Creeped out

BlitzKrieg

Ok i am offically creeped out.

A friend of mine passed away under difficult circumstances over the christmas period. While i did not get any offical statement of his passing away, i was informed by his ex girlfriend that he had passed away while abroad.

Now Tonight i get an email from some woman in texas who is worried about him turning *gay* after meeting him last night.

This has greatly creeped me out and i have no idea what to do.

Gordon

Contact the Texan woman to confirm a possible coincidence. Check the email headers for a hoax.

gom

Sorry Blitz,

COuld you elaborate some on the women and the email and its context. Who is she refaring to?

the_syco

BlitzKrieg wrote:

A friend of mine passed away under difficult circumstances over the christmas period. While i did not get any offical statement of his passing away, i was informed by his ex girlfriend that he had passed away while abroad.

Confirm it.

BlitzKrieg

A friend of mine who was my housemate in university is a much older man, he was going through a difficult patch at christmas time and disapeared. We were informed he had gone to hungary...where he passed away. We were informed by his ex girlfriend who recieved a letter from someone who knew him in hungary.

that was at christmas.

tonight i get this email from someone i never known, she had got my email of my friends website and was emailing numerous people asking for help because she was worried about his *sexuality* I get numerous emails from her and from another person on the large list of emails she sent debating over his *sexuality* and i'm sitting in the middle confused because i thought he was dead all this time.


i have sent an email trying to confirm its the same person. But i dont know what to do if it is him. Clearly he didnt want certain people to keep in touch with him (his ex girlfriend) so i dont know if i'm one of them or not. Part of me wants to hit him for leading us all on another part hug him. but i'm seriously confused.

BlitzKrieg

His family also say he's dead, but he wasnt close to them (and he is a much older man then me) and i get the feeling they didnt really care because they just accepted when we enquired about his death and they still havnt come over to claim his possesions.

the_syco

Sounds suspicous, alright. Who told you he was going to Hungary?

Also, sorry if I sound insensitive, but so far I've heard "difficult patch", "ex girlfriend" and "gay".

I'd say play it by ear. Also, find out from the ex where he died, etc. Finally, when you say ex, do you mean ex before or after he dissapeared?

BlitzKrieg

ex before he disapeared. she started the whole mess by dumping him.

he told us he was going to hungary.

you see before he left, he attempted suicide but we stopped him and checked him into a hospital. but he was released a few weeks later.

then he disapeared, we rang police and all, but then John (our landlord) when he contacted his family got a message stating he had reapplied for a US passport. So we assumed he had set off for his trip to hungary to recover like he planned.

a week after the holidays his ex shows up in tears with a letter from one of the people in hungary he knew who says that his body was found in a ditch by the police and that he had taken his own life.

the matter was dropped after that, we had a service in his memory and moved on. But now this. There are so many people who believe he's dead (excluding his ex, i'm talking classmates, teachers and friends) and to suddenly tell them al he's alivel (and it will be me seeing i'm the one getting these emails)

Syco dont worry your not being insensitive i'm picking up the same messages, its just the shock of being left out of the loop of all this when i thought i was a friend is really making me confused (angry, relieved).

the_syco

Sounds like a fresh start. It may not be you, but a couple of factors weighing on his shoulder.
Whats the best way to do it? Fake your own death (Homer Simpson style), and tell everyone your dead.

As for the gay thing: it could be true. Try to contact the Texan, and see how long she has known him for. Maybe someone with the same name, but maybe not.

Finally, the fresh start idea. You meet someone in a foreign country. Do you

a) tell them your familys' address, or
b) your girlfriends' address, in case something happens?

The ex girlfriend? I think thats unlikely. Esp if he commited suicide. I think this is a low blow against the girlfriend, tbh.

/edit

May have been for his own good, but if someone put me into a nut house, and I got out, I'd run far far away, and burn all the bridges behind me. Just a thought.

