ALERT!!! IOFFL + Smart + eircom on Today FM 6.15pm - Send in comments

damien

EDIT:
TodayFM announced IrelandOffline are on too now. That was meant to be a surprise !

Eircom will be on the Last Word at 6.15 tonight talking about Broadband. If
you can tune in, please do so and send your comments to: lastword@todayfm.com

You can also text in your comments to 085 4100 102 , the more comments the
better.

Damien.

dahamsta

I'm curious as to how Eircom would handle their policy of not appearing at the same time as IrelandOffline if an IrelandOffline committee member got on the air. Would they spontaneously combust?

adam /fingers crossed on both fronts

damien

Well, they ruined the surprise. David McRedmond from eircom is on too.

Jorinn

LIve feed on this page, links to pop up window.

http://www.todayfm.com/article.asp?id=15131

Sponge Bob

I'll give 1-10 on that there will be a no show from Eircom

seamus

damien.m wrote:

Well, they ruined the surprise. David McRedmond from eircom is on too.

Chances of a last minute no-show?

^pt^

An ad for eircom broadband on just now

damien

Send in emails and txts !

^pt^

How are they going to squeeze in so many topics before 7pm?

Good luck btw, whoever's going on!

jwt

Delayed for another 10 to 15 minutes

john

damien

Good luck JWT.

seamus

Someone record it. I'm gonna miss it cos I have to head home now

Sarsfield

Same as seamus - can someone put up an mp3 later? I've got to go now.

sinjin_smythe

Hve to wait for news to finish but will be on

viking

Will record it.

Knock 'em dead John!

mike65

You can check it out here http://www.radioireland.ie/lastword/lastword.html
tomorrow if you miss it.

Mike.

cgarvey

McRedmond and Timmons on now

Jorinn

Hmm, oisin fanning said 8mbit available within 4km from smart, wonder when they plan to price that.

sinjin_smythe

That was CRAP ONLY ABOUT 5 MINS LONG

Poz3D

Very short indeed

cgarvey

rip will be along shortly

dahamsta

Well don John, great putdown of McRedmond's usual bullsh*t!

adam

damien

Well done to John for ripping into eircom's percentages bull****.

mike65

Well thats that...one day we'll get a really good oppotunity to demollish eircom, The Last Word is too tightly formatted to be much use for in-depth debate.

Mike.

SantaHoe

I'm surprised the phrase "dragged kicking and screaming" didn't enter the conversation once. :rolleyes:
All this - we're pushing broadband forward shpeel.
No answers, but then I wasn't expecting any... pretty weak interviewing to let the eircom rep waffle away hard questions with marketing drivel.

Blaster99

I don't think it was crap at all. The most interesting [technical] bits were the Smart 8Mbps claim and that Eircom will apparently fix problems to deliver broadband to people who order it, even if the pre-qual fails. That's what we like to hear. Mind you, I know a guy who's going through this process right now and it's not exactly going anywhere, so the jury is still out.

Yer man McRedmond is pretty handy with the ol' spin. Interesting to notice Smart giving out about the LLU process. Not often the competitors make noise about Eircom's practices in public.

Mr_Man

I rang in with a comment challenging McRedmond's claims that they will do all within reason to help a customer get broadband. However no comments were read out,

M.

cgarvey

Rip is here in 16Kbps mp3 (~1.2MB). PM for lower quality formats if you need them.

.cg

viking

cgarvey wrote:

Rip is here in 16Kbps mp3 (~1.2MB). PM for lower quality formats if you need them.

.cg

Arggh, didn't realise you were doing it also. Ah well...

G

shinzon

i dont think anyone meant it was crap in that way, it was way to short for an indepth debate on it, and Irelandoffline only got a look in once during the whole thing

Disappointed in length but not in the content, hmm wonder could people hold mcredmond to the point he made that eircom will do its best to help a person get broadband as it was said on air

Shin

Wish theyd bloody well read some e-mails on air though, gets annoying when you send them and they completely ignore them due to lack of time

seamus

Nice one Cathal.

Short enough, McRedmond got fairly slaughtered though. I liked Oisin Fanning's "balls-out-no-bull****" approach. Claiming on-air that he believed eircom would deliberately try to delay LLU? Nice.

Also, McRedmond saying that "Eircom are scrapping the pre-qual and will give DSL to anyone who wants it"? Can we get this quoted exactly and use it? Next time someone rings eircom sales - "Sorry, you don't pass the pre-qual", "So?".



[Edit: Snap shinzon. How 'bout you ring them up tomorrow and quote him - You are still having trouble getting it?]

damien

Anyone want to do a transcript on what McRedmond said ?

Couch Potato

jaysis your man McRedmond can talk some amount of S***e...

