Skate Board park on the Cork Road

Cabaal

I'm curious is it even being used anymore, when I used to come to work via Superquinn the odd time I used to see people in their skating around in it,
But now I only come back from work via the Cork Road.

But in the past year I hasn't seen any kids using it, I'm not a skate boarder but I see it as a total waste of money that it was built and is hardly used especially considering all the damage skate boarders "appear" to do to the Millennium Plaza down by the quays.

AdMMM

afaik they dont have any one employed to work in the box at the moment and will only have him someitme in the Summer. Yes it was a big waste of money especially considering there are only about 3 skaters left in Waterford!

merlante

Cabaal wrote:

I'm curious is it even being used anymore, when I used to come to work via Superquinn the odd time I used to see people in their skating around in it,
But now I only come back from work via the Cork Road.

But in the past year I hasn't seen any kids using it, I'm not a skate boarder but I see it as a total waste of money that it was built and is hardly used especially considering all the damage skate boarders "appear" to do to the Millennium Plaza down by the quays.

There were people whining about skateboarders using the plaza on WLR today, in light of a recent skateboarding ban in Ennis for people skating in public places.

The skateboarders apparently claim that the park on the Cork road is too far out, etc. Myself, I reckon, they just prefer to skate in a natural urban environment, rather than a 'contrived' environment. Still, they are ****ing the place up.

The clouds are gathering for the skateboarders though, one way or the other...

c - 13

I thought that park was privatly owned anyway. There was great intrest in it when it first opened, but it dwindled quickly. I thought one of the reasons it was abandoned by the skateboarders was because its opening times didnt suit - ie - closing too early etc.
The sooner they're banned from public places the better IMHO anyway, i hate wlking through the town and the skateboarders coming out of nowhere and nearly smacking into you (usually in J.R. square)

Cabaal

merlante wrote:

The skateboarders apparently claim that the park on the Cork road is too far out, etc. Myself, I reckon, they just prefer to skate in a natural urban environment, rather than a 'contrived' environment. Still, they are ****ing the place up.

The clouds are gathering for the skateboarders though, one way or the other...

Hmm so they get a custom built park for themself and then their too lazy to use it :rolleyes: If they really wanted it to stay open longer they'd be able to sort it nobother.

Why don't they get the bus out or better yet get a lift with some of their BMX buddies

I personally think any BMX'ing and skateboarding around the Plasa should be banned out right, it puts tourists etc off from walking around it as they don't feel safe. (yes their is a image attached to skateboarders)

angry_fox

If you go down to the plaza on a weekend evening you will see teens drinking, shouting and messing bout. Sometimes you might see them huddled in a corner and some smoke rising up from where their location. What are the kids going to do when the tall ships is in town?
The skatepark on the cork road is pretty crap looking and very small.

Sully

angry_fox wrote:

If you go down to the plaza on a weekend evening you will see teens drinking, shouting and messing bout. Sometimes you might see them huddled in a corner and some smoke rising up from where their location. What are the kids going to do when the tall ships is in town?
The skatepark on the cork road is pretty crap looking and very small.

The Plaza is closed of at the moment, a "builders fence" as I call it has been erected around it blocking access.

I honestly believe they destroy the place when they use it with there graffiti and ****.

Cabaal

Sully04 wrote:

The Plaza is closed of at the moment, a "builders fence" as I call it has been erected around it blocking access.

I honestly believe they destroy the place when they use it with there graffiti and ****.

The council properly want to be 110% sure it wouldn't be covered in graffiti for the tall ships, its a shame it must go to such extreme;s to protect public space

mike65

What they should do is re-surface the plaza making sure there are indents running the full width and length of it. Perfectly good enough to walk on but impossible to 'board across.

Mike.

Sully

Cabaal wrote:

The council properly want to be 110% sure it wouldn't be covered in graffiti for the tall ships, its a shame it must go to such extreme;s to protect public space

lol good theory but I think its something to do with that new platform they are building? Which remind me, what's that black pipe which runs along the fence all the way down by the bridge?? Hrm..

