It's Rantin' Time!!!

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 2:05pm #1

****!!!! I was just about to put a deposit on the SG I was looking at, as in, I was going to pick up the phone and call, when I decided I'd check, just to make sure, y'know. The ****ing thing was on hold to some guy called Steve! Who the **** is Steve?! What kind of ****ing name is Steve?! AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! I wants my SG goddammit!!!!! ****!!!!! Damn you world ya big mean bastard!!!!!

Jammer · 18-03-2005 2:09pm

lol

feylya · 18-03-2005 2:25pm

Behold, for I am Steve*

*May not be true

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 2:31pm

*boots feylya in nads* This is seriously pissing me off! I want that guitar, and it was such a great deal and everything! BOLLOCKS!!!!

feylya · 18-03-2005 2:33pm

You're gonna want to change your signature too. Have you your other guitars sold yet? Sure keep an eye on Chris's site and get a better guitar

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 2:38pm

Nah. No bites on the Ibanez yet. I'm trying to get rid of the MG as well. I'm going to get rid of those methinks and see where I go from there. I'll still have the acoustic to widdle away on anyway. :rolleyes:

feylya · 18-03-2005 2:40pm

What amp are you running through at the moment? That should give you about €400 to play with? Interesting.

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 2:47pm

I'm using a Marshall G30RCD. I'm only really using it for cleans, my Big Muff does the rest, so it's grand for the moment.

Actually I should do better than that. I've got the guitar up for 500 and the amp for 80. I'm accepting offers like but I don't want to go too much lower on either than that. I needs the money for a better guitar. Pissed off at the moment. I love the bite from an SG and you just don't get that with any other guitar. I can't afford a special or a standard these days, though there is a chance of some good money in the not-too-distant future if I sell something large and random.

feylya · 18-03-2005 2:52pm

Mmm, money. He has a Epiphone G-400 on the site with a borked truss rod for $125. It's crying out to me to fix it, stick on 12's on it, tune it to C and play some QOTSA!

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 2:58pm

I saw that alright. Or you could be really different, throw on 14's and tune to F, and I mean low F.

I think Kyuss did that at some stage...

What do you think would be a good price for the stuff? I want to get the best I can for them. Damn you Steve!!!!

feylya · 18-03-2005 3:01pm

14's eh? Didn't even know you could get those. Must get the Desert Sessions stuff. Most of QOTSA's stuff comes from there.

Flog the lot of it for €550 in the Buy And Sell tbh.

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 3:09pm

The guitar's already in the Buy and Sell. I might put both in together next week. I think 14's might have to be custom ordered. Damn it. I have enough to have put a deposit on the SG, about 120. That and the money for the RG and the amp brings me to around the 670 mark. Any ideas?

feylya · 18-03-2005 3:10pm

What sort of guitar do you want? Fixed bridge, floyd, set neck, bolt on?

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 3:16pm

I'd be open to most things, though a fixed bridge would be a nice change. What I really want is that strong bite of the SG. As regards neck-build, I'm not too particular, though a set neck would be nicer than the bolt-on I have at the moment. The sound comes first though. I wan that sharp, edgy tone.

feylya · 18-03-2005 3:24pm

Ibanez SZ520

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 3:28pm

Meh. Little too smooth for my liking. I want that edge that only the SG has, and as of now I can't afford an SG, so lets hope I sell something large and random.

feylya · 18-03-2005 3:33pm

What about an ESP Viper?

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 3:37pm

Just doesn't have the same versatility tbh. It looks like I might be seeing a windfall anyway so fingers crossed. An SG will be mine at some point.

feylya · 18-03-2005 3:40pm

Same versitility? Ya wha?

http://www.netzmarkt.de/thomann/thoiw6_esp_ltd_viper_400_fm_black_egitarre_prodinfo.html

Looks just like a more metal SG.

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 3:44pm

The Viper suits metal best, whereas the Gibson fits into every genre, yet still retains its characteristic bite.

feylya · 18-03-2005 3:48pm

Actually, I know a guy selling a Viper 301 with Gibson pickups for about €400. If you're interested, I'll give ya his email.

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 3:57pm

I'll think about that actually. It looks like I might be getting some extra money soon, bringing me over the 1200 mark, which would be quite nice. I'm thinking possibly new bass or bass setup too with a little extra work and money and whatnot. I assume it's an LTD. What kind of specs are on it do you know? And where is it? I'd like to try before I buy, not sure how the Gibson pickups would suit the Viper.

feylya · 18-03-2005 4:00pm

It's a guy in England unfortunately. It's a mahogany body I think.

€1200 eh? Get this

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It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 4:08pm

There's something about that guitar that just... doesn't appeal to me. Whereabouts in England is he? It's handy enough to get over there and I'm just about interested enough in this to give it a look-in. The body wood was the thing I was looking for. Couldn't find anything about it on the ESP site anyways. Want to PM me his e-mail address? I'd definitely give it a look-in if I had a chance anyway.

feylya · 18-03-2005 4:18pm

Eh, can't remember where abouts he is actually. I'll give him a shout later, find out if it's still available and I'll send you his contact details then.