BlitzKrieg

firstly he was put in the nuthouse by his ex girlfriend...its only after he escaped from the nuthouse and showed up at our place to play halo 2 (he was a big halo fan) that we became involved. At first we tried to hide him from the police, but when he tried to od on pills we convinced him it was best to go back for a short while and he genuinely looked like he was recovering and the trip to hungry seemed like a good idea to get away, but then he disapeared, he originally wanted to have a meal etc before leaving, but we woke up one mornign just to find him gone.

secondly his sexuality while a topic by this random woman is of no concern to me, i dont mind if he's attracted to dogs it doesnt concern or bother me.


my concern is to contact him to see should i *at least* inform those he considered friends of his current whereabouts or to play that he is dead (which i am uncomfortable with.)

jesus_thats_gre

Ever consider contacting the Police in Hungary to to see if they can confirm whether or not he was actually found dead in a ditch?

RoadSweeper

BlitzKrieg wrote:

the matter was dropped after that, we had a service in his memory and moved on.

Would his body not have been sent back for burial?

LundiMardi

BlitzKrieg wrote:

firstly he was put in the nuthouse by his ex girlfriend...its only after he escaped from the nuthouse and showed up at our place to play halo 2 (he was a big halo fan) that we became involved. At first we tried to hide him from the police, but when he tried to od on pills we convinced him it was best to go back for a short while and he genuinely looked like he was recovering and the trip to hungry seemed like a good idea to get away, but then he disapeared, he originally wanted to have a meal etc before leaving, but we woke up one mornign just to find him gone.

secondly his sexuality while a topic by this random woman is of no concern to me, i dont mind if he's attracted to dogs it doesnt concern or bother me.


my concern is to contact him to see should i *at least* inform those he considered friends of his current whereabouts or to play that he is dead (which i am uncomfortable with.)

well don't tell ANYONE about this until you know what the story is for definite. I don't really know what else to say tbh

Baffled

As Roadsweeper said, would his body not be sent back for burial? You say his family were not close, but surely they would have brought home his body. Is it not the norm that if someone dies out foreign, the authorities have to contact the family directly. Not just a letter from someone who knew him.

Canis Lupus

Why would a random woman send an email out regarding the mans sexuality? It's not a normal thing to do.

But whatever you do do not go telling people this. Contact the police. See if they can confirm the death. They wouldn't have just forgotten about finding a body. There should be a report.

Stench Blossoms

How did the woman get your email address?

Ardent

The "dead" guy you lived with and the Texan sending emails are clearly whackos, don't know why you are so bothered. I'd distance myself from them as much as possible.

Skip

It sounds too fishy to me, maybe "going to Hungary" is a metaphor for "committing suicide"? Seriously, I mean even if it's Hungary there'd still be some official follow-up to finding a body in a ditch, omg.

Santa Claus

Orla,

BlitzKrieg wrote:

tonight i get this email from someone i never known, she had got my email off my friends website and was emailing numerous people asking for help

Stench Blossoms

Santa Claus wrote:

Orla,

oops sorry

Linoge

This just sounds like one big sick joke.

Roadsweeper is right. They would have sent his body back for burial. I'm fairly sure I remember a case where a man wanted to be buried in France but he was a citizen of Ireland. He was only allowed to be buried there because he was a resident of France. So I doubt its even legal for him to be buried in Hungary. If nothing else, who was gonna fork out the funeral costs?

Canis Lupus made the point I was thinking the whole way through the post. Why would some Texan girl have gone to the trouble of getting your email address to find out about someones sexuality?? FFS, who cares? And even if she did care, who is sad enough to email people they don't even know to find out?

The whole thing reaks IMO.

PS. Please stop saying "passed away". "Died" is a perfectly good word.

guest31

Woah Blitzkrieg, this would freak anyone out ... well, as most have said here, you'll have to try to confirm whether this Texan lady is kosher ... and also, whether your friend has died. Is it possible for you to talk to the lady by telephone? That way you could vet her out better.

