Refused Entry Into TIME niteclub!

huggybear

Hey everybody, I got a question concerning entry into Nite clubs. Saturday nite just gone, it was one of my friends 18th birthdays, so me and five of my friends decided to go to TIME niteclub in Naas all the way from Laois. We were really looking foward to it but when we got to the entrance we were :eek: YES! We were turned away!! We didn't even think of the possibility of being turned away because none of us had been drinking before heading off and none of us had a bad reputation in TIME. Dis is the way it was - "' When we got there, there was a crowd waiting to get in. We lined up (like u wud) and so far everyone else in the que was getting in. Then it came to us. 'ID's there boys' , one of the bouncers said. We all took out our ID's (mostly passports with 2 of us having a passport and a drivers license and maybe even a garda id) The bouncers checked one of my friends passports. Asked how much of us there was. He said, 'there is six of us'. Then the bouncer looks at the rest of us and says in an ignorant tone, 'Right boys, not tonight!'. We were totally shocked!! We didn't expect that at all. One of my friends who drove us pleaded with him for a few minutes taking out his passport, driver's license, garda ID, and even a TIME membership card. The bouncer once again said, 'Go home, not tonight!'. We asked for a reason but they wouldn't give us one. Then they just said, ' it's our property, go home!!'. We were all in Shirt n Shoes!"' They had no excuse. I don't want to be thinking this, but, I am of asian characteristics ( I don't look Irish) so i was just wondering maybe he seen me and thought NO!! so instead of just telling me to go away he'd save himself abit and tell everyone who was with me to go away aswell. Does anyone know, even if it is nothing to do with racism, if there is anything I can do to legally 'hurt' these bouncers as it was very embarrassing for me and my friends????!!!! :mad: :mad:

Does anyone know, even if it is nothing to do with racism, if there is anything I can do to legally 'hurt' these bouncers as it was very embarrassing for me and my friends????!!!!

Sounds very petty. Why try to punish them? You were denied entrance, move on.

Regardless, as far as I stand Bouncers can block people from entry since the owners still reserve the right to deny entrance. No difference than nightclubs for the last decade.

I'm 27 hitting 28. Do i get stopped from entering clubs. Yup, i do. Have I been denied entrance? Sometimes. For my age, sometimes. Cause I naturally have the shakes, yup, sometimes. Is this wrong? Not in my book. They still have the right to block entrance, as long as its not based on Racist tendacies.

As for embarrassment, you're embarrassed because you were denied entrance to a club? Get used to it. Until you're a few years older, this will happen a fair bit.

seamus

Nothing you can do.

He had already made his decision before you got to the door. A swagger, a strange look, something made them think "I don't want these guys in our club". He probably saw a group of lads out for a drunken night and decided it wouldn't be worth it.

Asking for an ID was looking for a legit reason to say no, but ultimately, they can say no without reason, and you've no comeback.

Best practice is to always go up to clubs in twos, split into boy-girl pairs, if you can.

CTU_Agent

Does anyone know, even if it is nothing to do with racism, if there is anything I can do to legally 'hurt' these bouncers as it was very embarrassing for me and my friends????!!!! :mad: :mad:

You could take a case under Equal status act claiming you were prevented from entering a licensed premises on race grounds, or at least you felt you were. Its up to 'Time' to prove otherwise and provide a legitimate excuse in court as to why they refused you. It will ultimatley end up with a max settlement to you of about 1200 euro for embarrasment and loss of amenities and possibly the doorman involved will be repremanded....

It will ultimatley end up with a max settlement to you of about 1200 euro for embarrasment and loss of amenities and possibly the doorman involved will be repremanded....

Really? I was pretty sure that was only if you could get your hands on witnesses or security camera footage that displayed the bouncers acting outside the law. The clubs reputation is a huge factor to consider as well.

You might want to check that out further, since you could come out with nothing, still due to pay the costs involved. Judges have been known to throw out cases they view as being a wate of time.

