dart vaders case :D

Mac daddy

have a look at it came across on peats

Would you buy this ugly case?

unklerosco

Tis been out for ages... each to there own i say

The Real B-man

To bulky wouldnt want to bring that to a lan.

Nukem

Saw one in town the other day would have that door taken off in a day. Would wreck my head and its kinda flimsy as well.

sionnach

they took a good chassis from an already decent case then tacked on a load of ridiculous plastic. Not my cup of tea

g5hn710m4xpdwy

Jebus on a tree! that should be banned!!! ( well its not that bad but... YEAH)

Lord Oz

I saw that for sale in Maplin for €250! :eek: It seemed flimbsy too!

DemonOfTheFall

Yeah, the funny thing is that they called it a vento. The POS has crap airflow. Its incredibly flimsy too. Someone i know might have broken the one they have in peats by accident...

Prosta

Read a review of that somewhere.
The front door mechanism is CRAP. Springs up and scratches the top in no time. Plus it weighs a tonne. Steel and plastic.

All it has going for it is a nice paint job but it aint worth anything like the money the're asking.

po0k

sionnach wrote:

they took a good chassis from an already decent case then tacked on a load of ridiculous plastic. Not my cup of tea

*cough* Thermaltake *cough*

The Rice-bois will love it though. Fewls.

Dundhoone

SyxPak wrote:

*cough* Thermaltake *cough*

The Rice-bois will love it though. Fewls.

Whaddya saying loike? ya dont like this eh??
http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCase/Damier/v6000a.htm

but its 'Modern life style' !!! so are you living in teh sixties or what???



Ah no really though , I like the thermaltake armor, except for its 'wings' at the front which are just a waste of plastic.

po0k

Thermaltake are a shower of pikey scumm.

Their products are tacky, shít-looking clones of other company's innovations and designs, usually plastered in garish logos and shiney pixie-dust with an inflated price-tag.

They are the computing equivalent of a 17 year-old from Headford in a clapped out '91 Honda Civic with 15" tri-spoke alloys, screwdriver rammed through the exhaust for "xXxtra Noiseboi Powah", sellotape and silage wrap for tinted windows and a No Fear sticker obscuring the majority of the rear window.

With obscenely large hot-pink furry dice tied to the coat-hanger aerial.

To paraphrase Slipknot,

Thermaltake == Shít

Dundhoone

lol

Rolling christmas trees, powered by honda............

Is it just taste or is the build quality rubbish on thermaltake cases??? I dont like any of the rest but I was considering the thermaltake armor

http://www.thermaltake.com/xaserCase/armor/va8000bws/va8000bws.htm

Or are you a brand snob???? Is thermaltake = burberry in your opinion!!!!

sionnach

what syx said, thermaltake are utter cack. I wouldn't mind them too much because i just don't buy from them but what annoys me is that most online retailers have a lot of thermaltake stuff stocked and then don't stock the higher quality brands because everyone is buying this OMFG THERMALTAKE AWESOME HYPAR Xk4 3000 MONSTARR CASE WITH 6 TRIPLE LED FANS and detachable LIGHT SABRE.

This is why i had to buy the components for my new pc off 5 different retailers and got f*cked for shipping costs.

in short thermaltake are the suck, nobody who really knows their stuff buys their products

Dundhoone

this hatred is from personal experience or because you are somebody who "really knows their stuff" ?

Im not defending thermaltake - i've never had any TT stuff nor have I ever considered buying any of it before the Armor case. Apart from the CMStacker its the only case I can find that has Btx upgradablity and while not being ricer-ish its a lot less boring than the stacker.

just wondering what were the rubbish products that browned you guys off???

sionnach

Dundhoone wrote:

this hatred is from personal experience or because you are somebody who "really knows their stuff" ?

the latter

Dundhoone wrote:

its a lot less boring than the stacker.

a "'91 Honda Civic with 15" tri-spoke alloys, screwdriver rammed through the exhaust for "xXxtra Noiseboi Powah", sellotape and silage wrap for tinted windows and a No Fear sticker obscuring the majority of the rear window"
is a lot less boring than a bmw.

BloodBath

I have to agree that most thermaltake products are terrible looking but the build quality is pretty damn good. I got the Thermaltake VM2000 lanfire and I have to say the build quality is excellent. Really light at only 4kg too yet it's not flimsy. It's one of the only decent looking cases in their range though. At least it was 18 months ago when I got it. Every review it got from every site was at least 80-90% so your not completely on the button about them being ****e.

sionnach

i'm sure their build quality is adequate for most users, but it's almost always worse than the procuct they copied. They see a good product, copy it, give it their "unique" look and cut corners along the way.

