Scientology

Stephen

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/19071.html

I can't believe what I read on the above page. America talks about being the cradle of democracy and liberty in the modern world, and they attempt to jail someone for criticising a glorified cult!?

Talk about hypocrasy (sp?)

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- Munch

androphobic

scientologists brought me up to their office on lower (upper? - the one with the side entrance to easons..) abbey street and made me buy their book.
don't ask why i went.. i'm dumb and naive.

it was quite scary.

chernobyl

Tom Cruise is a member of the church of scientology and "donates" half his salary to them.

religion man is just a control mechanism.

dogs

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religion man is just a control mechanism.
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So are cattle-prods. Both are more effective when you're on your knees too.

DeVore

Two quotes:

Religion is an opiate for the masses.

Poor is the man who's pleasures depend on the permission of another.

DeV.

Stephen

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chernobyl:
Tom Cruise is a member of the church of scientology and "donates" half his salary to them.

religion man is just a control mechanism.</font>

A number of other top Hollywood figures are also supporters of L. Ron Hubbard's "religion" (its a fvcking cult), such as John Travolta, who even made a (flop) movie based on one of Hubbard's ramblings - Battlefield: Earth I think it was.

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- Munch

Miguel_Sanchez

I have but one thing to say:


Nah - nah - nah - nah - nah - nah - nah - nah..... BATMAN.... I mean LEADER!!!!

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I'm the Dude

Manach

"A man's religion is his own business" - Marx also

Jim Daniels

I think Beck, of all people, has recently joined up. Winnona Ryder has dumped him because of it. So they say anyway...

Yossarian

"He may look like an idiot, and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot." - Marx, Groucho.


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JustHalf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
scientologists brought me up to their office on lower (upper? - the one with the side entrance to easons..) abbey street and made me buy their book.
don't ask why i went.. i'm dumb and naive.
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I'm not going to ask you why you went, but why did you buy the book?

Hobbes

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JustHalf:
I'm not going to ask you why you went, but why did you buy the book?
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http://www.boards.ie/bulletin/Forum15/HTML/000270.html

Read my second post.

androphobic

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JustHalf:
I'm not going to ask you why you went, but why did you buy the book?

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I just read Hobbes post on the other thread .. and his experience was pretty much identical to mine except he went one step further.

Basically the book cost 5 pounds and if I didn't buy the book I wasn't gonna get to leave for a lonnng time. There was a guy at the door, just standing there. There was another guy talking to some man who had followed him in but seemed quite interested in the subject, and then there was the guy who had brought me in, and moi.

The room was lined with book cases with this book - Dianetics by Lron Hubbard. Thinking about it now, I also gave them my name, address and tel (mobile) number. Oh God.

I'm 18, female and quite petite and this guy was towering over me in this office, asking me weird questions about my feelings, to which I gave monosyllabic answers. I was quite taken aback and basically the easiest thing to do was to buy the book.. so I did.

Mine doesn't have two chapter 11's as far as I can see, Hobbes.

Last time I was on that street the Scientologists seemed to have moved out of the office.. and they've never contacted me, thankfully.

Okay end of my story ..


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JustHalf

I can just imagine it Hobbes... "I'm sorry, my book is broken..."

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
There was a guy at the door, just standing there. There was another guy talking to some man who had followed him in but seemed quite interested in the subject, and then there was the guy who had brought me in, and moi.</font>

Did you feel as though you wouldn't be allowed leave if you wanted?

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
Thinking about it now, I also gave them my name, address and tel (mobile) number. Oh God. </font>

Did your parents ever tell you anything about strangers?

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
Last time I was on that street the Scientologists seemed to have moved out of the office.. and they've never contacted me, thankfully.</font>

Curses. I've always wanted to talk to these people.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
Okay end of my story .. </font>

Or do this mean you don't want to talk about it anymore?

Magwitch

Scientology only declared itself a churh after a congressional inquiry was launched into their finances and pratices. Accountants donned dog colors and hey preto! a hurch was born.

L. Ron Hubburb, the poor untalanted hack, disowned scientlogy before his eath condemning them as con-artists. BUt they still own the copy right to his work and have gone to great lenghts to cover up (by purchasing) everything negetive he wrote about them.