Mike65 wrote:

What they should do is re-surface the plaza making sure there are indents running the full width and length of it. Perfectly good enough to walk on but impossible to 'board across.

Mike.

Ok so that stops the Skaters, but what about those bikers who do more harm then good? The drugys and alcho's who come to "have fun" but destroy the place? For example, that stone monument towards the Tower Hotel - what stands out most on that is the graffiti -- someone signed the bloody thing with a black marker.

Hope the council clean that place down a bit for the Tall Ships.

mike65

Well the solution to vandals, drunks and druggies is simple - Kill 'em All! I mean use law enforcement....

Mike.

Sully

mike65 wrote:

Well the solution to vandals, drunks and druggies is simple - Kill 'em All! I mean use law enforcement....

Mike.

The last time I saw the cops going in, it was a brilliant site. They came, the people saw, the people ran as one officer tried his best to catch them and was followed by the cop car again with just one person in it. The verdict? LOL. Failure.

What a raid, espically seeing it from the bus to Tramore! :P

dlofnep

Ah jaysus, you're all a bunch of nazis. It's just a couple of kids with skateboards, they are doing no harm. Could be worse, they could be trying to start fights with everyone they see, rob houses and cars and all that nonsense.

Sully

dlofnep wrote:

Ah jaysus, you're all a bunch of nazis. It's just a couple of kids with skateboards, they are doing no harm. Could be worse, they could be trying to start fights with everyone they see, rob houses and cars and all that nonsense.

And do you have proof that those involved are NOT doing that kind of thing? Eh? Eh? :P

Cabaal

dlofnep wrote:

Ah jaysus, you're all a bunch of nazis. It's just a couple of kids with skateboards, they are doing no harm. Could be worse, they could be trying to start fights with everyone they see, rob houses and cars and all that nonsense.

But we all know how things go
BMX'ing, skateboarding, small crime, smoking, drink, soft drugs, hard drugs and then hard drugs and murders all to fund their habit of so called EXTREME sports.

BMX'ing & Skateboarding is a dangerous road to go down.
:cool:

angry_fox

Cabaal wrote:

But we all know how things go
BMX'ing, skateboarding, small crime, smoking, drink, soft drugs, hard drugs and then hard drugs and murders all to fund their habit of so called EXTREME sports.

BMX'ing & Skateboarding is a dangerous road to go down.
:cool:

I dunno about that. A lot of these kids are just going through a phase, most of them are in there teens anyway. Remember how hard it was been a teenager, tryin to fit in and so on....... Most of them will grow out of it. BMX'ing & Skateboarding can be good sports to get into but the problem here in Ireland is the lack of facilites and competitions.

OLDYELLAR

the skate park on the cork road looks pretty cruddy to be honest , its teeny.Every time i see those BMX folk , Im like ET phone home , just reminds me so much of that film

Marcopolo85

angry_fox wrote:

I dunno about that. A lot of these kids are just going through a phase, most of them are in there teens anyway. Remember how hard it was been a teenager, tryin to fit in and so on....... Most of them will grow out of it. BMX'ing & Skateboarding can be good sports to get into but the problem here in Ireland is the lack of facilites and competitions.

It's like everything in this country. We have loads of deterrents which are not enforced. A by-law should be introduced whereby a €10,000 (not UP to €10,000) fine will be enforced on the first ones breaking it at the Plaza. If not them, then their parents.

It's like those scum in Limerick who locked the chap in the car and gang-raped his girlfriend. That should have been a mandatory 25 years without parole. It's a deterrent you need, not necessarily the punishment. But for it to work you have to enforce the deterrent.

But there seems to be a collective lack of will to do this......and these people know it. Regardless of your political persuasion, your man McDowell seems to be exactly the type of head the ball that you need for that Justice job.

Bring in the ASBOs - and enforce them severely. :mad:

angry_fox

Marcopolo85 wrote:

It's like everything in this country. We have loads of deterrents which are not enforced. A by-law should be introduced whereby a €10,000 (not UP to €10,000) fine will be enforced on the first ones breaking it at the Plaza. If not them, then their parents.

