man utd versus AC milian

Headshot

thats united out of the league which is Sir Alex fault in my opinan

lets look ahead can we beat AC on their turf

its hard to say if the right line up is in place then yes

howard
gary Rio Wes Henize

Ronaldo Keano scholes Giggs
scholes may
drop in there

Rooney Van

thats my best line up i think united should be attack mined in Milian

did any one see AC Milians match this weekend did they win it did any one get injured

smuckers

Milan will win this, assuming Schevchenko is fit, its going to be even more difficult, he is a class act, that said I think Utd will score.

thejollyrodger

man utd havent a chance

d22ontour

thejollyrodger wrote:

man utd havent a chance

Thats a bit harsh, of course we have a chance,its a small chance but a chance none the less

Chucky the tree

they won 2-1 away to atlanta

PiE

Yea, with a 93rd minute winning goal from Pirlo. They rested some of the big players AFAIK and Shevchenko probably won't be fit. Inzaghi got a run today though, so he'll be on the bench against Utd.

All depends on which Milan side shows up, but usually they're fired up for the big games and perform well. If they do, I can't see Utd troubling them... so I'll go with 2-0 to Milan.

Chucky the tree

i can definitly see milan scoring, and when was the last time they conceded 2 at home?

jesus_thats_gre

To be honest, I can't see United going through. They could maybe pull a draw out of it but a win is unlikely..

PHB

Utd win
I think we didn't do ourselves justice in the last game, and I think that United have it in them to win this, no matter what AC Milan side turns up.
Ball is in our court

Memnoch

considering the lack lusture display United put up against crystal palace today, I think that they will be hard pressed to score two past Milan in their own back yard, but I guess we will have to see.

LegacyUser

My confidence in Man Utd is a good bit lower since they drew with Palace today even though they created chances and on another day could have scored 10 but still...I am going to go with what I said since we lost to Milan and that is a 1 - 2 win for Man Utd.

CrowdedHouse

My heart agrees with Cheesedude,my head is still sickened over yesterday at Palace.

If United score earlyish- the first 20/half hour it might help settle them,if it goes to half time without scoring they might panic..just my feeling

Big Ears

PHB wrote:

Utd win
I think that United have it in them to win this, no matter what AC Milan side turns up.
Ball is in our court

Smemmon , is that you ? .

Milan are 1-0 up , they are playing at home. They have conceaded a rediculously low amount of goals at home this season and IMO have an all round better team than United , I really can't see how the ball is in your court unless you've become a Milan fan .

Headshot

remember the deportivo match

The Muppet

It's a big ask but United know what they have to do to go through and thats when they are at their most dangerous. Yesterdays result will have liitle bearing as a different team will be fielded . It's going to be a tough game but United can beat anyone on their day and thats what they need to do.

Headshot

should Van play im not sure hes ready

he should have scored one or two goals yesterday

PHB

It's because I don't rate AC Milan as highly as you do.
Every time I see them in the San Siro I don't think UTD can't beat them.
I think if UTD show up and play like they can, like Arsenal for example, I don't think Milan can hold out.
Thats why I think the ball is in our court.

Yesterdays result was not lackluster, it was just one of those days where e ball wouldn't go into the net

case n basket

PHB wrote:

It's because I don't rate AC Milan as highly as you do.
Every time I see them in the San Siro I don't think UTD can't beat them.
I think if UTD show up and play like they can, like Arsenal for example, I don't think Milan can hold out.
Thats why I think the ball is in our court.

Yeah I agree, I mean it's not like these Milan boys are any good when /they/ are in full flow... what trophys have they won in recent years (particularily under Ancellotti?).

PHB

They are very good, but I havn't seen them in full flow this year yet.
Infact the last time I saw them in full flow was against Deportivo I think last year when they scored 4 in like 10 mins.

I have however seen Utd in full flow quite a lot recently, so I think its all up to UTD.

fade2black

Fergie did yesterday was he's been doing for the last few seasons and it cost us each time, still never learns his lesson though. The Milan game is the biggest match in a long time and it's going to take a monumental effort up there with Juventus in 99 and Arsenal a few weeks back. For me, as much depends on Alex Ferguson on Tuesday as much as the players. Playing against a team with the defensive experience of Milan we need to be tactically right to stand a chance. I think that the only way we'll have a chance is:

If Milan play as positively as they did last week, potentially letting themselves open for a counter attack.

