Brothers in Arms

KdjaCL

Decent game, plays very well with the squad easy to move them about and control. Very involving storyline wise its tries so hard to be Band of Brothers of the video game world. Does a good job too.

Minor gripes so far iron sights are there as default you can turn on a crosshairs but aiming and shooting is very hard, you swear you hit the target and he pops back up. Very infuriation as every firefight is a mini battle (hard to explain you see when you play it) and teenie weenie gripe , all the screens and videos showed a gorgeous looking game when its actually okish graphics nothing special about them at all. Even on the highest settings.


kdjac

aidan_walsh

KdjaCL

Havent lost a man yet, altho i more worried whether Emma is serious or not!

kdjac

aidan_walsh

KdjaC wrote:

Havent lost a man yet, altho i more worried whether Emma is serious or not!

kdjac

While it would be nice and all if she was, Ethan with a credit card? Hoooo-boy...

Deadwing

KdjaC wrote:

Minor gripes so far iron sights are there as default you can turn on a crosshairs but aiming and shooting is very hard, you swear you hit the target and he pops back up. Very infuriation as every firefight is a mini battle

I think thats supposed to be the point of this game tho, to get you to think like a soldier, not just like 'ill hide behind these crates and nothing can shoot through me' style of gameplay in other games

CyberGhost

they should rename it brothers in hype,

that game is clearly a console game that was made tranformed onto pc, and they didn't bother much with imporoving it

MP = aweful, it's just aweful

SP = got bored after 10 mins of playing, aiming is extremely hard even when crouching, there is no prone, which I needed in some situations, graphics are mediocre, there is no fun in killing like in COD or CSS, when you melee attack the enemy they just "fall down" just try it, you will know what I mean, there is no sound when you bash them, game is slow moving, did I say it is boring? weapons are not that responsive, all in all if you already have COD/UO, don't buy this game, it's a waste of money, now I understand why they lock/deleted/and banned me, whenever I would ask questions like what about MP or DM? they just didn't want to bother, they spent their whole budget on hyping this game.

cregser

Hmm, after HaloPC I've had my doubts about Gearbox Software. The reaction to BiA so far doesn't look too promising (like the trailers did). I think I'll take the advice of some reviewers and wait till this one hits the bargain bin.

I bought Hidden&Dangerous at a bargain a few years ago and happily accepted all it's flaws because of it's price. It was a great game in places but if I paid full wack for it I would have become very frustrated at times.

Dinner

What are the Specs of it though. I couldnt find them on any site.

Ciaran500

Minimum System Requirements:

· 100% Windows® 2000/XP compatible computer system (including compatible 32-bit drivers for DVD drive, video card, sound card and input devices)

· US version of Microsoftâ Windows® 2000/XP operating system

· Intel Pentium® III or AMD Athlon&153;1.0 GHz processor (2.5 GHz Pentium IV or AMD Athlon recommended)

· 512MB RAM (1 GB or more recommended)

· DVD drive

· 3 GB of uncompressed hard disk space for game files, plus 512MB for Windows® swap file.

· DirectX® 9.0c or higher (included on disc)

· 100% DirectX® 8.0 compatible 32MB video card and drivers (64 MB recommended)

· 3-D Hardware Accelerator must support pixel shaders 1.0 or higher*

· 100% DirectX® 8.0 compatible sound card and drivers (EAX recommended)

· 100% Microsoft®-compatible mouse & keyboard

cregser

The minimum PC specifications are as follows: 1ghz processor, 256mb RAM, 32mb DX8 Video card. The console versions require you just to own the console you wish to run BiA on.

http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/index.php?p=support&faq=1#3

Not that I'd trust that after my experience with Gearbox's HaloPC. But from what I've read, the graphics ain't exactly the most demanding.

KdjaCL

This is not a run and gun unstoppable kiling machine game, its damn hard to play.


If you a FPS player who wants medi packs 57 guns in a bum bag this is not the game for you, tactical squad based shooter and not a bad one at that.