That would be a little harsh but they would certainly learn their lesson. Teenagers in Waterford need something to do and to be honest there's nothing for them to do but hang around Red Square or down by the Plaza, its up to the council and there parents to get them involved in something....

Bring in the ASBOs - and enforce them severely. :mad:

Its a good idea, but it could cause some serious trouble for the gardai, imagine giving one out to a guy in the middle of john street, his friends starts arguing with the garda about it, tempers flare and then everyone will be spending the night in a cell. Common sense will be needed

Mossy Monk

going home today i notice they have taken over the mall

i did witness 3 of them almost killing themselves which was funny i thought

cmhdwwi

Hi. I am a teenage bmxer from waterford,just want to say that the skateboard park on the cork road was a complete waist of money and was not researched properly the ramps instead of havin the top layer made of wood they have it more of a lyno surface..YES LYNO for gods sake!!which is slippy and some might say dangerous..the ramps are also built wrong and the angles are wrong making them unsuitable!
As for skateboards and bmxers i think its sick the way members of the public go out of their way just to avoid them and so they wont have to pass them...WE ARE KIDS FOR GOD SAKE NOT THE MAFIA..most of us are manerly and curtious ,we are just looked apon as tugs because of the sports we enjoy.IF IT WAS TEENAGERS PLAYING FOOTBALL ON THE STREET WOULD YOU GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO AVOID THEM?NO I DIDNT THINK SO!!!!

OLDYELLAR

I defo dont avoid ye anyway , that place on the cork road looks cruddy .Plus its a bit too far out from town.

Bards

I would like to make a few points on teenagers using the Plaza etc.

1.) Taxpayers, meaning you and I have paid for this piece of leisure infrastructure and are entilted to use it for the purpuse it was built. We certaintly don't want BMXer's and Skateboarder's ruining it. Afterall it is NOT a skate park.

2.) Any damage caused by said Skateboarder's and/or BMXer's MUST be re-paid through either the kids themselves or the parents. I have seen parents drop of their teenagers in nice BMW's, Volvos and SAAB's. An example must be made sooner rather than later.

3.) What would they do if there were still the old sheds there!!!!

4.) Would skateboarders tear up their parents garden furniture in the same way that they do the Plaza?

That's my rant over with

Cabaal

I'm still waiting for the reply saying "But we don't damage anything" :rolleyes:

If you want a proper skatepark then band together, raise money, do something, atleast make it look like your interested in the sport

But theirs no point in bitching about something you got for free

cmhdwwi

As for the damage in the plaza its not caused by skateboarders or bmxers its caused by stupid drunk and mindless teenagers with NO hobby that are just bored so they decide to vandalise the place...but guess who gets the blame?yes thats right US..i remember a head line in the munster express "skateboarders vandalise plaza"...what aload of crap we dont do anything cept our hobby!

angry_fox

cmhdwwi wrote:

As for the damage in the plaza its not caused by skateboarders or bmxers its caused by stupid drunk and mindless teenagers with NO hobby that are just bored so they decide to vandalise the place...but guess who gets the blame?yes thats right US..i remember a head line in the munster express "skateboarders vandalise plaza"...what aload of crap we dont do anything cept our hobby!

What damage was done to the plaza?

Teens on roller blades and bmxs come around the back of where i work most evenings and just cause trouble. They take stuff, stick cardboard up in front of the intake for the air conditioning (caused a fire the other day). Caught them jumping into the skip the other day, asked why they were doing it "Cause its fun" in his fine privately educated accent.

In conclusion roller bladers and some bmxers are posh twats with nothing to do but annoy other people and cant be bothered getting a job cause mammy and daddy give them all the money they want.

Rollo Tamasi

OLDYELLAR wrote:

I defo dont avoid ye anyway , that place on the cork road looks cruddy .Plus its a bit too far out from town.

But what about that famous quote from that famous movie featuring that not anymore famous actor....what was his name, er, whatever...