If Silvestre doesn't play (And never plays again) and the back four that line out, hopefully the one that snoopdog outlined above, play as if their lives depend on it.

If Carroll is not in goal. I don't want to sound harsh but this is a huge night and it could be argued that after his recent mistakes he'll be really wanting to prove himself however, this is just too big a night, his confidence must be at an all time low and the mistakes that he makes are something that I don't think he can just turn off, he's not good enough between the posts unfortunately.

If Giggs cops on and stops playing like he has been for the last few weeks.

If Van get's his sharpness back.

And finally, I think for United to come out of this huge test smiling, they just have to be irresistable on Tuesday night and Milan will have to be overcome by this. We haven't seen this enough recently so I'm hopeful rather than confident.

Nervously looking forward to it all the same.

eirebhoy

Why does Ferguson persist in resting players so much? OK, if they are out of form fair enough but a player is hardly going to be tired over 72 hours after a match. I couldn't care what the managers say, the likes of George Best knows Best. He and so many other had to play week in week out never getting a break for years (he was complaining on the Late Late about this exact subject of players being rested). I played football a few years back and don't see how someone could be tired 3 days after a match. Maybe they'd be a bit tired travelling from Manchester to London to Manchester to Milan but Scholes, Rooney and Ronaldo travelled to London anyway.

KdjaCL

fade2black wrote:

If Silvestre doesn't play (And never plays again)

Seriously WTF?
Hes been there best defender for nearly 3 years now, they have had the best defence in the PL in that time....seriously WTF?


Utd need to go all out attack and try outscore MIlan
Should be fun to watch.

kdjac

Seaneh

KdjaC wrote:

Seriously WTF?
Hes been there best defender for nearly 3 years now, they have had the best defence in the PL in that time....seriously WTF?


Utd need to go all out attack and try outscore MIlan
Should be fun to watch.

kdjac

Even without Sheva Milan have a better attack than Man U.

Kaka > Scholes.

Milan > Man UTD PLC.

d22ontour

If there is a weak link in the back 4 i would say its neville,i would rather brown played right full and made the position his own.Too many times has neville fecked up and cost us in games.I for one am sick of him raising his arm calling offside when he is the one playing them on :mad:

d22ontour

Seaneh wrote:

Even without Sheva Milan have a better attack than Man U.

Kaka > Scholes.

Milan > Man UTD PLC.

Crespo inzaghi kaka > Scholes rooney ruud
Better attack

fade2black

KdjaC wrote:

Seriously WTF?
Hes been there best defender for nearly 3 years now, they have had the best defence in the PL in that time....seriously WTF?


Utd need to go all out attack and try outscore MIlan
Should be fun to watch.

kdjac

I don't know what matches you watch but Silvestre makes more mistakes than any other defender I have ever seen. He is constantly giving the ball away and is a serious liability to the Man Utd team. And he had to cheek to say in a french magazine a few years back that he didnt know why ferguson continued to play Denis Irwin over him. Silvestre for me is the most inconsistant defender to ever put on a man utd shirt. This is only my opinion so don't get your knickers in a twist.

Seaneh

d22ontour wrote:

Crespo inzaghi kaka > Scholes rooney ruud
Better attack

Definatly.

Milan have two striker who have proven that they can score 25+ goals a season in ITALY

Man udt had one striker who mcan score 25+ goals a season in England (just a little bit easier) a striker who has proven he will get sent off 3-4 times a season, give away stoped free kicks, throw black arm bands on the ground and shout at refs.

Milan have THE BEST player in the world in the "support striker" or attacking mid feild posistion, man utd have a 30+ year old who lacks pace and flare... it's simple math really.

Káká + Inzaghi + Crespo = more goals than Ruud + Rooney + Scholes.

If you don't beileve me find out thier goals per season avrages and compare them.
And IF shevchenko makes it back ontime, out avrage goes WAY up...