Interesting comments though :

1) 8mb claim from Smart ?

2) Oisin Fanning stating that there were "15,000" signed up and not the 16,000 we all hear in the media ??? (if I heard correctly..)

3) Smart actually blaming Eircon for holding up the roll-out ... brilliant

4) Oisin Fanning stating that the first customers switched on today - any of you guys on boards ?? - please let us know...


There definitely was no way anybody was getting a word in edgeways with McRedmond in full flight ...

jwt

Pretty disappointed with the air time I got, but should get more next time.

Researcher apologised afterwards saying they were caught for time (I think they had allocated more time for the slot but other things ran over).

Still its a first for IOFFL

John

dahamsta

Couch Potato wrote:

jaysis your man McRedmond can talk some amount of S***e...

Film at 11.

Couch Potato

jwt wrote:

Pretty disappointed with the air time I got, but should get more next time.

Researcher apologised afterwards saying they were caught for time (I think they had allocated more time for the slot but other things ran over).

Still its a first for IOFFL

John

Sounded like it .. the counterfeit condoms story got a lot of time ...

Blaster99

My understanding from the guy who's trying to get ADSL (in somewhere as remote as Rathmines no less) is that they're getting an enginer to check it out. Eircom didn't tell him "no can do". We'll see where it leads, though. I incidently know somebody else who got Eircom ADSL a year ago despite failing the pre-qual, but he's not the sort who would take no for an answer...

Dero

Well done John. I especially like the way your point about the number of failing lines brought forth that gem from McRedmond about scrapping the pre-qual and doing whatever they can if someone places a definite order. Does this include distance induced noise limits I wonder... I know I'll be quoting that verbatim when (if) I do place an order.

fatherdougalmag

More interestingly what if you don't want Eircom BB and you fail pre-qual? Will they help you out then?

damien

Part II on Newstalk 106fm on Friday Morning. Same three panelists. More info as it comes to hand.

Sponge Bob

Dero wrote:

Well done John. I especially like the way your point about the number of failing lines brought forth that gem from McRedmond about scrapping the pre-qual and doing whatever they can if someone places a definite order. Does this include distance induced noise limits I wonder... I know I'll be quoting that verbatim when (if) I do place an order.

tell mcredmondd@eircom.ie

kenped

Thanks for the links,, I'm just listning on it!!

GREAT that you have gone this far!! :-)

Serbian

I really wonder what the Smart rep was talking about when he said that people within 4km of the exchange are getting 8Mbps. It doesn't sound like he's saying that's a product, or ever will be.

If I remember correctly, in the thread that Garfield started about a Smart rep willing to answer questions, when he was questioned on contention ratios there was some explanation that said if not all the bandwidth is being used, the users may obtain faster speeds through the redundant bandwidth. This may explain the claim that people are getting 8Mbps.

I'll have to look through the thread to see if I can find where that was mentioned. I could be simply imagining things

Edit: Never mind, it's all explained here.

tuxy

Serbian wrote:

I really wonder what the Smart rep was talking about when he said that people within 4km of the exchange are getting 8Mbps. It doesn't sound like he's saying that's a product, or ever will be.

this is the exact quote

"our first customers are live today and within 4 km of the exchange are getting 8 mbit at the moment"

so he said it like it was the product avilable right now

maxheadroom

tuxy wrote:

so he said it like it was the product avilable right now

No, what he said is that the first people are live now and that they're currently getting 8mit/sec (if within 4km). The first people are still in the testing phase, so they haven't turned on any of their throttling systems. What he's saying is that with their current setup, they can offer up to 8mbit/sec at the flick of a switch.

tuxy

maxheadroom wrote:

No, what he said is that the first people are live now and that they're currently getting 8mit/sec (if within 4km). The first people are still in the testing phase, so they haven't turned on any of their throttling systems. What he's saying is that with their current setup, they can offer up to 8mbit/sec at the flick of a switch.

in the interview for download here he did'nt say that
which interview were you listening to?
listen to the interview from the show yesterday
what i quoted is what he said word for word and was in responce to eircoms rep saying eircom will be offering 1,2,3 and 4 mbit products

damien

We're back on TodayFM at 6pm tonight. JWT will once again be doing us proud.

tuxy

good luck

cgarvey

*sigh* just as well I have unlimited broadband then.. can ye stay off the air please?

(sarcasm alert: red)

Jorinn

Hope they read out emails that were sent in.

mr_angry

Well done so far. I hope IOFFL get more time next time - poor JWT was cut a bit short there. I'd also like to see more emphasis on facts and figures. I don't think Eircom will stand up well to that because it will prevent them from talking the same old "WE'RE the ones bringing broadband" spin for a while.

Any ideas how many times McRedmond said that particular phrase?