"Build it and they will come"

The youth of today, Jesus. I know that if i was 15 or so i'd be delighted that "the man" that provided me with facilaties, even it was a whole half mile outside of town. Come on now Oldyellar, in all fairness, its not that much of a hike, if you have two working legs to do a bit of half-pippin and a bit of off the wall onto the roof-tops grinding then surely you can make your way out to the provided skate park. Honestly the youth of today!

When i was growing up we used to play in puddles and pretend we all had our own swimming pools, ahh yes those where the days.... :rolleyes:

....Kelvin Costigan, er no wait, i think i have it......Kevin Costner in Fields of Dreams, thats his name/movie..sh*te. Anyway back on topic...There seems to be a load of kids( i'll take a guess at the age range...12-ish to 16-ish) hanging about down by the County Hall Building, the one with the cannons in front of it on the Mall. There is some mess up there as a result, that really pisses me off. I hate when people litter and leave a mess behind themselves without even giving consideration to the persons who will eventually have to clean up after em. I know that littering is not just a youth specific problem, its a national issue, Ireland is terrible for litter, but its really bad up there, especially since that area would be recoignsed as a tourist-ish region.

Rant Over

AdMMM

Its strange that you say you don't vandalise the Plaza because people I know and trust say that the skaters are the ones doing the damage. I understand that it's not every single one of you but there are (like in all other classes) a few that are only out to cause trouble.

Also bear in mind that everytime you try to ollie up onto the seats or whatever you are damaging them. Everytime you wax up the seats you are essentially vandalising them because the definition of vandalising is: "wiilful destruction or defacement of its built environment"

cmhdwwi

Ok thats fair enough we do cause some damage with the benches etc. but the damage with the benches can be fixed with a length of 2x4.The main damage is the cutting of the canopy,the breaking of the lights and glass over by the monument and the writing and griffeetee.....all caused by none skaters,we just get the blame.As a matter of a fact if we see some one vandalising the plaza we will stop them because we know we will just get the blame!I think the reson we always get blamed is because most of these vandals carry a skateboard or have a bmx but they dont actually skate or bmx.If they did they would hang around with us because we are the only group of actual skaters or bmxers the rest just carry a deck ar own a bmx.This as u can imagine is very frustrating for us because we know the guards cant tell the difference between the two groups....they then blame us because we are actually skating where as the other group are just holding a deck and in turn look alot more innocent!

Rollo Tamasi

cmhdwwi wrote:

most of these vandals carry a skateboard or have a bmx but they dont actually skate or bmx.

erm, so it’s a conspiracy is it? These "rouge skaters" are assuming your identity as good wholesome skaters and then vandalising under your identity.

the_syco

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

The youth of today, Jesus. I know that if i was 15 or so i'd be delighted that "the man" that provided me with facilaties, even it was a whole half mile outside of town.

To what? Kill yourself? Ever try turning quickly on lyno? you'll slip.

=-=

Oh, and its ""Put on a rock concert, and they will come."

Cabaal

cmhdwwi wrote:

As for the damage in the plaza its not caused by skateboarders or bmxers its caused by stupid drunk and mindless teenagers with NO hobby that are just bored so they decide to vandalise the place...but guess who gets the blame?yes thats right US..i remember a head line in the munster express "skateboarders vandalise plaza"...what aload of crap we dont do anything cept our hobby!

Thats funny, many a time I've seen BMX'ers using the bench's in the plaza to jump up and down on doing tricks...you don't think this damages then benches?
But I guess he was only partaking in his hobby, sure no harm done eh?
:rolleyes:

cmhdwwi wrote:

I think the reson we always get blamed is because most of these vandals carry a skateboard or have a bmx but they dont actually skate or bmx.

Ah yes I've heard of these, their apparently employed by waterford corporation with the aim of making all the legit BMX'ers/Skaters look bad.
Its all a consipiracy man!

the_syco wrote:

Oh, and its ""Put on a rock concert, and they will come."

Actually the original was "If you build it, he will come."
From Field Of Dreams -IMDB, although waynes world 2 took the piss out of this line with regards to the concert

Rollo Tamasi

the_syco wrote:

Ever try turning quickly on lyno?

ohh hell yeah , all the time. I've never skated on lyno thou

OLDYELLAR

cmhdwwi wrote:

Ok thats fair enough we do cause some damage with the benches etc. but the damage with the benches can be fixed with a length of 2x4.