Germany (now this gets funny) has banned scientology members from taking state jobs or serving in any public state role. Reason: Its a cult deemed dangerous and subversive to the state.

Scientology posted adverts in peominent news papers world wide with pictures of Cruise and Goldie Hawn and a cast of other hollywood heads with text the claimed the German action was simular to how theytreated the jews. The jews WENT NUTS! The whole thing back fired and the Jewish lobby through their considerable weight behind the German Government. Debate over, scientlogy lost.

And "Battlefield Earth" written by Hubbard was financed by Scientology (Travolta is one), who spend millions buying cinema tickets to insure its success. $200 million plus later they are still counting the cost of tha turkey, not to mention the cost of the cinema tickets (ha ha).

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Keep your powder dry and your pants moist

Evil Phil

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
I'm 18, female and quite petite... </font>

Can I have your name, address and telephone number? (only joking! )

I have a post on the same thread that Hobbes links to above, my experience of the office on Abbey St. was similar. They pretty much try to make you feel small and insecure then give you a way out through them. Not a good thing.

Excelsior

Scientology Man:
"Would you like a free personality test?"

Me:
"Sure! But it'll cost ya!"

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My Adolescent website:
http://www.iol.net/~mullent

Vokes

where can i buy this book
im not messing
i genuinely want to read it cos im curious

Hobbes

I would be wary of buying the book at any place that requires your name+address.

You have been warned.

JustHalf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Hobbes:
It's a cult. Don't under estimate the power of a cult. If you think you can't be taken in by one then your a prime candidate. </font>

I don't think I'd be taken in by them as I'd be actively looking for them to make fun of any obvious (or subtle) techniques used to sway my opinion!

Hobbes

http://website.lineone.net/~allan.hand/rc3.html

Megatron

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evil Phil:
They pretty much try to make you feel small and insecure then give you a way out through them. Not a good thing.</font>

A friend of mine went in and took some test ... they guy who was marking it came and asked him was he deliberly trying to anoy him !!!! apartly he had the strangest result !!!!!! i'd personaly love to see how they would handle me and my personality .. probably like most other people ... with a big stick !!!!

as for saying it wouldn't work on me and then being a prime candidate i dont' think that would work .... i've got too much invested in my own personality for anyone to start messing around with it .

still they are a bit strange .. i personaly like Holy Mary ( O'connell st.) pitty she is gone now always enjoyed her targeting little nippers ( 13 -15) and trying to put the fear of god into them ...

well before i go completely off topic i'll go.


Later Skaters

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No !!!!! I will crush you with my Bare hands.
P.S. Avator fromerly know as Gamblor !!

Hobbes

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Megatron:
apprantly he had the strangest result !!
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The test is designed to give a bad profile regardless of what you answer.

However there is a "Perfect" score in the test which can only be done by lying. The answers to the test are on the net somewhere. It's possible he hit that, or near to it. As when they see that they tend to believe that your a plant rather then someone they can convert.

D-Generate

The test will allways say you need help with your personality for a better living.

Anyway I was in The Scientoligist Capital of the world in Clearwater, Florida.
Over there you can pick up the book for free pity the box containing them all was empty and the only way you could get one was to go in to their "church"(brainwashing room) which i wasn't going to do me being 14 and easily persuaded.
But I did sign up on a sheet with my name, age, address etc....... and about twice a year i receive a news letter telling me about how i need help, next time i will get one i will post the information here should it be significant.

androphobic

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JustHalf:

Did you feel as though you wouldn't be allowed leave if you wanted?
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Sort of. I bought the book to get out.. it was quite intimidating..

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JustHalf:
Did your parents ever tell you anything about strangers? </font>

hehehe ;p

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JustHalf:
Or do this mean you don't want to talk about it anymore? </font>

depends what ya wanna know.

androphobic

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evil Phil:
They pretty much try to make you feel small and insecure then give you a way out through them. Not a good thing.</font>

*grin*

Yea, they do.. pretty intimdating although the guy was quite nice.. just really really intense..