As far as I can see, they (the bouncers) did nothing wrong. They saw a large group of guys, and chose to block them. They chose not to take their money, and politely said no to their entrance.

you're just making a mountain out of a anthill.

superfly

6 of you is way too many to go in together
normally its better policy to split up into smaller groups and go in separetly
they are thinking Stag or drunken lads out for some raucous fun

huggybear

Ok the peplies I'm getting are mainly comeing from pussys who let the world walk all over them and there motto is "get used to it". **** that!! :mad: I want more advice like ns9gb1's advice!!! Thanx ns9gb1 but i want to stay away from the racial side for the minute. I have read the laws and regulations regarding the entry to pubs, clubs, etc. and it is against human rights not to allow people into your public premises without a valid excuse. I was not even given anything that came near to an excuse. Also the way I look in terms of age has legally nothing to do with it. If I have national I.D then I am proving to be 18 or over and unless they have a public display saying that the club is over 21's they cannoyt refuse me. I was sober, polite (even after being turned away) and dressed to the dress code. So no more **** pussy responses and give me some facts!!! Oh yeah and I know I could get a lot of money for the racism thing easily but I don't want to give myself a 'bad' name like that.

huggybear

Deleted User wrote:

and politely said no to their entrance.

To correct you. It was not polite!!! :mad: :mad: It was cold!!! It made us feel like were not good enough for the club!! I hope you still feel like that if you go out with a group of your friends sober and get turned away for nothing.

super_furry

Jesus Christ, get a grip. Six 18-year-old lads trying to get into the club in a gang but get turned away and you're shocked? I take it you don't go to nightclubs often because it's something you're going to have to get used to.

CTU_Agent

im not making it up here either... Im a doorman myself and in all honesty il probably make the same decision given the circumstances you described, simply because all the doorstaff want is a quiet night, and if we see a group of six lads together we know that if one gets a few funny looks from another party the doorstaff have a 'mini riot' to deal with....and we dont want that...

now in saying that if ye wer all a bunch of nice, well behaved, polite and well dressed we would overlook the group of six thing and welcome yis through the door because we can make a fair assumption that if provoked yis would not retaliate because yis arent the type.... (hope im makin sense).

Some doormen arent great at distinguishing nice people from not so nice people and sometimes you end up with a situation similar to your own.

If my training serves my correctly im not obliged to provide a reason for my refusal and if pushed in court we would propably hit for the "we believe the customer was intoxicated at time of arrival and under the Intoxicating liquer act 2003 (i think) we refused entry". And we would be well within our rights to do so... because it is illegal to allow entry to and person whom in your opinion is 'intoxicated'.

Jim

I find the whole niteclub thing very strange, I don't understand why they let some people in and others not.

I went to Bar Code last year with a mate of mine. We were coming home from a gig and decided to pop in for a late pint. Think it was about 12:30 at this stage, we got to the entrance and there was a group of 4 guys infront of us. All well were dressed, shirts, jacks, shoes etc... the boucer refused them straight off "regulars only". We looked like ****, ragged tshirts and jeans (which were worse from the gig).Also I think I had about 4 pints on me at this stage. They didn't even ask us for I.D, we went right in. I've been to Bar Code maybe once before that, so I'm definatly not a regular.

Twas odd.

CTU_Agent

we have to decide instantly wheter we believe the people in front of us are a threat to the staff, customer or ourselves. We look at the behaviour on approch to the door and make an assumption that it can only get worse once alcohol is consumed.. Perhaps the guys in front of you descibed above had drink consumed or were undesirables,or were indeed known to the doorstaff to cause trouble....could be any number of reasons.....we cant just let everyone in....

Ayman al-Zawahi

well considering that we we're drinking before we went over it was w bit stupid that we didnt get in just cos there was a group of us. obviously we were gonna be in a group cos we came 30miles just to go to Time and the taxi costs €100 and i wouldnt be able to afford that on me own. i can understand that a group of people are more likely to cause trouble than one perso but that again who's gonna go to a club on their own?

