Final Fantasy on PS3?

halenger

Oh.... my....God....

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1683

Just look at the trailer for it. Want, want want. As with the rest of the PS3 trailers they are running and being rendered in realtime on a PS3.


:eek:

steviec

Unfortunately its only a tech demo, they said straight after that they're not planning on making a full game out of it. WHY NOT? I mean its a guaranteed money maker for them, a lot of the work has been done on the PS1 game, not saying that bringing it up to date isn't a big job but it's not as big as starting from scratch. And they must know it would top the charts if they did it.

More interesting are the few tidbits about Crisis Core for PSP, that's a prequel to FFVII and you play as Zack. If there's one area of the story I've always wanted to see fleshed out it's that. Hopefully they do a good job!

halenger

I'm sure things like Advent Children sales and the other game spin-off sales etc will have a big effect.

But yeah. In my excitement I did forget to mention that it is just a tech demo but talk about amazing. I mean... WOW.

Crucifix

That was pretty cool. I always liked the intro, right up to the point where you could see cloud jerkly pasted over the train, so it was nice to see it without that.

Infini

Holy ****! Want, want, want, want, WANT!!! :eek: I REALLY hope they do make that game I'd so buy it on it's release date!

Rhyme

Mmmmm, nice... id kill for it

airetam_storm

Might make a mess of the origional??

Töpher

Not fair not fair not fair I want it I want it I want it.

ghostchant

wow looks incredible, but i always loved the look of the characters from VII and IX - the cutesy, out-of-proportion look.
maybe it looked a bit TOO realistic?
I'm probably being an idiot though

airetam_storm

ghostchant wrote:

wow looks incredible, but i always loved the look of the characters from VII and IX - the cutesy, out-of-proportion look.
maybe it looked a bit TOO realistic?
I'm probably being an idiot though

As retro as you get...

grimloch

that video is quite impressive, id love if they redid the old game, as for messing it up i think it would be an achievement to make a balls of it, it would certainly take new levels of stupidity to ruin something that good

Infini

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Not all hope is lost.

The speculation now revolves around whether or not the "Technical Demo" of FFVII intimates that there will actually be a full remake of the game for the PS3, which is something that fans of Final Fantasy have been begging for for years. Final Fantasy VII is still arguably the most well-regarded of the Final Fantasy games, and speculation has been mounting about whether or not Square might attempt to cash in on that popularity by issuing a remake. Considering that this is a company that's announced at least three other games, as well as an all-CGI movie, based on the characters and storyline of FFVII, we can't rule anything out at the moment. Square didn't state anything for certain at the press conference, but we will of course have more details as they come along.

grimloch

i bloody hope they do, not like it wouldnt make them a few bob

Remaking the thing with PS3's capabilities would be amazing and would please the fans very much instead of the tripe like X-2 were faced with

Stalfos

Well they did it with Star Wars so why not Final Fantasy, the star wars of the games.

I can just see it now:
Digitally Remastered Final Fantasy VII and a second disc with the making of... and deleted scenes from the games.

melekalikimaka

I dunno...apart from graphics what more could they add aprt from changing the story...which would be a shame...a spin off would be better

Infini

I definately want them to do a remake but to stick exacty to the original main story. Wouldn't mind a few extra mini-games on the side of course but definately no changes in the main story.

Rhyme

Stalfos wrote:

I can just see it now:
Digitally Remastered Final Fantasy VII and a second disc with the making of... and deleted scenes from the games.

Yeh, and the secret behind all the typo's, the deal with Aerith and a blooper reel

steviec

Well apart from new graphics they could play around with certain things like the Gold Saucer, chocobos and mini games. I loved the battle system but there could be room for subtle changes there too. The story most definitely shouldn't be editted in any major way, but there's a heck of a lot of mistranslations in the English version of the game that could be fixed, and they could add the odd side story and new dialogues here and there without effecting anything to central to the main story.

steviec

Niall - Dahlia wrote:

the original soundtrack re-recorded with a full orchestra and choir...

Oh yes most important!

There's not many games that the soundtrack is an integral part of the game but this is one of them. It's perfect.

The Free Man

Niall - Dahlia wrote:

the original soundtrack re-recorded with a full orchestra and choir...

*drool*

or maybe the black mages, for the final fantasy metal enthusiast

i would seroiusly like to see this game up and in production

Rhyme

Also the blue text box's would most certainly have to be retained. If voices were to be introduced, even if they were top notch, would take a lot of the games spirit away.

