Ban from politics extended unfairly.

I am MAN

Hey,

I was banned from politics last Wednesday and am supposed to have it removed tomorrow which was fine - I agree with why I was banned. Gandalf asked me to remind him when the ban was done with so I did so then I got a reply saying he has decided to not remove the ban because he doesnt like my general attitude.

I'm a reader of politics and I very rarely post.

Can this be resolved?.

Mark.

Talliesin

I am MAN wrote:

I'm a reader of politics and I very rarely post.

Log off.

I am MAN

Talliesin wrote:

Log off.

That is a roundabout way of doing things, I should not have to inconvenience myself.

Giblet

Maybe it is fair, because of your general attitude. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT!?

I am MAN

Giblet wrote:

Maybe it is fair, because of your general attitude. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT!?

I dont see a problem with my attitude, everyone has opinions.

ecksor

Post up a copy of the PM that you sent to gandalf (or just forward it to me if you don't want to post it).

gandalf

OK let me be more precise for you, you are abusive towards other posters.

I have seen examples of that in threads in after hours & PI when I browsed there over the past week. Therefore based on the only contribution I remember you making to politics, the reason for your original ban, your attitude in the PM's exchanged after the ban including the smart arse comment and your contributions to other forums on here I am well within my rights to exclude you from Politics as a potential troublemaker.

GuanYin

I think your attitude sucks and I'm glad you're not in there.

In fact, I'm revelling in the fact

I am MAN

Dont have copy of PM, I clear inbox regularly.

Just leave it so, Im not going to carry out a lenghtly thread over this because judging by your reply it wont go anywhere.

I have never been banned from a thread before last week and it is very easy for you to pick out those and to judge me on but looking a bit further back would be too much effort I would imagine, I've made solid and good contributions to threads for months and months.


Mark.

ecksor

Well, the PM I was looking for wouldn't have been in your inbox, it would have been in your sent items.

gandalf

ecksor sending all relevant PM's to you along with examples of this guys attitude. I have enough muppets on Politics without this guy.

I am MAN

gandalf wrote:

ecksor sending all relevant PM's to you along with examples of this guys attitude. I have enough muppets on Politics without this guy.

Dont refer to me as a muppet because you know nothing about me other than what other mods have made you aware of over the last week. Keep your ban in place, I could not be bothered to argue it with you to be honest. I still disagree with your decision though.

I am MAN

ecksor wrote:

Well, the PM I was looking for wouldn't have been in your inbox, it would have been in your sent items.

I havent got the requested ones anymore.

Im guessing it was the one where I askd him how much he got paid to moderate the forum. Light hearted humour(my sense of humour anyway).

Mercury_Tilt

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ecksor

I am MAN wrote:

Im guessing it was the one where I askd him how much he got paid to moderate the forum. Light hearted humour(my sense of humour anyway).

Ah, was that what that was? I was looking at it just now thinking "wtf is he trying to say here?"

I don't see any humour in it myself (I bet gandalf didn't either), but each to their own.

I am MAN

Pretty bad attempt alright.

So what is the closure on this?

I want to delete thread before going to bed because by the time I wake up tomorrow and log on god knows what it might have evolved into when others wake up.

Talliesin

I am MAN wrote:

I should not have to inconvenience myself.

"Should" applies only to the directors of Boards Ltd. The rest of us are here on their say so.

Now sure, they wouldn't have much of a site if they took some of the actions that allows for, but the fact remains that they are the only people here with rights. There is no "should".

ecksor

The closure is that while I think that banning you based on what you did on other forums is verrry iffy, you haven't done yourself any favours by your PM conversation. After all, you were banned for trying to have a poke at people personally and your reaction was to have a poke at gandalf.

What's wrong with the thread evolving? If you didn't want others to comment then you picked the wrong forum to post on.

I am MAN

ecksor wrote:

The closure is that while I think that banning you based on what you did on other forums is verrry iffy, you haven't done yourself any favours by your PM conversation. After all, you were banned for trying to have a poke at people personally and your reaction was to have a poke at gandalf.

What's wrong with the thread evolving? If you didn't want others to comment then you picked the wrong forum to post on.

Well what will other peoples comments achieve? It is you, other admins and Gandalf who decide plus you have all of the relevant information.

Your swaying towards the initial decision which is understandable but this ban extension, how long ? this is all I want to know.

RuggieBear

I am MAN wrote:

Well what will other peoples comments achieve? It is you, other admins and Gandalf who decide plus you have all of the relevant information.

Your swaying towards the initial decision which is understandable but this ban extension, how long ? this is all I want to know.

That makes sense to me....afterall tis the admins who make the ultimate decisions

Mercury_Tilt

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I am MAN

Mercury_Tilt wrote:

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The only reason I posted here was because gandalf told me via PM if I had a problem with the decison I should to go sysem -> feedback.

Mercury_Tilt

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I am MAN

Mercury_Tilt wrote:

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Well the relevant notice has been taken so I will leave it be but will remember if a similar situation happens again.