Besides, Milan have an alround better team.

eirebhoy

d22ontour wrote:

Crespo inzaghi kaka > Scholes rooney ruud
Better attack

Crespo's up there with RVN imo. Inzaghi is certainly as good as Rooney, if not better. OK, Rooney has enormous potential but if Inzaghi was an 18 year old when he was dragging Italy through the qualifiers last year with 6 goals in 3 matches we wouldn't stop talking about him.

Seaneh

eirebhoy wrote:

Crespo's up there with RVN imo. Inzaghi is certainly as good as Rooney, if not better. OK, Rooney has enormous potential but if Inzaghi was an 18 year old when he was dragging Italy through the qualifiers last year with 6 goals in 3 matches we wouldn't stop talking about him.

Thank you.

Crespo when he is fit (as he is now) is one of the best strikers in the world.
Inzaghi is probably THE best poacher in the world.

Last season at chelsea crespo was under played and unfit, it took 3 months of intnesive training and 3times more sessions in Milan-Lab than any other squad player for crespo to be at the right levels to play for milan this season. now that he is fit he is scoreing atleast every other game.

Anyway, wednessday will prove my theory.

Bye bye.

thejollyrodger

United will be doing well to score 1 goal out there. Milan's defence will be ultra tight and they look very formidable upfront. 1-1 draw for Utd might be the best they can hope for.

Big Ears

Seaneh wrote:

Thank you.

Crespo when he is fit (as he is now) is one of the best strikers in the world.
Inzaghi is probably THE best poacher in the world.

Last season at chelsea crespo was under played and unfit, it took 3 months of intnesive training and 3times more sessions in Milan-Lab than any other squad player for crespo to be at the right levels to play for milan this season. now that he is fit he is scoreing atleast every other game.

Anyway, wednessday will prove my theory.

Bye bye.

and didn't he still manage the second highest goals per minute ratio in the Premiership after Henry , that season ?

KdjaCL

Seaneh wrote:

Káká + Inzaghi + Crespo = more goals than Ruud + Rooney + Scholes.



Besides, Milan have an alround better team.

Scholes hits avg 20 goals a season , hit 30 goals 2 season back , not to shabby for a midfielder. Does Kaka get 10 ?

Milan player wants to play for Man utd

And to say its harder to score in italy is incorrect as looking at PL and Serie A tables the avg goals conceded in bottom half of table is 60 and in top half is 29. So still scroing the same amount of goals.

kdjac

PHB

For all these amazing players its funny that the only way Milan scored vs. Utd in the first leg was because of a goal keeping error?

Inzaghi is barely back, and probably won't even start
Shev definally won't start, and might get onto the bench

So its going to be the same line up, that only scored because of a goolkeeping error!

You act like Milan slaughtered us, they didn't

With Van Nist back(top scorer in the CL, with two less goals than the entire AC milan team combined), playing a 4-4-2 eskque system, there is no way whatsoever that anyone can write utd off like people are doing here.
Theres a huge chance that they can turn this around and win it.
Once they score its evens, Utd even have the advantage since the next goal they score counts for 2!

A Dub in Glasgo

I think AC Milan had the better of the 1st leg and I would like to see Man United getting the win they need but I don't think they will.

dceire

Still sick from the Palace result but I still think we can get trough against milan. Its going to be difficult but if things go our way on the night we stand a very good chance. My line up would be:

Howard
G.Nev Rio Silvest Heinz
Ron Keane Schls Giggs
Roo Ruud

Dose anyone know if Garry Neville is fit for the match & is shivencko(don't mind the spelling) back?

Hope & pray for 1 - 2 result!

eyerer

"AC milian"
who are they, and when is someone gonna make a thread about milan?

dirkey_wynne

Well Gary Nev and Louis are both out. Pity.

A Dub in Glasgo

eyerer wrote:

"AC milian"
who are they, and when is someone gonna make a thread about milan?

Milan Associazione Calcio s.p.a

cournioni

All United have to do is win...