Suppress and fire, suppress and fire

kdjac

cregser

KdjaC wrote:

Suppress and fire, suppress and fire

Apparently it's a little too much suppress and fire, suppress and fire and little other tactics.

I do like my games to have good action with tactics and strategy on the side and on the fly. I don't mind slow build up and careful preperation as long as the action is worth it. I like the likes of CoD because it's all about action but punishes you for 'loosing your head' and charging into fortified positions, or blindly around corners etc.

I liked H&D's mid-game strategy map, but I didn't like Rainbow Six's pre-mission plan maps. It felt too far removed from the actual game.

If BiA lived up to everyone's expectations then I would have bought it straight away. But apparently the E3 demo has all the best parts of the game rolled into one level. And there's not enough original content to last the entire game.

I don't know. I still have HL2, FarCry and Doom3 catching up to do. So I won't rush into this either.

CyberGhost

aiming is very annoying, if real aiming was like that, both Allies and Germans would drop their guns and fight with slingshots

it should be easier to aim with a close up aiming, but in this game it's upside down, it's easier when you shot using crosshairs then gun's close up

another thing forgot to add, did you guys try to throw a nade yet? if it had tactics it would allow you to hold a nade for sometime, like in COD, and not throw it away once you click fire button

Deadwing

BiA got quite a good write up in Edge, im looking forward to this tbh, my gf ordered me a copy, so i cant wait to play it when it gets here. I just like thats its a little different, i think alot of people were expecting it to be COD2 or something but its obvioulsy something pretty different. COD is great but tbh its fairly basic run &gun gameplay just wth great bells & whistles on it, what im looking forward to in bia is a bit of realism, none of this 'one man army destroying tanks with a pistol' kind of stuff, even tho that can be fun too

KdjaCL

A lot of COD love here? Its just a rehash of MOHAA with different skins really.

kdjac

Deadwing

KdjaC wrote:

A lot of COD love here? Its just a rehash of MOHAA with different skins really.

kdjac

True, but its done alot better than mohaa, alot more intense, and better sense of being 'in' a battle than mohaa's one man army approach

flogen

anyone tried the xbox version of it yet? was thinking about getting it, especially if the live content is decent

flogen

JacoStanley

I love it. There's something about the visuals that have the right look. The sound is the best thing about it. Even had my dad watching it for a while. I'm a little disapointed that I only got it on Friday and already 3/4 way through it. Haven't tried live yet but it sounds decent aswell.

Pugsley

If you liked CoD you will hate this, I thought CoD SP was fun but highly tedious 1 man army lark, and multiplayer was pants, in the expansion UO, the multi player was still pants, only reason I ever play it on-lien is a few m8s play it, and I purely play it for the craic I have with the peopel I play with, CoD:UO is dire IMO. Wont even bother mentioning MoH, it was just diabolical. BiA is very much about supress the enemy and move your assault team (or yourself) up the flanks and cut em down, if aiming in this was as easy as COD or whatnot, no-one would use their squads, would just be another rehash of MoH (CoD is enough rehashing for one game), if you grab yourself a BAR or a kar98 you can still pop heads off after you steady your aim if the enemy is supressed, or just no-one is shooting at you, as even near misses sod up your aim (good idea imo, if a shot whizzed past your ear or hit what you were hiding behind not 6inch's from your face, you aim wont be rock steady).

I really enjoyed this game tbh, and really look forward to playing it on LAN or whatnot, as it looks like it could be great for 2v2's on LAN when the vocal chord's are goin

However single player is quite short, not exactly sure how many hours of play I got out of it, but I finished it already on hard, last mission is fun, have to be very cheeky as your on your own, very nice change for a final mission rather than just 'omfg theres 300 germans attacking !!11!11!' like in pretty much every MoH and rehash.

