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best fantasy books

  • 14-12-2004 1:14am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭calis


    has to be :

    george r r martins song of ice and fire books followed by gemmells waylader books followed closely by fiests midekima and kelewan books!!!!!

    robert jordans was good for 3 books but ant book ten now its a joke!!

    robin hobb farseer was dull at start and picked up.

    terry brooks shannara series faded 2wards the end for me tho first 3 were great.

    eddings - first books i read but a little "childish" to read now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    what about Steven Donaldsons ""Chronicles of Thomas Covenant"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Evilution


    Legend - David Gemmell
    Antrax - Terry Brooks
    Farseer books - Robin Hobb
    Nobodys Son - Sean Stewart
    Magician - Ray Feist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭NeoSlicerZ


    Ian Irvine - The Mirror series and the Well of Echoes
    Raymond E. Feist - Magician
    J.V.Jones - The ice series(not sure about teh name), 2 out so far Cavern of Black Ice and Fortress of Grey Ice.
    David Gemell books are very good too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,698 ✭✭✭garthv


    George RR Martins series has to be my favourite,followed by a close second with The Wheel Of Time and to top of all of in third place id go with the Dragonlance chronicles by Weis and Hickman


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭UNIFLU


    earthsea trilogy by ursula le guinn

    fantastic


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭moridin


    Hmmm, this is about the 12th time that this thread has reared it's head up... Az, how about stickying the next one that takes off?

    Or even better, how about we compile a brief synopsis of the major series' that would interest people and sticky that instead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭Fenster


    Or how about we just sticky my thread? :p

    On that note, I gotta read those Dragonlance novels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    moridin wrote:
    Hmmm, this is about the 12th time that this thread has reared it's head up... Az, how about stickying the next one that takes off?

    Or even better, how about we compile a brief synopsis of the major series' that would interest people and sticky that instead?

    good idea, we can start with

    The Lord Of The Rings ~ Tolkien
    Wheel Of Time ~ Jordan
    Farseer Trilogy ~ Hobb
    The Riftwar and Serpentwar Saga ~ Feist and Wurtz
    Magican and the Conclave of Shadows series ~ Feist
    Legend, Waylander, Knights of Dark Renown ~ Gemmell
    A song of Ice and Fire ~ Martin
    The chronicles of Thomas covenant ~ Donaldson
    The Dark Elf series by Salvatore...any of them really ~ Salvatore
    The Wars of Light and Shadow ~ Wurtz

    no particular order, I'll add to this as I think of more...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,763 ✭✭✭Fenster


    Don't forget that Robin Hobb has another six books in the same series after the Farseer trilogy, all of them pretty damm good.

    You've the Liveships and Tawny Man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭moridin


    The old thread is here

    Don't forget prettymuch everything by:
    • George RR Martin
    • Steven Erikson
    • Guy Gavriel Kay

    Anyone want to write a short synopsis of the above series/titles, or just pull details off amazon? :p


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Can I suggest a format if we're going to have a sticky for suggestions? It's probably too rigid but something like this:

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    Series Title: Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn
    Author: Tad Williams url="http://www.tadwilliams.com/"]Official site[/url
    Number of Books: [4]
    1. The Dragonbone Chair
    2. Stone of Farewell
    3. To Green Angel Tower: Seige
    4. To Green Angel Tower: Storm
    Synopsis: The story of Simon, a young kitchen boy and magician's apprentice, whose dreams of great deeds and heroic wars come all too shockingly true when his world is torn apart by a terrifying civil war — a war fueled by ancient hatreds, immortal enemies, and the dark powers of sorcery.

    Personal Opinion
    : One of the first epic fantasies that I read, Tad William's rich landscape reminded me of (as was intended) a more modern re-working of some of the concepts from Lord of the Rings. It's traditional fantasy done very well, with polished prose and interesting characters. It's not high on magic/bloodshed but tries to keep it mostly focused on a small set of characters. Very gripping and highly recommended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭moridin


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    Series Title: The Malazan Book of the Fallen
    Author: Steven Erikson
    Number of Books: [5] (so far)
    1. Gardens of the Moon
    2. Deadhouse Gates
    3. Memories of Ice
    4. House of Chains
    5. Midnight Tides

    Synopsis: A highly complex story spanning several volumes, the Malazan book of the fallen tells the tale of the Malazan empire's struggles on the contenent of Genabakis. Each volume is discrete, yet when taken together they slowly reveal more and more about the world that Erikson has created.

    Gardens of the Moon - concerns the military campaign by the Malazan Empire to capture the last remaining Free City on the Gernsbackian continent.