BuffyBot

I want more advice like ns9gb1's advice!!!

i.e Advice you agree with. Why bother asking then?

huggybear

BuffyBot wrote:

i.e Advice you agree with. Why bother asking then?

its not that i'm agreeing i'm saying that i can kinda see your point but its stupid that you cant get in just cos you're in a group even though all of us had ID like that's what i don't understand about it so no i'm not getting critical. so i just asked outa curiosity cos i thought that when you were actually 18 with ID and thats the age restricrtion that you'd get in, like it's stupid when you arent allowed in just cos your in a group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................................

Gilgamesh

hey huggybear,
first of all, I think if your politeness was anything like you are giving the boards guys here, then you deserved not to get into the place.
you open a thread, and slag everybody's opinion on the case, who also have pretty definetly been to way more clubs than you (including TIME) just because they don't see things your way.
completely agree with Buffybot on this one, WHY BOTHER ASKING???
also, 100Euro, jus to go to a specific club, seems a joke to me, aren't there any clubs closer to your area, where you know from start that you will get in.

Also, because you came up with rules and regulations, clubs and people working there also have the right to refuse service to people without having to give a reason.
why they don't need to give a reason, is explained quite easily.
Because fussy little people could drag them in front of the courts every day, saying they were racist, etc.
get over it and accept it like a grown up.
Welcome to the real world.

if you don't get into one club, there are more clubs to go to, maybe you will have more luck there

Ok the peplies I'm getting are mainly comeing from pussys who let the world walk all over them and there motto is "get used to it". **** that!!

Well considering this comment, I'm not suprised that you were refused. Do you have the maturity of a four year old? :rolleyes:

You asked for advice, and we told you the way things stand. If you chose not to accept it, fine, but don't insult me. :mad:

matrim

I have to agree with most of the replies here. If you get refused there is little you can do. And going in with a group of more that 4 lads, is likely to get you refused. Split up into 2 groups of 3 if there are 6 fo you. Or better yet if there are are a group of girls in the queue try and start a conversation with them and it looks alot better having a group with a mix of lads and girls.

For me If I get refused, I ask why, and try and reason with the bounce for a minute or two. If this doesn't work then I take my (and my friends) money elsewhere. If you try and be a prick about it and constantly harass the bouncer you probably won't get in, are more likely to be refused if you want to go there again. And in the unlikely event you get in, the bouncer will more than likely be pissed off with you and throw you out at the slightest provication.

koneko

huggybear wrote:

Ok the peplies I'm getting are mainly comeing from pussys who let the world walk all over them and there motto is "get used to it". **** that!! :mad:

You really think you're going to get replies from anyone after posting something like that?

If you responded to the bouncer in that sort of way too it's hardly surprising he wouldn't let you in.

Never try and get in in groups. Groups are more likely to cause trouble, they're a little iffy about letting them in. Debating it for 10 minutes isn't going to change his mind, just re-enforce his opinion. Take your money elsewhere and have a good time anyway, and remember that being a jerk doesn't get you anywhere.

azezil

Having had much experience dealing with bouncers over the years I can safely say it was because there were 6 of you, as others have pointed out.

Most clubs don't let in groups of lads in those numbers, you'd be pushing it with 4.

Best thing to do is go in, in 2's, spread a apart.

In fairness it makes sense, think about it from their point of view... group of 6, bouncer goes to throw 1 out for breaking the rules, next thing he knows 5 other guys are attacking him.

smorton

when i get refused i like to go into "big, thick nice guy" mode and keep on asking them why they won't let me in. I make sure never to threaten them but annoy them just long enough to make myself feel better (saying for example "now why'd you let that person in and not me? should i get a skirt and some tits?" and then i move onto the next club. good fun while drunk

CTU_Agent

smorton wrote:

when i get refused i like to go into "big, thick nice guy" mode and keep on asking them why they won't let me in. I make sure never to threaten them but annoy them just long enough to make myself feel better (saying for example "now why'd you let that person in and not me? should i get a skirt and some tits?" and then i move onto the next club. good fun while drunk

A good doorman would just ignore you and make u feel as small and as insignificant as the stale alcohol stuck to the end of his spotlessy clean shoes....and finish you off making sure you dont step foot inside the door again!...thats what id do anyway.....

delop

Drinking heavily a few years ago, myself and a friend tried to get into Copper stained Jocks, Bouncer said to my friend, you can come in but he is too drunk, which I was, didnt want to go in anyway...

