Oasis - Yay or Nay?

Jimmy_Jazz

Inspired by the "The Wisdom of Noel Gallagher" thread over in the Music/Radio forum, which was turning into a fantastic debate, I hereby declare:

I like Oasis.

What say you?

ballsmahoney

Nay,nay,nay
"Its just a matter of opinion"

mr_angry

I loved the old Oasis - changed my life completely. The new stuff, no.

Doctor J

They had their moments but the new album is really weak, IMO. Nothing on it which is above average at best.

Dublin's Finest

These debates only end in disaster...

Giblet

At least it'll be on topic

Keyzer

A sly dig eh?

Should have done a poll instead...

bellx

Doctor J wrote:

They had their moments but the new album is really weak, IMO. Nothing on it which is above average at best.

Do you not like 'The importance of being idle' or 'let there be love'?? I think 'part of the queue' is great too.
Its strange the critics seem to love this one, what was it about it you don't like?

-oRnein9-

Keyzer wrote:

A sly dig eh?

Should have done a poll instead...

Definately Maybe }
Whats Da Story Morning Glory }
Be Here Now }

All pure class, it all went a bit dodgy after that although I have new hope for the latest album.

oh yeah yay. :cool: and gimme back my avatar. :mad:

Doctor J

bellx wrote:

Do you not like 'The importance of being idle' or 'let there be love'?? I think 'part of the queue' is great too.
Its strange the critics seem to love this one, what was it about it you don't like?

Dunno, it just left me cold. I gave it a few listens and was just... meh. It was pleasant and all, but just... no fire in it, no oooomph. I thought it was all just very flat.

Giblet

I can add in a poll if you'd like, but I want to see discussion rather than "Yay" or "Nay" in every post.

Bungalow Bill

Doctor J wrote:

Dunno, it just left me cold. I gave it a few listens and was just... meh. It was pleasant and all, but just... no fire in it, no oooomph. I thought it was all just very flat.

Was 'the meaning of soul' not enough ooomph for ya!!

Creamy Goodness

Doctor J wrote:

They had their moments but the new album is really weak, IMO. Nothing on it which is above average at best.

Doctor J sums them up for me, i liked their first two records when they were out, now though i just dispise them for what they are.

Jonny Arson

Oasis are still one of my favourite bands and they always will be. Sometimes I think to myself that Oasis are sh*te but the other day when I listened to the first 2 albums I realised how great they were. I don't believe Oasis have ever put out a bad album, its a simple case that Be Here Now and S.O.T.S.O.G were not in the same league as the first two so their popularity has dropped amongst the casual fans. Heathen Chemistry was a fine album and proved that Oasis are still a cut above most of the bands today. Oasis are an anthems band. Their music is about the songs and not trying to create as many new sounds as possible in order to please the indie kids. I will admit their music is not as creative at this stage of their career as I would wish but I still love this band more than anything. Also they are still as popular as ever with sold out gigs across Britain and Ireland and they have only sold out Madison Square Garden.

Nuff said..... I'm still Mad For it!

Bungalow Bill

Cremo wrote:

Doctor J sums them up for me, i liked their first two records when they were out, now though i just dispise them for what they are.

I really don't understand this attitude. How can you love a band for 2-3 years and then absolutely despise them?? It makes no sense. If you were just jumping on the bandwagon then, then chances are you are just doing the same now.

Töpher

Don't like them, never really did anything for me.

By that, I mean: (So noone can accuse me of blind hatred)

The songs bore me
Alot of the songs sound the same
Repitition
I don't like listening to a whining scumbag
Repitition



In all, nay.

Giblet

It makes sense if you thought that while their first two albums were good, they were just recycling the same crap over and over again now.

