Chili Peppers New Album

chilipop

Hi does anyone know if the chili's are making a new album, when will it be out
Can anyone help!

Redegg

i'd say late 2006. and they will play the point december 2006.

upmeath

the point? they're money-grabbers, they'll never do a show in ireland to less than 100,000 again. look at the last three summers:
Lansdowne Road, June 2002, 40,000
Slane Castle, August 2003, 80,000
Phoenix Park, June 2004, 120,000
Where next? The Curragh to 500,000?

CHILIS NEED YOUR MONEY!!!! MOO HAW HAW HAW!!! ALL YOUR MONEY!!!

funky penguin

Hmmm, as much as i would kill to see them in the point, upmeath is right. They've out grown that venue.

A man can dream though....

Maybe there's something on their website. Its www.redhotchilipeppers.com surprisingly enough.

upmeath

funky penguin wrote:

They've out grown that venue.

they have, or their greed has. i swear, i went for the last three years, sucker every time. no crowd interaction, same old "we lav i-ur-lend" from flea followed by "i'd lav to live here. if only it didnt rain so mach" from anthony. fair enough, chad did we will rock you and sunday bloody sunday drum tributes, but they were almost the only times the band actually stirred the crowd. nobody needs to hear john frusciante whining diana ross or whitney houston or mariah carey into the microphone, only to leave the stage, overcome with emotion. and who gives a **** if flea can play the bugle.
that crap only works on the continent where they dont understand english!

dimerocks

you forgot to mention that they a **** too

Oeneus

Red Hot Chilli Peppers I have to say, are great, except for Anthony.
John Frusciante has grown on me a lot lately. I think he's great.
Flea, coolest bass player ever. And Chad, definately one of the worlds best drummers in my books.

fade2black

Greed? Maybe they just want to please as many fans as possible and not leave people scavaging the country for tickets like a U2 gig. Just a thought.

FX Meister

They suck ass through a straw these days.

fade2black

FX Meister wrote:

They suck ass through a straw these days.

Bollox

FX Meister

Sorry mate but it's true. When did you start listening to them? Calafornication era perhaps? Your comment about pleasing fans by playing big venues shows you don't know what you are talking about.

fade2black

Haha, you have absolutely no idea. I've got every single RHCP album they've every released as well as a ton of bootlegs.
From "The Red Hot Chili Peppers" to "By the Way"

I respect your opinion but don't tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about just because I chose to support the band.

FX Meister

Ok, so you hopped on around calafornication and then bought the back catalogue, you're super. A really nice pair of chaps came up to me and me bird at the Phoenix Park gig, total scumbags from Clondalkin, rolled a few numbers and snorted a load of coke off a two euro coin. I'm sure they really love the chilli's music and that's why they were there. If you want to enjoy a band playing their music live gigs this big are not the place for it. It's money first and music second with them now, and they can't produce good music now, it's just bland crap that pales when compared to their older stuff.

fade2black

You love the sound of your own voice don't you? Sorry you're right and everyone else is wrong. My apologies.

FX Meister

fade2black wrote:

You love the sound of your own voice don't you? Sorry you're right and everyone else is wrong. My apologies.

You are the weakest link, GOODBYE

chilipop

fade2black wrote:

You love the sound of your own voice don't you? Sorry you're right and everyone else is wrong. My apologies.

Couldnt agree more

Nea

I dont think they have sold out. They are still making really good albums. Since reading Kiedis' bio its a wonder they are still on the go,he is such a selfsh dick. I thought they were crap at Landsdowne,ok at Slane (ticket was purchased for the Queens tho) but I really enjoyed them at the Point with Dave Navarro. There was no way in hell I was buying a ticket to see them in the park. I cant ever see them playing a small venue again not until their popularity dies down anyway.

funky penguin

FX Meister wrote:

Ok, so you hopped on around calafornication and then bought the back catalogue, you're super.

So what if he started to like them around Californication? I did. I only first HEARD of the red hot chili peppers when they released it thanks to lack of good music on irish radios and no cable as a wee young lad.

The point is we like them now, and because of Californication, we like their earlier stuff.

eoin5

Heh, Anthony is great: Long-Dong in the Summertime.

lolli

Anthony Kiedis is the finest thing on this planet mmmmmm

fade2black

Just to point it out again, I've been a Chili peppers fan since 1992. They are a very consistent band considering the various hurdles that they have encountered since their begining.

Blisterman

I wish the played stuff from their first 4 albums in concert. That stuff's their best. It really grows on you.

And yes, I only first heard of them with Under the Bridge.