Yea an that costs money , Are you goina pay to replace the benches ypu know your damaging?
By the way i seriously doubt people go out and buy skateboards and bmx`s just so they can pretend to be the skaters who were too uncool to get into your ''group'' as you put it just so they can wreck the place , FFS Like.

Im not saying ye all do it but that sounds like a sh*t story if I ever heard one.

Thwe place on the Cork road looks cruddy but you seem to think just because its some 2 be 4 or whatever its ok to go down an make bits of it.

Mossy Monk

pesky kids and their pesky skateboards

Rollo Tamasi

Mossy Monk wrote:

pesky kids and their pesky skateboards

if I may add to your previous post..

"pesky kids and their pesky skateboards"...with there untidy smelly hair and untidy smelly clothes and smelly untidy attitude and general smellyesque appearance. Why is that all of these skateboarders/new-age-grungers are frightened of hot water and bubble bath?

Is it an epidemic?

(Mossy, that free porn link doesn't work :mad: )

OLDYELLAR

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

if I may add to your previous post..

"pesky kids and their pesky skateboards"...with there untidy smelly hair and untidy smelly clothes and smelly untidy attitude and general smellyesque appearance. Why is that all of these skateboarders/new-age-grungers are frightened of hot water and bubble bath?

Is it an epidemic?

lol thats more than skaters , I dont get why people cant just wash theirself!!Waters free , go use it like!

Mossy Monk

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

(Mossy, that free porn link doesn't work :mad: )

of course it doesnt

Rollo Tamasi

Mossy Monk wrote:

of course it doesnt

Er yeah like i totally know that anyway! There is no need to go on and on about it. I'm not a prevert like.





is it just a broken link? will you be updating your sig?

Rollo Tamasi

OLDYELLAR wrote:

lol thats more than skaters , I dont get why people cant just wash theirself!!Waters free , go use it like!

To quote Derek Zoolander(3 time male model of the year) - "water is the essense of moisture, ......the essense of beauty"

If only the world would listen we would live in a more fragrent atmosphere!

AdMMM

cmhdwwi wrote:

Ok thats fair enough we do cause some damage with the benches etc. but the damage with the benches can be fixed with a length of 2x4.The main damage is the cutting of the canopy,the breaking of the lights and glass over by the monument and the writing and griffeetee.....all caused by none skaters,we just get the blame.As a matter of a fact if we see some one vandalising the plaza we will stop them because we know we will just get the blame!I think the reson we always get blamed is because most of these vandals carry a skateboard or have a bmx but they dont actually skate or bmx.If they did they would hang around with us because we are the only group of actual skaters or bmxers the rest just carry a deck ar own a bmx.This as u can imagine is very frustrating for us because we know the guards cant tell the difference between the two groups....they then blame us because we are actually skating where as the other group are just holding a deck and in turn look alot more innocent!

I just remembered a Waterford Skaters Video that was doing the rounds a few months a go. While I didnt see it myself, I heard that there were a load of clips in it of skaters being stoned and drunk and randomly robbing people (well a water bottle off someone). I'd hardly call this "partaking in your hobby".

Cabaal

|.Murderer.| wrote:

I'd hardly call this "partaking in your hobby".

It is a hobby, being a muppet is a known hobby for many people :rolleyes:

Marcopolo85

Cabaal wrote:

It is a hobby, being a muppet is a known hobby for many people :rolleyes:

What's happening with skatboarders is just indicative of this Country at present. Laws for everything but none enforced. Fine one or two €10,000 and that will be an end to it. You must have a deterrent. And I'm not focusing solely on skateboarders. This also applies to litter louts, noise pollution, etc.

Enforce the laws properly and you will not have a problem. The Corpo don't care. They, of all, should lead by example, but skateboarders use Flaggy Lane for assembling and skateboarding and are not taken to task - on the doorsteps of the Council!

