IBB / RTE / Seem to be QoS'd at 512k on a 1Mb Breeze connection - Anyone else?

magicPockets

Downstream 354 Kbps (44.3 KB/sec) 382 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 83 Kbps (10.4 KB/sec) 89 Kbps (inc. overheads)

Outrageous service for a Saturday! :mad:

optiplexgx270

magicPockets wrote:

Downstream 354 Kbps (44.3 KB/sec) 382 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 83 Kbps (10.4 KB/sec) 89 Kbps (inc. overheads)

Outrageous service for a Saturday! :mad:

I WAS getting that (512K) today but now im down to 256k on a 1Mb breeze 3rock

Turner

Are you judging this by your download speeds or by an online speed test.

With an online speed test is get QOS 31%

however I download at 119kb/sec and upload at 114kb/sec on a 1mb up / down line from IBB.

optiplexgx270

no im testing via ftp://ftp.irishbroadband.ie/ the 1Mb iso takes 50sec - 60sec to download and DUMeter reports a dl speed of between 24k-34k

Turner

Ah takes me 12 seconds.

Turner

Im getting 85kb/sec - 119kb/sec on the 10mb file

Id say the connection is unstable.

Download something from ftp.heanet.ie

optiplexgx270

seems to be like this since i called last night cos i had no connectivity at all and the guy was mucking around with my account for 20mins but then it was fine and today i've DL 3.25Gb and UL about the same that was by 10am so it might be in my case cos ive DL/UL a rake of stuff today havent used the connection in the last 4 days is the reason for the big transfers.

optiplexgx270

ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/JAI/1.0.2/i386/jai1_0_2-beta-lib-linux-i386.tar.bz2

ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/JAI/1.0.2/i386/

file: jai1_0_2-beta-lib-linux-i386.tar.bz2

25~30K

file is 2.03Mb and took ~80-90sec

Turner

Ive a total of 5.46gb today and my service is perfect.

C:\>ping www.eircom.net -t

Pinging home.eircom.net [159.134.198.138] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=55
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=55
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=55
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=55
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=55
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=55
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 159.134.198.138:
Packets: Sent = 9, Received = 9, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 37ms, Average = 29ms

Downloads uploads at max capacity.

Turner

optiplexgx270 wrote:

ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/JAI/1.0.2/i386/jai1_0_2-beta-lib-linux-i386.tar.bz2

ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/JAI/1.0.2/i386/

file: jai1_0_2-beta-lib-linux-i386.tar.bz2

25~30K

file is 2.03Mb and took ~80-90sec

Oh that sucks alright.

optiplexgx270

C:\Documents and Settings\>ping www.eircom.net -t

Pinging home.eircom.net [159.134.198.138] with 32 bytes of data

Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=57
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=57
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=57
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=57
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=57
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=57
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=57
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=57
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Reply from 159.134.198.138: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=57

Ping statistics for 159.134.198.138:
Packets: Sent = 17, Received = 13, Lost = 4 (23% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 35ms, Average = 26ms


Done with an idle connection if things are not sorted by tomorrow ill be onto them on monday.

optiplexgx270

what mast you on?

magicPockets

Well...it's Sunday afternoon and there is absolutley no difference whatsoever... :mad:

Results are same with direct downloads...

Downstream 512 Kbps (64.0 KB/sec) 552 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 34 Kbps (4.3 KB/sec) 36 Kbps (inc. overheads)

optiplexgx270

same again today 512k

Doodee

afaik im the same.

Getting about 60 - 70k on a 2 meg connection.

Skud

man service bad today. I didnt manage to ring on friday for example this


Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=2824ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=591ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=197ms TTL=55

pinging boards and that was a good one... download rate is 14 kb/sec steady Man angry phone call first thing. This is the worst its ever been.

Mutant_Fruit

Weekends seem to be the only time i'm not QoS'ed. All day today and yesterday i've been able to max out any time i wanted. Pings still less than 10ms to boards.ie

I'm on the tallaght tower.

magicPockets

...usually it's the same for me too, QoS'd during the working day but evenings and weekends running at full speed....don't understand why this weekend has been fixed at 512k...have to wait to Monday to find out I guess....

mp.

jesus_thats_gre

optiplexgx270 wrote:

ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/JAI/1.0.2/i386/jai1_0_2-beta-lib-linux-i386.tar.bz2

ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ftp.blackdown.org/java-linux/JAI/1.0.2/i386/

file: jai1_0_2-beta-lib-linux-i386.tar.bz2

25~30K

file is 2.03Mb and took ~80-90sec

It burts to 120 when I start the download but quickly settles at 60Kb/sec...

I cannot see how I would be limited as **** all has been downloaded on this connection since it was installed.. Its a shambles really..

I am pretty certain it is the QOS as the ping results below are perfect..

C:\Documents and Settings\>ping www.boards.ie
Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.144.58] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=57
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=57
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=57
Ping statistics for 82.195.144.58:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 12ms, Average = 9ms


The bandwidth is definetly being limited.