But getting refused from CFJ, embarassing, dont think its ever happened before to anyone :-)

Me mate hassled the bouncer, by saying over and over again

Friend:' Why, cant he come in? Why?' X10
Bouncer: 'because he is two drunk!' X10

Bouncer: ahhhha F*ckit, in ye go...

15 mins later Pint in hand sitting on a bar stool, fell off it hopped my head off the bar, and had to be helped up, My friend send me home :-)

Talliesin

They're training bouncers to detect people who spell "this" with a d now. That's why you didn't get in.

CTU_Agent

delop wrote:

15 mins later Pint in hand sitting on a bar stool, fell off it hopped my head off the bar, and had to be helped up, My friend send me home :-)

HAH HAH HAH Serves ya right for hassling the doorstaff....

Lesson: Dont hassle doorstaff, theyl alway have the last laugh!!.....

cajun_tiger

listen i've heard this story so many times with time and its mainly lads getting turned away

Bottle_of_Smoke

Ugh original poster I feel for you, it's a horrible thing to happen. Anyway it was *probably* nothing personal. Now you'll know for future reference not to go up in groups of more than three.

Remember that they're given instructions to make sure people who're gonna spend money get in - if you're drunk already they're not worried you'll do something stupid, they're worried you won't buy any more beer. That's why girls in minskirts have it easier - bouncers know money's gonna be spent attempting to get them drunk.

The only thing that cheers me up when it happens is to start insulting the bouncer personally, "well I suppose he would be bitter because we're students having a night out and he's just a bouncer..." They probably won't care but there's always a slight chance they might.

Nasty_Girl

From my experience with bouncers they usually will do anything to keep the lads out as much as possible.
One club I sometimes go to has a big sign saying "no runners" if I am with a couple of girls or alone they don't say a word and let me straight in despite my great big blue nikes, went up there with my boyfriend and his mates and it was "No sorry no runners".
Fair enough tis what the sign says but why did the rules not apply when I was with the girls??

skywalker

huggybear wrote:

I have read the laws and regulations regarding the entry to pubs, clubs, etc. and it is against human rights not to allow people into your public premises without a valid excuse.

funniest and most factually inconsistant sentence ive read in a long time.

Shabadu

Talliesin wrote:

They're training bouncers to detect people who spell "this" with a d now. That's why you didn't get in.

Ditto the amount of exclamation marks people use.

Esel

ns9bg1 wrote:

A good doorman would just ignore you and make u feel as small and as insignificant as the stale alcohol stuck to the end of his spotlessy clean shoes....and finish you off making sure you dont step foot inside the door again!...thats what id do anyway.....

"finish you off" - was that a typo or a treat (sic)?

Bottle_of_Smoke

Nasty_Girl wrote:

From my experience with bouncers they usually will do anything to keep the lads out as much as possible.
One club I sometimes go to has a big sign saying "no runners" if I am with a couple of girls or alone they don't say a word and let me straight in despite my great big blue nikes, went up there with my boyfriend and his mates and it was "No sorry no runners".
Fair enough tis what the sign says but why did the rules not apply when I was with the girls??

I think this could be that men are genetically very slightly wary of all other men. I'd say female bouncers are equally bitchy to girls

EKRIUQ

huggybear wrote:

all the way from Laois.

Maybe they didn't want a gang of lads from Laois causing trouble.

StupidLikeAFox

True, did ya polish up your wellies and all?

Burago

In general I find the door staff in Time pretty reasonable. I've never been turned away in many visits but that's because I avoid trouble. The only hassle I've ever had there was when I went outside to use my phone and got talking to some guys after my conversation. It turned out they were causing trouble inside. I went up to the door with my ticket stub and was stopped. "Not tonight pal." I told him I was already inside and had left to make a phone call. He asked for the stub and then told me to go away! I was outside for about 45 minutes. I found the head of security and complained. He was pretty understanding and apologetic, I still didn't get in. I went there a week or two afterwards and have never had a problem there since, that was last summer.