FX Meister

chilipop wrote:

Couldnt agree more

What? you really think so? What's that sound? Oh yes it's me talking again, it sounds soooooo good

chilipop

FX Meister wrote:

What? you really think so? What's that sound? Oh yes it's me talking again, it sounds soooooo good

DO you have some sort of problem with me, the Starter of THIS Thread?

curtains

I love the chili peppers, i think they have three excellent musicians (four if you count hillel). While BSSM and Freaky Styley are my favourite albums I think Californication is brilliant album, the guitar playing is excellent, not being ruled by technique but by the music itself. Speaking of which, John Frusciante is one of the greatest msuicians alive today.

By the sounds of it the next rhcp album will be a big departure for them, it's apparently kind of rock-ish.

Karl Hungus

FX Meister, you forgot take your pills today.

Chilipop, ignore him.

FX Meister

chilipop: Do you have a problem with me

No I have no problem with you. Someone said I like the sound of my own voice and you agreed. I just replied to your post. the Chilli's don't make music as good as they used to and that's a fact. Anyone that can't see it just doesn't know that much about music. And just to point out, I've been a fan since 1986.
And just to point out, I've been a fan since 1986
And just to point out, I've been a fan since 1986

FX Meister

Karl Hungus wrote:

FX Meister, you forgot take your pills today.

Chilipop, ignore him.

Nope, I had my multi vitamin washed down with an actimel this morning. But I promise to relax more around here, by the way (pun intended). Ahhhh the sweet sound of my voice.

Ciaran500

FX Meister wrote:

the Chilli's don't make music as good as they used to and that's a fact. Anyone that can't see it just doesn't know that much about music.

No anyone who "can't see this" just has a different opinion to you. Live with it and stop being a dick. :rolleyes:

FX Meister

Ok, I'll agree with you ciaran but their opinion is worthless. I'm off to listen to Richie Kavanagh, don't slag him or his music, it's my opinion.

upmeath

despite being just 17, ive had a knowledge and appreciation of the chilis' existence since around 93/94. my father is a record shop owner and i grew up listening to breaking the girl, under the bridge and give it away, with the clash and sex pistols firm favourites at home too. first of all, being from california doesnt give you the right to think you own the world, if you do think that you have an inbred texan to compete with. there's so much room in the music market for a rebellious voice at the minute, a void remains post-ratm and commercial machines like the chilis use their voice to express what? aeroplane was the beginning of a downward slide for the chilis. everything ever since has been meaningless lyrically, mediocre in light of their early thrash/punk/funk fusion and they put no effort into entertaining.
i was at slane. dave grohl is a character, possibly the most humourous man in rock music. josh homme and nick olivieri also entertained, hard hitting rock with feeling and meaning. metallica04 was the greatest show ive ever been to. crowd interaction taken to the cleaners. you felt a part of the action. im sorry kiedis but when you cross the atlantic you're not competing for trl chart places or record sales, they only come after you entertain. the irish public does not need four train wrecks, ghosts of previous musical heroes, bopping about with flashing lights for 60 euro or whatever it was. skangers and skobies need that. the irish rock fan wants something explosive, something monumental, memorable, touching and interactive. paul mccartney, foo fighters, queens of the stone age, metallica, these are the kind of people the chilis should look up to instead of being warner's puppet

FX Meister

You said it all there upmeath. Prepare to be told you're wrong though

funky penguin

upmeath wrote:

despite being just 17, ive had a knowledge and appreciation of the chilis' existence since around 93/94. my father is a record shop owner and i grew up listening to breaking the girl, under the bridge and give it away, with the clash and sex pistols firm favourites at home too. first of all, being from california doesnt give you the right to think you own the world, if you do think that you have an inbred texan to compete with. there's so much room in the music market for a rebellious voice at the minute, a void remains post-ratm and commercial machines like the chilis use their voice to express what? aeroplane was the beginning of a downward slide for the chilis. everything ever since has been meaningless lyrically, mediocre in light of their early thrash/punk/funk fusion and they put no effort into entertaining.

I agree with the entertaining part, cos the set list for Landsdown, slane and phoenix park was pretty much identical.

However, Chilis never said that they were gonna be the voice for the nation. They never claimed to be the band to listen to if you hate Bush. They have always maintained that they are doing this purely for the reason that they love doing it. And no doubt they love getting paid for it aswell.

I can understand you being disappionted if your looking for the new Rage, cos the chili's certainly aren't.

