System of a down concerts

gucci

system of a down are tourin europe this summer, of course their neglecting to come to ireland which is dissappointing but theres still tickets available for london and manchester in early june. me and some of my mates are heading on sunday 5th to see them in brixton academy,anyone ever see a concert there?

garthv

i saw SOAD a few years ago at ozzfest in punchestown.
i was totally blown away,its still one of the best gigs ive seen to this date

therecklessone

gucci wrote:

me and some of my mates are heading on sunday 5th to see them in brixton academy,anyone ever see a concert there?

Yes, Sepultura's final show with Max in 1996. And Grandaddy two years ago.

Great venue, like a bigger Ambassador. Holds 4000 or so, and much friendlier bouncers than over here.

Nea

I'm heading to Brixton tonight to see Rammstein,first time to see the venue and the band. Cant feckin wait!!!

Ph3n0m

GaRtH_V wrote:

i saw SOAD a few years ago at ozzfest in punchestown.
i was totally blown away,its still one of the best gigs ive seen to this date

hehehe that is strange, of all the acts on the main stage - them and Lostprophets were, IMO, the worst, a total mess

Shiminay

GaRtH_V wrote:

i saw SOAD a few years ago at ozzfest in punchestown.
i was totally blown away,its still one of the best gigs ive seen to this date

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to sound like a bastid, but that was possibly one of the worst live performances I've ever seen by any band. The band was pissed as funk and WAY out of time with each other - I was very disappointed - I've have considered myself a big fan of theirs until I saw that shocking display.

Slayer absolutely destroyed EVERYTHING else that day!

Ph3n0m

Kharn wrote:

Slayer absolutely destroyed EVERYTHING else that day!

Hear, hear - they should have finished, not Tool

OLDYELLAR

wow cool , i love system , how much are the tickets ??they rock my world , !!

Mr. CooL ICE

therecklessone wrote:

Yes, Sepultura's final show with Max in 1996

Now thats a damn good boast if ever ive heard one. Id do anything to have been there.

angelofdeath

slayer and system destroyed that day, tool were a major anticlimax, and that was the first time i heard/seen drowning pool and was blown away by them

therecklessone

LordChessington wrote:

Now thats a damn good boast if ever ive heard one. Id do anything to have been there.

The CD of that show doesn't do it justice. They were superb that night, which made the subsequent events all the more difficult to swallow.

Civilian_Target

Don't go to Brixton! Spend the extra €30 and go see them at the Hurricane Festival in ScheiBl, they're supporting Rammstein there...

garthv

Ph3n0m wrote:

Hear, hear - they should have finished, not Tool

Blaspehemer! Maynard James Keenan has got one of the best voices in rock music,they totally blew the crowd away!

bringitdown

Tool ruled ozzfest... end of.

I could hardly hear slayer apart from the whoosh of their hair!

However I agree tis a pity SOAD are not playing here.

Ph3n0m

GaRtH_V wrote:

Blaspehemer! Maynard James Keenan has got one of the best voices in rock music,they totally blew the crowd away!

really then it must have been my imagination that the crowd I was part of were quite bored of a guy painted blue, wearing underpants - but then again I never said anything about him being a crap singer

plus there wasnt that much of a crowd left, since the majority of sensible Dublinites had bogged back into the City Centre after Slayer, seeing as Ozzy wasnt playing

niallith

fatigued mayb ??? i was really lookin forward to seen tool , but after system i was totally wrecked, soad were by far best act. slayer were v good tho!
as were tool, was wrecked by that stage tho

garthv

yeh the crowd were'nt bored,they were just wrecked,after a whole day of mosihng to the likes of slayer and soad you hardly expect them to be up and ready for it

Töpher

Starting with Flood pissed alot of the non-fans off too I think, its not a very lively track. But for anyone that likes Tool, it was incredible! I wasn't really impressed by SOAD at it, pretty much lay back against the crowd behind me and relaxed!

