All these new diets.........

Rossonero

IMHO, you don't need to go on diets to lose weight.

Exercise is the key. Start off easy and work your way up and up and up.

I'm 20 yrs am 10-10 1/2 stone. I eat loads and loads of junk food- (burgers, chips, 8 biscuits a day, 3 chocolate bars a day, desserts evry day)
But I am very sporty (futbal, cycling, running) so I am even getting thinner and lighter.

Captain Trips

Herr Capitan wrote:

IMHO, you don't need to go on diets to lose weight.

Exercise is the key. Start off easy and work your way up and up and up.

I'm 20 yrs am 10-10 1/2 stone. I eat loads and loads of junk food- (burgers, chips, 8 biscuits a day, 3 chocolate bars a day, desserts evry day)
But I am very sporty (futbal, cycling, running) so I am even getting thinner and lighter.

Yeah you're right; mostly people do diets to try and artificially change their habits. Better off exercising and getting a faster metabolism than sitting down all day long anyway but eating celery.

irlirishkev

Metabolism does play a big part in it. Increasing your resting metabolism will help burn off calories. Excercise and a good weights routine increases metabolism.

However, I do believe there are those who simply can't shift weight.. hormonal imbalances or whatever. But these are few and far between. I think where most people fail is by eating too much rubbish and not getting any excercise..

I have a relatively high metabolism, but I will put on flab if I eat crap and don't excercise. I excercise and/or workout 3 times a week to avoid this. It's my way of not becoming a big fat bastard!

K.

dudara

I'm 20 yrs am 10-10 1/2 stone. I eat loads and loads of junk food- (burgers, chips, 8 biscuits a day, 3 chocolate bars a day, desserts evry day)

Wait until you hit 45 and die of a heart attack. While exercise is vital, you're a fool if you don't also watch what you eat.

windowgazer

ummm... at your age and with your activity you can afford to take in loads of calories without gaining weight. BUT.. and this is a major one. Its not just calories going into you. there's alot of crap ingredients in burgers, chips, deserts, chocolate bars which are building up in your system. They'll cause u health probs down the line like high cholestorol, digestive disorders, bad skin, and too many other to mention. you are what u eat...
I agree u don't need a diet to lose weight. Instead a healthy eating plan and excercise will have longterm benefits as well as helping weight loss

daymobrew

Herr Capitan - I think you and I have a bit of luck on our side. I'm 34 and been 10.5 - 11 stone forever. I am a sugar junkie but I exercise a lot (70 min round trip fast cycle to work 4 days a week; train/run the other day). I avoid fatty foods though.

dudara - I've often wondered what would happen if I quit the exercise.
It's not too difficult to incorporate a little exercise into ones daily routine - stairs instead or lift, don't park in disabled persons spaces right at the door etc. Some people have the motivation, so just don't. Again I am lucky here.

dudara

Again I am lucky here.

Sorry daymobrew, very very few people are so lucky that they don't have to exercise or watch what they eat. even if now, your metabolism is keeping things under control, remember the simple fact that you're an Irish male who on average die young.

My bfs father nearly died of a massive heart attack two years ago. In fact, he did die, there on a factory floor where he was consulting, but the paramedics managed to bring him back. He has a quadruple bypass afterwards.

He looked healthy enough, was slender, granted he did smoke like a chimney, but the point I'm trying make in relation to your post is that being thin will not tell the heart-attack bogeyman to go away.

seamus

Well, it can twofold.

As most dieting books will tell readers - you don't need to exercise to lose weight, but it will help shift it quicker, and it will also help keep it off.

For many people, exercise alone will not lose you weight. I was pretty chubby when I was a teenager, and for about 2-3 years I spent every waking hour on a bike, I was mad into my mountain biking. My exercise consisted of about 10 miles a day (most of it staggered, but about 3 hours in total cycling), and then 30-40 miles through the mountains most Saturdays and Sundays.

Yet I never shifted the weight. My problem was mainly metabolism. I ate more than my metabolism would convert into energy. There is such a thing as people having naturally low metabolism, and others having naturally high metabolism. My housemate, for example, east nothing but crap. Pizzas, chippers, sweets. All high carb, high fat food.

Yet he never gains a pound, and never does a tap of exercise. I, on the other hand, am the opposite, any excess in food, or reduction in excercise, and it becomes fat. I've been losing weight recently, and that's mainly due to controlling my food intake. I started in the gym back in November, 3-4 days a week of cardio and weights, and while there has been some slight increase in the rate of weight loss, the bulk of my weight loss is still attributed to the diet. If the diet doesn't go too well one week, weight is loss is minimal. Even if the exercise goes well, it doesn't seem to make a difference. I do notice improvements in stamina, fitness and strength though.