    Deadhouse gates - In the vast dominion of Seven Cities, in the Holy Desert Raraku, the seer Sha´ik and her followers prepare for the long-prophesied uprising named the Whirlwind.

    Memories of Ice - The ravaged continent of Genabackis has given birth to a terrifying new empire: the Pannion Domin. Like a tide of corrupted blood, it seethes across the land, devouring all who fail to heed the word of it's elusive prophet, the Pannion Seer.

    House of Chains - Tells more about the influence of the Crippled God on the world, and throws new light on the sides of the Apocalypse and the significance of the struggle between Sha´ik and the Malazans.

    Midnight Tides - The story of the enslavery of the Tiste Edur, as told by a renegade who dared to question the dark will of the Tiste Edur emperor.

    Personal Opinion: The most epic collection of stories I've ever read. Erikson weaves together so many plot-threads, characters, and situations as to astound. The depth of the world he has created is quite frightening. A truly incredible series that should be read by all followers of fantasy. Can be a bit heavygoing at times, due to the sheer wealth of information that he manages to cram in there :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭calis


    jordan wheel of time was great for first few books but man hes just dragging it out now .. it a joke .. and new book wont be here til late 06. ill be dead b4 he finishs that series.

    tomas covenat books just didnt do it for me at all. tho i did manage to read all 6 but it was a struggle at times.

    tad williams sorrow books were pretty good.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Leaving aside Tolkein as a special case.
    Best Adult Series - "Chronicles of Thomas Covenant"
    Honourable Mentions for the excellent "Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn" of Tad Williams and "The Assassins Apprentice" Series by Robin Hobb .

    Best Young Adults - "The Belgarion" series by David Eddings

    Best Fantasy Book - Legend by Gemmell.
    Honourable Mentions "Guards, Guards" by Terry Pratchett and "George and the Dragon" by Gordon Dickson

    finally, worst ever "Colours in the Steel: The Fencer Trilogy" - agggh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭calis


    the worst ever has to be any of them forgotten realms books.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭madrab


    they may be aimed at a younger audience but i found the Abhorsen trilogy by Garth Nix freally good (a bit short maybe)

    i still have to read Abhorsen but Sabriel and Lireal were really good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    *bing*
    your wish is my command


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    selling books by gemmell donaldson brooks dickson in this thread:

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=209783

    need to be able to collect from rathgar if you want any.

    (this is not commercial or whatever so I think it's ok to post it. Need spare cash and space and people looking at this might be interested.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    Steven Eriksson - Malazan Book of the Fallen (five books so far, completely changes all the rules of epic fantasy), I think moridin summed it all up above.

    I didn't think the Fencer Trilogy all that bad, it kind of went overboard with the symbolism and such, but the action scenes were good-moderate and all the information on making stuff was cool.

    Wheel of Time... the action and magic and background history is all cool, but the politics are so dull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Just finished the Black Magician trilogy (The Magicians Guild, The Novice, The Dark Lord) by Trudi Canavan. Really enjoyed them.....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭elvenscout742


    LotR, of course.

    The Songs & Swords books by Elaine Cunningham.

    The Drizzt Do'Urden books by RA Salvatore, particularly Homeland and The Halfling's Gem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    calis wrote:
    the worst ever has to be any of them forgotten realms books.

    I happen to like this particular uni-verse....pity some of the writing in it can be dire...but i still rate the ice wind dale trilogy and the darkelf stuff by RA Salvatore as very entertaining


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭elvenscout742


    Here, here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭calis


    i tried reading few of them books but couldnt. havent gone back to them. played the icewind dale game tho :) that was v good


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Buttmunchy


    Stravaganza - Mary Hoffman. Kids book - you wouldn't read it.

    Harry Potter - JK Rowling. Duh!

    I don't know any other really good ones at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 139 ✭✭americanCat


    the Rhapsody series.. some mercedes lackeys' books..and any book by Alice Borchardt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭jem


    Picking up on earlier post.

    The Lord Of The Rings ~ Tolkien naturally
    Wheel Of Time ~ Jordan started good didn't even bodder to read last few must be his pension series.
    Farseer Trilogy ~ Hobb good
    The Riftwar and Serpentwar Saga ~ Feist and Wurtz best of these was magician by a long way.
    Magican and the Conclave of Shadows series ~ Feist
    Legend, Waylander, Knights of Dark Renown ~ Gemmell naturally
    A song of Ice and Fire ~ Martin very good read.
    The Dark Elf series by Salvatore...excellent loved the dark elf.
    The Wars of Light and Shadow ~ Wurtz
    one of the star war series was good, can't thing who wrote the one with Admiral Thawn read it years ago.

