If the pope dies??

ninebeanrows

The pope is currently in a very bad condition in a hospital in Rome...

He is very frail and rumour has it he could be near death.
He was rushed to hospital a few hours ago.

What i want to know is *if* the pope dies and i pray he doesnt

Would we have a day off??

KTRIC

Why would we possibly have the day off ???

Does the whole world come to a standstill just for one man !!

Mimikyu

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beachbabe

Was there a day of mourning in Britain when the queen mum died? I would expect there would be for the Pope, not sure if that means a day off though...

Bottle_of_Smoke

maybe if you work in a catholic school

joe.

There WILL be a national day off. I'll be so upset I will be taking a week off.

[Jackass]

Banta Fodder wrote:

Why would we possibly have the day off ???

Does the whole world come to a standstill just for one man !!

Jesus would be rolling on his cross :rolleyes:

idontknowmyname

He's a man, i'm not at all religious so no day off, i wont be sad or anything. I actually hate the fact that this country is so religious cause they think they are a super religion, i'm open to all religions and everyone has a right to practice whatever they like without being condemned for it.

Earlier the pope said that same sex marriages are evil, if they're in love....go for it

NotMe

DubGuy22 wrote:

Jesus would be rolling on his cross :rolleyes:

lol tbh.

Talliesin

Maybe if you lived in the Vatican that would make sense.

Here in Ireland we're supposed to be living in a republic, so the Pope's no important than you or I (less so, I'm both a citizen and a resident, he's neither).

passive

office pool, anyone?

DMC

We really can only go by what happened in 1978, when John Paul I died after a month in charge and the previous pope before him. And I'm not 100% sure what happened then either. RTÉ may have gone off the air those evenings as a mark of respect etc, but now, I'd say rolling news like any other network would happen. Schools may have had TV's and pupils watch the funeral etc. Again not 100%.

As they say, the past is a very different country.

Chonaic

passive wrote:

office pool, anyone?

*rings PaddyPower Dial-a-Bet*

Piste

If the Pope dies, all the cardinals should be put in a house and monitered 24/7. This should be broadcasted on live tv, preferably E4. The public around the world then get to vote off one cardinal at a time and the remaining cardinal would be the new Pope.

Wertz

Well regardless of whether he dies in the next while or not, we'll never hear him say mass or speak in any way again after a tracheotomy was performed to help ease his breathing difficulty. This is an emergency procedure which involves cutting a small hole in the trachea just below the voice-box.

Chinafoot

i reckon he's already dead.......Weekend at Bernie's style.













no disrespect

FranknFurter

Gummybearz!!! wrote:

If the Pope dies, all the cardinals should be put in a house and monitered 24/7. This should be broadcasted on live tv, preferably E4. The public around the world then get to vote off one cardinal at a time and the remaining cardinal would be the new Pope.

ROTFLMQAO!!!

I'm not religious by any stretch of the imagination, but if he did pop his popey-clogs Im sure i'd feel about as "upset" as I would upon hearing any poisenous old hatred-inciting, judgemental, hurtful, society-damaging, old toad had.

b

[Jackass]

Any Irish lads in the running for pope if he kicks the holy gold plated bucket?
Senior monarchs that are Irish?
Like Pope Doogle McGuire or something?
Ahh, wouldn't that be great Ted!?

FranknFurter

I vote: PAUL O' GRADY, FOR POPE!

pickarooney

Urbi et Orbi through a tracheotomy would be kind of cool.

hmmmmmmmmnthennnnnnammmmofthefatherrrrrrrrnnnnnnn

Healio

Gummybearz wrote:

If the Pope dies, all the cardinals should be put in a house and monitered 24/7. This should be broadcasted on live tv, preferably E4. The public around the world then get to vote off one cardinal at a time and the remaining cardinal would be the new Pope.

POPE IDOL



lord have mercy on my soul

FranknFurter

ACTUALLY, I think we all here should get a petition,......... AZEZIL FOR POPE!:D

Simi

"Sob...Can...we...skip...church?" -Homer. If the pope dies i'm sure there'll be some sort of candle lit crap led by president "i think we should put god in the european constituition" McAlesse followed by a good old sing along and holding hands crap.

Wertz

pickarooney wrote:

Urbi et Orbi through a tracheotomy would be kind of cool.

hmmmmmmmmnthennnnnnammmmofthefatherrrrrrrrnnnnnnn

surely you mean Gurgle et Urgle...?
I'm definitely going to hell now...

hawkmoon269

Talliesin wrote:

Maybe if you lived in the Vatican that would make sense.

Here in Ireland we're supposed to be living in a republic, so the Pope's no important than you or I (less so, I'm both a citizen and a resident, he's neither).

I find this comment coming from you rather strange considering that you accused me of 'Christian-bashing' on another sub-forum, an allegation I view as totally and utterly ridiculous and false. I was prepared to let it go until I saw this.

Different rules for mods I guess - Hypocrisy rules ok.