Ph3n0m

GaRtH_V wrote:

yeh the crowd were'nt bored,they were just wrecked,after a whole day of mosihng to the likes of slayer and soad you hardly expect them to be up and ready for it

yeah right, and I am sure if Ozzy came out they would have just remained at a standstill like they were for Tool - c'mon - the majority of Ozzfest goers will tell you that the wrong band finished the day off

OLDYELLAR

Oh my god supporting Rammstein.that would be so cool!!

projectmayhem

hmmm... soad & rammstein, in one day. quite enticing indeed...

i saw them at ozzfest and they were on of my favourites. i got sick of the waves of hair flying around in the pit during slayer so i went to see an amazing mushroomhead set

OLDYELLAR

system and rammstein would be class

0utshined

gucci wrote:

me and some of my mates are heading on sunday 5th to see them in brixton academy,anyone ever see a concert there?

Yeah, I've been to a few gigs there and it was a good venue. It's got a sloped floor as well IIRC so everyone gets a good view.

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OLDYELLAR

Ou ive wanted to see system since forever ,

gucci

was on the site today.alll london dates sold out now,still a few for manchester though

OLDYELLAR

Aww i wanted london , maybe could a got a holiday out of it then , dont wanna go manchester though ,

Civilian_Target

OLDYELLAR wrote:

system and rammstein would be class

System and Rammstein *will* be class

OLDYELLAR

heh yea tis true , would rammstein be supporting em in paris ?

projectmayhem

i know this is about soad... but it's slowly morphing into a rammstein thread so....

is it true that a few years ago (during the "mutter" tour) rammstein were banned from coming here because of their live show, by the same nuns and old hags who banned slipknot?

i'd like to see rammstein tear up the point or something over here...

Ph3n0m

projectmayhem wrote:

i know this is about soad... but it's slowly morphing into a rammstein thread so....

is it true that a few years ago (during the "mutter" tour) rammstein were banned from coming here because of their live show, by the same nuns and old hags who banned slipknot?

i'd like to see rammstein tear up the point or something over here...

that never happened, that was the story MCD claimed happened - what really happened was disastrous ticket sales for Slipknot

OLDYELLAR

Rammstein are meant to be absolutely insane live , doing all kinds o mad stunts

Skip

Any info online about SOAD's tour dates in Europe?

OLDYELLAR

all the dates are on their site , www.systemofadown.com , its under reconstruction so jus go to news they all listed there

projectmayhem

Ph3n0m wrote:

that never happened, that was the story MCD claimed happened - what really happened was disastrous ticket sales for Slipknot

really? i would have thought slipknot's show would have sold out no problem, given the concert was at the peak of their popularity (when they were fresh)... i remember being so disappointed when i had to bring back my ticket to get a refund

Ph3n0m

but their popularity was over in america, not over here. plenty of "new" bands try to come to Ireland, only to fail miserably - nothing to be ashamed of, unless you are a boy band

Shiminay

I'm asbsolutely stunned by this thread.

There are actually people who think what System of a Down did at Ozzfest was a good show? I've seen wedding bands that were tighter and posessed far more ability to play their instruments. The only time they were any good was when the guitar player did his little Sultans of Swing bit. Honestly lads and ladies, I'm not trying to have a go, but if you thought that was good, then you really need to go to some proper gigs (anything - not just metal). It was an absolute disgrace and it shows what SOAD thought of playing in Ireland if they didn't even have enough respect to keep their heads together enough to play a decent set.

As for the Tool debate - I'm not a big fan of Tool, but there's a big place I the world for them and I certainly have huge respect for them, but it was the wrong sort of band and show to end that day on. Metallers need to get heavier and heavier and madder and madder and when you're so hyped up you want to slaughter the contents of the nearest old folks home (or creche) - BANG! - slow drawn out stuff - WHAT?!!??! All the old skool (that hadn't just turned around when they heard about Ozzy) had fupped off after Slayer and of the remaining thousands (only about 2/3 the original crowd left at that stage of the evening), I'd say about half were happy with Tool - other's just went home.

Again I say, Slayer were the perfect band to finish the day - they finished the day for me. I had no interest in the Tool experience - neither did my mates.

The thing is - Ireland - too few in the music industry really care about our small little country cause they don't make anywhere near as much money out of us as others (we have only ourselves to blame - we allowed Louis Walsh to live) - the evidence was there when Mr Osbourne didn't even come over to wave to the fans and apologise in person - he was too busy having the craic at home in England.

