Smart now claim their service is 8Mbit to 4km

Sponge Bob

First punters switched on today too.

All straight from the horses mouth on the Radio today and you can hear the horse himself , Oisín Fannng their MD, in an audio link in this thread Here

McRedmond from Eircom claimed that Eircom will now help you pass the line test .....yeah right He also claimed that the pre-qual has been sort of abolished .....so thats not a real failure then even though it is .

L5

Sponge Bob wrote:

First punters switched on today too.

All straight from the horses mouth on the Radio today and you can hear the horse himself , Oisín Fannng their MD, in an audio link in this thread Here

McRedmond from Eircom claimed that Eircom will now help you pass the line test .....yeah right He also claimed that the pre-qual has been sort of abolished .....so thats not a real failure then even though it is .

:eek: 8mbit

Sponge Bob

hear the horse !

Turner

Now thats broadband.

chorus techy

Hmm, maybe it will be 8mbit, since "four times faster" than 2mb (esats top package) is four times faster

But bloody hell - imagine 8mbit broadband! Nearly 1megabyte per second
Or maybe he meant that the service is capable of having up to 8mbit (but that they won't be giving out 8mbit service for €35)

vibe666

i won't be holding my breath.
funny how they've completely failed to mention this until eircom announced the new bitstream products.

maybe they just forgot to mention it.

i wonder what boards.ie's resident smart employee has to say about it.

Sarsfield

vibe666 wrote:

funny how they've completely failed to mention this until eircom announced the new bitstream products.

And bloody right too! Why should they show all their cards from the outset?

The best strategy is to announce a winning product, force the competition into a rushed response and then trump them. It might even start a race and the real winner will be the consumer!

PiE

They can offer up to ~24mb/s, wouldn't be surprising if they jacked it up to kick Eircom in the nuts again. Though I'm inclined to think that the 8mb/s quote is more from their tests than standard speeds.

iano

It would be nice if Garfield re-appeared to clarify the 8Mbps statements.

Surely this would not be "pimping"?

Sparky

8mb, dont you need ADSL 2 for that or do smart not stop there speed a 2mb, or was that a slip on the new eircom speeds "Smart are 4 times faster" 2mb x 4 = 8mb
I did'nt like that eircom man with his bullsh*t.

chorus techy

Smart IS rolling out ADSL2, aren't they?

Sponge Bob

Sparky's_snips wrote:

8mb, dont you need ADSL 2 for that

Garfield won't bother coming back I'd say

AlienGav

So...

What's the dealeo?

Are they going to be offering an 8mb or what? I hope they do, but it says nothing on their website, or anywhere else.

At the moment tho, I hate the way they're offering a 2mb line and only 128k upload. As was said numerous times before, it's completely unbalanced!

jesus_thats_gre

What happened to Garfield anyway?

GarfieldConnoll

iano wrote:

It would be nice if Garfield re-appeared to clarify the 8Mbps statements.

Surely this would not be "pimping"?

Iano,

The 8Mbps was a line speed test. It's not the service being offered.
We consistently hit 6.5Mbps through today. Upload speeds were just under 1Mb (using technology as currently configured). Other flavours of DSL available for other requirements.
Now happy to have broadband at home (I previously failed the line test).

Garfield.

Draupnir

i think he ate to much lasagne, got fat and became an outcast in a modern society where your popularity is decided by how you look.

L5

He got some abuse from Devore about "pimping" or something. Basically he said Smart/Garfied were taking advantage of boards.

CyberGhost

Sarsfield wrote:

And bloody right too! Why should they show all their cards from the outset?

The best strategy is to announce a winning product, force the competition into a rushed response and then trump them. It might even start a race and the real winner will be the consumer!

Yes! I hope the rivalry continues, the only winners will be us!

L5

GarfieldConnoll wrote:

Iano,

The 8Mbps was a line speed test. It's not the service being offered.
We consistently hit 6.5Mbps through today. Upload speeds were just under 1Mb (using technology as currently configured). Other flavours of DSL available for other requirements.
Now happy to have broadband at home (I previously failed the line test).

