Any one out there used Norateen?

crispybear

Hi Ya'll Doin. Have started back pushing some Iron And was wondering What are the best Supps?I have bought some Cyclone and have some protein powder from way back. A friend of mine in the Uk told me the best job was this Norateen, I done a google on it and it talks the talk. I wanna know has anyone any Xperience with it or is it even safe for that matter. It seems a little pricy too...around E75??

logic1

Norateens a waste of money. It's based around methoxy and ecdysterone neither of which are much use to bodybuilders.

They claim it's stronger than some steroids (I think they named dianabol in the earlier advertising but have since removed that). These claims are simply untrue.

LA Muscle are great at marketing and steep pricing but I'd steer clear of any of their supposedly anabolic substances.

If you want to try a legal 'Pro Hormone' get some M1T and try it out (Methyl 1 Testosterone). I believe the laws are changing shortly throughout Europe and M1T is on the list of substances to be banned but for now it's still legal.

.logic.

crispybear

M1T....Shrinkage of testicles....! And infertility....!
Sounds like a bargin for 25 notes... Growing tits I dont mind..Narf..

Have u used this supp before? any side effects that your aware of and what can u do to counteract them?

logic1

crispybear wrote:

M1T....Shrinkage of testicles....! And infertility....!
Sounds like a bargin for 25 notes... Growing tits I dont mind..Narf..

Have u used this supp before? any side effects that your aware of and what can u do to counteract them?

Don't believe everything you read but M1T is one of the stronger legal supplements available and a proper course of PCT is recommended afterwards to restore full... functionality of various organs.

.logic.

crispybear

logic1 wrote:

Don't believe everything you read but M1T is one of the stronger legal supplements available and a proper course of PCT is recommended afterwards to restore full... functionality of various organs.

.logic.

PCT is that a estrogen inhibitor like 6 OXO?
Do u take The M1t for say, two weeks and then a course of 6 OxO, or do you take the OxO along with the course of M1T...?

also As a lot of this is new to me can u explain stacking to me ??As its coming up a lot when I google things up.

logic1

crispybear wrote:

PCT is that a estrogen inhibitor like 6 OXO?
Do u take The M1t for say, two weeks and then a course of 6 OxO, or do you take the OxO along with the course of M1T...?

also As a lot of this is new to me can u explain stacking to me ??As its coming up a lot when I google things up.

Just as a matter of interest you say you've "started back pushing some iron" how long are you back training with?

What's your nutrition and rest like? Is your weights routine not giving you any gains?

If you're just starting back I wouldn't bother supplementing with anything like M1T or pro hormones for quite some time.

.logic.

crispybear

Always have done a bit of weights for years in fits and starts, I'd go for it for 2-3 weeks and then probably would'nt lift any for another 2-3 weeks...! Bought my self a Power Tec Bench from VJ's before Christmas to replace my small uncomfortable argus York bench. Have run a few courses of creatine and at min am on cyclone and Maxpro Protein powder.

Training at present:
Mon 3 k run in early morn then do chest and back in eve
Tues Rugby training in eve
Wed 3 k run in morn and shoulders+legs in eve
Thur Rugby training in eve
Fri bench in eve and what ever else I can think of.
Sat either a game or Hill sprints and some high intensity
Sun Rest

Week not set in stone so I chop it and change it a little to suit.
at the min I'm only benching 115 and thats max, would like to increase this before summer.

Flex

Dont buy Maximuscle, that stuff is ridiculously overpriced.I used to buy their Promax which was about E55 for 908 grams.If ya live near the Blanchardstown centre ya can get some good protein in Nutkeg.Also for creatine, a friend of mine in the UK simply buys creatine and that monohydrate stuff called Dextrose seperately and mixes em.Saves a fortune.Or just buy online from muscletech or optimum nutrition in the US or some UK companies.

Anyway, I dont know your age, height, weight, goals, etc. so I cant really give an exact answer.I do this and I get good gains : 1.75 grams protein per pound of bodyweight,low fat and creatine(with dextrose),though i havnt used it in a while.Get as much of your protein as ya can from real food and supplement the rest.I used Cyclone for a while too, I amnt sure but from what I member about it is that it was basically like a hybrid of Promax and Creatamax 8000?I found it was good, but once again, damn expensive.Have ya hit a plateau with your training?Havnt heard of "Norateen", but M1T is supposed to be good.

crispybear

Am 26, 6ft and just headin for 13.5 stone or is that 14.5? so thats around 190-200lbs so if I'm right thats a lot of protein...? i'm only taking around 30-40 grams in powder and dont know how much in food!

Yur right about things leveling off . but I suppose it doesnt help when I have no spotter at the min to make me go the xtra reps. And that maximuscle is wild expensive...

logic1

Drop me a private message mate and I can go through M1T cycles with you in private.

Due to the nature of M1T and the possible banning of it quite soon I'd rather keep it off the board

.logic.

Jak

Legal is legal. On the board I tend to go on the basis of what you can buy not what the IOC says you can take.

Any discussions out of this range should be taken off boards - don't make any work for me please. If you are just looking for a new pen pal that's grand logic ...

logic1

Jak wrote:

Legal is legal. On the board I tend to go on the basis of what you can buy not what the IOC says you can take.

Any discussions out of this range should be taken off boards - don't make any work for me please. If you are just looking for a new pen pal that's grand logic ...

The M1T is legal over the counter JayK but the PCT meds for proper M1T recovery are prescription which is why I suggested taking it off board.

Wouldn't want you to work any harder than you already do...

.logic.

Jak

I know, I know. You are just a big ball of consideration.