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OK so whats so rong with Limp Bizket?

  • 20-05-2001 8:55pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭


    Dont get m rong im not saying they are brilliant nor am I saying they are the worst pice of **** ever .. cus in my opinion the worst of all is POP-Music any how gwan FEED me with uer opinions on how they are what they are why they are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Ah, but Limp Bizkit are pop music. pop = popular music. They're selling sh*tloads of cds. Not there's anything wrong with pop though. I doubt I could listen to metal music all the time - you need the light stuff as well wink.gif

    There's plenty wrong with Limp Bizkit though....

    1) Fred Durst doesn't sing, he whines.
    2) They swear so they appeal to 10 year olds (my generation anyone?)
    3) They come across as such utter twats in interviews
    4) They have facial hair issues.
    5) They're nu-metal. And everybody knows that 'nu metal = sux0r!!1111111'
    6) They've very few decent riffs in their songs
    7) They try to be hip-hop/rap - oblivous to the fact that Fred Durst can't rap (getcha groove on anyone?)

    Fear can sometimes be a useful emotion. For instance, let's say you're an astronaught on the moon and you fear that your partner has been turned into Dracula. The next time he goes out for the moon pieces, wham! You just slam the door behind him and blast off. He might call you on the radio and say he's not Dracula, but you just say, "Think again, bat man."
    hello.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭chernobyl


    dont know really, cuz i never heard of that band.
    but Limp Bizkit...the "MTV Cool" band...hmm, i dunno, just keep rollin rollin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Sliotar


    i think the "pop" adren is referring to is westlife/steps etc... there is quite a bit of difference between that and limp bizkit. im not a huge limp bizkit fan, but i think its unfair how most ppl hate them mainly because they have become successful. and fred durst does sing, have a listen to "the one". he does whine too, but for some reason i seem to be impervious to its effects, i dont have a problem with it. his rapping isnt amazing, but theres still a certain something about it. their guitar riffs are a matter of taste, i like 'em. i really would love to know where this blind unstoppable h8 of limp bizkit came from, i mean why??!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭DEmeant0r


    there's nothing wrong with Limp Bizkit but he does swear alot in songs, if you listen to linkin park there songs are absolutely fantastic and they don't swear AT ALL.

    So I sit here empty hearted.......To wonder who farted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Klay


    In response to NekkidBibleman's post:

    1) Fred Durst Can sing, as proved in the songs Re-Arranged and My Way. He's better at screaming/rapping because that way you can feel what he's saying. Singing can't really do that.
    2) Lots of bands swear in their songs. It doesn't mean they're aimed at 10 year old kids though.
    3) Fred can get a little tongue-tied, but not Wes, he's very smart. Could you blame him? How would you cope with a barrage of questions under the spotlight?
    4) ??? Wes has a goatee? So What?
    5) Nu-metal? Greatest thing since sliced bread! smile.gif Deftones, Korn, R.A.T.M..etc.
    6) How about ALL of rearranged, the intro to Counterfeit and the heavy part of My Way...to name but a few.
    7) I think you mean Hip-Hop/Metal. They invented it. Rapping = Rhyming. Most of his lyrics are rhymes.

    As for ADREN..I'm assuming he meant Bubblegum/Boyband POP which is utter TRASH! Bizkit may be going POP admitedly...but so what? If you can make good music and still make lots of music..keep doing it biggrin.gif

    "(Shaft error to Klay[b-airlock140.esatclear.ie]: Erection reset by queer)"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭harVee


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by -ADREN-:
    cus in my opinion the worst of all is POP-Music</font>

    This kind of talk is bordering on musical Nazism.
    Listen to any Pet Shop Boys album and repeat that sentence. I dare you.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    Posted by Klay:

    "I think you mean Hip-Hop/Metal. They invented it."

    _____________________________


    Ehh.... no they didn't and even if they did it still doesn't make them any better.

    Oh well I guess some peoples musical taste never develops past the age of 14.


    YOU SHOULD ALL LISTEN TO FUGAZI.

    I'm the Dude


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭chernobyl


    Korn invented Rap/Rock music and they now think thats "lame" and are now purely rock.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 28,633 Mod ✭✭✭✭Shiminay


    No way - Rage Against The Machine were doing it first.

    Anyway - Limp Bizkit...