Garfield.

:eek: he's back!

Zombrex

GarfieldConnoll wrote:

Iano,

The 8Mbps was a line speed test. It's not the service being offered.
We consistently hit 6.5Mbps through today. Upload speeds were just under 1Mb (using technology as currently configured). Other flavours of DSL available for other requirements.
Now happy to have broadband at home (I previously failed the line test).

Garfield.

So it is a theorectical (sp?) 8Mbps with average speeds of 6Mbps ... is that what the standard Smart broadband product is going to be now, or are you still doing the 2Mbps version and this will cost more? Because if this is the standard version I think I will be kissing Esat and there 2mbps good bye

GarfieldConnoll

L5 wrote:

:eek: he's back!

Had to go and unbundle some exchanges.

Garfield.

Sponge Bob

GarfieldConnoll wrote:

Other flavours of DSL available for other requirements.

Are we testing Bonded Pair ADSL2 then Garfield ?

http://www.aware.com/products/dsl/bonded.htm

Sparky

CyberGhost wrote:

Yes! I hope the rivalry continues, the only winners will be us!

Lets not get too heated, you now what happend to K1 on a previous topic.
Other than that thank you smart for bringing some compitition into the market, if you were never here we would be still looking at 512 for the next 2 years while the other countries laugh at us.

ozmo

GarfieldConnoll wrote:

Had to go and unbundle some exchanges.

Garfield.

Garfield - please please please do Blanch Exchange also. I'll be getting
the 2M Eircom upgrade but would gladly move to smart.

ozmo.

Paul007

GarfieldConnoll wrote:

Had to go and unbundle some exchanges.

Garfield.

Any word on the Santry exchange?

GarfieldConnoll

Sponge Bob wrote:

Are we testing Bonded Pair ADSL2 then Garfield ?

http://www.aware.com/products/dsl/bonded.htm

Nothing as fancy. I'm sure we'll get around to trying that. I'll volunteer my line again ;-)

Sparky

is it true that you have less than 30,000 customers signed up, i was expecting you to have gone past your 100,000.

BTW welcome back, Garfield, did you re-regester ive seen you have only 98 posts

dglancy

I'd second that! Especially since I only make about 4 calls from my landline a month but need to pay a hugh amount in line rental charges.

Surely Blanchardstown (my exchange as-well) would have a big market for broadband as it has such a big catchment area, is a large exchange building for extra gear and has so many IT companies (and hence IT savvy workers), etc in the area.

seamus

GarfieldConnoll wrote:

Nothing as fancy. I'm sure we'll get around to trying that. I'll volunteer my line again ;-)

"First subscriber switched on today". Could that be you by any chance?

Sponge Bob

I coulda sworn the horse said subscriberS Séamus , oh and Garfield ....my telephony q's please .

GarfieldConnoll

Sparky's_snips wrote:

BTW welcome back, Garfield, did you re-regester ive seen you have only 98 posts

Didn't reregister, don't know how many posts I've made, I'm sure if it says 98 posts, that's right.

GarfieldConnoll

Sponge Bob wrote:

I coulda sworn the horse said subscriberS Séamus , oh and Garfield ....my telephony q's please .

Thanks for that. I know the questions are outstanding. We've been busy.
Garfield.

Sparky

Sorry would of thought with all these questions you would of clocked up 100s, but my mistake, anyway what speed to you currently get with your personal service, and do you get it free or at a high reduced price

GarfieldConnoll

Sparky's_snips wrote:

Sorry would of thought with all these questions you would of clocked up 100s, but my mistake, anyway what speed to you currently get with your personal service, and do you get it free or at a high reduced price

I'm running at line speed at present, but that will be amended to one of the standard profiles. How much do I pay? Come on now..... ;-)

Sparky

How much do they pay me, you say LOL

GarfieldConnoll

Sparky's_snips wrote:

How much do they pay me, you say LOL

Fair point, but that's not what I was suggesting. 2MB for €35 and free line rental.....I'm hardly going to complain.

G.