And the full choir would certainly make a difference, the midi's for the game were great but there's always room for improvement in the audio field.

Crucifix

Rhyme wrote:

And the full choir would certainly make a difference, the midi's for the game were great but there's always room for improvement in the audio field.

Blimey, I can just imagine the pants-crapping-ness of facing a nextgen graphic Sephiroth to the Reunion tracks version of One Winged Angel.

Infini

They already have redone One Winged Angel for Advent children. They'd probably use that in the remake too.

OY

I hope that you guys are right. I am playing it right now for the millionth time. If a remake was made that would be the coolest thing ever to happen. Can you imagine all of the scenes reproduced in next gen graphics.
OMG OMG OMG!
And as you guys have said, the sounds could be redone and that too would be sweet.
Please Square, pleeeeeeease!

BleakestH

I'd probably buy a PS3 just to play a remake of FFVII.

I saw somewhere mentioned that 3 spin-offs had been announced by Square. What other one/s are there apart from the Vincent led shooter and Advent children?

Citizen_Erased

Thats looks amazing and everything.
But I am afraid to say there are to reasons I wouldnt buy it.
The first is I will not , I repeat , will not buy a ps 3.
Secondly , FFV11 was perfect , and that means that it will be incredibly difficult to match in a remake. It would take just the slightist change that wasnt needed
to ruin almost the entire game. Also , just by looking at the screenshots and films tat have been released the game appears to have lost alot of its atmosphere through the new 3d backdrops etc. It is one of those things that is hard to put into words but , whatever was there just isnt.

Rhyme

Theres the one following the story of Zack called Crisis Core, the mobile phone game Before Crisis, Vincents game Dirge of Cerebus and the movie... quite the pimping.

acri

Oh man I need to change my pants....

steviec wrote:

, a lot of the work has been done on the PS1 game

Ah ah ah, ALL of the work has been done on PS1. I dont want extra dialogue, new characters, voices, new scenes, any new plot twists, NOTHIN'! It just won't be the same. Well, a few extra cutscenes with The Turks wouldn't be so bad. Or Shinra. Or more on the history of Shinra and Sephiroth. And mabye a bit more detail on Zack. That bit confused the hell outta me. But apart from that, NOTHIN'!

Citizen_Erased

acri wrote:

Ah ah ah, ALL of the work has been done on PS1. I dont want extra dialogue, new characters, voices, new scenes, any new plot twists, NOTHIN'! It just won't be the same.

But unfortunately that isnt going to happen . It is all going to be "hollywoodised".

acri

Citizen_Erased wrote:

But unfortunately that isnt going to happen . It is all going to be "hollywoodised".

I'm not so sure it will. I think Square realise what a gem FFVII is and will do nothing to taint it. That's what I keep telling myself anyway....

Citizen_Erased

Light a candle every hour and keep chanting that and you might get what you please.

But it definately will not be as good as the origional , I think its safe to say. (thats my opinion)

Retr0gamer

The thing I would really want if square did remake this game is a decent translation. Took two play throughs until I understood everything fully and even then the ending was a bit abstract (although they better not change the ending).

Citizen_Erased

Small things like more house to buy would be nice - I loved that house you could buy in the costa - I lived out of it most of the time.

Also I think , changing weapons and characters in battle would be welcomed but it think that goes without saying.

grimloch

i think citizen_erased is right, do you really trust them to remake the game without fecking about with it?

a few changes might be nice ie. ones that dont affect the story or anything else in a major way, like changing weapons in battle and a proper translation those would be perfectly acceptable, maybe a few little cosmetic changes here and there

we better hope that IF they reamke it it doesnt descend to the level of utter tripe that was X-2 although it would take new levels of incompetence to mess it up

Citizen_Erased

If they are going to make it they should take a leaf out of counter strikes book -
cs : source is just perfect , they didnt change any weapons , levels , people etc
they only replicated the origional on an updated platform. That whats needed

In my opinion though they will make it , because to show their fans a preview like the ones given then forget about it would just be sick , really.

grimloch

dont want to turn this into an anti source discussion but source was greatly change from 1.6, head over to the counter strike forum for example

alot of things were changed, weapon recoil, model lag, maps foustered with, generally not much from the positive point of view, the game should be still in the beta stage....

although i play it the gameplay in 1.6 was alot better

id say a source approach would be EXACTLY what you were speaking against earlier on, messing with what was right

Citizen_Erased

Yes , I know things like that where changed in the game , but them things came with the new engine , y'know.