But seriously, trust me on System - go to your local metal band's next gig and see - anything would be better than what they played. As I said previously, I would have considered myself a big fan of theirs and to have borne witness to that farce left a very bitter taste in my mouth. Never listen to them now (and I still lash on my Oasis CDs occasionally from when I listened to them nearly 10 years ago).

senordingdong

niallith wrote:

soad were by far best act. slayer were v good tho!

Are you for real pal!?!?
The best act of that day was by far Drowning Pool.
That band had everythign you could want from a show, great music, talented musicians who had their **** together and uttely fantastic stage presence, one that I have only ever seen bested by Corey Taylor.
The only thing lacking was a decent light show, but with an outdoor day gig we couldn't expect much.

As for Slayer, I'm a big fan of Slayer, but at an oudoor gig, they are about as entertaining as listening to one of their c.d.'s. A good performance all the same though...just not the best of the day.

S.O.A.D. were a bit of a let down I felt.I liek them as much as anybody esle but their show was so bare. Don't know what yer man was sayign about them not having their **** together...I believe they had their **** together, just that it sounded very bare.

As to settle the other debates...
Rammstein were not banned from playing here, a gig has never been booked because there simply isn't enoguh demand for one.
You may have been confusing this with a gig they were to do somewhere in England when they were told to ditch a **** load of their pyrotechnics or they would be arrested as terrorists.

The Slipknot gig here did not suffer poor ticket sales by any means...the tickets sold at a decent enough rate, the gig was cancelled as the promoters backed out because of the complaints they were getting from the 'parents association'.

OLDYELLAR

I wish i could of went ,,,,,but im really hoping to see system this summer

projectmayhem

senordingdong wrote:

Are you for real pal!?!?
The best act of that day was by far Drowning Pool.
That band had everythign you could want from a show, great music, talented musicians who had their **** together and uttely fantastic stage presence, one that I have only ever seen bested by Corey Taylor.
The only thing lacking was a decent light show, but with an outdoor day gig we couldn't expect much.

i wasn't a big fan of drowning pool (i had heard the singles though), but thought they were excellent on the day. as were ill nino. the guy from dp coming out to do "primitive" (i think) was quite a nice touch. bought their album and was disappointed... but i disagree on the stage precense thing. they don't come close to the same kind of stage presence that slipknot have...

senordingdong

projectmayhem wrote:

but i disagree on the stage precense thing. they don't come close to the same kind of stage presence that slipknot have...

...that's why I said Corey is the only man that has bested Dave Williams.
Though you have to admit that Drowning Pool had the bets stage peresence of all the bands that played that day.

Ph3n0m

senordingdong wrote:

The Slipknot gig here did not suffer poor ticket sales by any means...the tickets sold at a decent enough rate, the gig was cancelled as the promoters backed out because of the complaints they were getting from the 'parents association'.

I hate to correct you, but the concert was not cancelled because of the parents association, it was due to poor ticket sales - the parents association excuse was something that MCD ran with to cover the poor sales - I mean if that was the case about this "Parents Association" getting Slipknot cancelled - why didnt they get them cancelled when the supported Metallica?

OLDYELLAR

ou i was there metallica and system fannytastic!

senordingdong

Ph3n0m wrote:

I hate to correct you, but the concert was not cancelled because of the parents association, it was due to poor ticket sales - the parents association excuse was something that MCD ran with to cover the poor sales - I mean if that was the case about this "Parents Association" getting Slipknot cancelled - why didnt they get them cancelled when the supported Metallica?

Well I hate to correct you but...the concert was not cancelled because of ticket sales, that's the statement that MCD themselves released.
All the posters had been covered over with banners saying 'cancelled due to lack of demand.'

But you are right in one part, the 'Parents Association' did not get it cancelled..heck they shouldn't even have been involved as it was an over eighteens gig...so I researched this myself.
They simply complained enough untill MCD backed out.
The reason Slipknot weren't cancelled at Metallica was quite simply because Aiken Promotions were incharge of that and they saw the money that could be made.

Also, there were legions of Slipknot fans amongst the 35,000 people at Metallica, a decent proportion to hold a gig in the Point.