On another occasion I was out for a few pints on a Friday night and was planning on going home early. My friends convinced me to come to the club and try even though I was wearing runners. I walked up to the entrance with a girl and was stopped because of what I was wearing. I turned to my friend and told her to have a good night and that I'd see her later. As I walked away he changed his mind and let me in! It just shows that being polite and non-aggressive works.:D

the_syco

Being in Time many a time. Sometimes I went in with a few of the lads, sometimes in a mixed bunch. Once your civil, your grand. I've gone into there after a all-day party (which I went back to afterwards), and was still allowed in.

A bunch of lads would be 3 + me.

Oh, and how did you act before you got to the door. If your seen acting the maggot whilst coming to the door, you'll be refused. Because even if your "kind of" alright, with drink, you'll be a complete ar$ehole.

Burago

There are also quiet a few cameras on the approach to that club, big brother is watching you take a piss on the plants!:D

[Jackass]

ns9bg1 wrote:

You could take a case under Equal status act claiming you were prevented from entering a licensed premises on race grounds, or at least you felt you were. Its up to 'Time' to prove otherwise and provide a legitimate excuse in court as to why they refused you. It will ultimatley end up with a max settlement to you of about 1200 euro for embarrasment and loss of amenities and possibly the doorman involved will be repremanded....

That's all well and good, but there is absolutely nothing to suggest it was race related, and there's no way he would get a settlement for this. I'm 22 original poster, and i've been rejected from night clubs more times than i care to remember, plenty of times without a drop of drink on me. A bouncers job is to protect the premises, and if he doesen't like the look of you, then you're not going in (it may be unfair, but that's life), especially six young lads going in together, im sure he's let lots and lots of groups of lads in like that before, only to throw them out for being to p!ssed and fighting etc. later in the night, so he's not going to take a chance, you should have been smart and split up into 2 groups of 3, but we'll put that down to inexpierience But shame on you for playing the race card! Is everything unfair/bad that happens to you because of your race? It's any easy way to account for your bad luck in life, and having everyone feeling sorry for you or afraid to put you out, for fear of being a "racist", people like you diminish the seriousness of genuine racist claims which should be punished, by crying wolf. It happens to us all, get over it, move on, and expect plenty more where that came from...my advise, always have a plan B for the night.

Burago

Exactly Dubguy, good post.

scratchyy

I was refused from Coppers on Saturday 24/02/07 greatest day ever there was four of us had each about three drinks on us, dressed in shirts, jeans shoes and jumpers. The queue was massive so we spent about 20 mins waitin to get in, we went in in groups of 2, the bouncer turned round to us and said "Sorry lads hold on there a second, i dont know your faces, your not regulars", Before we got to the door a group of 8 guys got in no questions asked, turned round to the bouncer and told him nicley where he can go and we left. how the **** can the bouncer turn round and say that, how can u ****ing become a regular if you cant get into the club. The other one is "not tonight boys", what ****ing night is it then so i can go out that night. Bouncers in this country are a joke, you can go to America at the age of 21 and go into any club you want to. PS i had a lot of money to spend that night

TerrorFirmer

I've never been turned away from anywhere - even a few times I've been wearing runners, I've just said 'Sorry lads, I know they're runners but I've just come from somewhere else, couldn't help it...'....works all the time! Maybe I'm just lucky...

Zombrex

huggybear wrote:

when you were actually 18 with ID and thats the age restricrtion that you'd get in, like it's stupid when you arent allowed in just cos your in a group!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................................

As superfly and .. erm.. super_fly said, it was most likely because you were 6 18 year olds.

Its not particuarly fair on you guys, you might be lovely lads.

But from the bouncers point of view (whos responsibility is to keep trouble at a minimum, for themselves and the rep of the club) when they see six 18 years olds, who might be abit inexperienced with drink and probably going to get drunk quickly, they simply see trouble later on that night.