    I think it's just Fred Durst everyone has a problem with smile.gif They started off really well - 3 Dollar Bill Y'All is a fine album as is Significant Other, but Starfish is too (c)rappy for metal tastes and now that they're appealing to the 14 - 16 year old market (who'll buy anything), they're made up!

    I've said it before and I'll say it again - Wes Borland rox yer jox - the next Tom Morello??? He can sing too - he did Bombtrack at Reading last year (I think it was Bombtrack). Their bass player is quite good too - Re-Arranged has a nice bass riff (that one springs to mind). Drums - OK, but nothing major. DJ Lethal - I dunno - I think his stuff fits in nicly, but it's not really a type of music I know too much about so I can't make too much comment.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭the fnj


    I think people don't like them because there crap.

    Do i need to follow this up with why there crap or is that not blindingly obvious and Rage did do rap rock before Korn but Korn did do it well and did a very different darker style to rage. Both are good bands,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭black_wizardd


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Klay:

    5) Nu-metal? Greatest thing since sliced bread! smile.gif Deftones, Korn, R.A.T.M..etc.
    </font>

    Death to false metal, how that s hite (bar RATM's first album, that had feeling and talent) ever got classed as "metal" is beyond me.

    But oh, no tears please, fear and pain may acompany death, but it is desire that sheperds its certainty, as we shall see...



    [This message has been edited by black_wizardd (edited 21-05-2001).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭boddah


    Dont slag off nu metal; if it wasnt for that we would not have the revolution we have in metal today.
    korn, deftoned, RATM are fantastic bands, but Limp Bizkit do not deserve the Nu Metal tag

    Durty auld MORRIS drums...
    they're fu*kin' great!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭the celtic tiger


    i'm hopefully going to see limp bizkit in june. I don't particularly like them, but it will be a great laugh. all the moshing and what not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    God damn it people...

    Limp Bizkit did NOT invent Rap/Metal...

    KoRn did not invent Rap/Metal

    RATM did not invent Rap/Metal


    It predates ALL of thos bands...


    Do you want to know who did it?
    Do you?

    It was Aerosmith and Run DMC.
    They collaborated on "Walk This Way" bak in the early 80's.

    THAT very song was the thing that started the whole Rap/Rock Rap/Metal thing.

    Way back when Fred Durst was still wearing Diapers. (He wore diapers untill he was 12, apparently.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭-ADREN-


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by harVee:
    This kind of talk is bordering on musical Nazism.
    Listen to any Pet Shop Boys album and repeat that sentence. I dare you.

    </font>


    Ok yes when i said POP i ment westlife and so on like britany spears and fcuking s club 7... pet shop boys ... John lennon ... ect .. sound wink.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    In response to Klay's post:

    1) A lot of my favourite bands scream in their songs. Fred Durst, however, does not. He whines - he's like a frigging banshee. As for your examples, all I can say is:
    reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeearaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanged.

    2) So, pray tell, why are 80% of Limp Bizkit's fans 10 year olds?

    3) Actually, I wasn't referring to their idiocy (but thanks for highlighting it biggrin.gif). Its not what they say, its the way they say it, so to speak.

    4) Come off it, they all have dodgy facial hair. Goatees, sideburns, the lot.

    5) Nu metal is generally hit and miss, depending on at what end of the nu-metal spectrum it is on.. I like RATM, Deftones and some korn and limp bizkit stuff. Most of Three Dollar Bill is good, and way different to their current stuff.

    6) Intro to counterfiet is good, as is break stuff's intro. Nookie's isn't bad either. But re-arranged and my way? are you quite mad?
    Tip: Buy some Led Zeppelin cds. Listen to them.

    7) Limp Bizkit certainly did not invent hip-hop/metal and its insulting to bands like Antrhax, RATM etc who've been doing it long before Limp Bizkit were on the scene. Limp Bizkit made it popular. They certainly did not pioneer it.

    In a way Angelwhore is correct, stuff like Walk This Way is what Fred Durst and co. grew up with and probably took alot of inspiration from.