    This tread will drive me mad thinking of all those I read over the years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Just got around to reading it and I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it, bit short but it left me craving for more,,, bring on the book four :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    Nobody has even mentioned Katherine Kerr yet!
    My three favorite fantasy authors, in no particular order, would have to be
    Terry Brooks
    David Eddings
    Katherine Kerr

    Brooks tends to ignore details a lot, and his books have a tendency to drag for large periods, but he has an amazing ability to interchange different sequences of his stories. I mean, I don't know anybody, who when reading The Sword Of Shanarra for the first time, didn't plod through the first half, and then find the second half so riveting that they couldn't put it down!!!

    Eddings, is often refereed to as childish, but I don't think that that is very fair on him. His stories tend to be very middle of the road, i.e.: good triumphs over evil and everybody lives happily ever after, but his real skill lies in the interaction of the characters. After a while, you begin to think of them as real people, and I've never read an another author who manage to do this so thoroughly.

    If you want something more grown up though, Katherine Kerr is about the best you can hope for. Here is a woman who really knows her subject matter! The Devery. and subsequent, series, are so packed with every possible detail (She practically invented a bunch of different languages!!!), but at the same time, the story is brilliant. The story branches out over the better part of a millennia, but it's still very compelling, and only rarely over complicated.

    Well, that's my two cents anyway!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    I mean, I don't know anybody, who when reading The Sword Of Shanarra for the first time, didn't plod through the first half, and then find the second half so riveting that they couldn't put it down!!!!

    Now I shall have to go back and read the second half ( first half had me in Coma)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭danyosan


    I found that with the shannara series as well, once I read the first one a rattled thru the rest of the series though.

    Cant believe nobody has mentioned terry goodkind and his sword of truth series, this is one of the best series I have read in a long time!!

    Favourite àuthor has to be gemmell though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    danyosan wrote:
    Cant believe nobody has mentioned terry goodkind and his sword of truth series, this is one of the series I have read in a long time!!

    Can't get into that at all. I'm trudging through the first one (about halfway) and it's just leaving me cold. It all seems a bit too simple, and the characters are almost too umcomplicated.

    The best series for me is George RR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire. The only thing that I could criticise is the fact that I have to wait for the next one now. Also highly recommended is James Barclay's brilliant Chronicles/Legends of the Raven and David Farland's Runelords series - which is now being made into a major film.

    I haven't read JV Jones Cavern of Ice yet, but her Bakers Boy series was very good if a bit simple. Tad Williams stuff is always great - loved his 'War of the Flowers'. Gemmell is good but he does get repitive, while the Wheel of Time starts off brilliantly but takes a severe dip after the sixth book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭danyosan


    Persevere with it, I found the same thing, didnt think I would get into it at all but then it got me hooked.

    The ice and fire series didnt really grab me at all, granted ive only read the first one but I didnt think all that much happened. Mind you there has to be a lot of action to keep my attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    danyosan wrote:
    Mind you there has to be a lot of action to keep my attention.

    If that's the case then you HAVE to read The Chronicles/Legends of the Raven. It's the most bloodthirsty, action packed series you'll ever read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭danyosan


    will do....havent read a book for months now though, used to work at sea so got loads of reading done, working onshore now and havent picked up a book since, gotta get back into it. Ive got chainfire and tanequil lying in the house, been there for nearly 2 months and i havent even opened either, need a good kick up the jacksie!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 Ehlana


    danyosan wrote:
    I
    Cant believe nobody has mentioned terry goodkind and his sword of truth series, this is one of the series I have read in a long time!!

    I totally agree with you re: the Sword of Truth Series. I'm currently rereading the whole series leading up to Chainfire just to savour it all the more. For me, Terry Goodkind is more of a grown up David Eddings (who I also adore).

    I have to say though I cannot see the appeal with Robin Hobbs. Just couldn't get into the Farseer Series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭danyosan


    I've never read any of robin hobbs stuff. One that I just couldnt get into and pretty much hated to be honest was the tom covenant stories. Just couldnt get into a story that revolved around a character that I didnt like. i didnt even finish the first book, only time thats ever happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Fence


    danyosan wrote:
    Cant believe nobody has mentioned terry goodkind and his sword of truth series, this is one of the best series I have read in a long time!!

    Have to disagree.
    Goodkind took a good idea (the first book) and ruined it with way too many messages about how the only way forward is through a benevolent dictatorship. He lets far too much political bs overshadow his plots and characters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    Steven Erickson is a must for anyone one who loves fantasy,A Tale of the Malazan book of the Fallen series::: blew me away, takes you into it,,,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭danyosan


    Fence wrote:
    Have to disagree.
    Goodkind took a good idea (the first book) and ruined it with way too many messages about how the only way forward is through a benevolent dictatorship. He lets far too much political bs overshadow his plots and characters.