If your looking to practice your 'l33t shooting sk1llz', go play a game that requires an aim (that puts CoD out of it...), this isnt about shooting, its about manouvering and cover, have to use terrain very well to stand a chance in most of the fights, and in the missions you get them, use of tanks is also very important, as while they can paste anything you sit infront of them, putting them in the line of sight of a pak20 will make for a very short fight, and panzer infantry can make a fair mess of them too if they get a shot at its rear.

Overall Id give it 8/10, and the main gripes are that you only ever get 2 squads, and that single player is quite short (yet very fun and absorbing).

Dcully

LoL Pug you COD basher
Try playing COD and UO on rifles only servers and see if you need to have an aim lmao.
BIA is a bit too much supress,flank fire imo,got bored too easily.
The best squad based shooter has to be Ghost Recon,BIA is not a patch on it.

zAbbo

flogen wrote:

anyone tried the xbox version of it yet? was thinking about getting it, especially if the live content is decent

flogen

One of the best games on the xbox. I'd imagine the PC version is pants though

Deadwing

bazH wrote:

One of the best games on the xbox. I'd imagine the PC version is pants though

Why?

CyberGhost

yea pc version sucks

one more proof that they didn't bother too much with pc version is that, the game doesn't even support scroll wheel, there is no scroll wheel support lol, you switch weapons with TAB

LegacyUser

That is bull****. I change weapons with my mouse wheel.

j0e

do not buy this game unless u like bs aiming, where no matter what its random as f00k, no matter what u do its only every 3rd shot that hits and where there is no sense of hitboxes ie it takes 3 shots to kill a soilder with whatever rifle no matter where u hit them, and where the gameplay is completely repeative supress flank till ure rite up beside them then shot u do this about 8 times a leve l by level 3 you really get piss of by u retard team who cant hit sh1t,

so to finish do not buy this game, and gearbox quit tbh what I have played of your games condition zero, halo and this fair enough u went for something new which is respectiable where as the other where just rehashed games, but u shouldnt of ripped the ass with this supress bs

/end rant

po0k

Operation Flashpoint 2 tbh

orangerooster

I think its pretty good. Looking to be fairly short though. It is pretty repetitive but I find the gameplay exciting and dont mind the repetition too much. Definitely not for people who were expecting another MOH or CoD, though I like both of those games this is definitely a good thing and works in BIA's favour.

Deadwing

j0e wrote:

do not buy this game unless u like bs aiming, where no matter what its random as f00k, no matter what u do its only every 3rd shot that hits and where there is no sense of hitboxes ie it takes 3 shots to kill a soilder with whatever rifle no matter where u hit them, and where the gameplay is completely repeative supress flank till ure rite up beside them then shot u do this about 8 times a leve l by level 3 you really get piss of by u retard team who cant hit sh1t,

so to finish do not buy this game, and gearbox quit tbh what I have played of your games condition zero, halo and this fair enough u went for something new which is respectiable where as the other where just rehashed games, but u shouldnt of ripped the ass with this supress bs

/end rant

Eh?

evad_lhorg

funniest thing iveheard about this game was when a guy in work looked at the box and says while lookin at the guyy being carried : "who the fcuk let Egon into the war?!"

Pugsley

Everyones arguement against it seems to be 'omfg I cant hit a pin off a wall from 1000 yards!! omfg BS! refund!!11!', talk about missing the point entirely, go play MoH, this isnt the game for you. Or that you end up just supressing and flanking, sure thats easy against AI, theres only so far AI can go,however great their ability to find cover it, another player wont just watch you as you run around them.

LoL Pug you COD basher
Try playing COD and UO on rifles only servers and see if you need to have an aim lmao.
BIA is a bit too much supress,flank fire imo,got bored too easily.
The best squad based shooter has to be Ghost Recon,BIA is not a patch on it.