I also dont think his lyrics have declined, in fact I think "Otherside" is a far cry from the likes of "Party on your Pu**y" (dont get me wrong, i think they are both great songs.) But then again, you could prefer the latter, of course, if its what your after.

upmeath

few real long-term chilis fans would argue with this opinion. i've discussed it with them. im not saying that they're about rebellion or any uprising, im just saying we need something new there and they have the recognition to be it. they're afraid to be different now that warner have dissipated the energy they once had as funkmeisters. true, otherside is a song with feeling, but who wants to know about flying away on a zephyr, painting your nails or being addicted to the shindig. anthony wants to be a rapper, and funny enough every other rapper in LA seems to have a genuine message, not just a Junior Cert English student's approach to writing poetry (ie. get any two words that rhyme, stick a few more non-sensical words in between and bam! you have a verse!)

dimerocks

ill just say one thing.
universally speaking probably the most monotonous 3 or 4 minutes in history, it sounds like a broken record....like a broken record....like a broken record.....and so forth

funky penguin

upmeath wrote:

few real long-term chilis fans would argue with this opinion. i've discussed it with them. im not saying that they're about rebellion or any uprising, im just saying we need something new there and they have the recognition to be it. they're afraid to be different now that warner have dissipated the energy they once had as funkmeisters. true, otherside is a song with feeling, but who wants to know about flying away on a zephyr, painting your nails or being addicted to the shindig. anthony wants to be a rapper, and funny enough every other rapper in LA seems to have a genuine message, not just a Junior Cert English student's approach to writing poetry (ie. get any two words that rhyme, stick a few more non-sensical words in between and bam! you have a verse!)

Thats an interesting point about warners fizzling out their funkiness.
It could very well be true, but they have always said (john moreso than any) that they have changed into a more mellow on purpose, the reson being they dont want to grow old and stale.

I think its a good idea, as they wouldn't be as famous as they are now if they had continued with albums like Uplift or Mothers Milk.

But, in the long run, end of the day, when push comes to shove, and any other relevant cliche, I do prefer their early stuff. I wish they played more of it live, and had more funk on their new albums. Pitty.

curtains

upmeath wrote:

the irish rock fan wants something explosive, something monumental, memorable, touching and interactive.

but when they actually get it they usually throw it back in the artists faces(hint hint the mars volta at witness).

btw i agree with a lot of what you say but i don't know how you can use 'the chili peppers... four trian wrecks on stage' in an argument and then mention metallica.

now if only john frusciante would come and play here, someone who really looks his audience in the eye....

funky penguin

Didn't he say he was never gonna go on tour with his solo material? Such a pitty. It would be nice if the chilis maybe played one of his songs live once in a while.

Blisterman

How does he have any time? How many albums did he make last year on top of touring with the peppers?

curtains

Seven.

But he siad he will tour with Josh Klinghoffer after the next chili peppers tour. He has toured before and regularly plays in Los Angeles at the 'Performance' shows.

retsamsdraob

Someone told me they were going to have loads of guest starts on new album? - disgusted

upmeath

yeah but metallica arent a commercial machine, never will be. chilis were hijacked by warner because they had a sad story of drug abuse, death, and a bassist who knew how to slap. their shows are comparable to an mtv european music awards ceremony- all glitzy and clean, but of **** all relevance to the concert goer, hollow and meaningless. money-generating too. true, metallica have a sad story too, with cliff's death and james' addictions, but i cant see how anyone has ever told them to go out and make them money, or how their music has been readjusted to appeal to more people. it is true that since the black album the material has become allthemore drop-d barre-chord nu-metal, but they're still churning out stuff that has feeling, meaning, and a general badass aura about it that's been in their blood since day one. when james hetfield shouted "dublin, metallica is with you, are you with metallica?" last june in the rds, it made the hairs on the back of your neck stand up because they actually bring something to a stage, not just a hullabaloo, brouhaha and flashy lights.

Shank

FX Meister wrote:

Ok, so you hopped on around calafornication and then bought the back catalogue, you're super. A really nice pair of chaps came up to me and me bird at the Phoenix Park gig, total scumbags from Clondalkin, rolled a few numbers and snorted a load of coke off a two euro coin. I'm sure they really love the chilli's music and that's why they were there. If you want to enjoy a band playing their music live gigs this big are not the place for it. It's money first and music second with them now, and they can't produce good music now, it's just bland crap that pales when compared to their older stuff.

For what it's worth they suck in small venues aswell, saw them in the sfx in 92, what a bunch of dicks, boring and pasionless are two words that come to mind and I was a huge fan then. Thank god for the rollins band doing an incredible set before them.

funky penguin

upmeath wrote:

yeah but metallica arent a commercial machine, never will be. chilis were hijacked by warner because they had a sad story of drug abuse, death, and a bassist who knew how to slap................... When james hetfield shouted "dublin, metallica is with you, are you with metallica?" last june in the rds, it made the hairs on the back of your neck stand up because they actually bring something to a stage, not just a hullabaloo, brouhaha and flashy lights.

