Fizzy Drinks

Bottle_of_Smoke

Ok I'm aware these aren't good for you but.....

Are they bad because they're carbonated *or* because of their high chance of being full of sugar?

I find fizzy drinks quite refreshing, much more so than still ones, so would sparkling water mixed with sugar free dilutable drink thing be ok? or say riverrock flavoured waters that just have sweeteners?

Stark

Yeah the problem is the sugar not the carbonation. I'm not quite sure about Riverrock waters, they have aspartame(Nutrisweet) which is quite poisonous, but then again it's also in things like Lucozade sport and stuff yet people don't seem to mind. Diet Club Orange is quite good as it uses non-aspartame sweetener and has a small bit of natural orange juice. Sparkling water with sugar-free dilutable drink would be okay as well, if you check the labels there's quite a few that don't contain aspartame.

Bottle_of_Smoke

what sort of way is aspartame posoinous? find that disturbing i always go for aspartame ahead of sugar baed stuff, what sweeteners are ok?

Jim

Nutrisweet is in every softdrink bar 7up.
Its in diet drinks in very large quantities and the stuff is bloody leathal.

Stark

Diet 7up contains it as well. The only commonly available diet drinks not to contain it are Diet Club Orange/Lemon, they contain sucralose which is okay. Do a search for aspartame on google. It's worse when taken on an empty stomach as it brings on a state of hypoglycameia as well as the usual effects.

Here is a list of side effects (I've put asterisks next to the ones I can testify to)
Eye
blindness in one or both eyes
decreased vision and/or other eye problems such as: blurring, bright flashes, squiggly lines, tunnel vision, decreased night vision
pain in one or both eyes
*decreased tears
*trouble with contact lenses
bulging eyes

Ear
tinnitus - ringing or buzzing sound
severe intolerance of noise
marked hearing impairment

Neurologic
epileptic seizures
*headaches, migraines and some severe
*dizziness, unsteadiness, both
*confusion, memory loss, both
severe drowsiness and sleepiness
paresthesia or numbness of the limbs
*severe slurring of speech
severe hyperactivity and restless legs
atypical facial pain
severe tremors

Psychological/Psychiatric
severe depression
*irritability
aggression
*anxiety
personality changes
*insomnia
phobias

Chest
palpitations, tachycardia
*shortness of breath
recent high blood pressure

Gastrointestinal
nausea
diarrhea, sometimes with blood in stools
abdominal pain (my friend complains about this frequently when he drinks them)
pain when swallowing

Skin and Allergies
itching without a rash
lip and mouth reactions
hives
aggravated respiratory allergies such as asthma

Endocrine and Metabolic
loss of control of diabetes
menstrual changes
marked thinning or loss of hair
marked weight loss
gradual weight gain (due to insulin response)
*aggravated low blood sugar (hypoglycemia)
severe PMS

Other
frequency of voiding and burning during urination
excessive thirst, fluid retention, leg swelling, and bloating
increased susceptibility to infection

Additional Symptoms of Aspartame Toxicity include the most critical symptoms of all
death
irreversible brain damage
birth defects, including mental retardation
peptic ulcers
*aspartame addiction and increased craving for sweets
hyperactivity in children
severe depression
aggressive behavior
suicidal tendencies

Aspartame may trigger, mimic, or cause the following illnesses:
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Epstein-Barr
Post-Polio Syndrome
Lyme Disease
Grave’s Disease
Meniere’s Disease
Alzheimer’s Disease
ALS
Epilepsy
Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
EMS
Hypothyroidism
Mercury sensitivity from Amalgam fillings
Fibromyalgia
Lupus
non-Hodgkins
Lymphoma
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD)

Davey Devil

How is Aspartame legal if it's that bad for you?

Stark

I'd imagine the soft drinks companies have a lot of lobbying power. Aspartame was the only real alternative after they were forced to put warning labels on saccharin drinks. The EU has been pushing for ages to make it illegal, but it's a big thing to remove all diet drinks from shelves. There might be a chance for it to be made illegal now that soft drink companies have sucralose (Splenda) to turn to. Sucralose tastes better too. Coca Cola use it in Diet Coke in some countries but not Ireland/UK. The fact that aspartame is addictive may help that decision somewhat.

Davey Devil

I drink Pepsi Max which has no sugar but has Aspartame. Would it be healthier to drink normal Pepsi than Pepsi Max?

Bottle_of_Smoke

fu*ck it going with water from now on

Sangre

Any conclusive studies on this?

goin'_to_the_PS

the amount of suger in coke is tiny compared to breakfast cereals. Coco pops and frosties are 43 per cent suger!!!!! even alpen museli is 24 per cent suger.,

Stark

Yeah I feel like smacking the TV when those "Frosties, Coco pops etc. are healthy" ads come on. I can just picture a mother pouring a bag of sugar down her child's throat, smiling for the camera and saying "It's so low in fat!" :rolleyes:

Transform

Totally agree - you need water not more chemicals in your system. Artificial sweeteners cause all sort of long term problems and chronic conditions. The big producer - Monsanto, are the same people behind genetically modified foods. It is basically an excitotoxin - excites or stimulates neural cells to death.
These companies have created a whole new industry in the last 20 years - the 'Low Fat' and 'Sugar free' industry!! The irony of it all is that it increases your desire for sweet and sugary foods even more!
Water, water, water.

OFDM

Stark wrote:

Do a search for aspartame on google.

That's not as bad as the effect that the dihydrogen monoxide they put into it can have. The side effects of prolonged dihydrogen monoxide ingestion include:

# Excessive sweating
# Excessive urination
# Bloated feeling
# Nausea
# Vomiting
# Electrolyte imbalance
# Hyponatremia (serum hypotonicity)
# Dangerously imbalanced levels of ECF and ICF in the blood
# Degeneration of sodium homeostasis

daveirl

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Bottle_of_Smoke

OFDM how long have you been waiting to post that!?