So I suppose it could also be an arguement as to how remakes can present problems. But then again it all comes down to a matter of preferneces in the end.

grimloch

I think the old saying "if it aint broke dont fix it" applies to this possible FFVII remake

I know it would be an achievement to ruin it but they dont have to try very hard to take away from the experience, if its made i dont really trust them to keep it the was it was making very little if any changes

I dont think theres any people here that want a changed game, some changes are acceptable as outlined earlier but i think its the general consensus that a remake should keep as strictly as possible to the original and not take a counter strike source approach where more than just cosmetic things were changed

remember the trailer? cloud was blinged up a bit, maybe a little camper than before but that doesnt affect the game in a direct fashion

Creamy Goodness

i think with source the word "remake" is played on.

i hope they don't "remake" ff7 like valve did with cs.

remaking doesn't involve changing maps, recoil, models etc.

Citizen_Erased

But it can affect how you feel towards them and there for alter your experience of the story. No one apparently could fell much for Tidus because he looked like a girley-girl

Retr0gamer

However a game like FFVII wouldn't be affected as much as a fiercely competitve multiplayer game by a few little changes.

i'd be worried about a remake. If you want an example of the incompetency in Square at the moment then play Front Mission 4. They murdered and raped that series with that game.

Citizen_Erased

Cremo wrote:

i think with source the word "remake" is played on.

i hope they don't "remake" ff7 like valve did with cs.

remaking doesn't involve changing maps, recoil, models etc.

Valve had very little say in that , I believe , but that them changes had to happen because thats the way the HL2 engine is.

grimloch

Cremo wrote:

i think with source the word "remake" is played on.

i hope they don't "remake" ff7 like valve did with cs.

remaking doesn't involve changing maps, recoil, models etc.

I mentioned that earlier, they probably thought it was a good idea when they were doing it and i feel that square could fall into a similar trap

plus changing maps had nothing to do with the game engine and that was directly valve

Citizen_Erased

All the main maps appear to have only got visual makovers , is it not?
I dont know , but anyway thats not for here.

In relation to Final Fantasy , A remake would off course mean that areas would be changed - obviously stuff would be lost in translation between 2d background and a new 3d system

HomesickAlien

Citizen_Erased wrote:

A remake would off course mean that areas would be changed

tell me you meant to do that...

grimloch

Citizen_Erased wrote:

All the main maps appear to have only got visual makovers , is it not?
I dont know , but anyway thats not for here.

In relation to Final Fantasy , A remake would off course mean that areas would be changed - obviously stuff would be lost in translation between 2d background and a new 3d system

New routes have been added and doors swirched and boxes and a plethra of other things but like you said its not the place to discuss it.

Changing from 2D to 3D you say? I cant think of too many ways that could change things, its only really cosmetic changes and a most of the areas would stay the same surely? off the top of my head i cant think of many places that would change should it become 3 dimensional

Most of the game is in a fairly 3D setup

Citizen_Erased

Do you understand how FFVII works? On interiors not the world map ,The characters and things like chests etc.. are 3d. The background then is 2d and is just a picture. The alpha channel of this picture then makes bits of character appear or dissappear giving the illusion that it is behind whatever. That is why the camera angle cannot be moved etc.. Therefore you only see the area from one angle , so the remaing angles would have to be made from scratch.

grimloch

god i wasnt thinking at all when i wrote that,

backgrounds would of course have to be remade, however that still remains a visual upgrade which ultimately deosnt affect story and wont affect gameplay too much

Citizen_Erased

As I said (from the videos) before I believe alot of places atmosphere appears to have been lost in the third dimension. It is easier to convey these kinda of thing in a picture than n a fully living breathing world

grimloch

Thats not really something ive thought about too much, although the 3D atmosphere was good enough in FFX and FFIX although theres no direct comparison to make them to

Not to be picky but could you give a few examples?

Citizen_Erased

Well , you can imagine that town , excuse me for not knowing the name of , the one you first go to after midgar. In it you can only see the south facing buildings fronts. For 3d the houses facing the top of the screen would have to be made . And then unless you wante a load of brick walls for doors then interiors would also have to be made.