Do you copy DVDs?

The General

I dont think this would be against rules, i just wanna know how many of you copy/burn DVD movies, ps2 and xbox games, just curious

ps i dont wanna know anything about the procedure etc because id say thats against rules

aidan_walsh

No.

Infini

I have myself because of the disks getting scratched and some not reading right.

Spacedog

oh hell yeah, free stuff rocks!

D!ve^Bomb!

I HATE watching any kind of pirated movies because it just ruins the experience of watchin the film in the first place.. no matter how good a copy it is it's still not going to have its flaws compared to a proper DVD..

[Jackass]

If i could....I would do all of the above......

rainbow kirby

no, but if I had a DVD burner...

fred funk }{

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

I HATE watching any kind of pirated movies because it just ruins the experience of watchin the film in the first place.. no matter how good a copy it is it's still not going to have its flaws compared to a proper DVD..

What DVD's do you watch? Any discs i copy are full dvd quality.They are the very same as the originals.
There are lots of programmes out there that will rip the disc and give you full control over the content to be burned....(trailers, extras etc)
Commercial dvd's are duel layer and are about 9G most consumer discs are 4.7G and if the disc is burned straight onto the copy you will get some reduction in quailty.
Most pirate dvd's bought from dodgie blokes at your front door are very bad this is because the original is from a camcorder in the cinema in most cases.

samo

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

I HATE watching any kind of pirated movies because it just ruins the experience of watchin the film in the first place.. no matter how good a copy it is it's still not going to have its flaws compared to a proper DVD..

would agree with that, if its something copied with a camcorder from the movies. Have been give a copy of meet the Fockers and as much as I really want to see it, know I wont enjoy the film if I see it this way!

So, its been consigned to a cupboard somewhere where it can stay until I see it in the cinema!

The_Conductor

Personally I copy any new games or DVDs I buy- as insurance against the bloody things getting scratched...... I have a stack of coasters here- including some of my favourite games that I used come back to again and again (Colonisation/ Civ 2 and 3 etc for example). Once you have paid for the disk, I believe there is nothing fundamentally wrong with making a "personal copy" of the disk as insurance against future mishaps.

S.

snappieT

I make backups of my disks to play, the actual disk gets re-sealed and stored elsewhere.

Also, if the film is short, I'll put 2/3 onto 1 disk to save time, taking out all the menus and special features.

NEVER FOR PROFIT

Pet

I usually rip DVDs to my hard drive and compress them, but only for personal use.

Matthewthebig

I only copy cds off my mates but i don't sell any. Unlike my friend who sells cds and dvd's in school

The General

i myself usually copy some DVD's i get a loan of off friends havent got many though

ViperVenoM

Spacedog wrote:

oh hell yeah, free stuff rocks!

^^ bingo

Lump

I copy just to get rid of that annoying COpyright theft Message at the start of EVERY DVD. It's on for like 20 minutes on some discs. If they got rid of that I probably wouldn't download/copy as much.

Oh and I'm being serious... It really gets on my tits.

John

John R

A mate of mine spends most of his paycheck on cds dvds and games, to redress the balance I spend a tiny fraction of my cash on blank discs and copy all of his stuff. All in the name of justice of course. Some months he does not buy enough stuff that I like so I then go online and download some content instead, just to maintain the status-quo.

Infini

Well to be realistic its OK to copy something for yourself. Its not going to hurt anybody to make say a personal backup or get a copy of a friends one. Besides its only wrong to SELL a copy in my opinion as thats being scabby.

MisterAnarchy

I copy most films I rent and swap people for others.
I have about 400 films on DVD .
I have them all in DVD cases with printed covers .
As for the people who say the quality of Pirate films is poor ,they dont know what they are talking about.

samo

I bought 4 pirates off guys on a market stall in Balbriggan today (only one was for me now to be honest!) had a little look at them - the quality of them all were crap - really really dodgy and has been said before completely ruins the experience of the film.

But for people who buy a proper dvd, copy it as back up or whatever or even make a copy for a friend - I dont see a massive problem, its your property,do what you like!

Made my mind up today that I aint buying anything dodgy off those fella's in Balbriggan market again! Just not worth it, would rather buy it off cdwow or whatever when it comes out properly!

Lump

MisterAnarchy wrote:

I copy most films I rent and swap people for others.
I have about 400 films on DVD .
I have them all in DVD cases with printed covers .
As for the people who say the quality of Pirate films is poor ,they dont know what they are talking about.

Not everyone that makes the copies know what they are doing with a pc. They're normally gangsters. However when making your own copies, like this thread suggest they are of the same quality.


John

jimmycrackcorm

MisterAnarchy wrote:

As for the people who say the quality of Pirate films is poor ,they dont know what they are talking about.

You mean those copied screeners are good quality? - I think not. I bought a copy of troy which was a screener. The quality was total crap. When I saw the trailer on TV - I wished I had waited for the real thig instead.