Mutant_Fruit

The sign you've been limited is that when you max out your connection your pings to to 2000-3000ms. Like this :mad::

Ping statistics for 82.195.144.58:
Packets: Sent = 21, Received = 21, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1868ms, Maximum = 2559ms, Average = 2090ms
Control-Break

Time to ring tech support again me thinks.

carbsy

I'm on the old 2mb lite and have been QOS'd to 128kbps speeds and lower since last Friday morning, disgrace.

JNive

I think IBB have successfully shot themselves in the foot. Their network was having problems, so instead of fixing them up, and thus maybe stealing customers, they have dont it the other way , and effectively downgraded their service for a large portion of the customer base.

I myself think that this level of throttling is a disgrace to the irish market, some is ok, during actual peak times an whatever, but not day-long / week-long throttlling to 12% capacity lol.

Blaster99

It sounds like some users are definitely being throttled, but I'm not so sure all the problems in this thread are down to that. Don't assume anything.

I would incidently have thought that IBB should communicate to customers that they're about to be throttled and offer alternatives. That's what any other ISP would do.

Vadrefjorde

Would The Wise man or OldTitan please post some explanation as to what's happening. As I posted previously i've been waiting for their service with ages but am starting to get cold feet about signing up with them given the last week of posts about their service

blobert

I'm only getting speeds of 10k a second today and I'm on a 1mb connection with 8-1 Contention. This is the second time this has happened, I rang up about a week ago and they fixed it while I was on the phone.

Why is there no mention of this on their website, or no emails sent out explaining what they are doing?

If I had any other broadband options I would switch.

nadir

i got those crazy bad pings on saturday, like 1000 -> 2000 and the up and download rate went to 10 kb (its a 2Meg line)
atm its about 50 each way.
definate slowdown in performance over the past few days.

are we being punished for the amount of BW we use?

Skud

i dont use much bandwith getting 10 - 15 kbps

Tech support said take down ur firewall which i did and was getting worse pings so i quickly put it back up. Pathetic service today, tech support when I did get through didnt help. Cork office didnt help although an engineer is supposed to ring me back. There is a serious serious problem. Even the routers on a tracert give good ms execpt some spiking and I still get the low download rate and spikey ms when playing games. I got exams to worryabout not this. FFS. Would someone from IBB sort themselves out.

powerhousedan your tip didnt work, although if the engineer rings me I'll make sure he does something.

Kone

:mad: :mad: The service is just not reliable enough! :mad: :mad:

there is no notification of any download/slow periods...

magicPockets

....so I shoot of a quick email to the customer support group ranting and raving at the poor service bla bla bla...I come back to find an email waiting from IBB...surely they haven't actually responsed to me already(!)...I open it to find that it's the monthly invoice...doh!

So at least the invoicing system is working then.... :rolleyes:

carbsy

Their whole network seems to be grinding a halt... :rolleyes:

Skud

yea just got off the phone and he sorted it "Jeff" was his name. It's downloading about 80 kb/sec compared to 10kb/sec 5 mins ago. Keep harassing them.

nadir

yeah, mine is totally dying atm....

15 up 10 down
wtf ????
it was perfect just a few days ago.

PING google.com (216.239.37.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=827 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=849 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=1553 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=243 time=760 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=243 time=888 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=243 time=1477 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=7 ttl=243 time=1562 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=8 ttl=243 time=929 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=9 ttl=243 time=616 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=10 ttl=243 time=813 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=11 ttl=243 time=1223 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=12 ttl=243 time=1746 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=13 ttl=243 time=419 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=15 ttl=243 time=314 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=16 ttl=243 time=545 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=18 ttl=243 time=255 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=19 ttl=243 time=754 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=21 ttl=243 time=88.6 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=22 ttl=243 time=371 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=23 ttl=243 time=358 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=24 ttl=243 time=550 ms

and thats with an mtu of 1000
ffs

who is this jeff person who gives bandwidth
giveth to meh

optiplexgx270

Mutant_Fruit wrote:

The sign you've been limited is that when you max out your connection your pings to to 2000-3000ms. Like this :mad::

Ping statistics for 82.195.144.58:
Packets: Sent = 21, Received = 21, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1868ms, Maximum = 2559ms, Average = 2090ms
Control-Break

Time to ring tech support again me thinks.

anyone get this sorted out yet? :mad:

im on the phone to eircom re something else then IBB here goes my night

optiplexgx270

out of interest why 256K wernt we all getting along on 1Mb connections all day long....

magicPockets

well, I spoke to a technician about an hour or so ago, he took some samples of me downloading between 20 and 30kbytes/sec and advised that he needed to escalate the problem. I asked him if there is any issue with the IBB network, he replied "no the network is just fine"....err....yeah right....

...waiting for a call back....still waiting....

optiplexgx270

nadir

optiplexgx270 wrote:

out of interest why 256K wernt we all getting along on 1Mb connections all day long....

