Reclaim The Streets Mayday 2005!

thiscityburns

www.dissenteire.tk

Shrimp

good stuff..

Spacedog

RTS, Feels like summer

adox

Hasnt this already been posted and given a warning?

whiskeyman

"carnival of resistance against the G8!"

Sod that... what about G4?
They're the greater threat!!
Ruining classic as Bohemian Rhapsody and Creep.... what will they target next??

Spacedog

LOL, they're equally evil

whiskeyman

Spacedog wrote:

LOL, they're equally evil

tell me about it....
RTS... Reclaim The Songs!!
Should have a masseeeve speak blasting out all the classic originals around town, as we burn all those awful awful covers.
Then bring back Robocop so he can beat the livin bejesus outta those G4 twats.

Dinxminx

Havent been to one of those before-- somehow I'm always away.... Are they any good?

thiscityburns

yeh, g4 are next after we disband the g8.

Spacedog

Dinxminx wrote:

Havent been to one of those before-- somehow I'm always away.... Are they any good?

There good as long as the guards keep their numbers on.

projectmayhem

whiskeyman wrote:

Then bring back Robocop so he can beat the livin bejesus outta those G4 twats.

that's EXACTLY what rts needs - robocop! we'll see what a real riot is then

almostagassi

There has never been a riot at a reclaim the streets party before. in the past there has been the lawful use of self defece against provocateurs like the aforementioned Robocop.

its been called a riot by sterotyping conservatives who unjustly believe groups of people listening to music in one area = violence

its a party celebrating the reclaiming of public property that is been taken by commercial shops and juggernaught trucks owned by corporations. if u dont own a car then you have no right to use the roads.

whiskeyman

almostagassi wrote:

if u dont own a car then you have no right to use the roads.

yeah u do - if you have a bike.... or use public transport.
And besides.... use the footpath!

kt_hughes

I just don't get this. What's it in aid of? Causing trouble just for the sake of it?? Is there some deep meaningful political statement you're trying to make??? For those of you trying to make a stand against commercialism, your ideas are wasted on those who just want an outlet for aggression. Actually your ideas are just wasted. Causing trouble in the city centre is hardly a good way to go about it. How about trying something constructive for a change?

s8n

well put KT. It's turned into a misguided hippie event with a hidden agenda

RE*AC*TOR

Carnival of resistance against the G8?

I think they are diluting their message by lumbering in the G8 issue with the above mentioned, "its a party celebrating the reclaiming of public property that is been taken by commercial shops and juggernaught trucks owned by corporations. if u dont own a car then you have no right to use the roads."

While I would have a predispostion to sympathy for left-wing causes and protests I don't see this having any real cause or purpose.

motrocco

It's not about causing trouble. It's about having a street party.

Been to the last couple and apart from some riotious police and one or two hardcore whiskey drinking anarks there was no problem. Great night had in various pubs after the demo.

Really has to be seen to believed. And it's free. (well admission is, beer, no)

come along and enjoy, don't mind the scare mongers.

po0k

Enjoy having a shower of scallies causing mischief and distress.

Eoghan-psych

thiscityburns wrote:

www.dissenteire.tk

Can someone please fill me in on who the streets are to be reclaimed *from* and *for*, given that the Irish people own the streets already.

From what I have seen it is nothing more than an excuse to cause trouble.

And before someone jumps on the "you're a conservative blah blah blah" line, I'm not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.

almostagassi

whiskeyman wrote:

yeah u do - if you have a bike.... or use public transport.
And besides.... use the footpath!

that is such a clever reply. you must be top of the class. you must have a master in politics. isnt capalism great? your so smart

i suppose we can eat cake if there is no bread.


what if you dont own a bike and even if you do, cycling on the roads with increased numbe of mcvs is a death trap. the roads cover about 80% of the street while the footpath 20%. isnt it so comfortable trying to walk down o'connell street

and its great in our equal society, that there are as many buses as commercial and private vehicles on the roads.

Eoghan-psych

s8n wrote:

well put KT. It's turned into a misguided hippie event with a hidden agenda

Precisely.

If the farmers can bring vast swathes of the country's road network to a grinding halt to protest *their* concerns, and *no* trouble ensues I think it more than fair to call RTS "misguided" - and that's being charitable.

RE*AC*TOR

Here's one question:

What do the RTS people actaully want?

Ultimately - what is it? What's the endgame goal?

almostagassi

why do people equate a street party with "causing trouble"? stereotyping?

are you giving the dog a bad name?

Eoghan-psych

almostagassi wrote:

why do people equate a street party with "causing trouble"? stereotyping?

are you giving the dog a bad name?

Nope, just looking at what happened the last time the dog sat on the couch.

Street parties don't require baton charges.

almostagassi

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

Here's one question:

What do the RTS people actaully want?

Ultimately - what is it? What's the endgame goal?

For me, and i do not speak for the reclaim the streets at an official level, its about creating awareness of dissent at grass roots level. public resourses and civil liberties are being erroded for the benefit of wealthy minorities and commercial services.

so for one day a year, people of ireland who would not normally be allowed on to public property can enjoy it too.

Eoghan-psych

almostagassi wrote:

For me, and i do not speak for the reclaim the streets at an official level, its about creating awareness of dissent at grass roots level. public resourses and civil liberties are being erroded for the benefit of wealthy minorities and commercial services.

so for one day a year, people of ireland who would not normally be allowed on to public property can enjoy it too.

Dissent from *what*? Awareness of *what*? What public resources or civil liberties are being eroded?

almostagassi

Eoghan-psych wrote:

Nope, just looking at what happened the last time the dog sat on the couch.

Street parties don't require baton charges.

did the protestors in tianamenen square 1989 needed to be shot dead?


and the street party in 2002 did not require a batton charge. only the Gardai were tried with assault and assault causing harm. no partisipants were on trial for public disorder or assault.

there is a prejudice, which has no place in any society that large groups of people playing loud music would cause trouble.

the gardai did not like this so they had whats know as an "agent provocatuer" to stir some trouble. this is an undercover guard that incites and procures other people to attack the guards ie entrapment, and once one or two people attack the guards, that would give the guards reasonable cause to believe there is a likelihood of an immediate riot, which entitles them to use as much force as they think is necessary which is by battons. the guards know that they are answerable to no-one

the media like to sensastionalise the story to get a better audience. and people who were not there end up with what a believe a biosed opinion.

most of the partisipants in the reclaim the streets are university students that represent civil liberties.

RE*AC*TOR

First off - thanks for taking time to answer the question.

You want to create awareness, but to what end? Surely not for people to carry on in their humdrum, worker-bee lives. Obviously some form of socio-political change is your goal - but what exactly is that? Do you know?

Guy:Incognito

almostagassi wrote:

so for one day a year, people of ireland who would not normally be allowed on to public property can enjoy it too.

Just because you decide that on one day of the year you can run around the roads, doesnt make it true, or legal.


I think they should organise a leg of the WRC championship around Town on Mayday.

That'll fix dem hippies.

Guy:Incognito

almostagassi wrote:

did the protestors in tianamenen square 1989 needed to be shot dead?.

Hardly the same thing. Go live in a dictatorship for 20 years, then you might have a reason to protest.

Guy:Incognito

almostagassi wrote:

the gardai did not like this so they had whats know as an "agent provocatuer" to stir some trouble. this is an undercover guard that incites and procures other people to attack the guards ie entrapment, and once one or two people attack the guards, that would give the guards reasonable cause to believe there is a likelihood of an immediate riot, which entitles them to use as much force as they think is necessary which is by battons. the guards know that they are answerable to no-one.

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