As Kev, says, I can accept that *some* people can't shift weight because of hormonal problems, but these people would be very rare, and ultimately, I beleive there's no such thing as someone who cannot lose weight no matter.

It's perfectly obvious though that there are people who are more prone to weight gain than others, and metabolisms that will always remain low or lower than average.

You will also find that dieting is an important place to start for many people. Particularly when you get older, the more weight you have, the more damage you could potentially do with exercise. If someone is 6-7 stone overweight and jumps on a treadmill, they're putting massive strain on their heart, and their joints. If they diet, lose 3-4 stone over a few months, they're in a much better position to begin exercising with less risk to their health.

daymobrew

Again I am lucky here.

I meant I was lucky with motivation to exercise, unlike those who don't do any exercise and don't have the motivation to do some.
My original 'I am lucky' referred to my low weight - my exercise probably contributes but I think I am lucky to have a metabolisism that handles the amount of sugar that I consume.

As for the heart-attack bogeyman, I am hoping that my diet (ignorning the sugar consumption) will help e.g. lack of chips/fatty food, eating good amount of veg, getting some fish in. The exercise can only help too.
Yes, nothing is guaranteed and that there are no heart problems in my family is another nice bonus.

Back to Herr Capitan - Probably best to try reduce the bad foods. As dudara said, your luck may run out.

Transform

Herr Capitan wrote:

IMHO, you don't need to go on diets to lose weight.

Exercise is the key. Start off easy and work your way up and up and up.

I'm 20 yrs am 10-10 1/2 stone. I eat loads and loads of junk food- (burgers, chips, 8 biscuits a day, 3 chocolate bars a day, desserts evry day)
But I am very sporty (futbal, cycling, running) so I am even getting thinner and lighter.

aBSOLUTELY AMAZINGLY SILLY COMMENT!!

With all the sudden death's in young sports people it defies reason to not eat right while exercising. Anyone who takes regualar exercise needs to eat MORE healthy than the average person as they are breaking down and repairing tissue faster. I know your general intention was right i.e. take lots of regular exercise but please think before exercising your fingers next time!!

Oh yes and MORE supplements are necessary for the regular trainer. Some of the best atheletes in the world are more prone to infections and illness due to the level they compete and train at.

8bi1ctzegfouva

all it takes is a bit of effort and a good bit of determination. i have lost a load of weight recently, simply by cutting out all the ****e food i was eating - loads of chocolate and sweets etc., and by going to the gym a good bit. i am now at a weight which i am almost happy with, aboout another 5 or 6 lbs and ill be good, but i have started eating properly again, and am continuing to lose the weight, like people have said before, all you need to do is put in that extra bit of effort, i.e. walk somewhere instead of driving.

Sangre

I hate people bugger on about metabolisms, so much so I wrote in my new super duper blog about it
At the moment people will go to me, you're not doing any exercise but I'm fatter, its not fair. Of course they ignore the fact I cycle/walk everywhere, especially college and I don't eat sweets, chocolate, crisps, white bread, fizzy drinks, coffee etc., I'd have something bad maybe once a week, mainly due to lack of options. Anyway, when people say that someone has a high metabolism they don't usually see the full picture. Of course some poeple just do have high metabolism, I knew a lad who ate god knows what, so much sugar and fat and never played any sport. However, this guy was nearl underweight and had no muscle/strength, he just wasn't healthy.

Man...I really should start my exercise plan soon.

shoegirl

Rossonero wrote:

IMHO, you don't need to go on diets to lose weight.

Exercise is the key. Start off easy and work your way up and up and up.

I'm 20 yrs am 10-10 1/2 stone. I eat loads and loads of junk food- (burgers, chips, 8 biscuits a day, 3 chocolate bars a day, desserts evry day)
But I am very sporty (futbal, cycling, running) so I am even getting thinner and lighter.

I hate to be patronising but you really are showing your youth and immaturity here. Your body changes as you age and lifestyle changes dramatically can change the way your body operates. A lot of people are either very thin as youths - I myself was barely 8 stone when your age but by my early 30s was 13-14 stone. 6 months of 4 gym sessions a week, 30 minutes walking everyday and a couple of long cycles (uphill) made very little difference. A strict diet was the only solution.

I'd really like you to come back in 10-15 years time and see what applies to you then. A lot of people put on a lot of weight after buying their first car or having children. I wouldn't say that exercise doesn't help, but for many people it is simply not enough. By the sounds of things your diet is very unhealthy right now, and the bad habits you are learning now will become difficult to unlearn later in life.