    Fear can sometimes be a useful emotion. For instance, let's say you're an astronaught on the moon and you fear that your partner has been turned into Dracula. The next time he goes out for the moon pieces, wham! You just slam the door behind him and blast off. He might call you on the radio and say he's not Dracula, but you just say, "Think again, bat man."
    hello.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AngelWhore:

    It was Aerosmith and Run DMC.
    They collaborated on "Walk This Way" bak in the early 80's.
    THAT very song was the thing that started the whole Rap/Rock Rap/Metal thing.
    </font>

    yeah and it was painful crap then and its painful crap now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Belisarius


    Finally it has come , the cataclysmic battle between the ethreal ying and yang of the universe, Nu Metal versus Good music , young versus old , good versus evil

    However I digress


    While I abhore all this new Limp Bizkit/Linkin Park *The worst of them all in my opinion* You have to admit it shows some primoreal atom of musical taste , I mean just a year or two ago there was a nasty period , when our youth clung to the commercialised drivel that is *the majority not the whole * of R&B , Like some sort of Cold blooded amphibian rising though the ranks of the evolutionary scale , but If they cant see beyond this murky horizon to some frickin good music ,they might aswell go back to theyre Britney spears albums or whatever, And most of em wont be able to see beyond that shiny red cap of fred dursts ,Enthralled by the siren call of "Cool" or what our youngins percieve that to be.But a few just might go on to appreciate good music when they hear it smile.gif


    Oh and Kalis right Aerosmith are right up theyre with Johnny Bon Jovi for Pussy rock smile.gif

    Shrewgar!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    These sort of conversations really **** me off because you have all these nimrods coming in saying how great and cool and super-duper original some band are, completely oblivious to the fact that in five years time they'll cringe when they are reminded that they used to absolutely love them.

    And for God's Sake: WHAT THE HELL IS PAPA ROACH'S PROBLEM??

    What's with that "nothing is right. everything is wrong" ****???

    I can just see them sitting down writing that song and saying: "Let's write a song that'll appeal to the 13 - 24 year old middle class white male who has absolutely nothing to complain about and has relatively no hardship in his life but still thinks that the world is on his shoulders and that he's fighting the system and rebelling against God knows what."

    AAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH - makes me want to punch people and force real music down their stupid ear canals.

    Calm blue ocean.... calm blue ocean.... time for sleep.

    I'm the Dude


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Limp Bizkit.
    Papa Roach.
    Linkin Park.
    SlipKnot.

    It all spells the same thing. Basicaly.
    It's all pop music, designed to appeal to kids.

    It's popular today to feel like ****.
    It's popular today to be opressed by society.
    It's popular to cut yourself.
    It's popular to have a "**** everyone" attitude.

    I was doing some shopping in Dublin.
    As I walked around to all the different shops do you know what I saw?
    Kids.
    Kids that were about 14 years old.
    Kids wearing SlipKnot hoodies.
    With their arms cut and scarred.
    They had their arm sleeves rolled up so everyone could see their scars.

    "HEY EVERYONE! LOOK AT ME! I CUT MYSELF! I MUST BE COOL!"

    I mean, it's ****ing sickening.
    Bands like SlipKnot popularise and promote this kind of thing.
    Bands like Papa Roach, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit.

    Q: How do you know whether someone is cutting themselves for attention?
    A: You can see their scars.

    A person who actualy cuts themselves because they have problems ALWAYS covers them up. They don't flash them around.

    Compare these Nu-Metal kids to people who would listen to stuff like Cradle Of Filth, Emperor, and Dimmu Borgir.
    They are mostly in their twenties.
    You'd also notice that a lot of them would also listen to bands like The Doors, Tool, and basicaly any good music.

    How many Limp Bisect fans could you say the same for?

    I can't really understand the idea of Pop music.
    I mean, only predending to like what is popular at the time?
    I could never listen to music like that...
    Stuffing away all the old stuff, in case someone found out you used to like them?

    I have an Alanis Morrisette CD that I bought a while ago. HEY! I still listen to it.
    My old Queen CD's and tapes aren't going anywhere.
    And I'm not ashamed I ever liked them...
    I was listening to The Offspring earlier.

    Anyway, that was one big mad rant...
    But you can see my points, I hope.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Klay


    I have plenty of friends (All aged 17-19) who like Limp Bizkit, and don't believe in the whole pop system of buying an album because its advertised everywhere and get sick of it in a few months time. Whoever bought the album, got it cuz they liked the songs..

    Your worse than the media, blaming bands for little kiddies mutilating themselves...If a kid would do that, theyd have to be pretty disturbed beforehand. I dont think that type of music turns chilers into suicidal maniacs...especially Linkin Park...they dont even swear.