Next time don't go in as a big group, go in 2 at a time (properly, no point walking up to the queue as a group and then just seperating off when you get to the bouncer). This runs the risk that some will get in and some won't, but thems are the breaks. Or go in with girls, and the perception is that group of girls and guys will be less trouble than a group of guys on their own.

Fratton Fred

I was refused entry to Ivory in Dalkey for pretty much the same reason. Ihad two mates over from England and the bouncer heard us talking as we walked up to the door. The first question he asked was where are you from. I asked him wht he meant so he said where have you come from? I said we had been in the Queens to which he replied not tonight.

It was obvious he wasn't letting us in because we were English but what do you do?

we went in there the following night before the bouncers started, this time there were 12 of us, 7 irish lads and 5 English, as we left we took the piss out of him teling him he must be gutted that there were 5 dirty Englishmen drinking in his pub, (My Irish friends were laughing at him as well) and he was!!

guess I won't be going back for a while:D

Fratton Fred

Fratton Fred wrote:

I was refused entry to Ivory in Dalkey for pretty much the same reason. Ihad two mates over from England and the bouncer heard us talking as we walked up to the door. The first question he asked was where are you from. I asked him wht he meant so he said where have you come from? I said we had been in the Queens to which he replied not tonight.

Does the "Queens" have a good reputation amongst pubs (I assume it IS a pub)? I find that if you say you come from certain pubs, that are known for a certain crowd, it can work against you when trying to enter others.

It was obvious he wasn't letting us in because we were English but what do you do?

I think he could probably have picked up from your accents that you were english, rather than asking where you'd been before. There's plenty of English people over here all the time, and most don't have problems getting into pubs/clubs. At least from my experience, when my brother (who lives in London) and his mates come over they never have a problem.

we went in there the following night before the bouncers started, this time there were 12 of us, 7 irish lads and 5 English, as we left we took the piss out of him teling him he must be gutted that there were 5 dirty Englishmen drinking in his pub, (My Irish friends were laughing at him as well) and he was!!

guess I won't be going back for a while:D

You don't think this is part of the problem? Well done, even if he didn't have anything against English people before, you've just given him a good one. What was the point in acting that way, considering he just refused you from the pub, and he didn't rub your noses in anything. Frankly, that kind of acting, is the reason bouncers act against nationalities or certain social types...

Fratton Fred

Deleted User wrote:

Does the "Queens" have a good reputation amongst pubs (I assume it IS a pub)? I find that if you say you come from certain pubs, that are known for a certain crowd, it can work against you when trying to enter others.



I think he could probably have picked up from your accents that you were english, rather than asking where you'd been before. There's plenty of English people over here all the time, and most don't have problems getting into pubs/clubs. At least from my experience, when my brother (who lives in London) and his mates come over they never have a problem.



You don't think this is part of the problem? Well done, even if he didn't have anything against English people before, you've just given him a good one. What was the point in acting that way, considering he just refused you from the pub, and he didn't rub your noses in anything. Frankly, that kind of acting, is the reason bouncers act against nationalities or certain social types...

the Queens has a very good reputation, they are very strict on who they let in. He wasn;t asking what pub we had been in, he was asking where we were from, which is why I asked him for clarification. The bouncer in question was just being a cocky git and to be honest, the bouncer with him looked embarrassed at the way he was behaving. It was three guys out for a drink and the guy was behaving like we had come over for a stag weekend (Which was, incidentally the following night.) and there was a group of 20 pissed up louts trying t get in.

For the record, I've never had a problem with any other bouncer anywhere in Ireland. Treat them with respect and follow the usual rules and they are fine.

Bottle_of_Smoke

scratchyy wrote:

I was refused from Coppers on Saturday 24/02/07 greatest day ever there was four of us had each about three drinks on us, dressed in shirts, jeans shoes and jumpers. The queue was massive so we spent about 20 mins waitin to get in, we went in in groups of 2, the bouncer turned round to us and said "Sorry lads hold on there a second, i dont know your faces, your not regulars", Before we got to the door a group of 8 guys got in no questions asked, turned round to the bouncer and told him nicley where he can go and we left. how the **** can the bouncer turn round and say that, how can u ****ing become a regular if you cant get into the club. The other one is "not tonight boys", what ****ing night is it then so i can go out that night. Bouncers in this country are a joke, you can go to America at the age of 21 and go into any club you want to. PS i had a lot of money to spend that night

They won't give you a reason because if they do they might end up having to back it up. He didn't like the look of your group - could have been one of your haircuts. Could have been the colour of one of your shirts.