    I have found that in a few of his books, gotta agree with you there. there was two in the series that I just thought were a waste of time, the pillars of creation and...cant think of the other's name. But generally ive found it to be a good series, the politics aside, the storylines keep me gripped.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭Horatio


    The other one is the Soul of the Fire with " the chicken which is not a chicken"
    that was crap but Temple of the winds was one of the best ever reads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭arrietty


    I can't believe no-one's mentioned His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman! Not typical fantasy... technically children's books (but the last one, especially, is very sophisticated)... and super-literary, with references all over the place. But if you're at all into fantasy you should read it.

    I also like some of Tanith Lee's stuff, especially her short stories (try the Forests of the Night collection). Amazing writer. I don't see her in bookshops a lot but I picked up a novel of hers in a charity shop on the weekend.

    I hated the Farseer Trilogy and didn't even finish the third Robin Hobb trilogy in that series, but I loved The Liveship Traders. Much better than the other books, I reckoned. I think it was because I couldn't stick Fitz and his pondering. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,225 ✭✭✭Scruff


    GaRtH_V wrote:
    George RR Martins series has to be my favourite,followed by a close second with The Wheel Of Time and to top of all of in third place id go with the Dragonlance chronicles by Weis and Hickman

    i was going to say almost the exact same.

    1) George RR Martin - A song of Ice and Fire *
    2) Raymond E Feist - The Riftwar and Serpentwar Saga **
    3) Weis and Hickman - Dragonlance Chronicles

    *Remains here as long as the forth coming Feast For Crows doesnt let the whole side down.

    ** Wheel of Time could have been here except it became pants after book 5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 damiynn


    I have read a lot of fantasy since thats about all i can do. Everything from Rob Jordan and George Martin to John Norman and Phillip Jose Farmer but I will tell you what A V Wedhorn's Kingdom Chronicles I think will end up being one of the best series Ive ever read


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭NineMoons


    Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time - I love it (great characters, funny, exciting, imaginative) and hate it (politics shmolitics, too many characters, badly edited in later books) in pretty much equal measure but I'm still dying to know how it ends.

    Robin Hobb - didn't care so much for the first three (the Farseer ones), the middle three I LOVED (the ones about the ships) and I really liked the last three (the Fool trilogy?)

    Ursula Le Guin - First books I ever bought with my own money! Earthsea books especially Tehanu which I hated the first time I read it and read it again a few years later and fell in love with it.

    Mervyn Peake - Gormenghast - the first two - I didn't like Titus enough to want to read about him meandering all over the place without the other characters so I never read Titus Alone.

    C.S. Lewis - Narnia Chronicles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭growler


    NineMoons wrote:
    Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time - I love it (great characters, funny, exciting, imaginative) and hate it (politics shmolitics, too many characters, badly edited in later books) in pretty much equal measure but I'm still dying to know how it ends.
    .

    it'll never ever end it just goes on and on and on and on then they 'll all wake up and it'll start all overr again.

    After reading the first 47 books I got bored anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭fade


    i do agree that the last few books have been a bit slow, but i still wouldnt stop reading them. i personally love robert jordan, there is so much depth and detail. and i know politics come into it alot, but when does it not. i think he has created such a spectacular world that leaves nothing out, and for me its a real story, it doesnt sort of skip, or give less attention to certain things. pure class.

    robin hobb, pure class asweel, i just love the narative style. readin twany man book 2 at the mo, its gooooddddddd


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭calis


    wheel of time books will finish at book 12 YAY only 2 more to go :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭NineMoons


    Yup, only two more. If he introduces another character my head may explode. Less politics, more action and lots more MAT!! :p Book 11 - Knife of Dreams is out on October 11th. Apparently RJ has insisted on it having a full editorial work-up this time - the last one was on the shelves 6 weeks after he handed it in so no wonder it was full of unnecessary crap!

    This one is going to be great - it has to be or I will become very bitter and disillusioned... :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 394 ✭✭Mickah


    More Sci/Fi than fantasy but easily as good as George RR Martin

    Stephen Donaldson - The Gap Series

    1. The Gap into Conflict: The Real Story
    2. The Gap into Vision: Forbidden Knowledge
    3. The Gap into Power: A Dark and Hungry God Arises
    4. The Gap into Madness: Chaos and Order
    5. The Gap into Ruin: This Day All Gods Die

    Real gritty, violent and real books, I liked the same about Martin. I've read a lot of Sci-fi/Fantasy and this series is in my top 3 along with George RR Martin's.


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