    /me is currently listening to Led Zeppelin - Whole Lotta Love... on cd. smile.gif
    I just said Bizkit had some good riffs..didn't compare them to Zeppelin or anything. Jimmy P. 0wnz all j00r azz! tongue.gif

    Whats makes me mad is the way people automatically assume something is crap because it is popular, without even really listening to them.


    "(Shaft error to Klay[b-airlock140.esatclear.ie]: Erection reset by queer)"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Belisarius


    Well come on man , AW wasnt really blaming "Bands" rather some sort of sicophantic emulation complex in theese lil upstarts I mean when anyone starts mutilating themselves for whatever reason its time to take a step back , But when its for some sort of Musical affiliation ...that merits serious concern . So while its the direct fault of the kids for not having a bit of ****ing cop on ,but its the responsibility of the musical powers that be for Aiming theese bands at kids who consequently do some bleedin stupid things for whatever mental faculty thats lacking in thier yupee minds


    Oh yeah you could hardly blame Linkin park fair enough ,theyre bearly a step up from westlife ;D

    Shrewgar!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    Simple solution to the problem ,
    you like Limp Bizket yes - listen to there music
    No - Dont listen to there music

    But if you want the best of limp bizket without the added pop style crap in it then listen to Linkin Park or Papa Roach both are better than Limp Bizket in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Having a 'f*** you all' attitude has become cool now. Because the little kids wouldn't have a clue where to start looking at metal music, they buy the nu-metal stuff they see on MTV.

    I disagree when when you say that its the kids who are f*cked up by slicing themselves. What a person likes and doesn't like defines who that person is - music is a big influence on people, especially teenagers. If you listen to music with lyrics such as 'don't give a **** if i cut my arm bleeding' it will influence them indirectly.

    And Linkin Park are just Savage Garden with loud guitars in my opinion. Still, all power to them for not throwing swear words around like they were going out of fashion.

    Fear can sometimes be a useful emotion. For instance, let's say you're an astronaught on the moon and you fear that your partner has been turned into Dracula. The next time he goes out for the moon pieces, wham! You just slam the door behind him and blast off. He might call you on the radio and say he's not Dracula, but you just say, "Think again, bat man."
    hello.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭black_wizardd


    So cutting yourself has become the fashion as of late rolleyes.gif, that I did'nt know, how f ucking sad can you get. If people have serious problems that kind of action can be justified by mental trauma, but just doing it for fun (not that I would regard cutting myself fun, only on weekends, when I'm known as "Jimmy the s&m b itch", ahem) and out of stupidity is quite pathetic.

    I guess the message is don't mess with nu-metal fans cause there f ucking hard, they'll stick one in ye and wont even think twice about it, cause there ssssoooooo f ucked up from the whole world being against their 13 year old stupid self's :P. Now that's sarcasim smile.gif.

    But oh, no tears please, fear and pain may acompany death, but it is desire that sheperds its certainty, as we shall see...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Klay:

    Your worse than the media, blaming bands for little kiddies mutilating themselves...If a kid would do that, theyd have to be pretty disturbed beforehand. I dont think that type of music turns chilers into suicidal maniacs...especially Linkin Park...they dont even swear.
    </font>

    I think belisarius said it best there.
    No, I'm NOT blaming bands for kids cutting themselves.
    I'm saying that a lot of kids today simply do it because it's the "Bad Ass" thing to do.
    And most of these kids REALLY flaunt their scars.
    I've cut myself in the past, and yeah, I have had problems before, and I still have the scars.
    But I always felt bad about it, and I always covered up.

    I actualy find it quite insulting the way a lot of kids these days do it. And, yes, quite a few bands DO glorify the idea. Have you ever listened to SlipKnot?
    They regularly have lyrics about their own self mutilation, and cut themselves on-stage. As with quite a number of other "Rock Stars" these days.
    So, a lot of kids get the idea that this is the cool thing to do... And I find it insulting.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Klay:

    Whats makes me mad is the way people automatically assume something is crap because it is popular, without even really listening to them.
    </font>

    What makes me mad is the way people automaticaly start listening to something when they become popular, and start whining when someone says they have sold out, with the fact that most of these people having never heard of the band before they became popular, and the people they whine about are the ones who have heard the bands.