-oRnein9-

Zane from MTV2 wrote:

Oasis are still one of my favourite bands and they always will be. Sometimes I think to myself that Oasis are sh*te but the other day when I listened to the first 2 albums I realised how great they were. I don't believe Oasis have ever put out a bad album, its a simple case that Be Here Now and S.O.T.S.O.G were not in the same league as the first two so their popularity has dropped amongst the casual fans. Heathen Chemistry was a fine album and proved that Oasis are still a cut above most of the bands today. Oasis are an anthems band. Their music is about the songs and not trying to create as many new sounds as possible in order to please the indie kids. I will admit their music is not as creative at this stage of their career as I would wish but I still love this band more than anything. Also they are still as popular as ever with sold out gigs across Britain and Ireland and they have only sold out Madison Square Garden.

Nuff said..... I'm still Mad For it!

Ah now I have disagree and say that Be here now was and still is a great album maybe not as good as Definately Maybe or Whats da story but few are, however i do agree that Standing on the shoulders of giants was a piece of crap.

Oh and I still have much love for oasis

Anyone got a ticket for Marley park 16th July? I wouldn't miss it for the world.

Bungalow Bill

Giblet wrote:

It makes sense if you thought that while their first two albums were good, they were just recycling the same crap over and over again now.

Not really actually, how does that make any sense?

The songs are different songs, the melodies aren't repeated. Are you viewing this from a purely production point of view?

Bungalow Bill

-oRnein9- wrote:

Ah now I have disagree and say that Be here now was and still is a great album maybe not as good as Definately Maybe or Whats da story but few are, however i do agree that Standing on the shoulders of giants was a piece of crap.

Oh and I still have much love for oasis

Anyone got a ticket for Marley park 16th July? I wouldn't miss it for the world.

Can't wait for marlay park, but what I can't wait for more is Manchester on june 30th!!What a feckin gig that will be!

gobby

NAY. Cant stand them. I liked the first two albums for a bit but then went off them bigtime. My taste in music was changing a lot at the time too...

Creamy Goodness

Bungalow Bill wrote:

I really don't understand this attitude. How can you love a band for 2-3 years and then absolutely despise them?? It makes no sense. If you were just jumping on the bandwagon then, then chances are you are just doing the same now.

it's their attitude that i can't stand now it's like we are ****ing the best band in the world and if you don't like that **** off type of thing, any picture you see of liam he's giving the salute.

Bungalow Bill

Cremo wrote:

it's their attitude that i can't stand now it's like we are ****ing the best band in the world and if you don't like that **** off type of thing, any picture you see of liam he's giving the salute.

What has that got to do with the music!!!

Jesus, would you rather Elliot smiths attitude of wanting to kill himself>?

cregser

I liked the first two albums. Bought the 3rd and tried to like it, but failed. They went **** after that. Only like bits of the first album now.

But their current single is kinda catchy. Not great... catchy.

Steven

Oasis - Yay or Nay?

You're missing an option.

Yay
Meh <--
Nay

They're just not interesting anymore.

JimboPope

I have to admit I was a huge fan of the band in the mid nineties when they were at the height of their powers, I even had the liam galagher hair cut.
These days i cant stand their music, the first two albums had some cracking tunes but i feel they were a case of being in the right place at the right time.
The added media hype that was around them at the time built them up to be something they were not.
They were one of the first 'serious' bands I got into (i was only discovering music at the time) but in their case as in all cases, they were good until I heard something better. As I started looking deeper into their influences and buying records by the stones and the sex pistols and I realised that they were just a poor imitation of what was already around, with nothing new to offer music, just rehasing the same old tunes.

lordgoat

nay

Bungalow Bill wrote:

Jesus, would you rather ElliotT smiths attitude of wanting to kill himself>?

attitude?? i'm sure it was his attitude that made him do it, and there's is alot more to his attitude and music than death and morbidity.

Jimmy_Jazz

I've never understood why Oasis take so much flak over not "progressing" as a band. They're a mainstream rock 'n' roll band. What do you expect, a death metal album followed by some hardcore disco? I happen to love their sound, and I'd hate if they suddenly changed. Oasis are a great band, with great songs. Yay, I tells ya, YAY!!!