Use a mosin, win. It isnt hard on rifles only or not, you said dont diss it til you tried it cully, I tried it and didnt think much of it, now your just poking for more excuse's, next one will be 'join a clan' I bet

Ghost Recon is indeed a great game, played it to death on-line, but it isnt really a team based shooter, your team just end up following you around and soak up bullets, as their ability to find cover his hilarious, can finish Ghost Recon no bother without even using your squad at all on hard, all you really NEED them for is so you can get a few rockets which can come in handy, and mission specific satchel charge's, them radar things that make the enemy show up on the map are dead handy too, its more of a stealth game than a team based shooter

Dcully

LOL Pug

CyberGhost

cheesedude wrote:

That is bull****. I change weapons with my mouse wheel.

really? hmm... have to have a look

abccormac

SyxPak wrote:

Operation Flashpoint 2 tbh

You'll be waiting a while.

KdjaCL

Tbh what pugsley said sums this game up perfect, as for shortness the content part will contain new missions in the future as well as best user made mods for Sp and MP.

Also Syxpak when when when when??????



kdjac

pwd

Played it multiplayer (1v1 and 2v2) on xbox.
I thought it was really good.
The difficult aiming is occasionally frustrating, but the overall effect of it is to force you to use tactics to a much greater extent. When you do score kills they are more satisying, simply because they are harder to achieve. It adds to the realism of the game. Catch a player in the open and it is pretty easy to dispatch them.
The premise of the multiplayer level is that one side has to get an object from somehere on the map and bring it somewhere else on the map within a set time. Alternatively you can wipe out the opposition. (There are 8 backup squads for a single player team, or 3 for each player on a 2-player team).
It's more about positioning and misdirection than anything else. The winning side is generally the one that uses their squads most effectively, rather than shoots the most enemies.
I would imagine the controls would be difficult to translate to a mouse and keyboard. It is easy to reposition your squad while moving in the x-box version. I'd imagine that is not as simple on the pc.

LegacyUser

I am enjoying it on the pc. I do not play it every day. I play it every second day for a couple of hours. It is different from the usualy stuff. I miss the fact there is no prone and lean...but i mean it is fine...

TerrorFirmer

Got it on the box there recently, thought its a pretty decent game, aiming is impossible, multiplayer is absolutely appalling bar maybe ONE of the levels which was quite fun, but still a good game!

I think the difficulty in aiming makes it much more tense, and promotes the use of proper tactics rather then mindless blasting. In the one particular muiltiplayer map I'm talking about (Blow up AA guns, 12 bots, 2 players) it felt really realistic and gritty, totally unlike the arcade feel of Medal Of Honor.

Graphics are good though, although some bad character animations, kinda rugged in places. Decent title overall though. Multiplayer levels with 12 bots reminded me somewhat of Day of Defeat

c0y0te

Can't say I was particularly impressed with it so far (as noted below).

http://www.avalon5.com/index.php/archives/28

Coyote

LegacyUser

To be honest, I am just sick of WWII games. I just decided this now. COD 2 looks just as ****ing bent and boring.

Deadwing

c0y0te wrote:

Can't say I was particularly impressed with it so far (as noted below).

http://www.avalon5.com/index.php/archives/28

Coyote

If you can do better, then do it. Im gettin a pain in the swiss roll with all these armchair critics. 'Waa waa XY and Z isnt as i expected waa waa graphics didnt make me have seizure waa AI didnt out think me like gary f*cking kasparov'. Instead of sitting there complaining about it go out and make a better game yourself. What, you cant? Oh right, thought so. Then stfu and go play something you DO enjoy, and stop pissing and moaning to the rest of us. Cause you know what? Not a hell of alot of people give a flying f*ck.

CyberGhost

Deadwing wrote:

If you can do better, then do it. Im gettin a pain in the swiss roll with all these armchair critics. 'Waa waa XY and Z isnt as i expected waa waa graphics didnt make me have seizure waa AI didnt out think me like gary f*cking kasparov'. Instead of sitting there complaining about it go out and make a better game yourself. What, you cant? Oh right, thought so. Then stfu and go play something you DO enjoy, and stop pissing and moaning to the rest of us. Cause you know what? Not a hell of alot of people give a flying f*ck.