    My point being, that more than half the current Limp Bizkit "Fans" now, would have never heard Faith.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Excelsior


    I just got some DJ Shadow. Real music. Real hip-hop. It will satisfy any rock urges you may have too.
    Those Limp Bizkit heads should really get it together. It is total dirge.
    In terms of it being better than the pop of, lets take as an example, Brtiney... shut up. Sure it is disposable and aimed at kids, but they are great fun songs. And having fun Mr I-cut-myself-I-hate-Britney is still a cool thing to do in my book. Listen to the Fountains of Wayne (oh how Limp Bizkit fans should) do versions of Britney songs and you will have no doubt about which are better.

    It reminds me of a friend of a friend. A reall intelligent guy called Jeff, who couldn't understand why we thought his favourite band, Limp Bizkit were so crappy. We showed him the Listener Supported DVD by DMB and then he was taken to some live jazz music. I think he intends to sell his Fred Durst cd.

    And as a note, I believe that Limp Bizkit sold 970,000 copies of their new (crap) album in the 1st week in the USA. That puts them just 200,000 behind N-SYNC.

    YOU ARE NOT REBELLING BY LISTENING TO CRAP MUSIC
    MUSIC IS NOT SUCH A GOOD WAY TO REBEL

    Go buy Reveal.
    Go buy some Ben Folds Five.

    You will cringe in years to come at owning those Limp Bizkit CDs.

    My Adolescent website:
    http://www.iol.net/~mullent

    [This message has been edited by Excelsior (edited 25-05-2001).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Loomer


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Demeant0r:
    if you listen to linkin park there songs are absolutely fantastic and they don't swear AT ALL.
    </font>

    Super. Lets all go to the park and listen to Linkin Park with lots of cream buns and lashings of ginger beer biggrin.gif

    P.S. Limp Bizkit are very limp IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    It's the rich Limp Bizkit fans that annoy me the most, walking around with their Red caps thinkin' they know it all:

    "Like, yah...Significant Other was like their first album..."

    Idiots.

    And btw, R.A.T.M. are NOT nu-metal!
    Sheesh, they've been around years ffs.

    And Deftones are just rock, they're not metal and they're certainly not nu-metal, because their music is actually decent.

    The reason Linkin Park don't swear is because if they did the powers that be would slap an "Explicit Lyrics" sticker on the front of the CD, and mommy won't have that now will she?

    God I hate long posts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PiE:

    And Deftones are just rock, they're not metal
    </font>

    SHOVE IT SHOVE IT SHOVE IT!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Klay


    Lol! You swear....your trying to be pop and appeal to kiddies. You don't swear, your trying to be pop and appeal to kiddies. Can't win, can you? :P
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">And Deftones are just rock, they're not metal and they're certainly not nu-metal</font>

    What a load of Bull****. Deftones are Nu-Metal. Rock is REM, Creed, Santana etc. If you had any idea about music genres, you'd know that.

    Why would any band want to promote the self mutilation of their fans? If they all go around commiting suicide..who's gonna line there pockets? biggrin.gif
    Like I said before..its got nothing to do with the bands. If they go around cutting themselves and showing it off, they'd probably do it anyway even if they don't listen to those bands, cause they'd have to be pretty ****ed up to actually think someone wants them to kill themselves.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Have you ever listened to SlipKnot? They regularly have lyrics about their own self mutilation, and cut themselves on-stage</font>

    Where are you getting that info from? Do you have any idea what they're lyrics are actually about? Cutting themselves on stage? Who the hell does that?!

    Slipknot are a decent enough band...no one has gotten that angry since Slayer came on the scene. (That was over decade ago!) mad.gif

    And so what if all these bands have annoying, snotty little kids as there fans nowadays. That's not a reason for downing the band. TV, the media, etc. decides whats pop and whats not....All they can do is follow

    Anyway, we're gone way of topic...
    Nothing wrong with Bizkit...great band..keep it up smile.gif

    "(Shaft error to Klay[b-airlock140.esatclear.ie]: Erection reset by queer)"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Klay:

    Where are you getting that info from? Do you have any idea what they're lyrics are actually about? Cutting themselves on stage? Who the hell does that?!
    </font>

    Because I might actualy know about the band?
    I might have actualy listened to them, and read their lyrics...
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">From the song Scissors
    "I play doctor for five minutes flat
    Before I cut my heart open...and let the air out"
    </font>
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">From the song Purity
    I am not a dog, but I'm the one your dogging
    I am in a buried kennel
    I have never felt so final
    Someone find me please, losing all reserve
    I am ****ing gone, I think I'm ****ing dying
    Cut me - show me - enter - I am
    willing and able and never any danger to myself
    Knowledge in my pain, knowledge in my pain
    </font>

    All it is, is hate.
    Total and utter anger.