Mercury_Tilt

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bounty

my opinion pendulum has swung towards I am MAN's side on this one, unfairly threated i say

Mercury_Tilt

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A Dub in Glasgo

I have not seen 'I am MAN' personal digs so I cannot comment on them but go over to Politics now and you will see plenty of others giving personal digs and general baiting and they are still there.

Sherifu

I am MAN wrote:

Pretty bad attempt alright.

And the moral is:
NEVER try to be funny with a mod.
Not all of them will have a sense of humour, if any.
But in this case it seems you were banned for a threadbare reason.

Evil Phil

The use of the term 'Old Boys Network' makes me uncomfortable, um-kay? We go by the phrase 'The Conspiracy' as its non-gender specific.

If you keep you head down for a while, I am MAN, and then ask *nicely* for access to the forum again I'm sure you'll get in.

I am MAN

rkm wrote:

And the moral is:
NEVER try to be funny with a mod.
Not all of them will have a sense of humour, if any.
But in this case it seems you were banned for a threadbare reason.

I use humour in my personality, why should this change with a mod? They are normal people sitting behind a computer screen like myself.

The comment wasnt meant as a smart ass comment with intent to annoy him and I am sorry if it came across this way.

A Dub in Glasgo

Evil Phil wrote:

The use of the term 'Old Boys Network' makes me uncomfortable, um-kay? .

You are right - I take it back

Sherifu

I am MAN wrote:

I use humour in my personality, why should this change with a mod? They are normal people sitting behind a computer screen like myself.

The comment wasnt meant as a smart ass comment with intent to annoy him and I am sorry if it came across this way.

I use humour too.
Its a big part of who i am but I don't have to use it.
It has gotten me into trouble.......
Knowing when to use it is a good thing.

I am MAN

rkm wrote:

I use humour too.
Its a big part of who i am but I don't have to use it.
It has gotten me into trouble.......
Knowing when to use it is a good thing.

Well thats good for you, point taken.

azezil

I know noone pays me any attention when it comes to serious issues (:P) but I have to agree, I think its not fair to ban someone from a forum because you think they're "potentially a muppet".

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

heh
was my ban extended too?

sweet

seamus

azezil wrote:

I know noone pays me any attention when it comes to serious issues (:P) but I have to agree, I think its not fair to ban someone from a forum because you think they're "potentially a muppet".

I agree, but I think there's some merit in extending a ban because said person has shown no desire to change.

Essentially it's a like a criminal receiving a suspended sentence, in their home country, and then travelling to other countries and committing the same crime. Would you think he's learned from his mistake, or is he still a scumbag?

azezil

My cats breath smells like cat food.

amp

I am Man banned from Humanities.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

amp banned from fashion/appearance.

amp

Mordeth banned from LIFE!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

I never post there anyways !

The Sweeper

gandalf wrote:

I am well within my rights to exclude you from Politics as a potential troublemaker.

...as the British government said to suspected terrorists before placing them under house arrest.

bonkey

Minesajackdaniels wrote:

...as the British government said to suspected terrorists before placing them under house arrest.

Eh, no Ted.

You're confusing the assumption of guilt with the knowledge of guilt coupled with the assumption of high probability of re-offence.

jc

Boston

I user should not be banned from a forum because of actions on other forums. That is simply wrong. If Amp actually has banned I am Man from "his" forum then that also is wrong.

Point though, this is not what happened here. The user demonstrated that he clearly intended to carry on in the same vein on the politics forum as he has on other forums. As a result, conduct on other forums can be used to form and opinion on the user. Once banned, it is at the moderators descreasion to unban a user. I was banned from several forums, by a moderator, having posted only once or twice.

Sangre

I wouldn't be impressed if I was I AM man tbh.

uberwolf

Boston wrote:

A user should not be banned from a forum because of actions on other forums. That is simply wrong.

wrong. The cat mods exist for this very purpose (ignore the oversimplification) If a user is going on a blitz then pre-emptive strikes can be justified. Of course the irony of a justification of pre-emptive movements in discussion of a politics ban isn't lost on me

I've no comment to make on the origical topic of this thread cos I haven't read it nor can I bring myself to care.

GuanYin

Sangre wrote:

I wouldn't be impressed if I was I AM man tbh.

I'm sure nooone would be impressed if they were you.

Sangre

Another cutting blow psi, I think one more ban from #boards.ie might finish me off.

I think you have issues with me, perhaps my rejection of your advances has made you bitter and twisted. Wouldn't be the first time.

GuanYin

Sangre wrote:

Another cutting blow psi, I think one more ban from #boards.ie might finish me off.

I think you have issues with me, perhaps my rejection of your advances has made you bitter and twisted. Wouldn't be the first time.

I'm not sure who you are, you just appeared a few weeks back.

Meh, if you are finished off that easily and can only come up with the oul cliched "rejection" jibe you're not worth my attention.

Sangre

I'm glad you picked up on my 'cliche'.
Obviously not as good as your 'not worth my time' cliche.

I'm sure nooone would be impressed if they were you.

I'm not sure who you are, you just appeared a few weeks back.

So you were insulting me without reason? An unprovocked personal attack?
Im reporting this.