Copies from DVDs areperfect though - even when shrunk to single layer. I even do the printed covers and labels so that it is impossible to tellfrom an original. Ink is expensive though - that's the key cost.

boo4842

I have loads of movies on Div-x that I've downloaded and a fair bit of music.

I don't sell anything for money, and would never support those that do. The quality is ****e for some of them, but the quality of the movies themselves are worse. I don't feel guilty about it since most of the time it saves me dropping a LOT of money on absolute tripe that comes out now a days. If I really like a movie I might buy the full version DVD, but I wouldn't rent it or see it in the theatres unless its a movie I have to see. LOTR / Matrix etc.

Music - same deal. I used to buy 2 Cd's a week, every week for years. Often just to get one song. Such a waste of money, as I've spent thousands over the years to get less than what I'm getting now.

bounty

cams and screeners are a waste of time

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

I HATE watching any kind of pirated movies because it just ruins the experience of watchin the film in the first place.. no matter how good a copy it is it's still not going to have its flaws compared to a proper DVD..

pff, this guy doesnt know ****, retail copys are perfect :rolleyes:

screw you do-goodie care-bears who think dvd piracy is wrong

skywalker

D!ve^Bomb! wrote:

I HATE watching any kind of pirated movies because it just ruins the experience of watchin the film in the first place.. no matter how good a copy it is it's still not going to have its flaws compared to a proper DVD..

you seem be talking about divx screeners which isnt whats being talked about here, if your saying you notice the difference between an original dvd and a copyed dvdr then you really dont know what your talking about.

A Dub in Glasgo

DVD copies from a DVD are perfect. You would be pushed to notice the difference unless it was heavily compressed to fir onto a single layered disc and you are watching it on a big screen. Most new DVD burners and blank discs are dual layered now.

I have bought 300 legitimate DVDs but now I have signed up to an online rental service and I copy the DVDs.

I will not sell copies at all and some scammers even try and advertise pirate as legitimate. There are a lot of these DVDs on ebay advertised as legitimate DVDs.

I would never buy copied screener as generally they are rubbish.

RE*AC*TOR

Used to copy DVDs a bit. The aul rent and copy trick. But I find its much more economically viable if I just download the movies and burn em to DVD.

D!ve^Bomb!

bounty wrote:

cams and screeners are a waste of time



pff, this guy doesnt know ****, retail copys are perfect :rolleyes:

screw you do-goodie care-bears who think dvd piracy is wrong

it's pretty fúckin obvious i wasn't talkin about retail copies isn't it.. dumbass

koneko

A Dub in Glasgo wrote:

Most new DVD burners and blank discs are dual layered now.

single layer DVD-R... roughly 25 cents upwards
dual layer DVD-R (+R)... roughly 5 euros upwards

Remove the extras and recompress the video (automatic with software like CloneDVD), most people won't notice the difference.

This topic will probably get closed. There is no "fair use" policy with DVDs that allows you to make a back-up, copying DVDs is illegal even if you own the original (afaik).

aidan_dunne

koneko wrote:

There is no "fair use" policy with DVDs that allows you to make a back-up, copying DVDs is illegal even if you own the original (afaik).

Yes, and that's a pile of ****, to be honest. Another way for the average Joe Soap consumer to be screwed over again by the big fat-cat movie companies. What happens if you pay €25 or more for a DVD and it ends up getting damaged in some way? "Oh, sorry mate, you're just going to have to buy another copy, I'm afraid." F**k that for a game of soldiers, I say. I paid good money for that DVD, Mr.-Big-Movie-Studio-Executive, I should be able to make a backup copy of it for myself if I feel like it. Hell, I bought the damn thing, out of my own money, I should be able to stick it in a f**king microwave and nuke the bastard to pieces if I feel like it.

Remember kids, piracy makes baby Jeebus cry, but making backups of your own, legitimate DVDs to prevent damage, etc., is A-OK. And f**k what the movie studios say!

fade2black

To be honest I like to own the original DVDs because the quality is perfect but more importantly for me I like to stack them on the shelves like books and show them off to the world. There's nothing pretty about a copied DVD.
Im not on any moral highground though, id watch a copied DVD or pirate but I think I spend so much money on DVDs that I have nothing to feel guilty about. It's the same with downloading music. To hell with these people who go on about..you must pay for your songs...Shut up...I own thousands and thousands of original cds and i've paid through the nose (and I will continue to do so) for them so my conscience is clear when I download a new track that has yet to come out on single.
I know Imight be digressing from the thread title but I'm a DJ and the only way you can compete with the DJs that work for a radio station and have all the tunes before they're released is to download them. THats my two cents.

John R

fade2black wrote:

To be honest I like to own the original DVDs because the quality is perfect but more importantly for me I like to stack them on the shelves like books and show them off to the world. There's nothing pretty about a copied DVD.