    Who cuts themselves on stage?

    Ozzy has done it, Marylin Manson, Casey Chaos (Amen).
    I can get pics for you if you'd like?
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Klay:

    Like I said before..its got nothing to do with the bands. If they go around cutting themselves and showing it off, they'd probably do it anyway even if they don't listen to those bands, cause they'd have to be pretty ****ed up to actually think someone wants them to kill themselves.
    </font>

    You have it the wrong way around.
    It's them that want people to think they want to kill themselves.

    Not them that thinks the songs tell them to kill themseves.

    And you don't see my point do you?
    They aren't doing it because of the bands...
    Get what I'm saying yet?
    It's the bands that are appealing to them.
    It's the trend to feel ****ed off at the world, and these bands are playing on that.

    Read the SlipKnot lyrics I posted...
    It's all about the feeling of being ****ted on.
    A Most Nu-Metal bands play on this.

    [This message has been edited by AngelWhore (edited 25-05-2001).]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    Using Creed as some sort of meter stick to judge all "Rock" music by now, are we? Laff.

    REM are a great band, and like many great bands you can't lump them into one category. So don't.

    Deftones are about as far from nu-metal as the Smashing Pumpkins, and that's pretty far. It's not their music that makes people call them nu-metal, it's people's ill-informed opinions that does that.

    Slipknot may not go around actually promoting suicide, because if they did, wouldn't they have to back it up? It's the idea that "ohh...you better be nice to me or I'll do something to myself" that makes the idiot kids like the image. Oh and because it's the "in" thing. Or was...

    The difference between Linkin Park and the other nu-metal "bands" is that Linkin Park is the first ever manufactured nu-metal band. They are owned by their record company who are obviously targetting the younger age group, whereas bands like Slipknot probably didn't set out to capture the teen-market.

    And, finally, if you re-read my post you'll notice I said "thing that annoys me the most...". I was stating my contempt for some(majority) of their fans who never knew they existed until recently. Not once did I mention any hate for Limp Bizkit, indeed I'll probably go to their concert. As **** as they are it will be good fun. biggrin.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Klay


    Gota www.mp3.com ..pick up a music mag...ask anyone in the know! Deftones = Metal, Creed = Rock....its when you start mixing all these genres that everyone starts getting confused.

    "(Shaft error to Klay[b-airlock140.esatclear.ie]: Erection reset by queer)"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Excelsior


    How about not worrying too much about little boxes, seeing as someone has already deftly pointed out, the best musicians will be too big for them.

    My Adolescent website:
    http://www.iol.net/~mullent


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Sliotar


    at the end of the day, limp bizkit are musicians who write and play songs. i dont think their purpose in life is to see how many kids they can get to cut themselves and all that crap, maybe the record companys do, to try and make more money, but not the band.

    from my point of view its all very simple. i put the limp bizkit cd into my cd player, i play the cd, and i like what i hear. simple. i dont cut myself, or buy overpriced hoodies. instead i go buy more limp bizkit music because i liked it.

    is there any chance that ppl on this board will stop trying to force they're taste in music down other ppl's throats? there are so many ppl here that think they are superior to kids like me just because they like the frames. your born with your musical taste, if i love blink 182, your just gonna have to live with it. i have respect for, but dont like the frames, but it doesnt bother me that you do. music is all about diversity, if everyone loved the frames things would be a lot duller. not all of us kids just follow blindly whatever the trend is, or whatever is popular, so plz stop stereotyping us, as thread has done in abundance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭Dark-Ninja


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NekkidBibleMan:

    There's plenty wrong with Limp Bizkit though....

    1) Fred Durst doesn't sing, he whines.
    2) They swear so they appeal to 10 year olds (my generation anyone?)
    3) They come across as such utter twats in interviews
    4) They have facial hair issues.
    5) They're nu-metal. And everybody knows that 'nu metal = sux0r!!1111111'
    6) They've very few decent riffs in their songs
    7) They try to be hip-hop/rap - oblivous to the fact that Fred Durst can't rap (getcha groove on anyone?)