I can understand you feeling confused, angry, hurt by all this. Try not to believe anything until you have the facts as best you can. If it turns out that your friend is alive, for whatever reason, he wanted to disappear, leave his life behind, cut all ties ... perhaps he opened up to this Texan lady and she is genuinely worried about him. It's plausible (sp?) ... keep this all to your self until you have more info. Keep strong. Keep us updated as it's an intriguing (albeit for you, traumatic) episode ... good luck.

the_syco

[size=+1]Hungarian Embassy[/size]
2 Fitzwilliam Place
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Tel: (+353 1) 661-2902 or (+353 1) 661-2903
Fax: (+353 1) 661-2880
E-mail: hungarian.embassy@eircom.net

http://www.kum.hu/dublin/index.html

You could ring or email these guys to see what the process is about dead people they find. Also on how to get in contact with the police to get any records on it.

Best of luck.

Trojan

Beat me to it syco... that's your best bet.

BlitzKrieg

firstly on the body, he's an american citizen so the body wouldnt have gone anywhere near us. But i am getting in touch with the embassy now to find out.

I'm checking with our landlord today for more details as he was the one who dealt with the family.

Ok housemate just got off the phone.

They said that his half brother went over to confirm the body and that they would be come over here to collect his possesions. That was back in january and they still havnt come to claim his possesions. The landlord said that this was over a period of weeks (they said first time going over to confirm and then 2 weeks later said they were collecting his possesions) So he assumed they confirmed the body.

iguana

Try and check if he has a death certificate. Not sure if this would be stored in Hungary, I'd guess if he's a US citizen it would be held in his local office for births, deaths and marraige certs.

Good luck.

aphex™

If you PM me his name i can run it through an archive of over 11,000 english language newspapers and see if it was reported in any Texan newspapers or whatever.

BlitzKrieg

Well it seems he is alive...the girl in the email sent me this:

http://profiles.yahoo.com/shangshangtyphoon

thats him. And it was updated on may23rd. The asshole is alive. Now i need to decide wether to kill him or kiss him.

So i've sent him an email. So i'll see how he responds.

Linoge

Fcukin hell! What a sicko. Send him an email telling him how much of a sick bastard he is, then never talk to him again.

New life or not, mentally insane or not, he's one sick fcuk to let people who cared about him think he was dead.

BlitzKrieg

can i ask who rated this thread 5 stars?

wierd

tinkerbell

That's some seriously sick and twisted joke that the guy played :eek:

Let us know what he says in the email, if he replies!

0utshined

Forget about him, he's using the name "Kasper Hauser" on his webpage so i'd take that as a sign that he knew what he was doing.

StandnDeliver

thats a real sick joke,dont be afraid to tell him what you feel,the poor ex gf probably blaming herself the whole time,and the tears that were shed for him ,what a wanker

the_syco

The gf dumps him, puts him in a nut house. Poor guy.

ANYONE put me in a mental home, and I'd make 'em pay. Fair balls to what he did. Also, don't tell the gf. Talk to him. Tell the gf, and he'll proberly dissappear again, and then you'll never see him again.

Dude wanted to dissappear. You may think that you know him, and if so I ask you this: how much did you know of the going on's between him, his ex, his family, etc? Dude proberly has his reasons. If you tell the gf, and she lets it slip that you let her know, he'll never make any contact with you ever.

We ain't talking about someone who decides to go away, and not speak to any of the people he knew again.

We're talking about someone who was thrown in a mental home, ran away, broke off all contact, faked his own death, and moved to the otherside of the world. This is a guy who doesn't seem to WANT to be found. If your talking to him, remember these last two paragraphs. Sounds like some real bad sh|t went on, and he fled.

Also, how long was he in the nut house? The Irish nut houses are renown for their crap inadequacies, so they may have not really helped him, or had an ill effect on him (the attempted suicide). The saying "you'll never get me alive" comes to mind.