1 Mb was working fine for us here, dont know whats going on.

Skud

my dl speed has now gone down to 37 - 38 kb/sec not 4 hours after it was sorta improved. I might have been qos'd because i was downloading heavily but still i think i was being qos'd already. This really is annoying spent most of day trying to fix it. Still not. theres a prob with the network. My pings are spiky but playable games wise even pinging is grand except one or two fluctuations. Someone got old titans email? I want to send him a mail.

QoS at its best....


Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=21ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=28ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=16ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=21ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=32ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=19ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=20ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=19ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=23ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=17ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=22ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=19ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=21ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=19ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=16ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=29ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=23ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=22ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=22ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=26ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=20ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=20ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=24ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=22ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=64 time=23ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 82.195.144.58:
Packets: Sent = 30, Received = 30, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 16ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 21ms

nadir

mine is totally screwed, its completely unusable for gaming, and downloads are crawling.

CyberGhost

nadir wrote:

yeah, mine is totally dying atm....

15 up 10 down
wtf ????
it was perfect just a few days ago.

PING google.com (216.239.37.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=827 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=849 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=1553 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=4 ttl=243 time=760 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=5 ttl=243 time=888 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=6 ttl=243 time=1477 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=7 ttl=243 time=1562 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=8 ttl=243 time=929 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=9 ttl=243 time=616 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=10 ttl=243 time=813 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=11 ttl=243 time=1223 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=12 ttl=243 time=1746 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=13 ttl=243 time=419 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=15 ttl=243 time=314 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=16 ttl=243 time=545 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=18 ttl=243 time=255 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=19 ttl=243 time=754 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=21 ttl=243 time=88.6 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=22 ttl=243 time=371 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=23 ttl=243 time=358 ms
64 bytes from 216.239.37.99: icmp_seq=24 ttl=243 time=550 ms

and thats with an mtu of 1000
ffs

who is this jeff person who gives bandwidth
giveth to meh

does lowering mtu(or making it optimal) help lower pings?

nadir

CyberGhost wrote:

does lowering mtu(or making it optimal) help lower pings?

yes,
but obviously isnt good for leeching,
its good for gaming.

optiplexgx270

I am currently "maxing" my connection @ an incrediable 15-20kbs and FFS heres my ping to boards.ie

Pinging www.boards.ie [82.195.144.58] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=1536ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=1874ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=1635ms TTL=58
Reply from 82.195.144.58: bytes=32 time=1352ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 82.195.144.58:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1352ms, Maximum = 1874ms, Average = 1599ms

When i called tech support earlier low and behold just as i got talking to someone it shot up to 120kbs but once off the call it fell back to 24kbs

Im Fuin MAD at this stage :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Oh and fyi

Tracing route to www.boards.ie [82.195.144.58]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * 1713 ms 560 ms 3rock-vl-vlan-5.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.33.17]

2 391 ms 128 ms 208 ms rte-et-2-7.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.182]
3 596 ms 1234 ms 735 ms ix-et-1-1.irishbroadband.ie [195.26.12.61]
4 1503 ms 1306 ms 1308 ms 62.231.52.157
5 977 ms 1482 ms 1309 ms suez-inex.hosting365.ie [193.242.111.23]
6 1831 ms 2145 ms 1168 ms 82.195.128.4
7 1279 ms 1234 ms 1593 ms pie.boards.ie [82.195.144.58]

Trace complete.

CyberGhost

nadir wrote:

yes,
but obviously isnt good for leeching,
its good for gaming.

Cool, Thanks for info!

jesus_thats_gre

Mine is perfect again. Got a new laptop so am downloading a load of stuff and am getting 120KB/sec no bother.. Phew thats over with..

Turner

On the churchfield mast here in Cork.

Downloads here are maxed at 119kb/sec Uploads 117kb/sec. Ive been averaging about 2-6 gig per day (mostly uploads)

Pings are grand


C:\>ping cs.irelandcs.com -t

Pinging cs.irelandcs.com [85.159.20.24] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=33ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=55
Reply from 85.159.20.24: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=55

Packets: Sent = 16, Received = 16, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 39ms, Average = 28ms
Control-C
^C
C:\>

optiplexgx270

Your QOS days will come Cheif--- just you wait :evil grin:

nadir

ours is still dodgy, 50 each way.

btw CyberGhost ... is that ... Spriggan in your sig ??

lad12

Anyone recommend getting this?

Skud

how could we atm? Usually it is fine for me. I think with a lot of things its poor atm, mainly the 2 meg updgrade. Depends what you are looking for, if it is downloads then yes. If gaming I wouldnt recommend wireless for it. More ppl would be able to give better feedback.

CyberGhost

nadir wrote:

ours is still dodgy, 50 each way.

btw CyberGhost ... is that ... Spriggan in your sig ??

nope, Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell

nadir

ah yes of course, hehe, I was thinking it was Spriggan, hehe
SPRIGGAN !!! hehe

oh btw bw still crap ::: 50 up 20 down atm