangerous.

PeadarofAodh

"What should i have done> allowed her to continue doing it?"

Well if it was my best mate (Even if she was a "fookn bit(h") I'd probably ask her politely to stop breathing it into my face.

Sometimes I think about changing my signature...it's times like these that convince me to keep it the same. :eek:

Chalk

jezza wrote:

So why do they put it as a warning on the packs eh??
Filling space?
Second hand smoke it just as dangerous.

please,
read up on this before you strat arguing what it says on the box.

i will repeat it slowly.

there
is
no
scientific
link
between
passive
smoking
and
lung
cancer.

please read up on it, as im not in the mood to go googlgin for the w.h.o reports that state it right now.
the information is all there.
have a look at it.