Fr Dougal

DubGuy22 wrote:

Like Pope Doogle McGuire or something?
Ahh, wouldn't that be great Ted!?

Hey Dub Guy, Thanks for the vote of confidence.

However, I'm gonna to stick to what I'm good at, and I'm good at being a priest!

StupidLikeAFox

i find it strange how many people hate the guy, and would like to see him dead. He's an old man whos dying, for shame, for shame

Mimikyu

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Sysiphus

What I don't get is the amount of requests for prayer for the old codger, if indeed he has the ear of god (I'm an athiest, so you know what I think!) surely he's the last person that needs intervention on his behalf !!!! If his own boss won't do anything then what hope has anyone else. Unless it's like all the babies in limbo needing to be prayed for, the mass (no pun intended, well....) or whiskiality (sorry, spirtuality) may cause G to reconsider and inflict the catholic world with another few years of his pre Vat 2, right wing, med-evil views.


Nothing personal to the guy but the sooner he goes (from the seat) by either retirement or other means, the better. Allow someone else with more modern views to drag the church back to where it would have been if JP1 hadn't been murdered.

vibe666

surely it would be a promotion for him anyway wouldn't it?

it does seem that he's been fighting it off for waay to long now anyway. surely someone that high up who know's there's not a thing more he can do in this world would have let go by now if he had some faith in the almighty.

kinda makes you wonder about the afterlife if someone in his position is hanging on for dear life!

BEAT

here is a handy link that shows the process of electing a new pope:
http://www.catholic-pages.com/pope/election.asp

and to answer your question, no it wont become a national holiday because the pope died , so most likley you wont have the day off.
they have 9 days of mourning and devout Catholics may get to leave work early or something to go worship and pray...but the Vatican cant declare it a national holiday, so you will be stuck at work

Talliesin

hawkmoon269 wrote:

I find this comment coming from you rather strange considering that you accused me of 'Christian-bashing' on another sub-forum, an allegation I view as totally and utterly ridiculous and false. I was prepared to let it go until I saw this.

I partially retracted that accusation. Still, saying that someone who is a citizen of another country and lives in that another country should be of less concern to the Irish state than an Irishman who lives in Ireland doesn't strike me as "Christian-bashing".
Now, I have many less than complimentary things to say about the old misogynistic homophobe and the organisation he heads should be investigated for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, aiding and abetting rape, sexual assault and intimidation, withholding of evidence, and corruption, as should at least some of its leaders in this country. It's not always on-topic for me to express that opinion though, and never on-topic in either of the two boards I moderate (I can see it having a slight relevance in Paganism as to why someone began evaluating the religious views they were raised with, I'd be very surprised if it ever came up in Programming).

hawkmoon269 wrote:

Different rules for mods I guess - Hypocrisy rules ok.

Yes it's part of the conspiracy of all of us mods to oppress boards users until you are all broken husks of human beings that will do our bidding. Or maybe you're talking ****e and it's really a case of different rules for different boards (it's not like mods have never banned other mods before).

Talliesin

BEAT wrote:

they have 9 days of mourning and devout Catholics may get to leave work early or something to go worship and pray

You can legally insist on taking the holidays you are legally entitled to as an employee on days of religious significance to yourself. However your employer does have a right to a degree of notice about this which may negate this legal right in this particular case, which was written with the holidays/feast days/fast days/etc. that are part of a religion's regular calendar in mind.

Ray777

It's very fashionable nowadays to take the piss out of the Pope and I have to say, I find it pretty pathetic. I'm not religious at all, but it strikes me as extremely disrespectful to slag off the dying leader of millions of Catholics, purely because you don't agree with the teachings of Catholicism. If I was to start making similar insults about Islam or Judaism, I'd (quite rightly) be shouted down and called a bigot. Why is the Catholic Church seen as 'fair game'?


On the subject of the Pope's health - I think they're probably doing too much to keep him alive. He's 84 and therefore his death is inevitable. It seems cruel to keep someone who is quite clearly in huge pain and discomfort alive. If I was a practising Catholic, I'd be praying for God to take him.

When the Pope does die, I think there's a fair chance of a 'National Day of Mourning'. We had one in September 2001, when America suffered a tragedy - surely a country where the bulk of the population is Catholic should somehow officially mark the death of the Pope.

elivsvonchiaing

Ray777 wrote:

It's very fashionable nowadays to take the piss out of the Pope and I have to say, I find it pretty pathetic. I'm not religious at all, but it strikes me as extremely disrespectful to slag off the dying leader of millions of Catholics, purely because you don't agree with the teachings of Catholicism.

Think most people are coming from the sex scandals and the cover-ups etc. Many though from the perspective that whatever they do is excusable, eliminate catholic "childhood" remorse; e.g. hates new work colleague (female), has good marriage; she makes advances; mental confusion: justification: catholic church is load of crap; returns advances. There's too much of this going on - but do think most brands of christianity are flawed anyway.

Think the guilt-trip is just too much of an emphasis in Catholicism tbh!