Deadwing, I'm not starting an argument with you, but this is a forum and people are entitled to their opinions, forums were created for that

TerrorFirmer

If you can do better, then do it. Im gettin a pain in the swiss roll with all these armchair critics. 'Waa waa XY and Z isnt as i expected waa waa graphics didnt make me have seizure waa AI didnt out think me like gary f*cking kasparov'. Instead of sitting there complaining about it go out and make a better game yourself. What, you cant? Oh right, thought so. Then stfu and go play something you DO enjoy, and stop pissing and moaning to the rest of us. Cause you know what? Not a hell of alot of people give a flying f*ck.

Yeah jesus calm down, are you perhaps suggesting that you have NEVER said "I dont like this/that game?"

Just because you can't do better doesn't mean you cant say you dont like it!

LegacyUser

Deadwing wrote:

If you can do better, then do it. Im gettin a pain in the swiss roll with all these armchair critics. 'Waa waa XY and Z isnt as i expected waa waa graphics didnt make me have seizure waa AI didnt out think me like gary f*cking kasparov'. Instead of sitting there complaining about it go out and make a better game yourself. What, you cant? Oh right, thought so. Then stfu and go play something you DO enjoy, and stop pissing and moaning to the rest of us. Cause you know what? Not a hell of alot of people give a flying f*ck.

Oh shut the **** up you stupid nerd!

Deadwing

cheesedude wrote:

Oh shut the **** up you stupid nerd!

oh, my pride!

*goes to cry in bedroom cause of cheesedudes witty retort*

LegacyUser

Good. While you are in there, ring a friend and find out what message boards are about...

Deadwing

cheesedude wrote:

Good. While you are in there, ring a friend and find out what message boards are about...

LegacyUser

Aren't you just hardcore? I bet your mommy is proud of you.

amp

Cheesedude and Deadwing banned from Games for a week for personal abuse.

By the way Cheesedude, reporting a post does not grant you exemption from charter rules.

Rational discussion of Band of Brothers will now resume.

juno75

PC Version

I was expecting a lot more from the game after all the hype.
Was looking forward to it for a long time and it's not half as good as randy crawford intamated it would be it.
I was expecting a much more tactical non-liniar affar with smart AI.
As it stands its far to much MOH and not enough FWS/H&D as it was built up to be.
The enemy AI is sooo predictable it just kills the excitement.
The designers said you would not be able to rambo it but thats what I did for most of the game.
Replay value is pretty low, Ive played thru on normal and difficult and it was pretty much identical apart from enemy AI being better shots and you taking more damage.
Voice acting and character devolopment , while I could see what they were trying to achive just became annoying.
When leggit finally got mashed it was a relief.

That said -

I thought it had a great 'look' and feel, the squad looked great
I like the attention to dietail on the maps but this was ruined by the fact it was all back drop and you had to go one way most of the time.
The Audio was great -the Tommy gun rocked
The squad controll was good, pity the maps limited what you could do.
The explosions were the best in any game.
The level where you ran through the smoke was great.

Can see my self getting the next one though..

TerrorFirmer

The designers said you would not be able to rambo it but thats what I did for most of the game.

Unless you played the game on easy or with cheats, it is damn near impossible to pull a Rambo on this game....

Regardless, as with most games it's not as good as pre release hype had you believe, but it's still a very good game that I was reasonaly satisfied to pay good money for...

juno75

Some levels you could rambo more than others, but the fact you could do it at all was a bit of a suprise. You cant Rambo in Hidden and Dangerous 2, not one step..

I played Normal and Diff, finished both. I liked the old Movie thing.
Hype is hype but I think the pich was for more intelligent/tactical shooter than it is.

Tactically its bloody obvious what you have to do because you cant do anything else.
Its not a bad game at all, I was just expecting something a bit more meaty.
The production values were top class though.
For the next one - more open maps and less scripted enemy AI would really improve it.
In agrement with you though, worth the sheckels - 7 outta 10