[edit]oh and they often outright lie about their products specifications[/edit]

Gone West

actually that darth vader case isnt bad. It kinda different, anyways.
*cough* nothing compared to my case though *cough*

StRiKeR

OMG, I dont like that case, but thats just me, everyone got different taste I guess, I'm happy with the Stacker, its not all that boring when you mod it nicely, plan looking but nice

sionnach wrote:

a "'91 Honda Civic with 15" tri-spoke alloys, screwdriver rammed through the exhaust for "xXxtra Noiseboi Powah", sellotape and silage wrap for tinted windows and a No Fear sticker obscuring the majority of the rear window"
is a lot less boring than a bmw.

lol, thats a good way of explaining it!

rsynnott

Ah, case snobbery. Good lord.

sionnach

yes, how dare we look down upon poor products.......

rsynnott

But COMPUTER CASES, of all things? (I'm a stranger in a strange land on this particular forum I'm afraid )

sionnach

computer cases are often overlooked in terms of their contribution to a computer's performance. A good case makes a big difference to those who want to get the best from their pc.

rsynnott

Sorry, performance? PERFORMANCE?! Have you been paying too much attention to this guy?

Dundhoone

OMG

how wrong is he!!!

everyone knows red ones go fasta!!!!!

po0k

Dundhoone wrote:

this hatred is from personal experience or because you are somebody who "really knows their stuff" ?

Both.
I've had to work with several different models of TT cases, a few heatsinks, some terrible (brand new) fans and 2 PSUs.

Thermaltake products are the MacDonalds of PC components, akin to stuffing the bottoms of your tracksuit into your socks, wearing your peak at 45* and bouncing around to Maniac2000 before lobbing one into your cousin.

I am elitest, and steadfastly so when it comes to stuff I'm passionate about.

Like Sionnach, I have to buy parts for my new rig from several different etailers because the parts I'm looking for are from niche manufacturers who make excellent parts in their respective categories. Unfortunately TT are filling the market with derivative dross pumped up by marketeering - which the un-educated lap up like mother's milk.

My machine will be a "sleeper". Subtle, smooth lines and looks with a block of power gently purring beneath the hood. I'm going to mod the shít out of my stacker, but you won't find a tri-LED fan anywhere near it.

po0k

rsynnott wrote:

But COMPUTER CASES, of all things? (I'm a stranger in a strange land on this particular forum I'm afraid )

Then why question the facts when presented?

Dundhoone

okay thats more like it. When its from a couple of bad experiences with product from a particular manufacturer then im happy to listen to your advice, learn from your experience and stay clear myself.

I completely agree about educatiing yourself about something your are going to spend a lot of money on - if only to get the best for what your spending.

Not entirely supportive of your pc elitism though, it seems to spill over into a strong dislike of people with different taste to your own..... but thats one for an entirely different thread. Anyway, do you reckon there are a lot of shell suit wearing boy racers building pcs these days, or are you just lording it over the "un-educated"?

looking forward to seeing your tasteful creation posted sometime soon, are you sure its a pc your building?

Prosta

I've yet to read one legitimate gripe about TT in this thread.
Give us some examples
Dundhoone go for that Armor. I think it looks bitchin.

sionnach

Prosta wrote:

I've yet to read one legitimate gripe about TT in this thread.
Give us some examples

The quality of their products is poor, the finish on the base of a lot of their heatsinks would make any pc enthusiast weep.

They outright lie about their products' capabilities. They're currently selling a fanless psu as 350W when its actual capacity is 300W.

Look at their new fanless watercooling solution, it's called the rocket or something, it's a blatant ripoff of zalman's excellent reserator and a much poorer product.

DemonOfTheFall

Heres a legitimate gripe about TT, their Xaser III lanfire is a piece of ****.

It was an atrociously horrible case to work with. It felt like a tacky plasticy piece of crap to use. The fireball EL logo on the front looked terrible to see in person. The right panel hooks bent to crap on me really easily. It had 4 medium noise fans which did nothing to cool it.

Their power supplies are trash, have you ever heard the noise off them ? They conform to specs which are years old, meaning that they are nowhere near as useful as their wattage rating implies. They test their PSUs at 20 degrees (incredibly unrealistic) while real manufacturers test at 50 degrees. For people who dont do physics/electrical stuff this means that they wont make anywhere near their rated power in real use.

The come up with retarded gimmicks like an air cooled Peltier CPU cooler which doesnt even cool as well as their normal rubbish air heatsinks but still sucks down 100w of electricity. They come up with watercooling kits like the Aquarius which have fried people's CPUs by sucking so much ass that they couldnt cool a non-overclocked processor.

They sell only by their stupid ricer marketing.

I think I've given enough reasons for noone to even consider buying their trash. Now buy the CMStacker instead of that Armour piece of crap and dont give thermaltake money for stealing other companies' products.