Anyway...Sliknot themselves released a statement on their website a month after explaining what had happened, and they themselves gave the same story about the 'Parents Association.'
If there had been poor ticket sales then they would have simply changed the venue.

Shiminay

senordingdong wrote:

Anyway...Sliknot themselves released a statement on their website a month after explaining what had happened, and they themselves gave the same story about the 'Parents Association.'
If there had been poor ticket sales then they would have simply changed the venue.

Yes, a band as well marketed as Slipknot is going to publicly say "we suck so much we can't sell a big show in Ireland and our record company won't let us play a small venue for the fans cause we love them so much"...

:rolleyes: Cop yourself on. It should have said, "Thanks MCD for giving us a good excuse for not having to go to that small country where it pisses rain and they can't afford to buy our CDs."

Don't get me wrong, there's a place in my world for Slipknot, but they've fallen from grace as far as I'm concerned - dump Corey Taylor and them clown and long nose funk wits and become the savage metal band the world wants them to be! Ever hear Joey Jordison's early band Anal Blast? It's frighteningly good stuff!

Ph3n0m

Kharn wrote:

Ever hear Joey Jordison's early band Anal Blast? It's frighteningly good stuff!

Aye and ever heard of Joey playing with Metallica when Lars was ill during Download - superb stuff - and he made a mockery of what Lars used to do, by making its/sounding 10 times better


and senordingdong - I would love to see proof of your investigation, please prove me wrong about the following - I mean you do admit

"All the posters had been covered over with banners saying 'cancelled due to lack of demand.'"


Because I did aquick search and there is no single parents association - there are a number of different associations and council within the Dublin area alone - so which one was it then?

Tar.Aldarion

slipknot unpopular? I never!!! when i saw them at metallica ppl werent really expecting much from them but about 5 seconds in the whole crowd fukin loved em.when we all got down on the ground for heritic anthem omg!

and anyway system gigs,come to download festival in donnington june 10th to 12th first to days are eh ok black sabbath etc but day 3 owns;System of a down, slipknot and slayer.This will be the best concert ive been to if you dont want to go to that go to furyfest in france about 25th of june with about 90 or so metal bands enjoy see yee there etc.

Tool finishing ozzfest is lol they should have played first cos after soad(even if they didnt live up to expectations) and slayer im afraid they couldnt expect the crowd to be psyched up.if they played first all the better.build up to Angel of Death and Raining Blood i say!

Matthewthebig

Its for Spit it Out that you "Get The F.uck Down"

I really want to see System of a Down but alas forces conspiring against me mean i cannot!

honru

The funny thing is Slipknot managed to play Belfast's Odessey Arena (which is significantly larger than the Point) a year or two later.

senordingdong

f®eak s&#169 wrote: »

The funny thing is Slipknot managed to play Belfast's Odessey Arena (which is significantly larger than the Point) a year or two later.

No it doesn't, I was at that gig, the odyssey would hold about one third of what the point can hold.

Ph3n0m-I will admit that I only saw once poster with the banner pasted over it.
And don't expect me to have hard proof of what happend 5years ago.

I believe it was the Catholics Parents Association of Ireland.
I'm not 100% sure but I could check it out if it really matters to you.

Two friends of mind wrote to them asking why they had the gig cancelled.
In the reply, the writer stated that they didn't get it cancelled as they don't have the power, but that they protested about some of the rules and the promoters backed out.

Shiminay

Slipknot were the last band to play at Fury Fest last year and they were booed and bottled off the stage - goes to show you what the more "in-depth" metal fans think of them - by that I mean Metallica are popular in the main-stream - lots of non-metallers love them and would go to see them. Those people were thankfully lacking at Fury Fest. Face it, Slipknot have no credibility or respect amongst the people they claim to be writting their music for.

As for Joey playing for Lars - not trying to take away from Mr Jordison (I think he's absolutely mental), I could replace Lars and do a better job ffs :rolleyes: He's one of the worst drummers in metal - but that's another debate for another thread.

senordingdong

Kharn wrote:

Slipknot were the last band to play at Fury Fest last year and they were booed and bottled off the stage - goes to show you what the more "in-depth" metal fans think of them -

That's irrelevant, even though I don't beleive it.