Should Escort agencies be legalised in Ireland and would you use them?

Definelty legalised as this would reduce Mafia influence in this area, and introduce proper competition into the market. And I would definetly use them as I have in the past

Quantum

Deleted User wrote:

Definelty legalised as this would reduce Mafia influence in this area, and introduce proper competition into the market. And I would definetly use them as I have in the past

It's nice to encounter a little piece of honesty

For me I could see myself using an escort in special circumstances, for example where I have been abroad on business trips for several days at a time.
Pay for sex ? mmmm.... don't think so..... but if others so, it's no big deal if the circumstances are consensual and appropriate.

Fysh

Megatron wrote:

This isn't done for any other job, while certian jobs do require Psychiatric visits to ensure the preson is able to function in the work place ( Space, Sub .. stuff like that) i don't see why people should be questioned to why they want to do the job ? i certianly was never questioned on my chosen profession ( Comp tech / supervisor). Don't see why it should be any different.

With some restrictions in place , well not restrictions but rather regulations the chance of someone being dupped into this line of work would be rather curtailed.

Well, how many jobs require the ability to fake intimacy with total strangers on a regular basis? My point being that many high-profile porn stars, such as Jenna Jameson, have spoken out in recent years about the effects of working in porn on their personal lives; the main issue being the requirement to distinguish between "sex at home" and "sex at work" and the difficulties some partners have in understanding the distinction. Then there's the whole degradation aspect of certain types of porn.

Personally, I think the existing sex industry is already failing to protect the long-term mental health of its performers, chiefly because those involved in production have seen a rise in competition (and corresponding thinning out of profits) as the internet's popularity and availability has expanded - so the last thing they want to do is admit that working in their industry can mentally scar people and land themselves with requirements to pay for therapy sessions for all performers or wahtever.

Shabadu

Megatron wrote:

i don't see why people should be questioned to why they want to do the job ? i certianly was never questioned on my chosen profession ( Comp tech / supervisor). Don't see why it should be any different.

Hmm. And in your lofty position as Comp Tech/Supervisor have you ever been asked to straddle over a table and insert an aubergine into your rectum?

tigerlily

Hmm. And in your lofty position as Comp Tech/Supervisor



Shabadu, you are obviously a nasty peice of work. It might not be 'high' enough of a position in your eyes, but i think u should cut the slagging out before u give an opinion.

Hmm. And in your lofty position as Comp Tech/Supervisor have you ever been asked to straddle over a table and insert an aubergine into your rectum?

Just curious as to whether you have? Or is this just idle speculation that this can occur? Cause as far as I'm aware most escorts would point blank refuse to such a request. (Similiar to why many escorts/hookers will refuse to french kiss clients)

dearg_doom

smccarrick wrote:

The experiment in the Netherlands appears to be paying off- escorts have the security of knowing they can rely on the law as and when its required,

Holland isn't a very good example tbh; while it is 'legal'(or more rathe 'accepted') and it is taxed and they do STI checks regularly, it is riddled with criminality.

There are more cartels in Amsterdam than in Moscow!!

They provide the hash to the hash-bars(you didn't think they bought it from the government now did you?:)); they smuggle in the eastern-European/-African girls for their brothels, they own the city!

They're scary batsards too, if ye've ever been in the red light district ye'll probably have seen them!! And they're making more money now than when all these things were illegal!(most of the RLD's are used by tourists as opposed to the indigenous population)


No, if we were to legelise Escort agencies, I'd prefer them to do it properly than the half assed way that Holland did it!! But has any government initiative in this country ever been done properly???

Fysh

tigerlily wrote:

Hmm. And in your lofty position as Comp Tech/Supervisor



Shabadu, you are obviously a nasty peice of work. It might not be 'high' enough of a position in your eyes, but i think u should cut the slagging out before u give an opinion.

Well done tigerlily for that sterling contribution to the thread. *sigh*

Get past your own personal disagreement with Shabadu and you might notice that she, like me, has raised a valid point - ie that the lack of counselling in many jobs does not automatically mean a job involving sexual intimacy will not take its mental toll on people. If you have an answer for this, I'd be interested in hearing it. If you just want to attack people (particularly amusingly, since you then decry people attacking each other in the very next sentence) you're going to have to let go of that moral high ground you seem to think you're entitled to....

Is this thread about Escorts or normal Hookers? Because there is a difference.

With the assumption that sex is assured at the end of either encounter, Escorts are still far above that of hookers. The comparison with Holland is a bit off.

dearg_doom, mentions the Red Light district, which doesn't contain escorts. Those streets contain hookers (Window-dressers ), which consists of a blowjob and straight sex for 50 euro. This is the lower end of the scale, with everyone knowing that the Red Light is for the Tourists, and those that aren't fussy.

Escorts in Holland on the other hand charge anything from 600 euro, upwards to 3000 euros. They're educated, and perfectly content in doing their jobs, cause they're making great money.

Personally I wouldn't look to Holland for an example. I'd look at Spain. Brothels, and escorts are far more common there, and are a part of the culture. Its not a tourist gimmic like in Holland, but rather something thats considered perfectly normal. I don't actually know if its legal or not, but it doesn't have the same crinimality or scumminess that countries like Holland, or France has towards standard prostitution. (Not including quality Escorts)

The problem with this thread is that people are lumping the two together. There is a major difference in the service, quality, and cost between escorts and hookers.

My issue with the escort industry in Ireland is that theres such a stigma behind it. Irish people view paying for sex as being wrong. (However, buying a girl a drink with that aim is ok). Because there is such a stigma against any form of prostitution, its impossible for the industry to progress into anything proper. And so people give out that its run by crinimals, or that women are kidnapped to be hookers, and yet they don't realise it is THEY THEMSELVES that are holding back the industry from entering a "civilised" world.

Ireland is probably the worst country I have been in for escorts, or hookers. Yay for the puritins. However, until prostitution becomes legal and regulated, this industry will continue to work in the shadows and will continue to be operated by major crime organisations.

Legalise it.

Tristram

yes and no.

Dr Cox's Ego

smccarrick wrote:

he experiment in the Netherlands appears to be paying off- escorts have the security of knowing they can rely on the law as and when its required, in turn they pay their taxes like everyone else. Staff are tested for STDs every 3 months and the entire industry is treated as just another business sector- to everyones benefit

I thought it was monthly tests in the Netherlands?