Dundhoone

hehehe

So whats the story with review sites? Do they get review samples and a brown envelope with a few quid in or what cause all the TT product reviews are fairly good. Is there a hateTT.com that I havent found yet?

I'm buying an akasa Eclipse 62. I gave some consideration to the TT armor, but (and I'll admit it was a purely asethetic decision) I like the look of the eclipse better.

sionnach

you won't regret your decision dundhoone, from what i've seen the eclipse is a quality piece of kit, would have bought it myself if it wasn't made out of aluminium.

and demonofthefall, you speak the truth >_<

DemonOfTheFall

All the review sites that I've seen that do reviews on TT products are the crap ones which obviously need to review TT products to have something to keep them going. Take www.3dgameman.com

That guy will say that *anything* is great. He's positive about every single thing he reviews. Especially so about thermaltake. Guess which company's advertisements the website is spammed with ?

SolarNexus

personally, I wouldnt mind a version in black, given that it had a _very_ sturdy chassis design, which I doubt.

I might pop down to peats one day to take a look at this garish beast.

DemonOfTheFall

design is anything but sturdy. my mate broke the door on the one in peats by accident one day and he was being really careful.

sionnach

lol 3dgameman makes tomshardware look unbiased

po0k

Dundhoone wrote:

okay thats more like it. When its from a couple of bad experiences with product from a particular manufacturer then im happy to listen to your advice, learn from your experience and stay clear myself.

I completely agree about educatiing yourself about something your are going to spend a lot of money on - if only to get the best for what your spending.

Aye.

Not entirely supportive of your pc elitism though, it seems to spill over into a strong dislike of people with different taste to your own..... but thats one for an entirely different thread. Anyway, do you reckon there are a lot of shell suit wearing boy racers building pcs these days, or are you just lording it over the "un-educated"?

I'm a moody fecker, quick to smite internet people, but there's no real malice in it. At the end of the day it's that person's money, not mine. I only hope to help them make a better decision - even if it means being a bit coarse.

looking forward to seeing your tasteful creation posted sometime soon, are you sure its a pc your building?

It'll be completed around August, as I've to wait for cashflow and will only be able to do some of the more DIY modding at the weekends, and I'll have very few of those free.

Also, you said:

i've never had any TT stuff nor have I ever considered buying any of it before the Armor case. Apart from the CMStacker its the only case I can find that has Btx upgradablity and while not being ricer-ish its a lot less boring than the stacker.

TT also have the Kandalf out.
This is the defining argument against Thermaltake.
It's a blatant rip-off of the Stacker.
The Stacker has nice smooth lines (I don't like the big 300mm grille on the side, but that won't last long on my case), it's very symmetrical, I like the minimalist aesthetics.

Why are you even considering BTX? It's not being adopted all that readily, the main thing that will push it will be Intel and OEMs (Dell, HP, Fujitsu).
I'm getting the stacker because I love the design and construction of it, highly configurable, nice simple and direct airflow from front to rear, plenty of space, and I can WTX the motherboard and flip the side panels.

Prosta wrote:

Dundhoone go for that Armor. I think it looks bitchin.

I rest my case.

What ever happened to modding being about buying a solid case and getting a bit of elbow grease in to mould it to your liking?
From what I've been seeing at lans lately, more and more people are just going out and buying the shiney pretty (but piss-poor performance) parts off brands like TT, slapping them into their garish case and ending up with something that looks like a christmas tree and sounds like a tumble dryer.

TT are to cases and modding what EA are to game publishing and what Microsoft are to security and uptime.

Gone West

I'm with SyxPak on this.
Buying a premade case shouldn't really be called casemodding, technically its "casebuying".

A lot of new cases are readymade, unindividual and require no work to assemble / "mod".
I dont think that adding X Neon pipes and Y fan Leds constitutes case modding.

<blatant pimpage>
Might I draw your attention to this.
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=261441
</blatant pimpage>

Lord Oz

It needs speedholes - it makes the computer go faster.

Gone West

Funny, someone actually said that to me today about my case.

Dundhoone

Considering your latest creation Fuzzy, I can see you dont much like the look of ordinary cases!

All the same , if im going to buy a (fairly) expensive case, I want to like the look of it to start off, and anything I dont like I'll sort out later with a bit of choppy choppy.

I guess to someone who has been modding for a while , popping some uv cables and lights into a case which comes with a window is no big deal (although it probabaly would have been when cases didnt have windows and uv/caselights + computers would make people think you were a two cans short of a sixpack)

But it sure is one step above buying an off the shelf pc.

Just wait till evey case manufacturer is making furry coated cases!!!!

po0k

Perhaps coating the exterior in wire-wool might aid heat disipation....copper-based brillo-pads anyone?