Also witha 20 min queue they can pick & choose who they want. Maybe you didnt look like you had a lot of money to spend. (In his opnion) I think they also randomly refuse people even if they think you look okay - when they refused you, others in the queue were bound to see you get refused, then if the bouncers needed to refuse someone else it would be easier to do.

It's really a load of **** but unfortunately there's nothing much can be done. Unless you can pull a good middle eastern accent & can find a secluded payphone

MiCr0

any more stupid suggestions like Bottle_of_Smoke's will be deleted and banned

scratchyy

So tell me this how come we can go up to a different well respected and decent club and go in with a group of four and get in no questions asked , we were all respectable dressed, how can they turn round and say they dont know your face as an excuse and then let a group of English guys in(no offense) with no questions asked, im sure the bouncer knows them personnally

InFront

I would agree with Nick on this one.

there is absolutely nothing to suggest it was race related, and there's no way he would get a settlement for this... i've been rejected from night clubs more times than i care to remember...especially six young lads going in together... and having everyone feeling sorry for you or afraid to put you out, for fear of being a "racist", people like you diminish the seriousness of genuine racist claims which should be punished, by crying wolf. It happens to us all, get over it, move on

I doubt you were the first Asian to walk up to that doorman, if he refused you entry it's because you were a large group of guys, there's nothing in your story to even suggest it was anything else. If the doorman had passed a comment to that effect maybe, but you don't mention one. Making unfounded racism claims just cheapens the seriousness of it when it really does happen.

GuanYin

Relax, you were 6 guys and there were probably a load of guys in there already, bouncers try to keep the clubs populated with more girls than guys.

As far as the race thing goes, neither I nor any of my friends or family had any issue getting into clubs anywhere in Ireland due to race.

As Azezil said, split into groups of 2-3 or bring some girls with you next time.

a.ndrea

Hi there,

First of all, so sorry that happened to you. It most definitely IS embarrassing, huh?

I live in Canada, and two days ago (Friday night), I went out with three of my friends -- two of them female, and all of which were of Asian descent.(I am not)

The legal age in Alberta (my province) is 18 to enter a bar/nightclub.

Like you and your friends, we waited in line just like everyone else, but when we got to the front, my male friend was told that he would not be allowed in because he was not 21. He is 20.
However, the bouncer said that the three of us girls (who were all 18) would be welcomed in.

We found this highly suspicious because a) it is sexually discriminatory to have different age regulations for males and females -- and also vaguely creepy. Are they looking to have a club full of young girls being preyed on by older men?!

And, b) he was Asian, and -- to put it delicately -- not aesthetically similar to the more muscular/douchey-looking white guys behind us. Read: the dude wasn't super hot.

c) I had gone to the same club on a Friday night a couple weeks before, that time with a friend who was tall, muscular, white, AND 19.
We had no trouble at all getting in.

The fact that he was refused entry is still bothering me greatly, because I KNOW that it was not SOLELY because he was 20 instead of 21.

I am in the process of finding out how to file a complaint with the Alberta Civil Rights Commission.

How dare these people think themselves fit to judge others on basis of gender, appearance, or ethnicity?!

What happened to you was wrong, which is amplified by the fact that the bouncer at "TIME" did not even attempt to cover up his racism/sexism -- just "not tonight, boys".

You are NOT alone, and I think that you should refuse to support clubs like this who try to decide whether you are "WORTHY" enough of partying with them! That's terrible and arrogant.

Needless to say, that club (it's called The Roadhouse) will not be getting my business anymore -- tell all your friends about "TIME" and how you felt about not being let in.

The only way that these clubs can keep discriminating is when we keep coming back again and again to let them.

Take care, God bless,
Andrea:pac: