Poor state of D01

angry_fox

Anybody else think that D01 is a disgrace? Last count there was 10 pcs down. Think it’s a disgrace that the college have refused to anything about it. They really don’t give a sh*t about multimedia students. Over the past few weeks multimedia students have struggled to get assignments in on time (seen a girl in tears one night, her pc had crashed) because there is not enough working pcs to go around and the software that we use does not run properly on the pcs in the room. The new I.T. building has been little or no help to multimedia students. Lectures are also unable to teach classes properly in D01 due to equipment failing, can’t understand how they can put up with such poor teaching conditions. Can’t believe the college has been looking for university statues because what ive seen over the past couple of years, they don’t deserve it.

Talaghn

I agree i dont got to the WIT but alot of me friends have said how bad the conditions are in there. Why should the government give money to them so they can become a UNI when theydont even have the standards to be and IT at the moment. They needto fix it up first!

p~b

whats the difference between a uni and an It

Rew

p~b wrote:

whats the difference between a uni and an It

Funding...

And Unis dont do sub degree level courses

angry_fox

Talaghn wrote:

I agree i dont got to the WIT but alot of me friends have said how bad the conditions are in there. Why should the government give money to them so they can become a UNI when theydont even have the standards to be and IT at the moment. They needto fix it up first!

It will take a while for WIT to do anything. Last year in d05 there was a leak in the roof and it took a couple of months to fix. Its not a nice feeling doing work on a pc when there a bucket filling up with water beside you.

bribren2001

angry_fox wrote:

It will take a while for WIT to do anything. Last year in d05 there was a leak in the roof and it took a couple of months to fix. Its not a nice feeling doing work on a pc when there a bucket filling up with water beside you.

d01 is bad but d04 and d02 are worst.

d02 is supposed to be for 4th year projects but you cant do anything in there because the pc's arent working or are a complete piece of sh*te- windows media player doesnt even work in there

angry_fox

Good news is it that d04 has been cleaned out. I’m praying that they will put in better machines but they will probably turn it into an ordinary classroom. Think they have media player 7 installed on the machines in d02? It’s shocking that ye had to do a fourth year project in that room. Were ye completely ignored when ye complained about the room? Early in the year did anyone have to fill out a questionnaire about what we think about the college and what are future plans are?

bribren2001

im not sure what version of WMP it is but it dont play mp3's anyway.

when we complained they just ignored us to be honest

no i dont remember filling out or hearing about any questionaire that had to be filled out- i would of loved to of filled one out because i would of let them know in no uncertain terms what i thaught of this place

Rew

Lads, if you complain that you cannt listen to MP3's they arn't going to care...

bribren2001

i was just giving the example of mp3, if i was to mention everything i would be hear until tomorrow.

all the rooms in the D corridoor are rubbish and the I.t building aint much better

one would wonder why they call it an I.T building when on numerous occassions i was kicked out because there was a first year class for chefs or a class of agriculture.

Mitch Connor

i'm getting fed up of being kicked out of the IT Labs because some lecturer wants to teach 3 bleedin students! there are, what, 30+ PCs in each IT room? so irritating. Also, too many of the PCs do not allow you to safely remove hardware(USB key, MP3 player ect.)

Rew

Well if I were you id pick a better example, maybe something related to college work?

I.T. building is a bit of a joke alright, alot of it is offices some not realting to P&Q. I thought they were going to leave alot of the rooms in the E block for the other cources but obviously not...

Rollo Tamasi

bribren2001 wrote:

one would wonder why they call it an I.T building when on numerous occassions i was kicked out because there was a first year class for chefs or a class of agriculture.

Your dead right Bribren, i remember last year Dunphy told us that we would have a dedicated room for Multimedia in the IT building and that D01 would be brought up to standard!! I don't what planet he is on half the time.

only a few weeks ago when the two new dells for Video Editing where introduced he practically told people not to use them in case they get broken!!! Er, take a look around dopey!! Nothing works! God knows what the two boyo's get paid for in the little office they have?

i'm sick of these friggin night courses as well! why do they have to be in D01 when all they are been tought is how to use Dreamweaver, which is on a load of other computers! ?

angry_fox

Somebody robbed the flat screen for one of the new video machines. Security camera should be installed in d01. Had a phone robbed on me to. Somebody even robbed Dunphys memory stick.

Dunphy has been promised a new multimedia room, dvd burners etc, but as always he just gets f**ked by the college. He cant really give out because it might cost him his job, its really up to use to bring change, but what can we do?

New fourth year multimedia is trying to be pushed through by dunphy, but as usual he is getting the run around by the college.

Who is head of P&Q any way?

Rew

angry_fox wrote:

Who is head of P&Q any way?

New guy, Micheal O' hEigeartaigh, came from DCU.

Rollo Tamasi

4th year multimedi!
sounds good, but i suppose its all down to the subjects

What subjects would ye like to see introduced in a 4th Year Multimedia?
If your a first/second/third year student what subjects would ye like to see introduced in your current years?

i think its disgracefull that we never get asked for feedback on these issues, never is our opinion asked. I know the college needs to think finances first but us students should have more of a input on the course. Maybe if a few of us(now in 3rd year) kicked up a fuss about the subjects in first/second year then we might have seen change?

angry_fox

For fourth year id like to see us learning 3D apps, more flash, php or coldfusion. The subjects in first and second were pretty crap (Communications, HCI......). Don’t worry second years it gets worse in third year. To be honest there's very little multimedia in third year. It felt more like an IT course. A lot of third years are un-happy and worried. Many feel they have wasted a year and some feel that they have learned nothing new. Its saddens me that at the end of a degree course im looking to go to other colleges. I dont blame the lectures, sure what can they do, but the college..... its a disgrace. They insult all computing students and me when they say they deserve uni status. It should'int even be called an "Institute of Technology"

mike65

Sounds like you need to by-pass the WIT entirly and get the local media onside

may I suggest writing/e-mailing/ the editors of Waterford Today, Munster Express and News and Star. Oh and Billy McCarthy on WLR FM

Mike.

Legend_Killer

Funny how were told time and time again that any serious graphic designers all make use of mac's yer their all safely locked away down the hallway..... oh the genius thats running this show deserves a medal!

Rollo Tamasi

Legend_Killer wrote:

Funny how were told time and time again that any serious graphic designers all make use of mac's yer their all safely locked away down the hallway..... oh the genius thats running this show deserves a medal!

A serious graphic designer!! WTF is that! i think what you meant to say was a serious graphic designer who can read, just as anyone else, the contents of a computer Arts tutorial and then sucsessfully click buttons as illustrated by a black and white handout!!

i don't want to sound like a complete "toilet seat", but whats a MAC?
is it like pimp talk--for example -"hey yo MAC-daddy i'm going to fail you, mo-fo"

Legend_Killer

Legend has it that their like the computers in D01 but.............. WORK!

Rollo Tamasi

i can't even spell MAC, let alone use one!
much is the pity

AC Slater

angry_fox wrote:

It will take a while for WIT to do anything. Last year in d05 there was a leak in the roof and it took a couple of months to fix. Its not a nice feeling doing work on a pc when there a bucket filling up with water beside you.

Quite like the fact that, the ahh leak is still there and the room is as **** as ever! DO4 is equally as bad, the size of them monitors should be illegal nowadays.
I'm doin the 4th year IT course, and i'd say i have about 2 classes over in that building. Half the time its reserved for cookery or some crap, and dont get me started on some of the retarded students (not cookery) ... lets say the older lemons. ... one day theres 2 of them in the room with no lecturer and she goes "theres a class on in here" time being about half 10 or somethin like that, no lecturer, the two of them are auld first years that didnt have a clue anyway and hence theres no f*****g class in there . ignorant as hell anyway

Good luck gettin UNI status, dosent deserve it at the moment anyway, puttin up a new building and all, why cant other "small" things be done, common repairs etc.....

angry_fox

Slater, would you recommend people do fourth year?

We had a networks class in D04 this year and id say we done about three classes. It was crap. Them monitors really hurt your eyes after an hour.

Freehand is crap.

Legend_Killer

angry_fox wrote:

Freehand is crap.

Gettin that written as my epitaph i am! maybe ill even expand further and add that indesign is too!

AC Slater

some would like it, theres one or 2 multimedia girls dominatin in our class this year ... so ya never know, i'll let ya know when i get results! If they change the rooms around and plan it better, it could work out ok. We got projects thrown at us from all angles this year, wasn't handsome!
Duno how semesterisation will work out for ye, better or worse, suppose just wait and see.
We were lucky do get the course this year, was coming in to the year not knowing what was going on and thinkin we only had the other BSC course to do, which i probably would have droped out of after a few weeks.
After doin F all for the year really, just crammin, im gettin by ... same for the last 4 years, remember college is all about crammin for exams, u learn sfa

Rollo Tamasi

AC Slater wrote:

remember college is all about crammin for exams, u learn sfa

thats so true, especailly when it comes to crammin, you can remember stuff to a certain extent prior and during an exam but as soon as its over you pretty much forget it all again, and at the end of it all your no better than a goldfish.
Expect of course that goldfish ain't got legs, ohh and a education, ohh and a student bank loan, but remember they are in schools!!!! HA AH HA HA AH HA HA HA..........HA!

It would be cool if we could have done some sort of work placement cuz in a job interview situation you'll always get asked "what did you do and what did you learn from your work expierence?". They are more interested in the practical side of education and learning rather than theory.

Legend_Killer

AC Slater wrote:

some would like it, theres one or 2 multimedia girls dominatin in our class this year ... so ya never know, i'll let ya know when i get results! If they change the rooms around and plan it better, it could work out ok. We got projects thrown at us from all angles this year, wasn't handsome!
Duno how semesterisation will work out for ye, better or worse, suppose just wait and see.
We were lucky do get the course this year, was coming in to the year not knowing what was going on and thinkin we only had the other BSC course to do, which i probably would have droped out of after a few weeks.
After doin F all for the year really, just crammin, im gettin by ... same for the last 4 years, remember college is all about crammin for exams, u learn sfa

im told that we wont actually have to go through semesterisation should we go on to fourth year. their only gonna do it for anyone starting in fist year!

Rollo Tamasi

so why did we not get a exam in AGD this easter, the reason given to us that we would no longer be doing easter exams as a result of the change and we ain't in first year!

Legend_Killer

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

so why did we not get a exam in AGD this easter, the reason given to us that we would no longer be doing easter exams as a result of the change and we ain't in first year!

Well that would be for future multimedia students wouldnt it? i for one dont plan on doing the year again and as a result wont have to think about the possibility of a third year easter exam in advanced graphic design!

Rollo Tamasi

erh, what! It also be that the lecturer doesn't really know whats going on!!!!!!

bp_me

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

so why did we not get a exam in AGD this easter, the reason given to us that we would no longer be doing easter exams as a result of the change and we ain't in first year!

While the semesterisation will onlt affect incoming first years, the whole college will run to the semesterised time - table.


Im not a multi-media student and can't comment on the rooms in the D corridor (I'm never over there), I can say that I feel your pain.

I'm an engineering student, and use AutoCAD a lot. In the IT building there are two rooms on the top floor with this software. C11 also has it, but the majority of the mice don't have scroll wheels (try using AutoCAD without one), and those that do won't allow me to use my memory key with them.

There is also a room over in the AT building on the ground floor where the PCs have AutoCAD. They are the pcs that came out of d25 last year when they were cleaning out the D corridor. Again, no fecking scroll wheels on most of the mice. Though at least my memory key works with the computers there.

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edit: and you give out about a computer room for 3 people, how about one for just me......thats right, just me!!

MrShadow

in 99 the college were threatened with legal action by the 3rd year multimedia students with regard to lack of facilities and lecturers. Glad to see things have improved so much since then

Rollo Tamasi

yeah things are so much better now MrShadow!
So what happened with the legal action threats? did the college just give a load of empty promises or somthing about improvements?