And if it comes to penalties I think United will win that also.

zAbbo

Lets hope they get roasted. Id say 3-0 or 3-1 to Milan, the scum might nick a goal though.

cournioni

And by the way... United were 2-0 down to Juve in the Della Alpi in 1999, who thought United would go through then? United are the best team in the world when they have the odds stacked against them, and that will never change.

dirkey_wynne

bazH wrote:

Lets hope they get roasted. Id say 3-0 or 3-1 to Milan, the scum might nick a goal though.

lol, and calling people Scousers is abuse!

LegacyUser

PORNAPSTER wrote:

And by the way... United were 2-0 down to Juve in the Della Alpi in 1999, who thought United would go through then? United are the best team in the world when they have the odds stacked against them, and that will never change.

That is basically why I am going with my 2 - 1 victory to United. As soon as the goal went in, i stuck with it. I really hope I am right. In fact, what odds will i get?

SteM

cheesedude wrote:

That is basically why I am going with my 2 - 1 victory to United. As soon as the goal went in, i stuck with it. I really hope I am right. In fact, what odds will i get?

paddypower.com quotes 11/1 for 1-2 win to United. People forget that they don't need to score 2 in 90 minutes, 1 in 90 minutes and a cleansheet will force ET. If they score an early goal United will have a lot to fight for I think.

I think it'll be a 1-1 draw (5/1 with PP).

Rossonero

IMO, Milan are a better away team. They are prone to fu[k up against teams at home. Remember against Celtic, Celtic dominated the first 20 minutes and scored ( they killed themselves when they started to sit back).
Looks like Sheva won't make it, unless they're doing what Mourinho and Duff did.
Crespo hasn't got a rythm going yet, but still is good poacher,and only needs a sniff.
Pipo "The Glass Man" Inzaghi is just back and is too early, but he has scored on returning from injury in the past.
From the 1st leg, it was clear from kick-off Milan were settled with an excellent one touch passing triangles straight from the off. i think they will play cautiously and defensively, playing a possession game, dangerous against Utd.
It'll be interesting to see if stam starts ahead of Cafu, as Cafu was excellent in 1st leg.

My prediction,

Milan 1-2 Man Utd
Kaka 60'+ VN 13'
Keane 40'

But hopefully I'm wrong, like last leg.FORZA MILAN!

jank

United are the best team in the world when they have the odds stacked against them, and that will never change

Why u always look to the past? That was a long 6 years ago and if u think that they have even have half of the quality now as back then then im afraid ur in for a big big shock tommorrow night

Milan to win the game and win the tie

Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes

BaZmO*

I think the most important thing tomorrow night is that Utd. have to attack and that's something that they are exceptional at. And it means that Fergie won't instruct the team to sit back and invite the pressure. Only worry with Utd. going all out attack is getting hit on the counter attack of course, but hey that's football.

2-0 to Utd.

B.

SteM

Why u always look to the past? That was a long 6 years ago and if u think that they have even have half of the quality now as back then then im afraid ur in for a big big shock tommorrow night

Ferguson's disagreeing with you jank

“I think the team is better now than the team in 1999 in terms of basic ability. What we don’t know yet is the true strength of younger players like Wayne Rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo.”

You'd expect him to sat that though wouldn't you. I wouldn't write United off just yet, we'll know soon enough though. As for always looking to the past, I always find it's better than trying to predict the future.

cournioni

jank wrote:

Why u always look to the past? That was a long 6 years ago and if u think that they have even have half of the quality now as back then then im afraid ur in for a big big shock tommorrow night

Milan to win the game and win the tie

Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes

It has never been any different for United, I know I am a United supporter and they nearly give me heart attacks sometimes with all of the ups and downs. I was merely using 1999 as an example. How about Everton last year 3-0 down and we end up winning 4-3? Spurs in 2002, 3-0 down and end up winning 5-3. And Arsenal this season, 2-1 down at Highbury at half time we end up winning 4-2.

The truth is in writing there. Your so called "truth" hasn't happened yet...

jank

As for always looking to the past, I always find it's better than trying to predict the future.

Spoken like a true liverpool fan

jank

Your so called "truth" hasn't happened yet

Now what truth is that now??