BlitzKrieg

first of all...this happened in cambridge. so its not the irish nut house. And he seemed qute happy to be staying in the same dorm as a female nymphomaniac (or so he said over a game of halo 2)


I understand he doesnt want any contact with his ex girlfriend, but i dont know about me and his other friends because his Ex told us he had passed away so he might not have meant to bring us in on this disapearing act.


of course enquiring about my landlords dealing with his family the landlord let slip that he still does owe 300 pounds in rent, so we all agreed not to tell him that he's still alive.


On your final comment Syco, if he does start talking to me again, i'll get him to pass on his story of how he escaped the mental home (he was very proud of it)

I've sent him an email so if i get a response or not will decide where this will go.

Beruthiel

Blitz
this has got to be the mose bizarre thread I have ever read on boards.
Let us know if he responds to your e mail, I am truly curious as to what his reply is going to be after all this
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Skip

BlitzKrieg wrote:

of course enquiring about my landlords dealing with his family the landlord let slip that he still does owe 300 pounds in rent, so we all agreed not to tell him that he's still alive.

Strange but I guess I understand now why he'd want to get off the scene :rolleyes:

guest31

and I thought lastnight's football was extraordinary ... ! Thanks for the updates Blitz, keep 'em coming. Who knows what your friend was going through, well, okay he put you all through a lot of crap, but hell, we're all human. He did what was best for him, he put himself and his well being first.

Has nobody else reading this felt like running away from their lives, just dropping everything, all the baggage and starting anew. No ties, no past, no judgments, a clean slate ... in saying that, I'd never do it cos I know at the end of the day I'd still be me, and starting all over again, would just result in the same 'me' after a while anyway! Besides, I'm happy at the mo' ...

Have to wonder tho, if your friend really didn't want to be found again, why did he leave a trail on the net ... hmmm ...

the_syco

BlitzKrieg wrote:

first of all...this happened in cambridge.

Suppose... once he didn't goto the CambridgeMentalHospital(.com).

Jekell

Any update about this?

BlitzKrieg

no reply from emailing him so either he is dead (and this is a bad taste hoax) or he simply doesnt want to talk...hence i'm gonna let it go for the moment and get on with my life.

guest31

So I take it this was a hoax ... good one ... Moderators, BAN BLITZ ...

aphex™

guest31 wrote:

So I take it this was a hoax ... good one ... Moderators, BAN BLITZ ...

But he was the victim of the hoax?

Ardent

Ardent wrote:

The "dead" guy you lived with and the Texan sending emails are clearly whackos, don't know why you are so bothered. I'd distance myself from them as much as possible.

I stand by what I said two weeks ago. Hoax is very likely.

Beruthiel

guest31 wrote:

So I take it this was a hoax ... good one ... Moderators, BAN BLITZ ...

I suggest you read the thread correctly next time before taking on the moderator roll
B

*Page*

could it be that the girl had his password for this profile and updated it herself!

guest31

I had read this thread Moderator, and made a comment on 26-05 ... and was v. interested in updates. Blitz's latest post sounded like a confession to me. On re-reading his latest post I now see that the link to his friend's website may have been a hoax. Apologies to Blitz for taking this up wrongly.

(oh, and of course, sorry, Moderator)

BlitzKrieg

way to ressurect a long gone pi issue, but after 3 years he finally gets around to actually messaging me again...


to complain about us using his poster in a film.

http://ie.youtube.com/user/milespieri


a most bizarred reintroduction to the strangest chapter in my life.

RedXIV

Thats the weirdest thing i've read in PI in a LOOOOOONNNGGGGG time

Wagon

Holy crap, that was really really weird. And I'm still laughing at the latest comment left on his youtube page. To be honest, if my ex threw me in the nuthouse i'd be pretty pissed off too. Anyway, did you reply to him?

BlitzKrieg

yeah I did, sort of tongue in cheek though, mainly cause I am lost for words at what to actually ask him?