As for the mice issue, most of the computers in the IT building are using optical mice now so the crime spree of robbing balls will surely be a thing of the past once the rest of the computers are upgrade, in 2017!

bp_me

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

As for the mice issue, most of the computers in the IT building are using optical mice now so the crime spree of robbing balls will surely be a thing of the past once the rest of the computers are upgrade, in 2017!

I assume you mean me giving out about the mice.......I dont care wether they are optical or not, I just want a mouse with a scroll wheel :mad:

angry_fox

mike65 wrote:

may I suggest writing/e-mailing/ the editors of Waterford Today, Munster Express and News and Star. Oh and Billy McCarthy on WLR FM

Email has been sent in to Billy McCarthy.

MrShadow

The legal action was for the college not having lecturer for a couple of subjects. Threatened them with not providing the course they were contracted to. finally got sorted just after christmas of that year. was a bit of a farce.

bp_me

angry_fox wrote:

Email has been sent in to Billy McCarthy.

Can I suggest you send it to the guy who does Beat talk as well......cant remember his name, but it will be on the BeatFM website.

Rollo Tamasi

bp_me wrote:

Can I suggest you send it to the guy who does Beat talk as well......cant remember his name, but it will be on the BeatFM website.

Will Power isn't it or something?

bp_me

Rollo Tamasi wrote:

Will Power isn't it or something?

There's a Niall Power, but I don't listen to the radio enough to be sure if its him or not.

angry_fox

Got a reply back from deise am. They want me to go on air..... To be honest, ill be useless if i go on air about the subject. U want to on Rollo or will i tell the class rep bout it?

Rollo Tamasi

Ger's the man for that! say it to him tomorrow dude!
I'd say it to a lecturer before hand to thou

Rew

I assume a written complaint has been forwarded to the proper people in the college before u esclated it to the media?

angry_fox

We have not sent a wriiten complaint in. Mainly because it would probly be thrown straight into the bin. We have been promised so much, but nothing has happend. We were even promised a DVD burner, but that never happend. We have two CD Burners in the D01 and they burn at speed x4. Lectures have got on to the college about the place but nothing has been done.

angry_fox

If a letter was not sent into the college authorities and i go (or class rep) and bitch bout the place, they can say they were not informed. (Tanx Cabaal)

Legend_Killer

isnt it their own responsibility to make sure the facilities are in order?

Rew

Legend_Killer wrote:

isnt it their own responsibility to make sure the facilities are in order?

They dont use the facilities so its your responsibility to inform them of probslems.

Put it in writting to head of the course, head of the school and the registrar.

If its in writting it has to be at least filled they cannt just bin it (esp if its CC'd to a few people)

Rollo Tamasi

i'd have to agree with Rew, its a bit nasty if you go behing the college's back and bitch about them and not give them the oppurtunity to explain/give reason or defend themselves against your complaints. Also could you imagine if you appeared on the radio and the next thing the presenter springs a surprise guest(Rikki Lake stlye, ding dong!! there is someone at the door!!! OH My Gosh!!), and its the Head of Science and he hits you with a load of facts and figures about developments and upgrades!! Egg on your Face then Bud!"!

Best to let them know so we are fully aware of the facts, me thinks

angry_fox

I no Rollo, U sign the petition in the D01. Its been carried out by an undeground movement called the D01 Supporters Group. Ill talk to Ger and maybe go to dunphy.

LanceStorm

hahaha brilliant thread!!

for the first 2 years of IT/Comp Apps we had just about every class in D05, couldnt get over that this was the best a college had to offer computing students!!

yeah the leak in the roof is still there, im stealing the bucket when I graduate, just for the memories!! maybe 5 mouseballs left intact in the whole room, just an absolute shambles!!

Only used D01 once and couldnt get much to work, i feel for ye multimedia guys!!

And the situation with stupid classes taking up IT building rooms for f*****g word processing is disgraceful... Only lecturer sound enough to let ya into a room with them on is Dominic Kirby, legend of a man!!

angry_fox

D05 has been cleared out. All the pcs and buckets are gone.