    </font>


    EXACTLY what i was thinking frown.gif


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Klay


    Well said Sliotar...couldn't have said it better meself biggrin.gif

    "(Shaft error to Klay[b-airlock140.esatclear.ie]: Erection reset by queer)"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    Erm...I don't think anyone meant that Limp Bizkit encouraged people to mutilate themselves, I think that came from the Slipknot offshoot.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sliotar:

    not all of us kids just follow blindly whatever the trend is

    </font>
    Well that's exactly what my post was about, kids who do do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Sliotar,
    This topic was about finding out people's opinions of Limp Bizkit - and that's exactly what people have given. People have expressed and argued their like and dislike of them, but they haven't forced their opinions on anyone.

    I wouldn't tell people not to listen to Limp Bizkit and other nu-metal, but just as people do with their favourite books and films, I would suggest they try some of my favourite bands. If people didn't do that, we'd all be listening to what we see on MTV.

    Most of my friends are into Limp Bizkit ,'teenie bopper' or dance stuff and it doesn't bother me. Everyone has different musical preferences. I doubt anyone's playlists would be the same (mine ranges from Boney M to One Minute Silence for example).

    There is no right answer in debates of this nature. Its all to do with the individual, they're knowledge, appreciation, and taste of music.



    Fear can sometimes be a useful emotion. For instance, let's say you're an astronaught on the moon and you fear that your partner has been turned into Dracula. The next time he goes out for the moon pieces, wham! You just slam the door behind him and blast off. He might call you on the radio and say he's not Dracula, but you just say, "Think again, bat man."
    hello.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Well said Nekkidbibleman!

    Anyway...
    Don't take what I say too seriously.
    I find that opinions, when presented in text form, can seem far more opinionated...

    Yeah, maybe that doesn't make much sense...

    Like I said in another post, what I am saying is really just a generalization. And not a properly solid opinion.

    Meaning, while I do beleive what I am saying at the moment, I also think that I could be easily proven wrong.

    If you can see my meaning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Sliotar


    Yeah I know nobody directly tried to force their taste in music down our throats, well one guy did a few posts back, and i know nobody has directly stereotyped us, but you just get the feeling that ppl are trying to do that. not just in this thread but in the whole board, i dunno i guess im just kina dispointed that theres no-one here into the offspring, blink 182 and that kinda stuff. music is all about diversity but its nice to have a few ppl to share your diversity with smile.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    Mmm, but Limp Bizkit, Offspring, Blink182, Slipknot etc aren't exactly "diverse" now are they?

    K, I'll shup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    I kinda like The Offspring... smile.gif

    But as far as punk rock goes, you just cannot beat AFI. They are just the ****ing kings!

    Give a listen to the Sliotar. They rule!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Sliotar


    yeah i think i'll do that. they were signed up by nitro records, dexter hollands (lead singer of the offspring) very own record label, so they must be good wink.gif i just have'nt gotten round to listenin to 'em yet.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Belisarius


    Well its a fair comment to say we all love the offspring*pity about conspiracy of one though frown.gif* but they arent punk ..best punk around folks is NoFX smile.gif

    Shrewgar!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Klay


    Would Alien Ant Farm classify as Punk rock? They're pretty good them...'cept the main guy is a bit of a freak..

    "(Shaft error to Klay[b-airlock140.esatclear.ie]: Erection reset by queer)"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    The Vandals. smile.gif fooking great stuff

    Or, there's an irish 70's punk band called Stiff Little Fingers (they are 'the next Green day' according to the guy in High Fidelity - shows how much he knows :P), got some great stuff.

    www.slf.com is the website I think, you can download songs from there (check out Suspect Device)

    Fear can sometimes be a useful emotion. For instance, let's say you're an astronaught on the moon and you fear that your partner has been turned into Dracula. The next time he goes out for the moon pieces, wham! You just slam the door behind him and blast off. He might call you on the radio and say he's not Dracula, but you just say, "Think again, bat man."
    hello.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭-ADREN-


    Angle Whore throw some of those AFI songs at me .. i want to get some.. name one of there best!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Days Of The Pheonix

    Sacrifice Theory

    The Lost Souls

    6 to 8


    Great songs...


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