Sponge Bob

My telephony q's ?

Sparky

do you reckon i will be within the first 100,000 if i sign up and if I leave it till later this year what is the approx line rental rate, since eircoms is €22, is the BB €35, only because i read people saying its €11 (is this it after the free line rental)

SachaJ

without trying to rob this topic.

Garfield, since your testing at 6.5Mbps, have you any news on what other products you may offer in addition to the basic broadband package.

i.e. a 4Mbps package etc.

Sparky

Upload speeds were just under 1Mb (using technology as currently configured)

Wow good upload speeds, when do you think eircom are goin to challange this?

GarfieldConnoll

Sponge Bob wrote:

My telephony q's ?

I'll dig the questions out and get to them tomorrow.

Garfield.

Sponge Bob

And when you see him tell the horse never to try to match McRedmond in the lying stakes

€ircon have c.60% population coverage for DSL of whom 20-30% fail the test anyway so its under 50% really .

McRedmond was banging on about 80% population coverage unchallenged . Total Crap !

Sparky

imagine eircom not providing a service to villages with less than 1000 people, thats a form of discrimination, thats like me refusing 10 €100 jobs a week, while hoping to get 1 €1000 job in a week if eircom TRIED to do some work and enabled these towns all the bb customers would add up.

Gone West

yes ireland is a country of smaller towns, and I agree with you that it is a form of "culchie discrimination"

jmcc

AlienGav wrote:

At the moment tho, I hate the way they're offering a 2mb line and only 128k upload. As was said numerous times before, it's completely unbalanced!

And it is called ADSL why? (Clue: Asymmetric DSL)

Regards...jmcc

tuxy

Sparky's_snips wrote:

imagine eircom not providing a service to villages with less than 1000 people, thats a form of discrimination, thats like me refusing 10 €100 jobs a week, while hoping to get 1 €1000 job in a week if eircom TRIED to do some work and enabled these towns all the bb customers would add up.

not a good comparison you do not have to pay to get those jobs

but eircom has to pay for each exchanged enabled
the more remote it is the more it cost to upgrade the exchange
so the exchanges with the least number of people would be the most expensive to upgrade
it would take so long to get their money back (not even make a profit) on thoses exchanges
there is a good chance the company would be sold before that

Blaster99

By the way, Garfield is apparently getting 6Mbps on a line that fails Eircom's pre-qual. Perhaps this tells Smart to not rely on Eircom's test data? (yes I know ADSL2+ is marvellous and all that but I doubt it's so good that 512Kbps doesn't work with RADSL but 6Mbps works with ADSL2+ on the same line)

masterK

Did you hear some of the crap the guy from Eircom was coming out with, he actually said that the reason Eircom was only upgrading speeds now was in his words "Because there has been no demand from the public for higher speed broadband in this country.

He then was saying about how Eircom was a proven product and that all the customers were happy with it. It was interesting to hear the Smart representitive talking about how Eircom are holding up the releasing of customers because they are concerned about procedures for customers looking to reconnect to Eircom in the future.

LFCFan

I'm so sick of €ircon and their lies and stupid ads. The latest one from yer one, stating that she's just found a bargain that can't be matched in regards to her broadband package when it fact they are the most expensive, have the lowest cap and who's trial is one month shorter than everyone else. Of course, because of their massive advertising budget they can convince so many people that they are the ones to use for Broadband. At least Smart are tackling this and are spending a lot on advertising so hopefully it will have the desired effect and make people look at the other options out there.

jor el

Blaster99 wrote:

By the way, Garfield is apparently getting 6Mbps on a line that fails Eircom's pre-qual.

Smart will be doing their own line tests, so they aren't going to rely on Eircom's results, thankfully.

Some people were asking about the Blanchardstown exchange, didn't Garfield mention that that exchange is on the wrong side of the M50 to their fibre network. Hence connecting it would require digging a whole across the M50, which ain't going to happen.

Maybe they could run the line across one of the many many many bridges that cross the M50 at Blanch?

Blaster99

Will they? Garfield said Smart will use Eircom's test data.