Doctor J

I think they're currently less than the sum of their parts. I mean, apart from the Gallagher boys, they've got Ringo's lad on drums, who is a very fine drummer indeed, infinitley better than the last two losers. Gem is no slouch and Andy Bell, well I'd expect the man behind Going Blank Again to be operating at a much higher level tbh.

Bungalow Bill

Doctor J wrote:

I think they're currently less than the sum of their parts. I mean, apart from the Gallagher boys, they've got Ringo's lad on drums, who is a very fine drummer indeed, infinitley better than the last two losers. Gem is no slouch and Andy Bell, well I'd expect the man behind Going Blank Again to be operating at a much higher level tbh.

The album hasn't grown on you at all then??
Oh well, have you heard 'step into my world' by Hurricane#1??? I think its a quality song but apparantly Andy suffers from writers block quite a lot.

Bungalow Bill

Like 'world on fire' a lot btw. Its not that dissimilar in style from 'part of the queue' though!
I like the little break where the rhythm cuts out and leads into that funkier bit. Are you playing on it? Where'd ya record it?

super_furry

One great album, one decent one and the rest are rubbish. Nay.

Doctor J

Bungalow Bill wrote:

Like 'world on fire' a lot btw. Its not that dissimilar in style from 'part of the queue' though!
I like the little break where the rhythm cuts out and leads into that funkier bit. Are you playing on it? Where'd ya record it?

Thanks, I'm playing drums on it and we recorded it in a school hall in Raheny. Engineered by me and dabhoys, Seaney sings and plays guitar on it.. a real Boards group effort We recorded four tunes over the last bank holiday weekend, got three more to mix, will hopefully have another one finished by the end of the week.

As for Andy Bell... I really like Hurricane #1, thought their second album was really excellent... that's why I'm mystified as to why the new Oasis album sounds so... meh, given the talent in the group at the moment. It sounds like a songwriters album, rather than someone who writes songs, if you know what I mean. It might as well be a Paul Brady album, you know, someone who writes songs for a living rather than a person just writing a song (like the first album especially). It doesn't have that swagger that really made the first couple of albums. I gave it another listen yesterday and it's still leaving me underwhelmed.

funktastic

Seeing as Noel Gallagher is such an autocrat there's no real mystery why the album is so average. Andy Bell's best stuff was on 'Nowhere' or parts of 'Going blank again' by Ride. Bell is treated like a session musician and more or less sees the job as such, they're older now and aren't going to come out with groundbreaking stuff, I don't know why everyone expects so much. 'Definitely maybe' was written when they were nobodies, which is often the period when bands write their best stuff, a case in point is The Stone Roses. I think Noel pays too much attention to critical opinion and is afraid to go out on a limb with a new direction, the talent is undeniably there - Liam Gallagher still has a unique voice.

Branners

i don't mind oasis, considering there a rip off band!

Be here now is a diabolical album, full of lame songs.
First album was the best didn't mind the last two albums at least they tried something different instead of be here now, with that they just tried to use the same format as the fist 2 only it failed, lack of good songs!

Jonny Arson

I've always thought to myself that Be Here Now could have been quite a good album if they weren't so high on drugs at the time. It does have lots of catchy songs but lyrically its horrendous and the guitars are sheer awful on the album.

orangerooster

Nay,never really did anything for me to begin with apart from a few tracks on Definitely Maybe but now their just total rubbish. That new album is so boring and dull!

fightin irish

I remember seein 'em at the tivoli(sp?) in '94 and i was like WHEY HEY, I was also very proud at slane 95 when a serious amount of the crowd just sort of walked away from the stage when oasis finished and R E M( who were headlining) Came on.

Then as alot of people said, the next albums i felt were nothing, Kinda empty. They deffo kicked started the music scene after the Stone Roses. Also i havnt heard the new album yet I did hear it was going back to thier first two albums??

Anyway just bring back the stone roses and rest can all fall in behind

catching_streams

Definately yah, think they've got the ball rolling again with the new album, sounds terrific and Liams voice is superb, although his late late show acoustic was dodgy...they will never recreate the 90s success but there after redeeming themselves with the new album, not a band for indie snobs anyway.