The other side of the argument is that if the Corporation had built a PROPER skate park and MADE the skaters use it, the problem could have been solved.
Lots of people have lots of hobbies, but legally are not allowed to pursue them on the public street - skateboarders should be no different.

Cabaal

Marcopolo85 wrote:

Lots of people have lots of hobbies, but legally are not allowed to pursue them on the public street - skateboarders should be no different.

Yeah I want to play hurling but its too far to go to a proper pitch and the people's park does not have a proper setup....so I'm going to play hurling in the middle of red square
Get ready to get out of my way

:rolleyes:

AdMMM

Cabaal wrote:

Yeah I want to play hurling but its too far to go to a proper pitch and the people's park does not have a proper setup....so I'm going to play hurling in the middle of red square
Get ready to get out of my way

:rolleyes:

Thats actually a very good example .

Marco, the Corporation can't actually make the skaters use the Skate Park, however they could try reverse phychology...

"SKATE BOARDING PROHIBITED IN SKATE PARK"

The place would be packed if that was the case!

Also did anyone else notice that the Plaza has been re-fenced off after The Tall Ships? I thought it would only be for preperation beforehand but now it looks like the Skaters/Stoners/Wasters have wrecked the place for everyone in the longterm.

Rollo Tamasi

|.Murderer.| wrote:

"SKATE BOARDING PROHIBITED IN SKATE PARK"

The place would be packed if that was the case!

hehe so true, its all about the rebellion init. Bring back woodstock man!

I have loads of hobbies but i do them all in the comfort of my girlfriends bed. You don't see me trying to do the backward splits or general bedroom areobyics in the middle of the Plaza, do you?

DO YOU?

Marcopolo85

|.Murderer.| wrote:

Marco, the Corporation can't actually make the skaters use the Skate Park, however they could try reverse phychology...

"SKATE BOARDING PROHIBITED IN SKATE PARK"

The place would be packed if that was the case!

I think that just about sums it up!! Well said. Another example is that of, let's say, Walsh Park when there's a big GAA match on. Cars are abandoned left, right, and centre. Parked ON the roundabout, footpaths, etc. Not a ticket issued. Yet if you or I park on a double-yellow in the City Centre................ :mad:

J-Me

angry_fox wrote:

I dunno about that. A lot of these kids are just going through a phase, most of them are in there teens anyway. Remember how hard it was been a teenager, tryin to fit in and so on....... Most of them will grow out of it. BMX'ing & Skateboarding can be good sports to get into but the problem here in Ireland is the lack of facilites and competitions.

You’re the only one here that knows what there talking about. Kids need something when there young to pass time. Those guys who hang around the skaters smoking drinking and doing drugs there exactly what skateboarders are trying not to be. People are always complaining about young people these days, there to fat, there drugy’s, there wasters.

Have you ever seen a fat person skateboarding? You need to be fit and healthy to skate and you can’t skate drunk or stoned. Try it, see how you get on, but I hope you have health insurance.
Do you think skateboarding is doing even a fraction of the damage Alcohol is doing to this country. How many people die each year because of drink?...Why isn’t that outlawed?

Mossy Monk

the problem is people skate boarding where they are not wanted. hell, people should ignore the smoking ban and start smoking in work places again

Cabaal

J-Me wrote:

Have you ever seen a fat person skateboarding? You need to be fit and healthy to skate and you can’t skate drunk or stoned. Try it, see how you get on, but I hope you have health insurance.
Do you think skateboarding is doing even a fraction of the damage Alcohol is doing to this country. How many people die each year because of drink?...Why isn’t that outlawed?

While I do agree, it still does not give them them the right to damage public property.

They were supplied with a area to skate and instead they decided to break the laws put in place by the Waterford Corp and skate on the plaza (dispite the signs in place), say what you want but skating, BMX'ing & grafitti are related activitys...after all its all part of the "culture", alot of damage was doen to the plaza and the skaters can say what they want but they shouldn't have been their in the first place.

I'm happy to see that since the camera's have gone up, everytime I've passed the plaza there's been no sign of any BMX'ers jumping up and down on the seats trying to break them, finally some good work done by the Corp.

peepsbates

yes u can skate stoned