Yeah, there won't be anything on the site. The 301 series of guitars was discontinued.

ESP enthusiasts know the Viper's features: mahogany body in an offset-waist "batwing" shape, with EMG-HZ H-1 pickups, tune-o-matic bridge with stop tailpiece, three-piece mahogany neck set into the body, rosewood fretboard with flag inlays and model name inlaid at 12th fret, Eclipse shaped headstock, and white binding along the neck and headstock.

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 4:35pm

Yeah, might still hold out for the Gibson. Any reviews I've got on the Viper seem disquieting to say the least. I wouldn't be sure enough of its versatility.

feylya · 18-03-2005 4:43pm

Well, what sort of versitility are you looking for? You're going to get a pretty similar sound from a Gibby SG anyway.

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 8:09pm

A Gibson SG seems to fit into every conceivable genre. Maybe it's a stupid prejudice but I just don't think an ESP can do that.

feylya · 18-03-2005 8:16pm

I think you're getting a bit hung up on the names and quite possibly on image. Considering the Viper is a copy of an SG, with the same woods and building techniques, it's got a pretty high chance of sounding somewhat similar to the SG (depending on pickups of course).

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 8:30pm

To be honest you're probably right. I don't know. It'll be a while anyway so I guess I'll see how things go.

feylya · 18-03-2005 8:32pm

Why don't you think about a custom build? Someone like Gerry Hayes (www.hazeguitars.com) or LGM (www.lgmguitars.com)

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 8:38pm

JGM are a bit too far on the metal side for my thinking, but I'm having a look through the Haze website at the moment and it seems pretty damn cool.

feylya · 18-03-2005 8:42pm

TBH.

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 8:53pm

Not the greatest fan of P90's myself but that's what custom is all about really. I could just as easily stick in a couple of nice big humbuckers.

feylya · 18-03-2005 8:55pm

Exactly. What sort of music are you going to be playing on the thing anyway?

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 9:01pm

Pretty much everything. I still need something to cover everything from punk to thrash. I really like the look of the natural finished Les Paul he has there. That with the aggressive tone form an SG and a slightly nicer neck and fret job and David would be one happy boy.

feylya · 18-03-2005 9:12pm

Fat strat tbh

I'm thinking about buying some wood and properly trying to build a neck through ESP M-II copy. Maple neck, alder body. Should cost me about €50 for that. Route it for a dual action truss rod. If that all works out, spend money on the truss rod and fretboard. The apply finish to the guitar. If it all works out, buy hardware for it. Yes, I am crazy

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 9:20pm

Fat Strat just doesn't have the sharpness though. That's its one failing.

Sounds like it'd be an interesting project, and if you do it in increments like that you can't lose a whole lot at once.

I say go for it.

feylya · 18-03-2005 9:24pm

You could always swap out the pickup...

Just pricing woods. €40 each for a rock maple neck blank and 2 pieces of alder plus whatever shipping would be. That's €100 before the fretboard (which is €60)

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 9:29pm

Which isn't too bad, considering what an actual M-II will set you back.

feylya · 18-03-2005 9:32pm

Aye. It'd be close enough to a grand when I'd be finished it.

Wood (body, neck, fretboard) - €160
Hardware (bridge, pickups, knobs, tuners) - €600
Finishing Supplies - €100

Pricey enough. Unless I went the eBay route.

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 9:37pm

It wouldn't be so bad though as you'd be building it up bit by bit as you could afford new materials. It'd still cost much less than a real ESP too.

feylya · 18-03-2005 9:40pm

Aye, that it would. I actually just want to try and build the neck and body as an experiment. Besides, there's nothing like a guitar with POC Custom on the head

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 9:44pm

Yeah, beats the pants off "Hungus"

feylya · 18-03-2005 10:00pm

Most definately. Wonder if ESP will sue me...

Excuse my terrible photoshop skills.

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 10:05pm

I'm going to say... yes, but hey! Any publicity is good publicity, right?

feylya · 18-03-2005 10:10pm

Yeah... I used to actually have that ESP font too. It'd look nice inlayed in mother of pearl but no inlayer am I. If I make this, I'm gonna call it None More Black. Black body, ebony fretboard, black head, black neck, black pickups, black Floyd, black knobs. Mmm. But would I bother with LED's as side dots...

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 10:16pm

Only if they're black!

feylya · 18-03-2005 10:17pm

Crap. There's another flaw in my plan. And I was looking for black fret wire too

It wasn't me! · 18-03-2005 10:22pm

Matte black paint to be honest should do the job. Could go for a really striking inlay too at this point. That'd really stand out well.

feylya · 18-03-2005 10:24pm

Black gloss tbh. Matt looks horrible on guitars imo. A Guitar should be shiny as hell. And no inlays. Unless it's ridiculously ornate, they annoy me.

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