There is however something very pretty about a nice neat stack of twenty euro notes stacked in my wallet rather than a big grubby pile of evil monochrome dollars in the claw of a movie studio exec.

fade2black wrote:

Im not on any moral highground though, id watch a copied DVD or pirate but I think I spend so much money on DVDs that I have nothing to feel guilty about. It's the same with downloading music. To hell with these people who go on about..you must pay for your songs...Shut up...I own thousands and thousands of original cds and i've paid through the nose (and I will continue to do so) for them so my conscience is clear when I download a new track that has yet to come out on single.
I know Imight be digressing from the thread title but I'm a DJ and the only way you can compete with the DJs that work for a radio station and have all the tunes before they're released is to download them. THats my two cents.

Considering how many promo copies of cds there are given away it's no wonder they are charging exorbitant amounts to consumers.

jimmycrackcorm

fade2black wrote:

To be honest I like to own the original DVDs because the quality is perfect but more importantly for me I like to stack them on the shelves like books and show them off to the world. There's nothing pretty about a copied DVD.

I too like a bookshelf full of dvds.

when I copy them, I print out the covers also downloaded from a well known covers site. On my new epson photo printer they print perfectly and you would be very hard put to tell the difference. I use glossy photo paper (very cheap now) and compatible inks from the uk.

Thing is I'd never buy a dvd even before I could copy them. I just like the bookshelf of them and maybe watch an odd one. Its a decor thing :-)

The_Conductor

Why don't you go uncapped?
I have a 40Gb cap with NTL- but they have said they never enforce it......

RE*AC*TOR

foalteam wrote:

Problem with that though Reactor is that the only place you can get the "real" format i.e. .vob files is on Torrent and the download time/size both suck when you're on a 4 Gig downlad cap. Do you use Torrent for this or do you download them in Divx format?

newsgroups are your friend.
I don't have a cap problem.
It takes me about 25 mins to download 5GB

The_Conductor

foalteam wrote:

2 reasons. a) I'm renting at the moment and don't think I could change over to NTL easily without hastling the Landlord though I know him fairly well.... hmmm methinks :rolleyes:
b)Are they expensive and do they do complete packages, as in : Broadband and Digital tv?

1 Giga connection for 35 Euro per month, with free installation and first three months free. Regular cable (17 channels) is another 20 a month on top of this- so 55 a month for an uncapped 1Gb connection and cable tv.... Didn't see any point in taking their Digital package- I mostly watch terrestial anyway (and any of the more unusual stuff I watch would hardly be likely to be on NTL digital )

rubadub

RE*AC*TOR wrote:

newsgroups are your friend.
I don't have a cap problem.
It takes me about 25 mins to download 5GB

is there anywhere can you get movies without loading up p2p software?
like that "secret" google search thing for mp3s

RE*AC*TOR

foalteam wrote:

Now see I heard that before and looked into it a little bit but there seemed to be a hell of a lot of reading up about it involoved and it also seemed that you had to pay to join a newsgroup and I don't possess a credit card. Just seemed like major hastle I thought. Was I missing something or can you PM me a link to explain it all by any chance? Idiots guide . Pwetty pwease

Here's an intro to newsgroups...

http://www.slyck.com/ng.php

IANOC

with a €1000 fine per disc copied id say definately not!!

Chalk

IANOC wrote:

with a €1000 fine per disc copied id say definately not!!

dont tell fact that your doing it and theyll probably never knwo......

IANOC

Chalk wrote:

dont tell fact that your doing it and theyll probably never knwo......

well fact is also a rat line too
but i think just being caught with a copied dvd warrants that fine :eek:

Lump

IANOC wrote:

with a €1000 fine per disc copied id say definately not!!

Well I'm safe then.... I only have one disk.... my hard drive!

John

pickarooney

Not that anyone cares, but a screener is a DVD released to reviewers before the film goes to the cinema. When you get a copy of one, be it in VOB or MPEG4 (DivX/Xvid etc.) it's recognisable by the copyright message which appears at regular intervals during the film. As opposed to a cam release, which is filmed in the cinema and is gubbins, or a TeleSync which is copied as it comes off the reel, and is also pretty muck.

RE*AC*TOR

pickarooney wrote:

Not that anyone cares, but a screener is a DVD released to reviewers before the film goes to the cinema. When you get a copy of one, be it in VOB or MPEG4 (DivX/Xvid etc.) it's recognisable by the copyright message which appears at regular intervals during the film. As opposed to a cam release, which is filmed in the cinema and is gubbins, or a TeleSync which is copied as it comes off the reel, and is also pretty muck.

What a random thing to say

segadreamcast

Yeah I saw this during 'Shattered Glass' before...

I was going to buy it when it came out on DVD though - so I didn't mind watching the borrowed pirate.