Im sorry, but im gonna have to jump on this metallica arent a commercial machine thing: Cant you buy Action Figures of the band?

Plus, don't you think that Metallica says that to every city they visit?

Warner wouldn't hijack the Chili's because they have a history of drugs and guitarists dying (if anything, this would scare a company away). They made them an offer cause they saw a band that they could market and make money from. The same for EVERY other band that has been signed to a record company. Even Metallica.

As for the performance end, I've never seen the chilis indoor, but I liked what I saw at Slane. They improvised at least once on every song, and I always smile when I see Flea hop around the stage. A 40 year old man doing that for every song on the set, and I know I couldnt do it for one.

Dr. Loon

upmeath wrote:

yeah but metallica arent a commercial machine, never will be.

Ah ha ha ha ha HAHAHA hahahahahah HAHAHAHA hahahahaha!!!


Sorry.

upmeath

Shank wrote:

saw them in the sfx in 92

I was in high infants then, you don't suppose the chilis have become even more greedy since then, do you?

funky penguin wrote:

I liked what I saw at Slane. They improvised at least once on every song

Great, but I think this thread is about how they've replaced showmanship and song quality with a numbers game where they try to fill as big a field with as many irish punters as possible. I suppose you're referring to John. There is nothing too special about his musicianship, infact when he does do those improvised solos live, to a trained ear they sound **** because he doesnt hold the key of the song, he just goes pulling all these hendrix orgasm faces and bending the 17th fret on e. gob****e.

funky penguin

upmeath wrote:

Great, but I think this thread is about how they've replaced showmanship and song quality with a numbers game where they try to fill as big a field with as many irish punters as possible. I suppose you're referring to John. There is nothing too special about his musicianship, infact when he does do those improvised solos live, to a trained ear they sound **** because he doesnt hold the key of the song, he just goes pulling all these hendrix orgasm faces and bending the 17th fret on e. gob****e.

No, I was thinking more along the lines of flea.

And are you saying that one must be properly trained in music in order to appretiate it?

Who layed down the rules that every note played must be played in synch with the songs key signature?

Oh, and this thread was actually about the chilis new album (which surpried me), so I think we are both guilty of making this thread run off topic. Perhaps we should agree to disagree?

Roar

HMMM...

bit of a chilis backlash eh?

so they found a bigger audience... big whoop... fair play to em is what i say.. from the sounds of certain people here you'd swear the peppers only made albums for them..

if you dont like the new albums stop listening to em... if you dont like them playing phoenix park stop going...

for the record, i got into the chilis bout 94-95, after hearing sikamikaniko on the waynes world soundtrack.. i then bought one hot minute and built up the catalogue from there, my favourite albums being blood sugar and freaky styley, the only chilis albums i can listen to the whole way through..

i dont really like the newer stuff, but i still give it a listen.. live in hyde park i've listend to maybe twice, it's by far the least played chilis album i listen to according to my ipod stats..

curtains

I was at Slane '03, thought it was a magnificent show. Regarding John Frusciante's 'bending of strings:

There is nothing too special about his musicianship, infact when he does do those improvised solos live, to a trained ear they sound **** because he doesnt hold the key of the song, he just goes pulling all these hendrix orgasm faces and bending the 17th fret on e. gob****e.

If you really studied what he is doing you'd ntoice that what he often does is solo in a pentatonic scale and use bends to attain notes outside that scale but which still sound in tune with it.

To the person who was underwhelmed by them in 1992: I could guess why and I bet you could too.

I'm not the biggest fan of their recent stuff however I don't think they've 'sold out' in any way.

Apparently John frusciante has done nothing except practise guitar all day long for the last few months. If you ask me that bodes well for the new rhcp album (which btw is in the last days of recording).

the cat

I LOVE the chili peppers!! john frusciantes solo stuff kicks ass!!

upmeath

funky penguin wrote:

No, I was thinking more along the lines of flea.

And are you saying that one must be properly trained in music in order to appretiate it?

Who layed down the rules that every note played must be played in synch with the songs key signature?

flea's their only asset and still he's terribly irritating. a good bass player none the less. im not saying you need a trained ear to appreciate it, im saying having a trained ear takes from it. you notice the flaws in his improvised solos if you play guitar yourself, or piano, or bass or anything for that matter.
the "rule" you refer to above is governed by physics and a simple idea called harmonics. have someone hold the note e for you for a while, and you go hit random keys on a piano. you'll notice that only certain notes actually fit with the e, some sound great, others create mere cacophony. im surprised john frusciante has gone so far in music without taking a leaf out of the books of hendrix musically, or any great guitarist for that matter, without knowing that much.