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TwoShedsJackson

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
Thinking about it now, I also gave them my name, address and tel (mobile) number. Oh God. </font>

It could have been worse - you could have given those details to the Socialist Workers Party

Hobbes

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JustHalf:
Did you feel as though you wouldn't be allowed leave if you wanted?</font>

It's a cult. Don't under estimate the power of a cult. If you think you can't be taken in by one then your a prime candidate.

A lot of what happend in the interview alone (which I wasn't expecting) is detailed in thier first book including ways to make the person your interrogating ill at ease.

But the book is crap otherwise.

JustHalf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
depends what ya wanna know. </font>

Well, I've got a few questions I need to ask you. Would you like to take the time to answer them? :>

androphobic

ahh since you asked so nicely.. shoot.

JustHalf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
ahh since you asked so nicely.. shoot.
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Do you make thoughtless remarks or accusations which later you regret? +/?/-

JustHalf

And just in case someone from "somewhere" goes bananas and tries to get the suits after me, I believe that this quotation is under the terms of fair use under the copyright laws of the EU.

Paladin

*BLAM*

Sorry I just felt like that. If only I could get a gun.....

Actually scientology is a very weird thing to be a "religion". Very.

Koopa

hahaha, 2 scientologists (i think they were, anyway) came up to me once in st. stephens green, asking me if i would take a leaflet or something, i nearly told them to **** off (haha) but instead just no, they were persistent though, and asked if i believed in religion or not, at this point i just said no i didnt, then one of them said something about whether i would reconsider if i knew id be damned for ever if i didnt, i said "no, i dont care", and walked off without bothering to see if they were going to come up with a response or not, i dont see how they could keep that conversation alive at that point actually, without looking really stupid in public, walking backwards while talking to me, haha

androphobic

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JustHalf:

Do you make thoughtless remarks or accusations which later you regret? +/?/-</font>

erm. what?

Hobbes

My favorite was...

Do you consider yourself indecisive? +/?/-

Paladin

I used to be indecisive, but now Im not so sure.

JustHalf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
erm. what?</font>

It's from the Scientology test. I found it on their website.

androphobic

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JustHalf:
It's from the Scientology test. I found it on their website.</font>

ahh i getcha.

androphobic

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JustHalf:
No problem. Can I ask you some more? </font>

Do you just want me to take the test or sommat?

JustHalf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
Do you just want me to take the test or sommat? :}</font>

Was the test that riveting the first time?

Stephen

Get a room

logic1

Well I have to say I'm sorry the scientologists haven't called your house every goddamn day of your life. You couldn't say no and walk out of a room of religion loving pacifists? Jesus how do you not get beaten up more. Utter retardness.

.logic.

androphobic

As I said before, I know it sounds stupid now, but at the time the guy was extremely intense and there was another guy standing at the door.. the easiest thing was to buy the book. Other people have said this too.

Who knows, might read the whole thing some day..

logic1

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">"The guy was extremly intense"</font>

WTF!!! jesus he was talking about religion and saving your soul.. the only dangerous guys that talk about religion are wineos and serial killers neither of which are into scientology (afaik)
Theres one born every second

.logic.

Celt

logic, pls stop it, your just being moronic now.

logic1

Well whitelancer if we were to Judge your intelligence by the quality of your posts I certainly would have come to the assumption that you have some sort of mental handicap. Now whenever you'd like to stop being a tool and simply spamming every forum you can with pointless trolls that'd be much appreciated. Cheerio love.

.logic.

JustHalf

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by androphobic:
ahh i getcha.</font>

No problem. Can I ask you some more?

Hobbes

No Logic, really. Your being a moron.

As I said before, if you think your so strong then odds on your prime material for induction.

logic1

Well Hobbes simply because your obviously a sad victim type doesn't mean we all are. Next time someone begs off you in the street why don't you sign over your life savings.. ****in idiot..

.logic.

yossarin

they're right Logic, these people are insidious.

They came at me when i was drunk one time, and it was only by virtue of being quite so drunk that i got away.

when i see them on the street i try to keep a 'buffer person' between them and me at all times.