The pope dying - fairly sure he will soon. To "recover" so quickly from an illness then to be hospitalised again so quickly does not have a good prognosis - and I'm not a doctor. Infection from tracheotmy could just as easily kill him.

billy the squid

passive wrote:

office pool, anyone?

http://www.deathlist.net

therecklessone

If the Pope dies, who takes over in goal?

Ancient1

Talliesin wrote:

I have many less than complimentary things to say about the old misogynistic homophobe and the organisation he heads should be investigated for conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, aiding and abetting rape, sexual assault and intimidation, withholding of evidence, and corruption, as should at least some of its leaders in this country.

Damn straight. I couldn't have said it more diplomatically.

Blisterman

Ray777 wrote:

When the Pope does die, I think there's a fair chance of a 'National Day of Mourning'. We had one in September 2001, when America suffered a tragedy - surely a country where the bulk of the population is Catholic should somehow officially mark the death of the Pope.

Id say it's unlikely, they would, for 2 reasons.

1. They risk upsetting people of other religions, and it could cause contraversy.

2. It's unlikely they'd have another day of mourning anyway after the last one, where people used it as an excuse to get drunk. Thats why there wasnt one after the tsunami.

bada_bing

oh for the love of god!! i can't understand what the big fuss is about the pope and his impending demise! for christ's sake he's just a figurehead, a puppet, an elected offical representative just like Mary McAleese is for Ireland and no-one gives a toss about her at all. in my opinion he's no more special than any other old crank out there.

dearg_doom

the Pope's grand lads, I just heard on the news he just had a latte, 10 biscuits and a yoghurt.

he's laughing

Kingsize

Does anyone remember when devalera died?
rte showed nothing but a painting with sombre background music for what seemed like days on end,CU_NTS!! i was waiting for sesame st!
still itd be better than whats on in the afternoon these days.

Kingsize

"Thats why there wasnt one after the tsunami."

more like the irish government jumped the gun and kissed american corporate ass in sept 2001.
most of the countries affected by the tsunami could only steal our crap jobs & not provide them

passive

bada_bing: oh for the love of god!! i can't understand what the big fuss is about the pope and his impending demise! for christ's sake he's just a figurehead, a puppet, an elected offical representative just like Mary McAleese is for Ireland and no-one gives a toss about her at all. in my opinion he's no more special than any other old crank out there.

That's all very cute and we all think so much of you now that you've had your say. For the record nobody was really making a "big fuss" and most of us were casually discussing the implications of his death and whether or not it affects us. (note to kingsize: affects, not effects)

oh...and For God's sake? for christ's sake? you put a lot of thought into your turns of phrase into that brilliant little rant...didn't you?

(err...mocks didn't go well. i'm cranky)

Kingsize

Capital "C" for Christ surely???

b0bsquish

Hopefully the old man will kick the bucket sooner rather that later, he cant speak ffs!! let him die in peace, he's the pope so he'll go to heaven and all that whatever that everyone believes in.... :rolleyes: anyway.....i vote glenn danzig for the next pope

vibe666

can't we have pope dougal?

*adele*

i second that!!!

elivsvonchiaing

Kingsize wrote:

Does anyone remember when devalera died?
rte showed nothing but a painting with sombre background music for what seemed like days on end,CU_NTS!! i was waiting for sesame st!
still itd be better than whats on in the afternoon these days.

Jebus you must be old as me. Only the faintest recollection of that, remember it was on the day - days on end well you could be right - just don't remember - has to be 30 years ago :eek: (too lazy to look up date of his death).


I now doubt the pope will see out 2005. What is worth asking who will be the next pope? Will he make women priests? (Probably not). I think if he's over 60 he will be less liberal. No matter what age he is I think he'll side with african/south american values - which are fairly conservative, so even no matter what he really believes this will remain in the closet, and he'll continue to condemn homosexuality, protected sex :mad:. However, I do seriously think he may consider lifting celibacy on male priests; making it possible for them to marry. Think this will reduce sex scandals, and make some guy up on the pulpit; who otherwise wouldn't have been near a vagina since he was born; lecturing everyone on how to live a married life; somehow more credible!

Sysiphus

elivsvonchiaing wrote:

However, I do seriously think he may consider lifting celibacy on male priests; making it possible for them to marry. Think this will reduce sex scandals, and make some guy up on the pulpit; who otherwise wouldn't have been near a vagina since he was born; lecturing everyone on how to live a married life; somehow more credible!

Bear in mind that sex and marrige in the priesthood has nothing to do with sin etc. and more to do with land and the church not wanting to loose property (the root of all income and wealth). Priests used to be married up until about 800 bce.

This is in the same vein as papal infalability, which only started in about 1824. So it's all a crock, the rules change as per the current political mood or benefit, the way the church accepts new science as if they knew all along.

So the new pope will make whatever SMALL changes are need to keep the masses suplicant.

Töpher

Why all this Pope Dougal nonsense?! Pope Hackett would be far more supreme! All hail!